5 DC Heroes That Should Live Outside Continuity Comments - Mania.com


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cromulentcat 4/8/2010 10:08:08 AM

Karas1 hit the nail on the head.

Ozymandas 4/8/2010 11:03:45 AM

No need for any of these characters to be outside of the DCU to tell the tales being suggested. They've all got plenty of stories without other DCU references. The recent Metal Men back-up could have taken place outside of DCU continuity for all we know. It still sucked.

If you want to make an arguement for anybody being outside of DCU continuity, I'd suggest the JSA & All-Star Squadron, simply because they work so well during the WWII era & in their prime.

jfdavis 4/8/2010 11:46:32 AM

Here's another knock against Aquaman: in the Wonder Woman TV show, she can talk to animals and even talks to dolphins in one episode! if Wonder Woman can do that, why do we need Aquaman at all?

Anyway, back in the '80's and '90's when I was reading comics, it was a big deal (In the Marvel Comics anyway which I read more than DC though the DC issues I did read really didn't have guest stars either.) when guests from other books appeared. Continuity between books existed but wasn't a big deal except  for the Avenger and X-men related books.  Spider-man would make some "thought comment" about Aunt May in the hospital while guesting in a Fantastic Four issue but then the editor would tell you what issue you needed to read to get the scoop on that.  

Comics, and Star Trek books for that matter,  nowadays have gone too far with that. It use to be you could read one or two titles and understand what was going on now you have to read 6 or 7 others as well. It kind of sucks...

cdale78 4/8/2010 11:48:49 AM

Plastic Man. 

SONYMANswallows 4/8/2010 12:22:53 PM

I think you are missing the obvious which is there is no continuity permanently in comics. There are storylines that crossover. But to say a character should be out of continuity is rendundant. There have been plenty of stories with Batman and Aqua man that are not continuing with established  or recent lore. Did I use lore right?

All Star comics are out of normal continuity and in a few years they will probably reference them in regular or other story lines.

And Blue Beetle Ted Kord should be number 1 if anyone is.


In 1994 Eddie Brock as Venom became more of a hero when he went underround and got barely any recognition in main stream storylines. Now we have Scorpion Venom which ever so blows.

Jasinner 4/8/2010 12:43:30 PM

 I think Aquaman suffers from the same shoehorning that hampers most of the DCU occult characters. He would work easily in his own little world under the sea with the occasional guest spot. There is no need to force him into every JLA story, only the events that would impact him. He's made mention many times before that the existance of life on the surface is irrelevant. His best relationships in the DCU are Wonder Woman who he shared a disposed royalty bond with and Superman who has that protecting a world your not really part of bond. Aquaman's world has a rich supporting cast and the option for high political intrigue mixed with some sword and sorcery would make me actually buy that book.

Now to the DCU occult. When Marvel really dove headfirst into making their galactic adventures relevant with Annihilation continuity was an afterthought, those characters exist in the same universe but just removed from the events on Earth. DC keeps teasing with Shadowpact and Deadman but the payoff is never there. Set the DC Occult world in a similar place, NOT VERTIGO, John Conatantine and Madame Xanadu should still be part of the regular universe. Let the DC occult world exist just alongside the U proper, they can keep using the Stranger whenever Bats or Supes runs into something they don't understand but He needs a regular gig keeping the powers of Order and Chaos in check. And lastly turn Etrigan back into the "demon cop" he used to be punishing the other demons who broke the rules not the Spawn knock off anti hero he became in the 90s.

Jasinner 4/8/2010 12:49:23 PM

 I also gotta agree with OZY, if the All-Star Squadron and Justice Society existed in a world of perpetual WWII when they were in their prime that would be perfect. I can never get tired of superheroes beating up Nazis and spoiling their plans for world domination.

NDorado 4/8/2010 2:10:40 PM

I kind of like having it all in one universe.  Keep the continuity.  Let's face it, like you mention, Batman and Superman don't really fit in the same toned-continuity if you think about it, but it still manages to work for stories like Justice League and their other cross-over stories.

And Captain Marvel vs. Superman was the best part of Kingdom Come -- keep them in the same continuity!

-- Nick

from City of Kik


animefanjared 4/8/2010 2:32:09 PM

I agree with Kara and everyone who supports her.  What good does removing these characters from continuity serve? 

I think the real problem is that since we are constantly in the middle of some kind of "event" in both the DCU and Marvel's 616, all of the characters have to appear in all of the stories or seem hopelessly out of the loop.  Why not go back to the way things were in the old days, where the stories going on for each character were largely self contained?  We weren't being invaded by aliens every week, so we didn't need to see the characters teaming up all the time.  It makes things simpler on the reader, easier on the writers (less characters to juggle), and hast the added bonus of making it a big deal when the characters DO team up.

wsblackadder 4/8/2010 6:08:28 PM

Taking these characters out of continuity  (the DCU) gives them more freedom to do whatever they want with their environment.  Just because DC owns a character, doesn't mean they all have to 'live in the same world'.  Like he said,   Aquaman isn't impressive in 'our/theDC world'  where not much goes bad under the sea.  But  if Aquaman had his own world, where things did occur at sea,  obviously more could be done with the character.  (it's not like he's really an integral part of the DC universe)

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