2-Hour Special BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Planned in 2009

Sounds great to me. Fill in some of the back story. Hopefully we will see more of the War from other points of view and someday more of the first Cylon War.

Hopefully it's not another meaningless Razor. *sigh* I didn't mean that, BSG, I'd do anything to have more of you. Please come back!

Caprikhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!

The final Cylon is Helo's pipi. Don't say I didn't tell you so.

LOL hanso. This has all happened before... in my pants

I thought Razor was pretty entertaining. Crucial to the overall story? No. But IMO neither was half of last season but I enjoyed it nonetheless. Look forward to this. Sounds hella more interesting than... wait for it... Caprikhaaaaaaaaaan! That sounds extra meaningless.

LOL you guys are all funny...
I'd cut off Helo's left testicle to see more BSG

I bought Razor because I wanted more BSG films, but it was pretty bad when you consider the fact it ripped off all of its dramatic power from "Pegasus"/"Resurrection Ship" and repeated it far less effectively. Heck even Lee concludes in a deleted scene to "Resurrection Ship" that the BSG crew was capable of the same things as that of Pegasus. Director Felix Alcala is an awful director in terms of drama. He did "Exodus" Parts 1 and 2 and, except for the action, a lot of the drama was either rushed or came off as cheesy (Dualla and Lee). Just terrible work. Hearing about what Kain did in those amazing Season 2 episodes was much more creepy and effective as was the theme of torture and rape of political prisoners/terrorists than what Alcala and maybe Michael Taylor (an otherwise amazing writer) showed here. I did like that no character acknowledges the cruelty inflicted on Gina, though.

In addition, all the new stuff violated Ron Moore's basic tenets for what he wanted to avoid in this series. The new character was like a "Lost" character in being defined as a suffering hero motivated by guilt; psychologists will tell you guilt doesn't stop people; my sense is it gives people the ability to punish themselves and still do the wrong thing; the fallacy of this plot device is how can a person do such terrible things and feel bad about them afterward? Usually the person fails to realize the cruelty their committing and THAT's how most evil happens in our world -- not because people like Kate or Sawyer do something awful and then punish themselves afterward. More often than not, if they're good enough to recognize and feel bad about their bad acts, they wouldn't have committed them in the first place. For example, Roslin never feels badly about executing a cylon, just as Lee never questions the morality of committing genocide in "A Measure of Salvation". So, that's the first issue. This new character arc was pretty stereotypical and just repeated what Kat wen through in "The Passage".

Next, the story was too nostalgic (Ron Moore rightly criticized Voyager for always wanting to be Next Gen). Well, this story wanted to be the miniseries or give too many cheesy nods to that amazing story. They had planned a scene in which the new character watches TV and sees the Caprica Buckaneers playing a game; Anders is playing and the announcer mentions government official Gaius Baltar who is with Number 6; it would have been all a little too convenient, and thank the Gods they didn't do it.

Furthermore, the characters don't behave convincingly. If you look at the deleted scenes, you see they'd written and shot Lee talking in the exact same mess hall to the exact same waiter the main character was talking to. And -- wouldn't you know it? -- they both bare their life stories in formulaic TV manner, exposing the essence of their career dilemmas! In fact, Lee uses the exact phrase he challenges Adama with, "a man isn't a man until he wears the wings of a fighter pilot" or whatever. Okay that wasn't officially part of the film, but how about all the moments in which Starbuck relates to the new character in talking about her mother? Those were pretty bad.

Also, the action suspense toward the end was so lame. Lee faces the cliche moral dilemma of whether to sacrifice the team for the mission. It's boring.

The cylons looked overly shiny and didn't show the care of detail they always have in the series.

The story was trying too hard to be a stand alone for non-viewers. It didn't work for the first X-Files film and it doesn't work on BSG. They have to forget that and just write as if we know the back story, so they don't force in all these details about who these characters are in too forced a way in too short a time.

I also need a miniseries focussing on Baltar and his leadership in New Caprica before the cylons arrive. The dramatic episodes without cylons, except maybe Head Six, are some of the best of the series.

