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jedibanner 3/29/2010 6:16:48 AM

I will take a shot here Ferretjohn but, your white aren't you?

Most people I would assume who look at this article are white and that would explain a lot I think when you think of the comments made. I AM NOT SAYING YOU ARE RACISTS here....it's not the goal of the question. But, being that the majority of ''white people'' not living it every day, feeling the eyes and verbal judgment on the streets, at workd, etc... sometimes dying inside because of racism being in your everyday life, it's something to be considered when sharing thouhgts on this article because I think most white people don't fully have a full grasp of what racism is.

Obviously this subject is a touchy one but the article in the end does elaborate on something that is very real and present in hollywood but, I want to share some points:

1- Between keeping the integrity and attachment to a character Vs. choosing an actor who is bankable, money will always win...and that is a sad though. It's there...part of the movie culture....doesn't matter what race, background or ideas you have, if you ain't ''bankable (meaning PROBABLY white...notice I said probably), then you will loose. Is it right? In movie world...no...in life world...yes (in my view of course).

2- Old Vs New...the old days obviously were 10 times worst as far as racial propaganda compared to today. The Hollywood mentallity has evolved over the years but, it's still present today. The Star Wars comparison seems far fetch but, does bring up the point that, how come all the ''bad guys'' all have chinese accent or italian accent? Small characters who are depicted with ''recognizable'' accents in todays world? I'm sure Goerge L. didn't think too far into this and it's a coincidence but...is it a coincidende because it's a habit already and no one notices or, is it really just a coincident? To bring the subject is important and we should be carefull into dismising the claim too fast.

3- Typecasting...the black guy's the comedy relief, the chinese guy the tech person, the white guy the leader...shall I go on? All things that, being a human being who is not white, if i was an actor I would find it hard to become a lead actor in a movie. It takes specific circomstance to go outside of these typecasting and even then. For every Will Smith or Morgan Freeman, there is 1000 black actors who are always the joker in a movie with only limited time screen. Or asian or lebanese or any other race...white culture is dominant in Hollywood and that's something to think about. Does it mean everyone's a racist? no....is it racism? in my view probably but it's hard to justify because the lines are so thin, the logic of movies made to make money are true and if I was a producer, I would certainly do the same.

4- Born actors....this debate has already been done with the castinf of Captain America and people know where I stand...excluding good actors just so he HAS to be American is not a good idea in my book but hey, now the people who were against this are probably happy Chris Evens is Cap....you ask for it, this is what you get. I think it's wrong to do this and in my view, I see this as a form of racism because Holywood and some fans are telling someone ''you can't do this job cause you ain't from around here''. It's my view....will it change? probably not. Will holywood change that? definitly not. To be fair...doesn't mean it's as direct racism as having a white hood over your head and many actors don't care about these things, which is good. Kuddos for Fox to pick Hugh Jackmen for Wolverine....Canadiens didn't go in uproar when the news was made....the important part was the character itself being portrait as Canadian.

Overall, it's an article that will create debates but, I'm sure everyone can agree racism in Hollywood is still there and will always be so in some form or antother. I am not ablsolute but I like this kind of article because it's something to be shared and discussed among us geeks of the world...(or is using the word geek racist???)

midwest216 3/29/2010 6:30:27 AM

nice comment JEDIBanner, good points.

hanso 3/29/2010 6:35:43 AM

I would like to add Guy Williams/George Hamilton/Anthony Hopkins who all played Mexican Don Diego De La Vega aka Zorro and Al Pacino who was Cuban Antonio Montana and Puerto Rican Carlitos Brigante.

goldeneyez 3/29/2010 6:39:32 AM

"The one thing worse than racism is reverse-racism..." John Ferrett

Really... pointing out disparities is worse than the disparities.

Rheul_home 3/29/2010 6:52:46 AM

 Although I do not know the intentions of Mr. Hoffman when he wrote this article I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. While I really don’t agree with everything on this list, it is commendable to bring this often ignored issue to light. @FerretJohn: In addition I also think it is deplorable to say that bringing these issues to light is reverse racisim. How is reverse racism worse that racism? I guess that means that injustices against the majority are somehow worse that the ones committed against the minority? That has to be one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard. The only way to fight racism is to expose it. To shout down an article for addressing the issue of racism in film is tantamount to calling civil rights activists "troublemakers" who should keep their mouths shut.

Tashiro 3/29/2010 7:01:11 AM

 Adding to the list would be the TV show:  Earthsea.  In the book series nearly every single character is not white, but for the TV show they made everyone white, and the one white character from the book they decided to make not white.

I also remember reading about one author where they put a white girl on the cover to represent the main character.  While the character's race is never specifically mentioned, it is heavily implied she's black.  When the author mentioned this to the publishing company, their response was, 'well, she lies about almost everything in the book, she's probably lying about that too' -- as if the author wouldn't know.

I've even heard it 'accepted' that you shouldn't put black people on the cover of books, because it doesn't sell as well as if the book has white people on the cover.

I find the entire thing disgusting, and thank you very much for taking the time to point out this kind of hypocracy.  ... oh gods, and don't remind me about Skids and Tracks from Transformers 2...

makabriel 3/29/2010 7:01:28 AM

#1 Will Smith as John West.  Nonononono..

 

kelso454 3/29/2010 7:06:59 AM

@ferret john---couldn't agree with you more.  Pointless article, lets not write just because we have words in our head...Some things have been said too much.  EVERYONE'S A RACIST! WE GET IT!

Nephandi 3/29/2010 7:09:32 AM

I'm not sure I'd classify casting an Australian in the role of an Englishman as racist. I always figured race referred more or less to your skin color and ethnic background. Not to mention that technically, Crowe would likely share ancestry with the British anyways.

goldeneyez 3/29/2010 7:10:33 AM

Here's something else that's really ironic to me.  There are a lot of fanboys, whose panties get in a bunch if one of their heroes is changed, i.e. using John Stewart as a Green Lantern as opposed to Hall Jordan.  Using Will Smith as Captain America (which I'm against myself... this is just for the sake of the argument).  I'm willing to bet that a lot of those same people don't have a problem with casting white people in roles that weren't white to begin with like the examples given in this article.

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