Sekirei: Complete Collection

[WTK]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91JlXQsi0BL._AA1500_.jpg

Sekirei: Complete Collection due out on 11/23/10.
Contains episodes 1-12 plus the Kusano's First Shopping Trip OVA.

Special Features: Textless Opening Song, Textless Closing Song, Trailers.

[Consignia]

Lovely, another piece from Funimation's timeless "What can the local nursey-school kids knock-up in 5 minutes" collection.

[WTK]

A rather lackluster cover art here. It just seems like it can be better. This will be a maybe purchase for now.

[idunno]

Surprisingly boring and ugly given the show.

[dragonpiece]

Call me a perv, but I was expecting a bit more from a show like this..

[BalmungHHQ]

I don't mind this cover... I was just expecting a group shot or something...

But, for the record the image used here comes from R2 vol.1:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=ANSB-3671

Anyway, I'll be getting this :)

[WTK]

I don't mind this cover... I was just expecting a group shot or something...

But, for the record the image used here comes from R2 vol.1:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=ANSB-3671
Overview...there are definitely some interesting artwork here. I wonder if we will see some of these as the interior artwork.

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[sythspawn]

Damn, the torpedoes!

I don't know anything about this show. Maybe I'll Netflix it.

[doubleO7]

Lackluster cover art.

But I'll still be buying this.

[Damius]

Well, this is not the best choice for the series.

[Classical]

I'm also not liking this cover. I think the choice of artwork is fine, but I'm not digging the selection of colors. The dark blue spine + neon pink title text stand out, and not in a good way.

[Zombie_Punk]

Yeah, it's quite ugly and bland. I have a mild interest in the series however and a bad cover won't stop me from buying it.

[Shirou Emiya]

Will FUNimation Dub the Kusano's First Shopping Trip OVA?

[akcoll99]

Wow, well Funi at least leaves no doubt as to what they feel the show's two main selling points are. Of course, I have it on pre-order so I guess I can say I'm sold... :P

[BalmungHHQ]

Will FUNimation Dub the Kusano's First Shopping Trip OVA?
I don't see why not

[Shirou Emiya]

Will FUNimation Dub the Kusano's First Shopping Trip OVA?
I don't see why not

Just asking, since they did not dub the Vandread OVAs.

[Whoomp]

Not only does the art itself look really sloppy and badly done (with odd anatomy, not counting the melons) but the background is really the most generic thing ever. Even if I dislike this series there are way better art for it available so there is no reason to settle with this crap.

[magicalgirlj]

well I like it, it's ok to me

[Dack Ralter]

A bit blah, to be sure. Still picking it up, of course.

[njchobitsfan]

Come to Papa :devil: Watched this streamed on Funi's site and dug it very much, so it'll be on my shelf.

[Damius]

Will FUNimation Dub the Kusano's First Shopping Trip OVA?
I don't see why not

Just asking, since they did not dub the Vandread OVAs.

This is not the same scenario since in the case of Vandread they would have to recall they VA.

[Ingraman]

The cover's not going to get me to buy a show that I stopped watching after only one episode. I don't recall why I stopped. I'm not remembering any particular dislikes about it, so maybe there were just a few other shows that I felt were more worth my time (It's not like I try to watch several series at once).

[russ869]

Very typical of the badly drawn breasts I've come to expect from the Sekirei anime.

[Glorian]

It's a fairly bland cover, IMO. I really don't know much about the show anyway, and this isn't making me want to check it out.

[dragonrider_cody]

It's a fairly bland cover, IMO. I really don't know much about the show anyway, and this isn't making me want to check it out.

Great minds think alike! I had zero to no interest in this show and the cover does not help things.

[WTK]

Comparing to what Madman Ent. (R4) will be doing...

http://www.madman.com.au/images/slicks/bigones/mmb868wp.jpg

[JacksonHoltorp]

I'm sure some people will say the Madman cover is "too busy" but I personally think it looks much better.

A nice cover is a bonus but it's not a deal-breaker for me for deciding whether or not I want to buy something.

[MitchH]

What, the designer decided to take a marginally serviceable Japanese cover & cut it to shreds, chop the better-looking half of the artwork out of the image, and fill in the void by zooming in on a pair of poorly-drawn breasts & an abstracted background? Now, mind you, I had no real interest in the show to begin with, but at least he isn't trying to talk me into anything here.

