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Wagging Tongues: Ten Questions with Gene Simmons

By: Kurt Amacker
Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2007

You think you know Gene Simmons. You know Kiss and the Demon with the extraordinary tongue, the actor, and the writer. Now, in his effort to enter every medium imaginable, Simmons has branched into comic book publishing with his IDW imprint, Simmons Comics Group. Comic readers have seen Kiss comics in the shops since the band’s first rise to prominence. Marvel published the band’s first incarnation as superheroes. Image, Dark Horse, and, most recently, Platinum Studios have published the band’s exploits since the 1996 reunion. But, Simmons Comics Group stands as a departure from Kiss and a personal project. In fact, Simmons efforts to distance the imprint from his band and its licensed comics suggest a desire to attract not just Kiss fans, but all comic readers. Speaking as one who’s never cared for Kiss but admires Simmons’s ambition, the first issue of Zipper pleasantly surprised me. Plotted by Simmons but written by IDW editor Tom Waltz and drawn by Casey Maloney (respective writer and artist of Children of the Grave), Zipper tells the story of Xeng Ral – an alien rebel that escapes from Etheria, collectivist planet, and reaches Earth, with his former masters in pursuit. He lands on our planet clad from head to toe in a PVC suit similar to what you’d see at a fetish club. Before he even arrives, a televangelist named Dr. Deveroux prophesizes his arrival to rapt audiences – all of whom willingly fill the Doctor’s coffers for his good word. And, to Xeng Ral’s dismay, the first humans he encounters do not come in peace. Zipper is the next series launched by Simmons Comic Group, after Gene Simmons House of Horrors and Dominatrix. The first issue will hit shops in November. Mr. Simmons kindly answered a few of my questions about both Simmons Comics Group and Zipper.   
 
Kurt Amacker: Zipper begins with a dystopian premise – an individual trying to break out of a collectivist society.  A “dystopian escape” is not an uncommon premise in science fiction, but it’s a very deliberate and forceful story angle.  What drew you to that idea, as opposed to just having Xeng Ral escape his planet for some other offense?
 
Gene Simmons: My mindset in creating Zipper and, as later named by Tom, Xeng Ral, was to take a page out of Anthem by Ayn Rand and Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein – a fish out of water fable.  In Heinlein, the Martian boy comes to Earth and, though a human being himself, doesn't really understand the human condition. Rand's main character "dares" think OF himself and FOR himself – an individual. I'm sure there's a bit of Silver Surfer's personality in there as well.

KA: In the first issue, we see Xeng Ral behaving heroically.  He escapes from an oppressive collective.  He kills a few drug dealers.  But, it’s not so much out of altruism or vigilante justice as self-preservation.  Do you see Xeng Ral as a hero in the traditional comic book sense – an altruistic do-gooder – or is he a sort of Ayn-Rand-Objectivist hero?
 
GS: Zipper is more Rand than not.  If you really think about it, even here on Earth, the definition of good and bad depends on the cultural reference point. Indeed, even in our own Westernized culture, there are vast differences between "religious" folk, vegetarians, "Spirituals" and so on.  I DO have a Universal sense of Good and Evil. But, that's purely an individual point of view. Zipper is doing the best he can to sort out what it all means, and who HE really is.

KA: The preacher, Dr. Deveroux, seems to know something about Xeng Ral’s planet of origin.  But, the religion he preaches and profits by seems more akin to Epicureanism than Christian fundamentalism, though he reminds the reader of Jim Bakker, and the like.  Was that intentional, or is that reading too far into it?  Feel free to elaborate.
 
GS: Deveroux, like most self-styled zealots (religious or otherwise), was modeled more on…L. Ron Hubbard.  Not that Hubbard was good or bad, if anything he had a very long sci-fi resume. In fact, Hubbard and Damon Knight, it's said, often met to discuss various Utopian Society ideas.  Both went off to write their own versions. Hubbard wrote Scientology or Dianetics.  Deveroux is my own creation that combined Hubbard and a "culture of fear" – be afraid of the Etherians, he says. Unfortunately, in this case, he's probably right but for the wrong reasons.

