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DarkJedi41 5/7/2014 2:41:18 PM

 I'm not sure about that free advertising -nobody is going to see these movies based on the show. They were going to see the movies anyway and are watching the show because of the movies. What they were trying to do was create a show that ties the movies together so people who were fans of the movies would watch the show, not the other way around. The issue is they can't truly tie in story lines because you have A list actors in these movies and unknowns in the show. Pierce should have some "appreance" in the show leading up to movies. A quick ending sequence where he asks Fury what Colstons team is up to. Have Colstons team at the Triscalion for an episode and ask "what's down there". We all know Robert Redford is lot appearing on this show but that is what they need to do. They could do so much more with this show to make it better and more cohesive to the overall universe.

fft5305 5/7/2014 3:02:04 PM

ElBaz, you're right. Skrulls are with the FF rights at Fox. That's why the Chituari were used in the Avengers movie as the aliens, and the blue alien in the drawer seems to be a Kree. They can't use Skrulls.

Wes1970 5/7/2014 3:35:59 PM

 @invisioner ..You may have hit upon the idea they are going for. Not withstanding possible TV or movie rights by various studios I suppose. But it does fit in mostly with whats been going on. Skye is known to be an 084 so in order to fool the blood tests they have ran and such being a Skrull makes sense. The destruction of the villiage and her rescue by the two shield agents points to some kind of battle between Kree and Skrull forces...possibly the result of which is where the blue (Kree) alien that was part of the Tahiti project came from. We have also seen from the Sif episode they directly referenced Kree as an alien race in addition to the Kree being featured in the upcoming Guardians movie. 

If the Skrulls and the rights to them do belong to Fox then possibly they fall into a rather grey area. I mean the use of the Chitari in Avengers makes more sense than Skrulls anyway.  If they had used Skrulls as the big bad aliens then where would we be in 10 years when they want to go with say the Kree/Skrull war? for I dunno Avengers 5 or something lol. But other than Super Skrull which hasnt been used in any film to my knowledge the Skrulls as a whole are just a race of shape shifters. It seems to me that studios are more concered with specific heros and villians not just a entire alien race. That might be the loophole that will allow them to use Skrulls in AoS? Much the same as its giving us two versions of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. 

 

Wes1970 5/7/2014 3:43:30 PM

 Oh and on one other note about the episode, I do believe they intended that the breakout of Ward was done without the knowledge of Shield. Easy to figure that Garret would have others under his command that were also Hydra. And they didnt blow up the place or kill everyone, just took off with one kid. Something like that would barely make the local news not require a response from Shield. Besides the fact that he wouldnt have done it had he not known he could get away with it..Ward at that time was not valuable at all. So basicly Garret would know there was no risk to himself. 

ElBaz13 5/7/2014 4:36:24 PM

Exactly Wes.

Garrett was already disenchanted with SHELD and joined Hydra. That means there were more than one Hydra agents working together. Perhaps getting to young kids like Ward was a better recruiting plan for Hydra as opposed to someone who might rat out on them and be super loyal to SHIELD like Coulson or Triplett.

 

ElBaz13 5/7/2014 4:39:53 PM

As for Skrull rights, James Gunn said recently:

Marvel only partially owns Skrulls, and also for the record, we don't own the Badoon either. So people were asking why we have the Sakaarans in the film, we don't own the Badoon.

So, what does "partial" entitle to?  Like Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch? The MCU Skrulls can't have the Super Skrull, that we know and anything else?

Also, when Avengers came out, Kevin Feige shed light on this as well:

Yes, Skrulls have a big connection to Fantastic Four. So there are some contractual limitations about who can do what when it comes to Skrulls. Though that is not why we didn’t do Skrulls. There is already enough going on in this movie. 

So now i'm curious. I sure hope we will see Kree/Skrull war somehow. It would be cool if it would cross over with the Defenders show and MAoS.

tjanson 5/7/2014 5:17:43 PM
 El Baz I am not debating the fact that Ward had already turned HYDRA BUT...as they said this was 15 years ago.  Garrett continued to be, for all Fury knew, a loyal agent up until a few weeks ago.  

WES: And come on now...several armed men break into a juvenile detention facility and apparently kidnap an underaged young man and you think THAT would not make the local news?  Are you nuts?  Nancy Grace would be all over that shit.  It was another case of writers glossing over what they felt was  minor detail.

Wes1970 5/7/2014 5:20:19 PM

 Ya ElBaz thats along the lines I expected. Looks like if it turns out to be Skrulls and Skye is one of them then they have worked out a deal to use them for TV at least.  With the talk of Marvel and its plans going out well past Avengers 3 and Thanos...makes sense to start setting up , Very Very subtily , a distant threat.  One that would involve both earths heroes and Guardians of the Galaxy. A Kree/Skrull war would fit that bill nicely. 

Wes1970 5/7/2014 5:28:31 PM

 Tim , ya I agree it would have been newsworthy but with all the crap going on in the world would Shield have taken notice of something like that. Very doubtful. Along with that what I said about Garret not being the type to pull that off without fully knowing he could do it and not be caught. I dont feel they have to bust in and take him out in green and yellow hydra suits to show us whos doing it.  Im not totally defending the episode however your reveiew was pretty accurate. 

jd25u 5/7/2014 6:29:21 PM

@Lazarus ... I noticed where the grappling hook appeared to land as well and initially thought the same shenanigans; however, it is not out of realm of possibility that it simply shot through the drop ceiling and anchored in the cement ceiling above it.

I'm not quite getting all the Skye bashing that goes on in these threads.  She brings some humor to the show (particularly one line in this episode), is not terrible to look at, but mostly gives the audience an outsider's (ie. us) point-of-view.

My favorite line this episode: "Get ready for a file transfer"

I foresee Deathlok changing allegiance (if they can figure out the whole head-bomb thing and rescue his Son somehow, and helping Coulson's team eventually.

but mostly what I want to say about this show is this:  In Whedon I trust.

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