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Mania Review: The Dark Knight Rises (Article) - 7/20/2012 11:48:15 PM

I didn't say it was a comic book movie.  I said it was BASED ON a comic book.  Go back and read my previous comments on this thread.  I was one of the first to say that people need to separate Nolan's films from the comics.  And the people who are the most up in arms about the details and the accuracy in relation to the source material are the ones who need to remember that it's just a movie. 

There will never be a perfect comic book movie, at least not the kind the uber comic fans require.  For instance, I love Tom Clancy novels.  I've read each one.  I can pick out every little detail that the film makers have gotten wrong with each Clancy movie.  But I'm not going to sit here and pick apart the movies frame by frame.  Why?  Because they're movies.  And movies based on literary material, even comics, will never capture the magic and imagination that the authors did on paper.  It's just not possible.  Too much narrative and too much detail that is left to each individual's imagination.  No matter how good the special effects are and no matter how good the directors/actors are, film will never catch up to the human imagination.  And that was my point.  Critique the film for what it is, but don't nitpick over things that movies can never hope to live up to.  The human imagination.


Mania Review: The Dark Knight Rises (Article) - 7/20/2012 9:33:24 PM

Jesus.  It's a friggin' MOVIE.  And a movie based on a COMIC BOOK.  If all movies were meant to be completely realistic and account for things such as time (BTW, the cops were only underground for 23 days, the time they said it took for the reactor core to deteriorate and explode) then all we would be watching in the theaters and on DVD is a bunch of people walking around with a camera filming everyday life.  Movies are fun and entertaining for a reason:  they provide us with an escape from reality.  Seriously, you're gonna nitpick over little details such as how quickly facial hair grows and what the cops did about having to take a dump?  And BTW, Bane was the one providing food and water to them because as he said, he was giving the city back to the people and wasn't going to kill the cops, only imprison them.  Bane didn't even have any authority in the court that Scarecrow was running. 

Really, we need to all calm down about this.  It's a movie.  You either liked it or you didn't.  I feel like some people in this thread are taking this WAY too seriously.  Maybe you have gripes because you read comics as a kid and this trilogy didn't turn out the way you wanted it to.  So what?  Cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get over it.  We're all adults here now.  It's ok to still keep in touch with your inner child and with the nostalgia of the comics you grew up with, but let's be adults about it.

Mania Review: The Dark Knight Rises (Article) - 7/20/2012 7:03:08 PM

monelonmonday, finally someone who understand what I'm saying!

Mania Review: The Dark Knight Rises (Article) - 7/20/2012 6:40:36 PM

Allow me to plant this seed for you fine folks.  SPOILERS!!!!





Nolan said he wouldn't return for another Batman movie.  What about a Nightwing movie?

Mania Review: The Dark Knight Rises (Article) - 7/20/2012 1:59:20 PM

Again, this is Nolan's Batman and should only sparingly be compared to the comics.  Maybe in the comics Batman would never walk away, but this isn't your average comic book movie.  In fact, I would argue that it isn't a comic book movie at all, and Nolan simply took a character out of a comic book and did his own thing with it.  I really think in order to fully understand and appreciate this trilogy, one must separate the comics from the Nolan character.

Biel out of Wolverine (Article) - 7/20/2012 1:52:56 PM

Touche, Hanso.

Mania Review: The Dark Knight Rises (Article) - 7/20/2012 1:01:55 PM





Gothic, what makes you think he's dead?  I really think some people are overcomplicating things with the ending and reading into things that aren't there.  The ending was pretty straightforward IMO.  The Wayne Enterprises techs said that the auto pilot had been fixed by Bruce months before.  Safe to say he wouldn't have fixed it if he didn't intend to use it.  And as far as Alfred seeing Bruce AND Selina at the cafe at the end, that was no fantasy "vision."  It's not meant to be an ambiguous ending.  Batman bailed out, survived, went on a much needed vacation, and passed the torch because he just physically couldn't do it anymore.  I mean, he didn't even really defeat Bane and Talia.  He was basically just a figurehead who led the attack to take back Gotham.  He's getting older and the doc even told him that his body is a wreck.  No way he can continue being Batman.  He retired and will presumably help train his replacement.

Mania Review: The Dark Knight Rises (Article) - 7/20/2012 12:30:54 PM

Yeah.  Sorry, Shogun, but I think your perception of the ending of the movie has been completely skewed by your inability to separate the Nolan Batman from the pure comic book character.  I'm not faulting you for that though.  It's just that it really is impossible to fully understand it, especially the conclusion, if you can't make that distinction.  The best way to approach the Nolan films is to just completely throw out everything you know about the Batman comics.  Just pretend they don't even exist.  I guess that's why I enjoyed these movies so much.  I've never been a comic book reader.  For me the Batman character pretty much started with seeing the first Burton/Keaton Batman in the theater.  Obviously I knew the character before that, but my point is that I never read the comics, so it was all pretty new to me.  Again, you have to separate the comic book Batman from the Nolan Batman.  Even though Nolan gives nods to some elements of the comics, it's still something completely different and should be evaluated as such.

Get it started right! (Article) - 7/20/2012 12:02:51 PM

So 110%?

Biel out of Wolverine (Article) - 7/20/2012 11:58:36 AM

I don't care.  Until I see a trailer that suggests to me that it might be better than Origins; then I just don't give a rat's ass.


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