Wiseguy...no I am not a Cleveland fan at all..far from it. As a native of the Detroit area we are actually mortal enemies. I Can't stand leBron and I'm glad that the rest of the NBA fans are seeing him for what he is. I think its great the kids got money...but i don't like the show off to do it. Athletes with class don't need to publicize it when they give money to charity and they certainly don't parade the kids out on TV to show what a great guy they are.
@ Hobbs
As both a Green Bay fan and a Brett Favre fan, I don't think Favre really screwed over the Pack so much as he still wanted to play and Green Bay were trying to look toward the future and team build as opposed to win championships. They pass on a lot of good free agents at the time who could have made the Packers contenders.
If I were in Brett's shoes & could still play that well at that age and make the kind of money he does, I'd high tail it out of Green Bay too.
As far as the Lebron thing, him leaving Cleveland wasn't bad. Like so many have said he fulfilled his contract, but they way he did it,charity or not, was tacky as hell.
Tim, you make some valid points. The fact they didn't go further in the playoffs is on him. As much as a number 2 guy would have helped make the difference in my opinion the fact is he sucked too many times in games he should have stepped up his game. If he was putting up numbers like Jordan did and they still lost I would agree the focus would be more on the team than on him. There were also times Mike Brown should done more...a Phil Jackson doesn't lose with that team.
golden, you are in the minority then when it comes to Favre fans. As far as I know..and correct me if I'm wrong...they did make the NFC championship game the season before all the major drama happened. His INT ended that game as well. I only make that point because everyone mentions the fact the Pack didn't get the free agents Favre wanted yet they still went to the title game and lost because of him in the end. Granted I don't think GB would have beat Patriots anyways.
I do know he didn't say he wanted to come back for sure until about a week before training camp started...no team can operate that way unless you are Minnesota and have no QB worth a damn that can start thus you can let Brett be the diva he wants to be.
The problem I have with Brett is that he wanted to stick it to the Packers and joined a rival team. I saw the interview with him where he said Lombardi went to another team...um yeah Bart, he did but he didn't go to a division rival and want to stick it to his old team. Lombardi had too much class for that...Bart Favre didn't.
Boxker...that's funny because I am a Pistons fan too NOT a CAVS fan ha ha ha...and my issue isn't with him leaving but how he left. Abdul Jabbar was traded from Milwaukee to LA, likewise Chamberlain was traded to LA as well...They didn't leave. Doctor J never left a team. The ABA disbanded and he was a free agent. What has Adrian Dantley to do with it? Dantley was traded to Dallas for mark Aguirre in February 1989, three months before the playoffs started, not the night before they started as you indicated. This isn't about hurt feelings. It's about the right and wrong way of doing thins. I agree with David Stern, LeBron got some bad advice and handled things poorly. simple as that. I also don't like the way that he, Wade, and Bosch had this whole stage number where they were dancing about and preening for the crowd. If i were one of the other players on the Heat that would really piss me off.
I don't want to make any excuses for Lebron but when has he ever had a chance to become a real man? Who has taught him how to have class and show respect? This kid when directly from High School to the NBA where he was treated like a God and given everything he ever wanted. I was reading somewhere he likes to party and play Xbox when he isn't playing basketball. Okay, 25 years old I can understand that but where has this guy learned to be a man, so to speak?
Hobbs...good point. That's it in a nutshell. He is a kid who was a millionaire before he ever played a game in the NBA. he's still a kid. That's where the people advising him have to give him better advice. Going on TV to essentially flip Cleveland the bid to go to Miami was just dumb. Had he handled it with a bit more dignity there would not be this backlash
tjanson go back and re-read MY EARLIER POST. dID i NOT SAY THAT THE BIGGEST BACKSTABBERS in Cleveland where the BIG BUSINESS LEADERS who closed down factories and other places of employment in that area over the last 35 years..... not some kid from Akron playing basketball.
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select I do know what I am talking about I am a big sports fan, followed sports for most of my life. When Grant Hill left us, it hurt, but we didn't flip out. One thing is fact. If Lebron had of said I am staying in Cleveland, you guys would not have had a problem with anything he did, not even the tv show. Another fact, if the Cavs had of put his team in place(like the way the other teams did, something EVERYONE knew) to keep James and get Wade and Bosh, you would have told the toronto fans and Heat fans to get over it. Sounds like you know nothing.