My "FUNimation's design department is deliberately sabotaging sales" theory gets another supporting example for the exhibit.

[Damius]

I'm sure some people will say the Madman cover is "too busy" but I personally think it looks much better.

A nice cover is a bonus but it's not a deal-breaker for me for deciding whether or not I want to buy something.

Yeah, I prefer the Madman version, even if it may be a little busy.

[Richard J.]

Will FUNimation Dub the Kusano's First Shopping Trip OVA?
I don't see why not

Just asking, since they did not dub the Vandread OVAs.

This is not the same scenario since in the case of Vandread they would have to recall they VA.The most likely scenario is that Funimation will dub the OVA. The case of the Vandread OVAs is distinguished given that it used a dub produced in LA rather than Texas, thus it was not a case of VAs Funi could easily reassmble. Typically Funimation dubs everything that's animated and part of the series, including OVAs.

However, there is the issue of how the Japanese recorded the audio. I've been told that some OVAs, especially the shorter ones, don't have separate tracks for dialogue and SFX/BGM. (Of course, that information was given as a reason why another company didn't dub an OVA so perhaps, in hindsight, I shouldn't just believe it.)

And personally, I like the cover. It's simple but eye-catching.

[BalmungHHQ]

Got this today

Thincase covers are taken from the R2's

Thincase1 cover: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/44/ANSB-3675.jpg (R2 vol.3)
Thincase1 reverse: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/42/ANSB-3673.jpg (R2 vol.2)
Thincase2 cover: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/46/ANSB-3677.jpg (R2 vol.4)
Thincase2 reverse: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/48/ANSB-3679.jpg (R2 vol.5)

[Damius]

Got this today

Thinpack covers are taken from the R2's

Thinpack1 cover: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/44/ANSB-3675.jpg
Thinpack1 reverse: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/42/ANSB-3673.jpg
Thinpack2 cover: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/46/ANSB-3677.jpg
Thinpack2 reverse: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/48/ANSB-3679.jpg

Nice, thanks for the pics!

[BalmungHHQ]

Not only does the description on the back of the DVD have a ton of boob references, but they're all highlighted in reddish-pink to make it more obvious... :sd:
"where hot girls with super powers settle their differences chest-to chest"
"Musubi fell into his life crushing his face with her ginormous cleavage"
"hidden powers lurking beneath her ample assets"
"supernatural slugfest where voluptuous vixens take turns beating eachothers clothes off"
"makes this utterly-fullfilling the series the breast action-harem anime of all time!"
It's like, jeez FUNi, we get it, the show has boobs and fanservice... :sd:

Oh well, that's marketing I guess :rolleyes:

[Stratosblitz]

Surprised to see this arrived in the mail already from TRSI. Looking forward to watching the entirety of the dub.

And yes, they did go wild with the back cover copy. I found myself both rolling my eyes at it AND finding it entertainingly brazen.

[Hayate Kurogane]

Not only does the description on the back of the DVD have a ton of boob references, but they're all highlighted in reddish-pink to make it more obvious... :sd:
"where hot girls with super powers settle their differences chest-to chest"
"Musubi fell into his life crushing his face with her ginormous cleavage"
"hidden powers lurking beneath her ample assets"
"supernatural slugfest where voluptuous vixens take turns beating eachothers clothes off"
"makes this utterly-fullfilling the series the breast action-harem anime of all time!"
It's like, jeez FUNi, we get it, the show has boobs and fanservice... :sd:

Oh well, that's marketing I guess :rolleyes:

At least they're not underage!

[Fencedude]

At least they're not underage!

...that might depend on your definition of "underage"...

[james_039]

If anyone's watched the first episode, can you check if the lower third is cropped off the way it was in their dubbed stream? They couldn't remove the credits here, so they just slapped a big black bar on top of them instead, and I'm somehow hoping it hasn't made it to the DVD.

[BalmungHHQ]

If anyone's watched the first episode, can you check if the lower third is cropped off the way it was in their dubbed stream? They couldn't remove the credits here, so they just slapped a big black bar on top of them instead, and I'm somehow hoping it hasn't made it to the DVD.
It's the same as on the stream

[james_039]

It's the same as on the stream

:cry:

I give up, These guys really don't care if they slice and dice essential video so long as the Japanese credits are fully removed.

