I'm waiting for WestWorld to happen.

Every time I see a silly reality TV show, I think "how long until Running Man?"  I guarantee someone is going to put something like that movie on the air, assuming they haven't already in some foreign country.  Soon, we will see convicted felons die on the air.  It is not a matter of "if" but "when." 

No, I will not stop blaming Abrams.  In fact, I'll blame Paramount for the idea too.  I hate reboots.  It was a bad idea and Abrams made it worse. 

Starlight hates on just about anything non-twilight related! lol Just kidding Star! lol :)

Paramount, Abrams, Brannon Braga, Orci, Roberto...wipe 'em all out, hang 'em from the highest yardarm...

they're not repackaging old ideas and concepts -- they're repackaging names, at most...that's where the actual "Trek" comparisons end...the rest is non-Trek related material

I must say, wonderfalls (Bender! whoo hoo!) inspires nothing...except explosions and having legends act like children...come on, having Vulcan children making fun of Spock for his mother, really? it's tantamount to "yo mamma" jokes in space

it fails to inspire....unless your only interested in the CGI, motorcycles, convertibles, and an Orion girl which is represented by the biggest bimbo ever to enter Trek history

you can't inspire technology when you ignore the laws of physics and reality and replace them with the theories of WOW! AWESOME! and such...Spock's ship is still laughable with the rotating assembly

and using a hand lever to enter warp? what's next, revving the ship with handlebars like a goddamned motorcycle?

no, I'm not letting Riker's joystick here off the hook either...oh, sorry, the "manual steering column"

updating Trek is fine, but this was just visual enhancements for the sake of them, and downgraded some visuals (the Kelvin's innards look like the factory I worked in), and so on...

there's nothing to inspire here...it's just a 13 year old boy's wet dream of speed, sex for the sake of sex, getting pissed off because you can, and big monsters...the anti-Trek, in other words

Trek was about science, exploration, humanity, philosophy, adventure, and holding up a mirror to ourselves to say "we can do better than this, and here's how it should be"

Star Wars was about mysticism, mythology, history and archetypes...

both were capable of having action, Roddenberry wanted a better tomorrow, yes, but also understood the need to defend ourselves, hence phasers, photon torpedoes, shields, etc., because the bad guys won't necessarily go away completely

this is still just Trek by name, but that's all the kept: proper names of races, people, and things...

 I agree with you Starlight, I'm a long time Trek fan and after watching the new Trek movie I left the theater with a empty feeling. Visually it was a beautiful film and the actors did a good job. The problem was the story and how 40 years of Trek history was thrown out the window.

 I have friends who were inspired by Star Trek to become Doctors or Engineers and there are many Astronauts that credit Star Trek for them wanting to be involved in the space program.

I have to agree with Starlight, it did fail to inspire.  And those of you that say it did please enlighten me to how?

I actually remember reading several places that the Enterprise engine room looked like a Brewery....and low and behold the behind the scenes show that it WAS!!  LOL, that was some funny sheet. It was the budwieser brewery in California.  I guess that explains why it looked like one....yeah, some big inspiration going on there!

Like they even said inthe behind the scenes...Star Trek was classic music, Star Wars was Rock and Roll and they wanted to bring more Rock and Roll to Star Trek...they did, things blew up really really good!

I think the new Star Trek wil linspire people to do the same things you mentioned mike10... just not 30 - 50 geeks...

seriously when Trek came out you know there were plenty of people sayin "It's just gunsmoke in space"

It's fine to love the old (even though it has just as many flaws, convienent plot devices, and laughable moments as it did defining moments)

You know the saying bout old dogs...well unfortunately you guys are the old dogs... no offense.

I loved the new Trek, and raised myself on TOS and TNG...

Everyone bitches about the engine room, how do you know it won't inspire someone to create an engine room that looks like that.

Starlight, I also agree. (It's adding up here!)

I did enjoy the movie for its fantastic look & FX, the actors capturing the essence of the characters. But it does not inspire in any way. Part of this I can understand. They had to re-intro the cast and part of the original premise. In terms of tech that inspires people to be engineers in the movie format you don't have alot of time for that. A TV series gives time to focus on new gear and its possibilities.

But in philosophy it does nothing and there are no excuses for that. This could be any space movie with earth people flying to other stars. It does nothing with Roddenberry's whole reason for the show.

To just touch on this, all they needed was a scene in the bar after Kirk's fight and Capt. Pike could have said,

"A few hundred years ago, Mankind was just like you. Brash, arrogant, angry, existing but not living. Then they looked to the stars and wondered. They wondered if there was so much more that we can be. Mankind pulled itself up and became its better self. Now there is no more war. No more hunger. Everyone lives free and can be all they can, not only with ourselves but with every being in the galaxy that chooses to. What about you, Kirk? When are you going to wonder?"

oh yes, let's build an engine room like that -- we got lots of purified water in here, it serves no real purpose, but we got lots of really clean water here in the 23'rd century, and we carry it by boatload next to our engines...we really oughta put it in the cargo bays, but no that would make too much sense, it's the engine room for our water -- and beer too!

it's bull...they already invented a space that looks like that...a brewery, as hobbs stated

there is still little to no value here -- it's a scripted exercise is running from one scene to another, from one SFX to another, and could we bed a bimbo please?

take out the American Pie aspects, and the need to be bad and so on....basically remove all the immaturity from it and replace it with what you kicked to the curb...aka Roddenberry, Michael Piller, Ronald D. Moore, Manny Coto, etc.

I like American Pie...(except the straight to dvd shows)...I don't mind being immature for fun, I quite like watching girls with big chest humps in naughty movies...it's all good...but it has no place in Star Trek

see darkknight? it wasn't just me defending Twilight...

hey hanso, how about a road trip to keel haul Abrams?