5 Comics That Should Be Rated R Movies Comments - Mania.com


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karas1 10/5/2009 1:06:56 PM

When Watchmen came out, we argued about it here on Mania till we were blue in the  face.  I thought it was TOO violent and the ultra violence detracted from my enjoyment of the film.  I wanted to enjoy the murder mystery and the artistry of the way the story was told, but instead I was sitting there in shock because the bones were sticking out of that guy's arm.

Of course, it was probably always destined to be R for nudity, but all that violence was over the top.

The problem with Wolverine was not that it did not show lots of blood and gore.  The problem was that the script sucked.  They were more interested in showcasing as many mutants as they could shoehorn into the film than in telling a cohesive story.  If they had concentrated on telling a good story that made sense, it could have been a fulfilling film with only the level of violence that was shown.

Now, if you want to see a comic book film including adult themes like Daredevil's adict girlfriend selling him out for drugs, that's a different matter.  But there might be a limited audience for such a film.  Most people who want to see a superhero film want something a little less gritty and dreary.  And most people who want to see a movie about how drug addiction corrupts the soul so that addicts sell out their lovers don't want to see a guy running around in red spandex.

Kara S - VolcanoShark

TKay42one 10/5/2009 1:14:53 PM

Interesting points there, karas1.  I wonder why gritty and dreary cop movies do well, but not gritty and dreary superhero movies?  Major double standard there.  Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want to see a gritty and dreary Superman or Spiderman movie, but it works well for Daredevil, Punisher, Spawn...any normal human vigilante or anti-hero. 

Any totally right about the Wolverine movie.  You know, it weird...for a guy with metal claws and a berzerker rage, I somehow don't think of Wolverine being a blood-soaked badass at the end of his day...lol.  What's with that?  But yeah, the problem with that movie was a crappy script, NOT the lack of gore as you said.

I didn't really notice anything too over the top in Watchmen though.  Guess we'll agree to disagree on that one.

karas1 10/5/2009 1:44:30 PM

Wolverine  may have metal claws and a berserker rage, but really, I think of him as a normal guy.  He's kicking back in the X-Mansion with Colussus and Nightcrawler eating chips and drinking beer in front of a football game on TV.  He's kind to and protective of the junior mutants and when it comes to his love triangle with Scott and Jean he's just as confused as the rest of us would be and a lot more considerate of their feelings than a lot of normal guys would be.

Oh yeah, he's got a super healing factor and an adamantium skeleton and all, but if you saw evil, mutant hating scumbags threatening the people you loved you might get a little berserk too.

And between you and me, I'm really more interested in watching Logan try to navigate through his life and deal with the complications in it created by being a mutant with weird powers than in watching him disembowel bad guys.

As for the difference between gritty dreary cop dramas and gritty dreary fantasy films (and don't tell me a blind guy who navigates by sonar (or whatever) and dresses up in red spandex to patrol the rooftops at night isn't a fantasy character), it's kind of obvious to me.  I don't really like dreary girtty cop dramas about drug addition, but if I did, I really think a superhero would spoil the mood.  (Kind of like the sudden appearance of a day glow unicorn in Blade Runner.  But I digress.)

And when I watch a superhero film, I'm looking for something a little more upbeat.  Unless it's Batman.  But Batman is in a class by himself anyway.

Kara S

TKay42one 10/5/2009 2:07:02 PM

Yeah, Batman movies are a big more somber...like Batman carrying shark repellant on his utility belt...or a bunch of actual penguins somehow dragging The (expired) Penguin down into the sewers for a penguin funeral...LOL.

TKay42one 10/5/2009 2:07:59 PM

Or gangs in neon glow in the dark clothes.

Tashiro 10/5/2009 2:23:53 PM

 Really, I'd rather the director / producers don't go for any specific rating.  Tell the story that holds true to the character, and let it be rated whatever.  If one happens to be PG-13, and another happens to be R in the same franchise, so be it.  I don't know what the fixation on 'this movie must be R!' and 'this movie must be PG-13!' is.  It really shouldn't matter.

Hobbs 10/5/2009 2:28:44 PM

I will say kara, I admire the fact when you don't like something you stick to it.  There isn't a person that liked the Watchmen mini-series comic book that didn't like the movie.  It wasn't what you were looking for, that's fine, but it stayed true to the source.  It was supposed to be a dark, violent story not the Maltese Falcon.

As for Wolverine I'm guessing you came on late into the character. He was a violent kick ass character that no one understood and we loved him for it.  The wolverine in the comics would have kicked those guys butts on that bridge when they were blocking the road, not said "okay honey, you take care of it."  He was a mans man.  A grunt with a chip on his shoulder. Not a man of the 90's in touch with him emotional side.

Cheesey1 10/5/2009 2:36:32 PM

Sorry Chad, do your research.  There has been an R Rated release of DD, the Director's Cut.

Chadghostal 10/5/2009 2:37:45 PM

Did you really suggest brining Frank Miller on as a consultant on Daredevil? Have we not learned that even with characters he formerly proved great on, he has now completely lost all his ability to create a non-bat-shit-crazy idea for? The man is poison. Pure poison. And don't give me the "he Co-directed Sin City!" argument. That was an honorary title that even the DGA didn't recognize(if you saw the Spirit, he damn well proved he is no director).

Also as much as I love Rob Zombie, a beard and long hair does not Lobo make. As director? I could definitely see that. As the main man himself? The man is barely 5'9. No dice.


Oh, and Jonah Hex should have been R rated rather than the innevitable PG-13.

BarricadeS281E 10/5/2009 2:43:39 PM

Someone mentioned an X-Force movie - I'd love an X-Force movie!!! (Current X-Force team that is)

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