[BalmungHHQ]

It's the same as on the stream

:cry:

I give up, These guys really don't care if they slice and dice essential video so long as the Japanese credits are fully removed.
Personally, I didn't think it was a problem... you really don't miss anything with what they did here... it was just a tiny space at the bottom of the screen.
But that's just how I feel...

[Hayate Kurogane]

If anyone's watched the first episode, can you check if the lower third is cropped off the way it was in their dubbed stream? They couldn't remove the credits here, so they just slapped a big black bar on top of them instead, and I'm somehow hoping it hasn't made it to the DVD.
It's the same as on the stream

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE

There's that caps lock key again. Hmm. Let's try one more time...

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE

Well, that's weird. Bold tags, too. This seems to happen to my posts when FUNimation dicks around with one of their releases. Huh.

[Kouji Tamino]

It's the same as on the stream

:cry:

I give up, These guys really don't care if they slice and dice essential video so long as the Japanese credits are fully removed.

...Again, are people really expecting the credits to magically be 'fixed' at the last minute? I wouldn't expect to see a change until early next year, once we're past releases that weren't already being worked on.

[Damius]

It's the same as on the stream

:cry:

I give up, These guys really don't care if they slice and dice essential video so long as the Japanese credits are fully removed.

Wait, what??? They NEVER LEARN...

[BalmungHHQ]

This really isn't that big of a deal... It's nothing compared to what happened with Bride is a Mermaid and Birdy

But regardless, while I personally think it's not that bad... here's a comparison:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/Balmung_HHQ/sekireicompare.jpg
(Note this is only for episode 1, since that episode didn't have the regular ending credits)

And I also noticed on the DVD, the credits don't scroll like they do on the stream (pictured above). But it's pretty much the same thing.

[WTK]

Got this today

Thincase covers are taken from the R2's

Thincase1 cover: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/44/ANSB-3675.jpg (R2 vol.3)
Thincase1 reverse: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/42/ANSB-3673.jpg (R2 vol.2)
Thincase2 cover: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/46/ANSB-3677.jpg (R2 vol.4)
Thincase2 reverse: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/48/ANSB-3679.jpg (R2 vol.5)
It works for me. More artwork is always good.
Not only does the description on the back of the DVD have a ton of boob references, but they're all highlighted in reddish-pink to make it more obvious... :sd:
"where hot girls with super powers settle their differences chest-to chest"
"Musubi fell into his life crushing his face with her ginormous cleavage"
"hidden powers lurking beneath her ample assets"
"supernatural slugfest where voluptuous vixens take turns beating eachothers clothes off"
"makes this utterly-fullfilling the series the breast action-harem anime of all time!"
It's like, jeez FUNi, we get it, the show has boobs and fanservice... :sd:

Oh well, that's marketing I guess :rolleyes:
I guess that's their way of promoting boobs/fanservice type of series. Girls Bravo got a different type of treatment.

[james_039]

This really isn't that big of a deal... It's nothing compared to what happened with Bride is a Mermaid and Birdy

But regardless, while I personally think it's not that bad... here's a comparison:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/Balmung_HHQ/sekireicompare.jpg
(Note this is only for episode 1, since that episode didn't have the regular ending credits)

And I also noticed on the DVD, the credits don't scroll like they do on the stream (pictured above). But it's pretty much the same thing.


B-But, the clouds!! The CLOUDS!!

Whatever, actually I find it kinda funny we're getting weekly cases of minor screw ups based on Funimation's long-time credit cutting practice. It's actually rather effective at driving home the point of why they shouldn't be doing it.

[MelancholicMariya]

I'm actually curious as to why this is suddenly happening.

Although right now there has only been three cases of it they're all in a small timeframe. But to be quite honest this is probably the best handled case.

[Rhodes]

I'm actually curious as to why this is suddenly happening.

Although right now there has only been three cases of it they're all in a small timeframe. But to be quite honest this is probably the best handled case.

ummm this is the best? obviously they recently hired someone who doesnt like to see foreign looking squiggly lines on screen in charge of producing the dvds with the target audience being middle america. dont need to cater to the fans cause they'd buy it regardless.

