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Wiseguy 1/28/2010 7:26:30 AM

6dra6on6, thanks, at least you got what I meant

Ok maybe I should've left it at 6dra6on6's comment so excuse me for coming back a bit strong.

Hobbs 1/28/2010 7:32:24 AM

Ouch....just my two cents, I don't think Wise meant anything by it other than a comparison.  He didn't say it to offend anyone.  Art imitates life for good or bad.  Start worrying more when life imitates art.

Though I don't doubt 9/11 influenced future seaons of 24 it had nothing to do with the beginning. The show had already been filmed and set to air before 9/11 happened.  In fact the bad guy in the show plants a bomb on a passenger jet in first episode and jumps out before it blows up...the part showing the plane blowing up was cut out. 

Hobbs 1/28/2010 7:38:16 AM

And a shout out to Kara....Day After was a good catch.  Joe, how could you miss that one?

TheScriber 1/28/2010 7:38:42 AM

 Town Creek is a pretty good flick if you don't have to pay for it. Some good ideas translated on to screen yet something was lost from script to screen. I almost cried when the mother tree fell. I didn't cry when TT went down. I was too pissed at BUSH for not getting up at the kindergarten class when he obviously knew we were under attack. My heart and thoughts go out to anybody who has ever lost anyone they love. Keep your head up and live your life as a tribute to the people who have fallen.

SarcasticCaveman 1/28/2010 7:40:28 AM

Again, just trying on somebody else's shoes here, I imagine it might be a little more insulting to somebody who has suffered personal loss when the imitation of life becomes so fantastical and withdrawn from actual reality.  I could see how a victim might think that it takes away from or dilutes their loss.  I'm not saying it's rational or fair to the rest of us who don't mean anything by what we say, but oh well.

Hobbs 1/28/2010 7:42:58 AM

What about Battlestar Galatica?  I thought they used a lot from 9/11 in that show.  All the photos off missing loved ones hanging on the hallway comes to mind.

JoeArtistWriter 1/28/2010 7:44:07 AM

karas1, I mentioned that "All the President's Men" is "a little on the nose." I think that covers me as far as the inspiration of the movie goes. I'm well aware it's about Watergate, or more precisely, about Wooodward and Bernstein's uncovering of the truth. I think the inclusion is still very valid.

China Syndrome is about the devastation of nuclear power. Again, it's valid. I agree that The Day After is a perfect choice too, but it doesn't invalidate my choice... I went with China Syndrome because it wasn't about war, but still about nuclear power, and the handful of people who are in control of it.

filch, different strokes for different folks.

marcd, Many of these films could fall in to multiple catagories, but to say for example "Apocalpse Now" is about Vietnam while obviously true, is not seeing the subtext in post-Watergate America. Prior to Watergate (and Vietnam for that matter) American soldiers (often) were seen as almost superheroes, Watergate made us second guess those in charge. Kurtz was a man in charge, and he was being taken down after it was discovered he had become corrupted.

Again, I can defend each choice you try to tear down. The point is Machurian Candidate is about the Cold War, but I'd wager if McCarthyism never came to be, that movie would not have keyed in to the paranoia of not knowing who is a good guy and who's a "bad" guy.

Chad, I agree with much of what you say, and I too have long suspected KaraS as being a Kryptonian rap artist. I am glad I am not alone in my suspicions.

Jeffaulburn, agreed.

jedibanner, haven't read the wiki yet.... it's now on my to-do list

Hanso, yes, sucking balls is exactly what the Happening did. And not the good kind of balll sucking. Dark Knight is a fair inclusion as is Tara Perry for Mary Jane.

JoeArtistWriter 1/28/2010 7:53:04 AM

icemonster, I'm sure Wiseguy didn't mean any harm. I read and reread his comments. I feel for your loss, as does everyone on here I'm sure. I also knew people in the buildings that day, but the comparison is a fair one, no disrespect intended.

Sarcastic Caveman, I don't believe I've seen you in the comment boxes before, but thank you for attempting to moderate a difficult thread. It's a pleasure to meet you.

6dra6on, I'm with you as far as the moviie goes, but everyone grieves in their own way. I'm sure you understand.

Wiseguy, same thing as above. I know you meant no harm, but there are more important things than being right some times.

JoeArtistWriter 1/28/2010 7:59:17 AM

Hobbs, The Day After was in my notes, but I somehow left it out. No worries.... if I included every movie that belonged, and everyone agreed, then we wouldn't have this give and take. As far as 24 goes, whatever it started out as, it's certainly been influenced. It's a fair inclusion.

TheScriber, Haven't seen the movie you're talking about, but I too rememeber Bush's distinct absense when the country neede to hear from its leader. To find out he was informed and stayed to read a children's book was infuriating. To be fair, Bush really wanted to know how the book ended, and nap time was just around the corner.

SarcasticCaveman 1/28/2010 8:01:43 AM

Hey Joe, I heard that "Git R Done" was not Larry the Cable Guy's original catchphrase of choice, but some other lucky inbred redneck had already coined the phrase "Mission accomplished."

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