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The Twilight Saga: Eclipse Movie Review (Article) - 6/30/2010 9:07:50 AM

Karas1, I think the point that jedi makes is that these movies DON'T express her moral values, per se.  They just water down the imagery of concepts that are otherwise VERY brutal.  It's like watching an edited version of Braveheart without the sex scenes or violence.  The ideas of war and lost love are there, the ideas of hate and loss and revenge... you just don't see the ultimate expression of those emotions.  That's not "morality," that's denial.  It's like if you shot a gun at someone, but closed your eyes so you didn't see the impact or the damage that the bullet impact makes.  You can't say that makes your shooting of the gun any more moral or ethical.

As I understand it, in the books when Edward and Bella finally get married (sorry if that's a spoiler for anyone, but... duh!), he really DOES ravage her.  And the scene in the final book when she gives birth is this massive, violent, bloody event as the baby tears it's way out of Bella.  Is that moral, just because these things are saved until later on in the storyline?  Or are the movies ethically palatable for children if those scenes are abbreviated or now shown?

MNM DOES have every right to decide what is okay for her kids and what isn't.  I know when I took my daughter to see Iron Man in the theaters, her mother had a fit because she thought it was inappropriate.  But I'm not married to her, and I felt differently, so I took my daughter.  I understand that morality and ethics are not set in stone for everyone.  But trying to use morality and ethics to state that these movies are somehow "better" for kids than others in the genre is not necessarily a good argument either.

The Twilight Saga: Eclipse Movie Review (Article) - 6/30/2010 9:00:28 AM

MNM, you just did what EVER Twi-hard (GREAT term, btw, Rob!) and defender of this series of films does: you opened your argument with "you obviously haven't read the books." You know what? When a book is translated to film, you should HAVE to read the books to feel some attachment to the characters. All of you (and you're ALL female, btw) don't seem capable of separating yourselves from what you read in the books to what is NOT on the screen. We (the men you take to see these movies) need to have character development and a bit more expository dialogue to explain what is going on in her head. Instead, it's 2 hours of a girl moping around on the screen. YOU understand it, because you remember what she was thinking at those parts of the book. But for those of us who haven't read the books, it's JUST A GIRL MOPING AROUND. We don't see anything beyond that. And a movie about anyone just wandering around feeling sorry for themselves for 2 hours is, my most defintions, a boring, shitty movie.

As for your objections to all the sex and violence, here's a question: why do you WANT to take your kids to a vampire/werewolf movie at all?! Vampires are the mythological origins of the idea of a serial rapist! They sneak into your room at night, savage you, from which they gain a near-sexual release, and then disappear into the night! HOW and WHY would you want to see a watered down, "romantic" version of THAT?! And werewolves are the original serial murderers: every full moon or some other calendar-related event occurs and they freak out and go on a rampage of slaughter. These are myths of IMMENSE power and significance that have their place in almost every culture in the world. But you get upset when movies about these myths show sex and violence that your young children can't see. NEWSFLASH: they SHOULDN'T BE SEEING THEM AT ALL! That kind of stuff is for adults or even older teenagers who are approaching adulthood and need to be exposed to the rough side of life.

My daughter is now 6 years old, and I wouldn't take her to see these movies, or any other vampire/werewolf film. The themes, whether they are openly discussed and visually expressed on screen or not, are still there, and they are not for kids. Your idea that they are palatable to kids because they are so visually watered-down is foolish and naive. Take your kids to see something else.

When you want to see your heroes from these books come to life, by all means, enjoy it. Just realize that these movies are not Academy Award or even Saturn Award-winning material. You love them because you've read the books, because you're seeing your characters come to life, not because they are themselves great movies. Exactly how we all feel when we see our heroes (Iron Man, Hulk, Superman, Batman, or, ahem... Captain America!) come to life on the big screen. The difference is, we seem more capable of admitting when a movie like "Batman and Robin" is a steaming pile of elephant diarrhea, no matter how badly we wanted to see a decent Batman film.