[akcoll99]

Got this today

Thincase covers are taken from the R2's

Thincase1 cover: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/44/ANSB-3675.jpg (R2 vol.3)
Thincase1 reverse: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/42/ANSB-3673.jpg (R2 vol.2)
Thincase2 cover: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/46/ANSB-3677.jpg (R2 vol.4)
Thincase2 reverse: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/48/ANSB-3679.jpg (R2 vol.5)

Those look great. I can't wait for my set to come in the mail...

[einhorn303]

To anyone saying something like "But it's just clouds!", my response is this:

http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww278/einhorn303/koyaanisqatsicloudsfunimation.jpg

And if says, "But Koyaanisqatsi is art and Sekirei is just some mindless trash!," well, I prefer that the companies releasing my anime treat it with a bit more respect, as art and not mindless trash.

[Junker Woland]

If the DVD is basically the same as the dub stream on Funi's site, then it really is more than clouds, since what gets cropped is the last 90 seconds of episode--the portion with the two floating in the clouds is just the very end of that sequence.

Also (I posted (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showpost.php?p=1859635&postcount=101) something similar in the R1 Forum), but I'm curious how the last episode made-out, since it also forgoes the ending sequence in favor of credits scrolling across the bottom of the screen?

[Zhemos]

If the DVD is basically the same as the dub stream on Funi's site, then it really is more than clouds, since what gets cropped is the last 90 seconds of episode--the portion with the two floating in the clouds is just the very end of that sequence.

Also (I posted (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showpost.php?p=1859635&postcount=101) something similar in the R1 Forum), but I'm curious how the last episode made-out, since it also forgoes the ending sequence in favor of credits scrolling across the bottom of the screen?

Just checked the last episode, and yep, black bar down at the bottom showing their piece of shit english credits. Funi strikes again, sigh..... I give up.

[Zhemos]

You know, I'm starting to think they do this BS to discourage reverse importation.

It just seems like something the dumbass Japanese would approve.

[MelancholicMariya]

I'm actually curious as to why this is suddenly happening.

Although right now there has only been three cases of it they're all in a small timeframe. But to be quite honest this is probably the best handled case.

ummm this is the best? obviously they recently hired someone who doesnt like to see foreign looking squiggly lines on screen in charge of producing the dvds with the target audience being middle america. dont need to cater to the fans cause they'd buy it regardless.

I take it you're a fan of just squishing the entire animation to the side and just scroll credits beside it?

[Suwako Moriya]

You know, I'm starting to think they do this BS to discourage reverse importation.

It just seems like something the dumbass Japanese would approve.

Somehow I highly doubt that. Simply because, if that were really the case, Funimation and Nozomi would be required to utilize the awesome strategy as well.

Wait, let me guess. It only happens to Funi because they release more anime than other companies. Or it only happens to Funi because their series include English dubs. Or <insert other reason that applies to Funi more than anyone else>.


I think Funi's actions were more based on the idea of hoping that people wouldn't care or heck even notice that an issue in question came up. However it's clear that people do notice and they do care. Not everyone, but some.

[BalmungHHQ]

To anyone saying something like "But it's just clouds!", my response is this:

http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww278/einhorn303/koyaanisqatsicloudsfunimation.jpg

And if says, "But Koyaanisqatsi is art and Sekirei is just some mindless trash!," well, I prefer that the companies releasing my anime treat it with a bit more respect, as art and not mindless trash.
Faulty argument.
Koyaanisgatsi never had credits on-screen there in the first place.

Sekirei did, with kanji credits already partially blocking the screen. What FUNi did was just block it more-so in order to replicate the credits in the same place as the Japanese version. This is most certainly not treating the title like "mindless trash", it's their attempt to replicate the same feeling as the Japanese version but in English by putting credits into the same place to the best of their ability. Although a method you all find faulted, from their perspective they were very much treating it with respect. So don't act like they're screwing you over and don't care, it's a conflict of priority.

What I think everyone who's getting into hissy fits about this wants, is for them to forget about doing this if there's no creditless version, and just throw credits on at the end of the episode.
Yeah, that's fine and dandy. Lance already said he'll work on making sure things like this won't happen in the future since you've all made your point before thanks to conversations earlier regarding titles in a much worse predicament than this. Obviously things already complete before then such Sekirei aren't effected, but in all honestly it's not as major an issue as the other things anyway.

So really, what's left to do? Why complain so much?
Whatever happened to enjoying things?