KA: As I understand it, you did the plotting on Zipper, while Tom Waltz wrote it based on your ideas.  Did you have any interest in personally writing the comic, or did you just prefer to see your ideas produced?
 
GS: While it's true I came up with "the bible" – the Nether Ether, the Etherians, Zipper, Dr. Deveroux, and the basic origin story – I didn't come up with Zipper's alter ego name. I did not come up with the Earth dynamic, and who Zipper hangs with.  I'm a big picture guy. Wordsmiths like Tom can write rings around me, and he does.

KA: You read comics a lot as a child as a sort of escape.  Have you always been interested in creating them or pursuing them as a career?
 
GS: I always loved comic books and even as a young teenager of 14, I created The Astronuts (a sort of Three Stooges in space, meeting aliens and the like) and Omar, the Cliff Dweller (a sort of Turok, Son of Stone meets Joe Kubert's Tor).

KA: For that matter, you’ve worked (or otherwise appeared) in almost every popular media imaginable – books, movies, television, video games, and, already, Kiss comic books.  What drives you keep moving and keep expanding like that?  Are there any other mediums you’d like to break into? 
 
GS: Not to be too dramatic about all this, but you ain't seen nothing yet.

KA: Xeng Ral’s costume is obviously inspired by the fetish and BDSM scenes.  Do you think the title will explore some of the ideas inherent in that lifestyle – of trust, extreme power dynamics, and pushing the limits of sensual experience?  Or, is it just a cool vinyl costume with a bunch of metal attached to it?
 
GS: First, I came up with the title and name. I loved the sound of it. I loved what it inferred in language.  I also did research and found no one had trademarked it. It's mine. Then, I applied the Zipper idea to how Ral "zips" through the Nether Ether (as in "woosh"), and – presto! – Zipper.  And, I tortured our artists and editors in making sure Zipper had very few muscles to speak of. It didn't make sense for someone who more closely had the consistency of Jell-o to have muscles.  I wanted a leaner, long body like the Elongated Man and Mr. Fantastic.

KA: What separates Zipper and the rest of the titles from Simmons Comic Group from the tons of Kiss comics that have come before?
 
GS: That's a tough one. This one's up the fans. But tone has a lot to do with it.  We are dealing with big, cosmic landscapes and talking about small, human issues. It’s not a very sexy book. This ain't Dominatrix (one of our other books).
KA: Obviously, you want everyone to enjoy Zipper and be entertained by it, but do you feel like there are any larger themes the reader should understand?  Are you trying to say anything broader, or do you want it to just be escapist action?
GS: This is escapist, as are most comic books. But, I do want to delve into some deeper notions about what an individual is and what good and bad are. We will find out together.

KA: Do you have any parting words for the readers of Mania.com?
 
GS: Check out www.genesimmons.com and thanks for reading.
 
The Spinner Rack
By Ben Johnson and Kurt Amacker
 
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Kurt: It would be, wouldn’t it? All of those Sentinels, wasted.  
 
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metalwater • Oct 10, 2007, 08:02am •
Nice art!!!

lister • Oct 10, 2007, 04:40pm •
I love when Kurt asks Gene: "What drives you keep moving and keep expanding like that?"

Um, hello? It's Gene Simmons. The answer is money. That's all he's ever seemed to care about. I'm surprised he didn't give that as his answer because he's quite proud that way.

WISEGUY562 • Oct 11, 2007, 05:56pm •
I'm old enough that I was a fan of KISS growing up. But as it stands today I feel sick everytime I see Gene involved in anything. Beacuase I don't think I've ever seen a bigger money grubber than him. Lister, you're right. I'm surprised he didn't admit to it. I mean the guy was even selling KISS coffins at one time. I'm not a racist by any means but talk about someone fitting the stereotype.

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