The Twilight Saga: Eclipse Movie Review (Article) - 6/30/2010 8:59:53 AM

Rob, that review was HILARIOUS!!  I've been dragged by girls to see the first 2 films in this neverending, teen-angst shitstorm, and I will NOT get dragged to the third one.  I was tricked by the trailers of "New Moon" that there would be actual violence in that one; damn I was disappointed.


Wright say ANT-MAN is a Mash Up (Article) - 6/30/2010 8:37:50 AM

Has Wright said yet if he's doing "Hank Pym" Ant-man or one of the later incarnations?  As the consummate Avengers fan, I'm really looking forward to it, either way, but I do have a slight preference for Pym (plus that'd tie into the Avengers-series of films possibly).

Wiseguy, I was just going to say that Daredevil would be a great TV property.  They could do a half-legal/half-superhero show (which we know the networks would love).  I also think that Ghost Rider would be a good TV property for a couple reasons: a) they could do something akin to Supernatural, with some "monster of the week" episodes AND an over-arching plotline that runs through multiple seasons, b) the "endless wanderer" theme has always appealed to network tv ("Kung Fu," "A-Team," and the 70s "Incredible Hulk" to name a few), and c) with Supernatural likely ending after this next season, there is a dearth of good horror/genre TV right now.  It's too bad that the X-men properties are tied up in film... the young X-men could work that whole "teen angst" thing that seems to be running so well right now (hell, it works for Smallville, even to this day when the characters are near their 30s!)

I'm also really looking forward to Superman/Batman: Apocalypse, especially now that Daly and Conroy are back.  "Crisis on Two Earths" was a decent film, but it just seemed off to me without those two guys handling their usual acting duties.


LEGO Directors Found (Article) - 6/29/2010 11:55:21 AM

I love LEGOs.  My daughter loves LEGOs.  We've played almost all of the LEGO video games.  I even advance-ordered the LEGO Harry Potter game 4 months early.  I cannot imagine a movie about LEGOs that is at all good.  LEGOs are about being a blank slate and each person puts their own imagination to them... not using the toys as a forum to push a certain plot or character.

I won't be holding my breath for this.

The Gates: What Lies Beneath Review (Article) - 6/28/2010 1:32:19 PM

The ads for this show looked lame (good job, ABC), but since summer is such a tv graveyard, I might check it out.  Pony seems to recommend it, and Kurt doesn't seem entirely averse to it, so I'll give it a look next week.

Tommy Lee Jones Confirmed for CAPTAIN AMERICA (Article) - 6/28/2010 1:22:29 PM

WO!  Wait a second.... I just read that line, "The character will be updated for the film."  WTF does THAT mean!?!?!?

Tommy Lee Jones Confirmed for CAPTAIN AMERICA (Article) - 6/28/2010 1:20:39 PM

F***ing AWESOME!!  One of my all-time favorite actors playing a role in the movie of my all-time favorite hero.  I will take this moment to brag that I called it way back when Tommy Lee Jones was first rumored to be in the film that he'd be playing the role of the officer who runs Operation: Rebirth and recruits Rogers.  FTW!

(Granted, I think I posted that the character was a general, not a colonel, but that's close enough!  lol.)

Now if we can just make sure that his costume is classic Cap, not Ultimate Cap.  Please, please, please, Mr. Johnston!!  Take a cue from your peer, Mr. Favreau, and stick to the source material!!

Pixar Dominates Box Office (Article) - 6/25/2010 12:28:58 PM

The Expendables will rule the later summer!

But next Friday "The Last Airbender" is going to make a serious presence for the 4th of July weekend.  Mark my words!!!!!!

10 Great Scenes From Horrible Movies (Article) - 6/25/2010 12:09:55 PM

Charlie's Angels?  REALLY?!  I'm sure you could've thought of a better example than THAT!

I also agree with Wiseguy in that the 2nd and 3rd Matrix films weren't horrible.  They just couldn't possibly be as cool as the first.


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