The episodes 1 and 12 credit "issues" aside, this is a wonderful release. I love the cover art and thincase artwork. The marketing for it is over the top, but a bit amusing. We got the uncut DVD footage, the video and audio quality are all great, a very well done English dub produced as well. Any fan of the show should enjoy this.

And yet those 90 seconds in two episodes are apparently enough to "ruin" this whole thing?
If I were asked this, I'd say it certainly is not.

But I'm not you. It's just that from my personal perspective, everyone has gotten way too extreme and angsty about all of this.

tl;dr: [/rant etc.]

[Betenoire]

I'm actually curious as to why this is suddenly happening.

Although right now there has only been three cases of it they're all in a small timeframe. But to be quite honest this is probably the best handled case.

ummm this is the best? obviously they recently hired someone who doesnt like to see foreign looking squiggly lines on screen in charge of producing the dvds with the target audience being middle america. dont need to cater to the fans cause they'd buy it regardless.

I take it you're a fan of just squishing the entire animation to the side and just scroll credits beside it?

Or the extremest position of running the end how you have it and it was provided and if not clean running FUNi's credits on a black screen right after the end.

I know, radical concept and in some states it is the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater but there is an option-as disturbing as it might be-for not fucking up content just to make sure people know who produced the English version. They might have forgotten since they either skipped or cursed out the front loaded trailers whose work they are watching.

Though the practice of using the black screen at the end rather than editing video is one of the signs Delaware looks at when declaring someone a witch.

[MelancholicMariya]

I'm actually curious as to why this is suddenly happening.

Although right now there has only been three cases of it they're all in a small timeframe. But to be quite honest this is probably the best handled case.

ummm this is the best? obviously they recently hired someone who doesnt like to see foreign looking squiggly lines on screen in charge of producing the dvds with the target audience being middle america. dont need to cater to the fans cause they'd buy it regardless.

I take it you're a fan of just squishing the entire animation to the side and just scroll credits beside it?

Or the extremest position of running the end how you have it and it was provided and if not clean running FUNi's credits on a black screen right after the end.

I know, radical concept and in some states it is the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater but there is an option-as disturbing as it might be-for not fucking up content just to make sure people know who produced the English version. They might have forgotten since they either skipped or cursed out the front loaded trailers whose work they are watching.

Though the practice of using the black screen at the end rather than editing video is one of the signs Delaware looks at when declaring someone a witch.

If you're aiming this at me, I was saying this case is at least handled better than the resized animation and scrolling text. Whereas he/she implied the Birdy method was handled better.

Though I believe the credits on a black screen right after the end of the episode would be a better method.

[Rhodes]

If you're aiming this at me, I was saying this case is at least handled better than the resized animation and scrolling text. Whereas he/she implied the Birdy method was handled better.

Though I believe the credits on a black screen right after the end of the episode would be a better method.

see the problem is your limiting yourself to the 3 recent cluster f*ck that funi just did...

why not go back and look at their previous shows with jp text or look to other companies and see how they handled it. it's not like they exist in a vacuum where they cant look and see the work of other companies. heck they could of done it the way adv did it with rahxephon...

if they absolutely need to destroy all evidence of jp/foreign/asian credit text on screen while putting in english credits and they did not have a clean version to work with... if i recall correctly adv blurred out the jp text and put english text on top of or next to the blurred out text in rahxephon. but of course that would of cost a lot more to do since they had to do that for each frame of the video... much cheaper to have a black bar take up 1/5? of the screen for the duration of the credits.

i would prefer the english credits after the show ends on a black screen... paged not rolling credits. but again it seems funi is having an adverse reaction to jp credit text being displayed for the show on dvd. what they do on a stream/dl/vod runs i could care less... but to port that crap over to the physical media?

this was a show i was planning to buy one day... now screw em. maybe when the bd version is out they will fix this and learn not to touch the original video.

[Fencedude]

Faulty argument.
Koyaanisgatsi never had credits on-screen there in the first place.

Sekirei did, with kanji credits already partially blocking the screen. What FUNi did was just block it more-so in order to replicate the credits in the same place as the Japanese version. This is most certainly not treating the title like "mindless trash", it's their attempt to replicate the same feeling as the Japanese version but in English by putting credits into the same place to the best of their ability. Although a method you all find faulted, from their perspective they were very much treating it with respect. So don't act like they're screwing you over and don't care, it's a conflict of priority.

