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wrrlykam 3/29/2010 9:31:21 AM

Only 2 Bond actors out of 6 were English. Next thing you know Hollywood will cast an American as Robin Hood.

I remember Ursula Le Guin not being too happy with any of the Earthsea productions due to racial miscasting.

Tashiro 3/29/2010 9:33:51 AM

 If we're going to point out Nick Fury from Ultimates (and Iron Man), not that the Wasp in Ultimates was made Asian.  For Ultimates, it didn't bother me at all, because the one thing I think comics do need is to make less 'white' super heroes, and to actually spread the base among more races and more equally between the sexes.  I was recently trying to work out super hero teams and look at the breakdown between men and women.  The 'core' JLA?  One woman.  The 'core' Avengers?  I can think of Wasp, anyone else?  How about the 'core' X-Men from way back?  Jean Gray.  Then I tried to think of 'mastermind' opponents for mainstream super heroes, and how many are strong female leader types?  What came to mind was... none.

Then you look at race.  Core JLA is white through-and-through.  Avengers I believe was as well, and no, I don't count 'The Falcon' or 'Black Panther' -- though I liked Falcon in Ultimates.  X-Men?  I do believe the core group were all white as well.

A friend of mine did something with Legion of Super Heroes which I liked -- she took the comic, and used photoshop to split up the ethnicities across the entire board.  I have to say, it looked a hell of a lot better than the original.  Apparently 'in the future' almost everyone is white.  Her taking steps to fix that made the comic look quite better.

Is this reverse racism?  I don't think so.  I think, instead, this is restoring an imbalance which has existed for a while.  Now, if you took an entire team of white guys, and suddenly decided to make them black or something, yes, I would call foul on it.  But spreading things out, to reflect the fact that there should be diversity, that's something else.

Tashiro 3/29/2010 9:34:53 AM

 @wrrlykam:  Yeah, as I'd mentioned.  She was very, very disappointed in that.  Then again, the people doing the production admitted, 'we're not interested in the people who read the books'.

PeaceSells 3/29/2010 9:38:23 AM

re: Casting Jake (white American) and another white girl as the female lead in the movie . . . very silly.

A better casting choice would have been John Abraham (google him); he has a bankable 'white' name, but he's Indian, with a family ancestory that actually hails from Persia. He does a lot of action movies (no need for roids, like with Jake) He is a movie star with a huge following and does a lot of english speaking in his roles.

http://picsbollywood.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/john-abraham-2.jpg

I don't know what the story is, but in the Prince of Persia games (the source material) the chick is an Indian Princess . . . so it makes sense to cast a white girl from the UK for that role, I guess . . . not like India doesn't have a lot of good looking actresses or anything (with a number who have already been in international movies non-native to India)

Very silly . . . guess we'll have to wait another 20 years for good casting to happen . . .

hanso 3/29/2010 9:50:14 AM

Viggo Mortesen was Lalin in Carlito's Way.

The chick who was in The Abyss and Robin Hood played Tony Montana's sister in Scarface.

Whoever the female lead for West Side Storywas, she was playing a Puertorican.

jedibanner 3/29/2010 9:57:44 AM

Although, we have to consider when we talked about comics that, most of these characters (if not all) were created in an era where white was the ''rule of thumb'' in those days. So when we talk about the JLA or Avengers being mostly white, I would assume it's because when they were created, they were made to be ''bankable'' and also, who would've believed a black superman in 1940 anyway?

Wiseguy, i expected you to be part of this whole thing way earlier then this...what happened? Just teasing.

 

Tashiro 3/29/2010 10:00:28 AM

 @jedibanner:  True enough, which is why I'm glad they did mixed things up more with the Ultimates.

Tevii 3/29/2010 10:01:36 AM

@Tashiro - reverse racism is not when its racist against whites....  to have a term that SPECIFICALLY means racist against whites would inherenetly be racist term. Racist is racist.... reverse racism is a misused term. Reverse

I agree there should be more ethnicity, but to turn an EXISITING white character black IS RACIST......... you want more black, asian, hispanic or WHATEVER  characters.... then we should CREATE NEW ONES... not change old ones.

1) Why should we take away white characters...that is racist (Firestorm, GL, Iron Man, Mr. Terrific, Alicia from FF, Nick Fury, Catwoman, Captain America, even Steel )

2) Why should ANY ethnicity get a HAND me Down Character..... that is racist (at least GL and Iron Man can ALWAYS use both)

NEW CHARACTERS!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE WINS...........

Tashiro 3/29/2010 10:11:43 AM

 @Tevii:

 1) Firestorm is certainly not racist.  The original Firestorm 'disbanded' and a black guy picked up the power.  That's fine.  Green Lantern?  The ring passed on.  Nick Fury?  New comic series, fresh start.  Thus, I've no problem with the Wasp, Alicia, etc, being a different colour.

2) Depends on the storytelling, or whether or not the series is a reboot.  Ergo why I'm fine with the Ultimate line of comics.  You can completely ignore previous continuity.

And don't get me started on the 'why I hate most comics' rants.  I'd love to see new characters paving the way, and old characters retiring due to old age, injuries, or simply dying off.  And staying that way!

Rheul_home 3/29/2010 10:33:29 AM

Diversifying is not racism. Michal Clark Duncan playing Kingpin is not racist. If he had played Kingpin in "whiteface" it would be racism... Seems some folks on this thread are on a slippery slope and need to examine themselves a little more closly. I think JediBanner explained all of this quite clearly back a few pages.

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