23.5 Degrees: Mission Starchild Part Deux Comments - Mania.com


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Stranger 9/16/2009 12:37:52 PM


1.  You do not represent science.  So drop the condescending attitude.  I will match my degrees, involvement in science, the scientific method, and life accomplishments pound for pound with you any day.

2.  I want to hear this process out, not have it squelched by pretenders.

3.  Your statements are rhetoric and textbook one liners.  They are neither logic, evidentiary or refutation in basis.  They have nothing to do with scientific thought and everything to do with politics.

4.  Lloyd is pulling his hair out, heart and soul as a layman, busy at work doing what science should have been doing in the first place.  He is doing with his heart, what most don't possess the courage and intellect to accomplish.

5.  Without a construct, and evidence, peer review is useless.

6.  There is plenty of necessity of plurality in this case, to fit Ockham's Razor.  This testing should be done. 

Contrary to your spin, scientific minds and people ARE listening and watching this.  MANY of them.  We don't tell people like you.  I am president of a $200 technology firm, with the most intelligent people in the world in its hallways and cubicles.  We do not dismiss this topic as easily as you do.

While we have not married to a conclusion, you clearly have.  I don't buy your conclusion.  Should it show to be true, I am happy and relieved to have it that way.  But until then, you need to untrain the arrogance and step back and be a peer.  Give peer review, not derision.

LloydPye 9/16/2009 7:52:39 PM


No, that promise doesn't sound silly at all. I've heard it in emails or at conferences from two or three thousand people, and I believe every one of them is as sincere as you seem. I know there are literally millions around the world who are now aware of the Starchild at some level or other. In ten years I've managed to expose it to probably more than I can imagine, and many, if not most, are like you.

If, like you, they've made an effort to educate themselves to the FACTS about the case, nothing more or less, then they know what you know after reading the eBook---the Starchild can't possibly be a human deformity, and the evidence is overwhelming that it must be a human-alien hybrid. And THAT is what makes the new DNA test from 454 Life Sciences so incredibly important. That test can PROVE what I'm saying to a level, to a degree, that no scientists anywhere in the world can dispute. They will simply be forced to accept it and go about forging an entirely new reality and worldview for us all to live in.


LloydPye 9/16/2009 8:02:48 PM


Thanks for stepping in and lending a hand. You did it better than I think I ever could. Heck, you scared ME!  I imagine the Squid had to change his shorts after THAT!  Geeze.....     ;-)

Seriously, I appreciate enormously the help and support I get from courageous scientists like yourself. More than a few have stepped up and given me all they had, and many let me attach their names to it. For those who felt they couldn't risk it, no stigma is warranted. Everyone in science knows what happens to those who don't toe the party line.

Without both groups, the brave and the super brave, I would not be where I am right now, standing on the literal verge of making this happen as I said in the response to Radus, in a way nobody in science will be able to squawk about. We can NAIL it.....

Touch base privately any time you want. I'm lloyd@lloydpye.com. You sound like a good man to know in a tight squeeze. Later....


rocketman4274 9/17/2009 3:55:31 AM

Loyd keep up the good work.I have followed your work from the time I first read about Star Child a few years ago.If I had the funds I would finance you in a instance.I think the fact that we are here is proof enough that there has to be something or somone else out there.As vast as space is the odds that there are other beings has to be greater than no beings.Go to NASA.GOV and scroll down to Project Kepler.To find another planet like earth that is habitable in my book should be of the utmost  importance with the way we are destroying this one.                                                                             

I think that alot of people don't want to believe or know if there is other life out there.Look at all the things that would have to be rewrote,The Bible being the first.


RogerXXII 9/17/2009 9:42:25 AM

 What I find interesting (and somewhat dismaying) is - upon the suspicion that the "Starchild" may possess some "non-human" genes - the immediate leap to a "extra terrestrial mating" conclusion.

Why wouldn't far more prosaic possibilties come to mind first?  For instance... a long-ago rape of an indigenous Mexican woman by the ancestor of a Republican?

And speaking of such...  The US Senate recently proposed a Bill banning any human/animal hybrids...  effectively ensuring self-extinction of their own peculiar hybrid sub-species through legislation... So who was it, a while back, who was pooh-poohing the downward spiral of self-destruction?  Isn't this clear evidence of same?

bottleslingguy 9/18/2009 7:55:21 PM

Hi Lloyd.

Just keep doing what you are doing and you will find more and more well educated folks are tuning into this subject. It's amazing how potentially explosive this is. It is a simple matter of getting all the facts out there and then the only people denying it will be the scared little bunny rabbits hiding under their blankets afraid of the boogeyman.

Don't let them mire you in their intellectually retarded arguments, you have to keep your frequency high and positive. You have many supporters who you may never hear from but believe me, people hear this.

bottleslingguy 9/18/2009 8:13:18 PM

Lloyd, you should let a toy maker make a model of the skull so more people can see it and actually feel it and look at it up close. anyone know a toy manufacturer?

bottleslingguy 9/18/2009 8:36:27 PM


How did the Starchild's (let's call him Bobby, he looks like a Bobby) internal cranial features become "deliberately malformed"?If that was the case the internal structures would be human, but they're not.

StellaMaris 9/18/2009 11:35:59 PM

For those who are interested, here is a link to the "spiked" Daily Mail story, which has now been run on another internet news site - ironically in response to the fact that our Mania story got such a huge amount of hits!:-


serpentsminion 9/18/2009 11:56:21 PM

People who argue with Lloyd's work on the Starchild always try to hit him with the same few points that they claim puts him in the realm of pseudo-science. But they don't focus on the actual physical trait arguments about the skull itself in individual fashion- like the uniform density of the bone throughout the entirety of the skull. And the Symmetry! You don't get that natural perfect symmetry through deformative diseases and conditions. But instead of admitting that they always try to smear him by his methods instead. It's the old political tactic- if you can't prove them wrong make them look bad and it works just as well.

Then the mainstream experts will try to say "Well- this feature could be caused by this and this feature could be caused by that and blah blah blah and so the result is that the skull was the result of cradleboarding of a congenitally hydrocephalic brachycephalic child suffering from Crouzon Syndrome and Progeria. All of which are very rare disorders (like less than a hundred out of millions) but all coincidentally occurred simultaneously in this one child to explain all these features. So what if it's beautifully symmetrical...?"  That's their best answer. "Symmetry, so what?" Come on- ever seen pictures of people and children with these conditions?? There's no symmetry. They can look like or worse than the elephant man.

I hope these tests get done so this can be put to rest and if the answer is in favor of non-human ancestry then great- if the tests turn out human- ok. We keep looking down different avenues. We move on. But why the ridicule from Academia and politica? why not just run the test and get it overwith?

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