Also, much of the end of Season 3 was important toward explaining the political situation among the humans (workers' rights, concerns about a trial of Baltar) as well as the dramatic happenings with our main characters (why Lee choses law, how Adm. Adama switches from being willing to execute Baltar secretly to voting that he is not guilty). This was great stuff, and I'd argue the stand alones in the 2nd half of Season 3 were far better than the major episodes since "Occupation"/"Precipice" until the appearance of Romo Lampkin.

I MISS THE END OF THE SHOW , CAN ANY ONE TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED ON THE LAST AIRING OF BATTLESTAR GALATICA ???????????????

Well I guess the jokes on you Muldfeld cuz you paid for that shite ;p

I couldn’t tell ya ‘bout no deleted scenes cuz I only saw it once for free on the TV. It was at a time I still thought BSG was the shiznit (and I kinda still do) and I was waitin’ impatiently while this ugly restructuring of television seasons kept me waitin’ impatiently for the next season of the show. It did entertain me. And it was superfluous fluff as you say. Didn’t want to buy the DVD beforehand and Shirley didn’t after. I always listen to Shirley. Next time I catch a repeat I’ll keep a more critical eye on it with your thoughts and the deleted scenes in mind. I can’t wait for those action figures. I bet Apollo talking to the waiter will rock.

I love the story points you brought up. The political situation. Workers rights. Baltar’s trial. Lee, Law & Lampkin. The Admiral choosing between the lessor of two Dark Sides. Roslyn not aware she was. Those were the things I was actually referring to, that were meaningless to the overall story but enjoyed immensely nonetheless. Cuz the overall story got hijacked by super secret Final Five Cylon PiPis that I can’t seem to make relevant to my pipi for the life of me.

But hey. It’s all subjective opinion. A sleeper agent for the Reptilian Overlord controlled Illuminati might see things differently. Even though he wouldn’t know it

domino, they actually got to Earth in the last episode. And it was made of people. This is an exclamation point: !

You've got a funny way of writing, Joey Balony. When you say "pipi" are you referring to your privates? I agree with you the final 4 or 5 kind of upset a more interesting focus on the Baltar trial. I think the trial was too rushed, and I really think if David Eick remained involved in BSG throughout Season 3, instead of rushing off to do "Bionic Woman", the show would have a better pace, and we might have gotten extended episodes for the DVD set. I think it's such a shame. I'm so thankful at the recent news that the 2nd half of Season 4 will have extended episodes!

The fact that you and I enjoy the political and dramatic stuff is why we loved the trial, and why the cylon revelations didn't hit us the same way it did so many sci fi fans of the show. The whole reason I watch the show is the political and dramatic stuff, and I think Season 1 balanced a lot of that stuff really well; even a more comedic episode like "Six Degrees of Separation" was so amazing. The sci fi action and especially the religion of the characters (as opposed to religious themes we can relate to) bore me. I think the dramatic and political developments in the second half of Season 3 were more interesting, if uneven, and more important than stuff like "Eye of Jupiter" and "Rapture". The biggest factor is Ron Moore's refusal to write more episodes from scratch. When he writes, things move to a whole other level. Season 1 was so consistently great because he admits he paid much more attention to every detail and rewrote more heavily.

Anyway, even if I wasn't enthralled by Razor and thought it was one of the series' worst stories, I was curious about the extra footage, and, mostly, I wanted to financially encourage Universal to provide the funds for more. Hope this next TV movie is miles better. To date, I like half of Jane Espenson's work on the show, so I hope her writing is great. However, I'm extra excited Edward James Olmos is directing, since his stuff has been great.

Domino 2008, if I were you I'd wait until early 2009, when they reair it. It's no fun getting spoilers; it's why we watch a show -- to be surprised. There's no reason to ruin your experience.



If you really want the last 5 minutes, here it is, though, but I wouldn't watch it if you haven't seen the entire episode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgSZyGBnbj4