4 Reasons Why RED DAWN Won't Rule Comments - Mania.com


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death4sale 9/9/2009 11:24:15 AM

People aren't ready for multilayered characters?

Explain the success of The Dark Knight other than Heath Ledger's death. It did gross over a billion dollars and has some of the most multilayered characters of any film in the past few years. Obviously, people don't mind multilayered characters when they are used correctly.

Today movie goers scream blood and a comeuppance for all the film’s “baddies” even if they are painted more grey than black.

Even though a lot of people don't like Watchmen, I have never heard one person complain about the fact that Ozymandias killed millions of people and gets away with it. I've only heard them cheer for the extermination of the villains when they actually deserve it like in Taken.

Just my two cents.

LittleNell1824 9/9/2009 11:36:35 AM

You know, I didn't find the first one believable. But, I assume kids will like this one as much as kids liked the last one. It's all about the target audience.

I agree about the pacing. Non-stop "action" is actually really dull. I've found myself watching old movies just to enjoy the suspense. Violence has so much more impact when your forced to follow the heroic characters on non-violent errands. It sets up a feeling of normalcy that makes any violence seem more extreme. Think of the pacing in Rear Window, the Exorcist, or Boys from Brazil. These aren't dull movies, but the action is dealt out as needed.

With the current worries about terrorism, it seems like we're back in that "enemies from within" state of mind. The state of mind that made Invasion of the Body Snatchers so successful. The state of mind Rod Sirling was always preaching against in the original Twilight Zone series. Foreign invasion is scary, but adding a sizeable crowd of collaborators would make it even more frightening. I think a welcoming committee of unemployed Americans who've been promised jobs by the new regime would be absolutely terrifying.

thorin02 9/9/2009 11:39:12 AM

EagleManiac  - **Now, if it was called "Towel Dawn" where a bunch of Islamic terrorists attack the U.S. in a brutal attack that hits the entire country, ***

Actually Chuck Norris already made that movie back in the 80s.  It was called 'Invasion America' or something like that.  A bunch of terrorists start attacking targets across the country (schools, churches, malls etc etc) and only Chuck Norris could stop them. 


thorin02 9/9/2009 11:42:41 AM

Found it IMDB - Invasion USA

Hobbs 9/9/2009 11:49:23 AM

LittleNell, I agree with you.  But that's already happening and he's called Obama.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Chopsaki 9/9/2009 11:53:45 AM

4 Reasons Why This List Sucks Royal Monkey Ass


1.) gauleyboy420 beat me to the punch but hes right. Patrick Swayze was in the entire movie "The Outsiders" conversely Chris Hemsworth was in Star Trek for about 5 min of actual on screen face time. (sorry gauley 10min is too generous heh) You might have a point when "Thor" is actually released in movie theaters but until then sorry no dice.


2.) So they can't do there battle cry "Wolverines!" because you think it's cheesy? We seemed to grow pretty accustomed to Joh Mclain saying "Yippee Kai Yay Muther!@#$er!". Or Arnold saying "I'll be back". Not only did we grow accustomed to it but we came to expect it. Sorry but your second point is cheesiness.

A Grey Villain

3.) They are not interested in layered characters that have multiple facets to them? You mean like Gaius Baltar on BSG who was less evil and more of a coward. Or Al Swearengen who is depicted as a man who lives according to his own private moral code and who is even capable of genuine acts of kindness. Or how about Ben Linus who show's his grief at the loss of his daughter. Everyone knows layered bad guys makes them more interesting. Which is clearly showed by the masses which you show so very little faith in. Its funny that you blame Sylar for all of Heroes woes. I do remember season 2 was shorter due to the writers strike with over emphisis on new characters to the detriment of established ones but im sure this had nothing to do with it's poor ratings...

Remakes Suck so Let’s Sell the Original Instead

4.) Yes the movie buisness is a buisness with the goal to make money. It's up to the people to decide whether or not there going to spend there money on a product. Don't put the blame strictly on holywood. People need to take personal responsibility for there actions. Everyone has free will, whether they excersise it or not is up to them.

In conclusion I must say it's another hatchet job list written with the sole purpose of illiciting a response from us. In the words of George Bush, mission accomplished...

Chopsaki 9/9/2009 12:01:08 PM

Just some interesting statistics as far as troop strength...

United States: Active-1,473,900 Reserve-1,458,500 Paramillitary-453,000 Total = 3,385,400

China: Active-2,255,000 Reserve-800,000 Paramillitary-3,969,000 Tota l= 7,024,000

Russia: Active-1,037,000 Reserve-2,400,000 Paramillitary-359,100 Total = 3,796,100

jppintar326 9/9/2009 1:17:07 PM

Red Dawn is a dated premise.  It worked in 1984, when Reagan portrayed the Soviet Union as "The Evil Empire."    Ironically in 2010, America could be considered "The Evil Empire" by many foreigners.  Also, since Red Dawn, there have been quite a few imitators in which the premise that America has collapsed, though not necessarily by the Russians.  There was the miniseries from the 80s "Amerika", Kevin Costner's so bad it's laughable "The Postman", the Terminator movies, etc. There is no need for this remake.

Chopsaki 9/9/2009 1:49:17 PM

It blows my mind how we can suspend disbelief for aliens, robots & superheroes but the idea of one country attacking another country (which has happened all throughout history) seems perposterous. Seriously?

gauleyboy420 9/9/2009 3:52:55 PM

well said Chopsaki...


And Little nell, sometime I just wanna see an action movie. I agree with your points, BUT Sometimes I want non-stop mindless action...

Variety is the spice of life.

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