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karas1 6/6/2010 7:17:36 AM

InnerSanctum, I suspect Snyder had Roscharch chop up the child killer with a cleaver so he could splash more blood around.  Leaving him to burn was more horrific, but with less snazy visuals.

Actually, the green chick was not without precident.  Supposedly the Orions had a recessive gene where some female children were born with green skin.  Aside from being green, the gene made such women nymphomaniacs so they were kept as sex slaves by the males.  I'm not making this up.  Green slave women were shown in the TOS episode The Menagerie.  I guess any species which was shown in the TV series is fair game for the movies.  But that an Orion slave girl should be a cadet at Starfleet is... unlikely.  Her genetic defect would make her poor officer material.

I'd also like to point out that aside from being Kirk's one night stand, she was Uhura's roommate and since she was posted to one of the ships other than The Enterprise by Spock, and all the other ships were destroyed, she's dead.  Neither Uhura nor Kirk mentioned that their friend was dead or expressed any remorse or regret.  They were a little busy though...

redhairs99 6/6/2010 9:53:58 AM

I do agree that Veidt's character was probably my biggest problem with the movie too.  I never read the comics until a couple of weeks before the movie came out, but after watching the trailers, I pretty well knew that this was the villian of the movie.  Yeah, he did come across a bit arrogant in comics too, but it was still a better reveal when he killed all the scientists working with him.

Hobbs 6/6/2010 7:04:06 PM

Couple days late but you can't label a director after 3 films because they had violence in it. That would be like saying because my first three girlfriends were blonde that's all I ever looked for. This is making movies, not playing a pick up basketball game. Not too many people can direct and you take what is offered to you in this case Dawn Of The Dead which was a succes which lead to 300 which was a mega success that no one was expecting and now Watchmen and I understand Warner went after him hard because after 300 they felt he was the only one who could bring it to the big screen seeing 300 was a broad comic as well. Now that he has all this success under his belt he can start to choose his own projects and he picked an animated one to do next.

I can't tell you how to feel about a director but geez, 3 films and you are already to write him off. Imagine if people would have wrote Spielberg off because Jaws was such a gore fest (for the day).
 

InnerSanctum 6/6/2010 7:22:51 PM

 Karas1 you are really giving this Star Trek film some thought.  And, I really appreciate your insights.  Something I don't think the film even deserves. You obviously would have done better writing the script (I would have appreciate more fan insights and less "how cool would it be to SHOW Kirk bedding the green chick.  Which has been a long standing joke since I can remember.)   I was more put off that they went "over the top" with many moments in the film including Kirk being a "horn dog".  It was so "in your face".   I felt it was just a silly popcorn movie.  Some loved it, I found it a major let down.  Even the series took itself more seriously than this film.  I wish the writers had watched the first two films a few more times to better understand what made us love these characters in the first place.  Because, I feel the first two Star Trek films made them very human and not some juiced up cartoon characters.  

InnerSanctum 6/6/2010 7:24:32 PM

 BTW, visually, I still really get a kick out of the Watchmen film.  There are so many ways it could have gone bad.  

karas1 6/7/2010 3:11:49 AM

InnerSanctum, Star Trek WAS a silly popcorn movie.  That's all it was ever meant to be.  I can understand why people who wanted a silly popcorn movie were delighted with it because when it came to the elements that people want in silly popcorn movies (good FX, attractive actors, lots of action) it excelled.

Yeah, I think I could have written a better script.  Almost anybody could have written a better script, because the script seemed to be the least thought out or developed part of the movie with gaping holes in logic and scientific acuracy.  The characterization wasn't true to TOS.  It was full of silly moments such as Kirk's giant hands and Scotty being sucked through pipes in the engine room (a personal low for me).

Personally, I didn't find that having Kirk sleep his way through the female cadets was inconsistent with the way he was portrayed in TOS.  He was supposed to be a different-girl-in-every-port kind of guy.  But I can see where the whole bedroom farce kind of ethos with him hiding under the bed and finding out he had slept with the roommate of the girl he had been chasing and couldn't catch would be grating to you.

Yeah, I put a lot of thought into it.  I've been a Trekkie since I was 2 and seeing the show disrespected in this way made me really mad.  I was very unsatisfied with the film when I saw it and all the posts I've written about it on Mania have really crystalized my thoughts and feelings about it.  It left a rancid taste in my mouth and I'm not looking forward to seeing Abrams churn out another generic scifi/action flick, call it Star Trek, and make another mint with people praising it to the skies.  Let him go ruin some other franchise, or even better, start a new franchise of his own where he can be as silly and slapdash as he likes without offending an existing fanbase.

Hobbs, I'm judging Snyder on 1 film.  I didn't see his other 2 films so I feel judging him on them would be unfair.  Is judging Snyder on 1 film fair?  Maybe not, but the element that seems to be his trademark really turns me off.  Is he capable of making good films without slo mo hyper violence in them?  It's entirely possible.  Let him make such a film and I'll see it and I'll tell you how I like it.  Until then I'll stand by my oppinion  that I really disliked that element in Watchmen.  I've been a fan of the book for 20 years and I wanted to like the movie so badly.  And I found the violence so off putting and disgusting.  It's a question of taste and really, that a middle aged woman should have different taste than a bunch of 20 and 30 something males (which seems, from what I can tell, to be the average Maniac) isn't that surprising.

rasgonzo 6/10/2010 7:33:10 PM

I'm suprised nobody has metioned Jean-Pierre Jeunet.  Notible work Delicatessen, City of Lost Children, Amelie.  (I'll forgive him for Alien Resurrection, it was Hollyweird's fault anyway)

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