They failed.

Period.

Seriously, why should they need to replicate the credits? If they have a clean version and can put English credits in, scrolling the same way as the Japanese credits, then great, go for it. But if they don't, its not freaking acceptable to slap a black bar over a fifth of the screen. Sure, the stuff behind the credits was partially blocked...but now its entirely blocked. How is this a good thing?

I really fail to see why this is even an argument. Have you ever seen anyone object to a release because it has kanji credits in the OP/ED and then an english credit scroll later? Of course not, because that would be silly.

And the most ridiculous part is is that we're asking them to do something that will save them time and money. However they try to replicate the credits, I can guarantee that making a set of white scrolling on black credits is a heck of a lot easier.

Is it really wrong to want unmolested video? Isn't that the absolute least we should be able to expect now?

[MelancholicMariya]

If you're aiming this at me, I was saying this case is at least handled better than the resized animation and scrolling text. Whereas he/she implied the Birdy method was handled better.

Though I believe the credits on a black screen right after the end of the episode would be a better method.

see the problem is your limiting yourself to the 3 recent cluster f*ck that funi just did...

why not go back and look at their previous shows with jp text or look to other companies and see how they handled it. it's not like they exist in a vacuum where they cant look and see the work of other companies. heck they could of done it the way adv did it with rahxephon...

if they absolutely need to destroy all evidence of jp/foreign/asian credit text on screen while putting in english credits and they did not have a clean version to work with... if i recall correctly adv blurred out the jp text and put english text on top of or next to the blurred out text in rahxephon. but of course that would of cost a lot more to do since they had to do that for each frame of the video... much cheaper to have a black bar take up 1/5? of the screen for the duration of the credits.

i would prefer the english credits after the show ends on a black screen... paged not rolling credits. but again it seems funi is having an adverse reaction to jp credit text being displayed for the show on dvd. what they do on a stream/dl/vod runs i could care less... but to port that crap over to the physical media?

this was a show i was planning to buy one day... now screw em. maybe when the bd version is out they will fix this and learn not to touch the original video.

Yeah I already know all of this stuff. You're missing the point of what I was saying in the first place. I said out of the 3 messed up ones, forget all of the ones with English credits replacing Japanese for a moment, this one was handled the best.

[Betenoire]

Yeah I already know all of this stuff. You're missing the point of what I was saying in the first place. I said out of the 3 messed up ones, forget all of the ones with English credits replacing Japanese for a moment, this one was handled the best.

That's kind of like saying of all Ed Wood's films Plan 9 From Outer Space is his best though. :catgirl:

I do wonder what other treats we still have in store for titles in production before FUNi's policy change took effect.

[MelancholicMariya]

Yeah I already know all of this stuff. You're missing the point of what I was saying in the first place. I said out of the 3 messed up ones, forget all of the ones with English credits replacing Japanese for a moment, this one was handled the best.

That's kind of like saying of all Ed Wood's films Plan 9 From Outer Space is his best though. :catgirl:

I do wonder what other treats we still have in store for titles in production before FUNi's policy change took effect.

That's exactly my point. It's still bad but it was handled the best out of the few.

[Damius]

You know, I'm starting to think they do this BS to discourage reverse importation.

It just seems like something the dumbass Japanese would approve.

Why only Funimation doing it then?

[Junker Woland]

Just checked the last episode, and yep, black bar down at the bottom showing their piece of shit english credits. Funi strikes again, sigh..... I give up.
Thanks for the confirmation, Zhemos.

Stuff like this makes me glad I generally avoid pre-ordering shows that are around a month-out from release, since otherwise, I would have nabbed Sekirei, during the last Funi sale at TSRI.

Much as I dislike Funi's fiddling with ending sequences, I find it amazing, for a company in the business of producing video, that they find it acceptable to unnecessarily compromise a show's visuals by cropping-out a nice chunk of the screen.

Oh well, I guess there's always some hope they'll fix the issue in a subsequent release...

[Damius]

Just checked the last episode, and yep, black bar down at the bottom showing their piece of shit english credits. Funi strikes again, sigh..... I give up.
Thanks for the confirmation, Zhemos.

Stuff like this makes me glad I generally avoid pre-ordering shows that are around a month-out from release, since otherwise, I would have nabbed Sekirei, during the last Funi sale at TSRI.

Much as I dislike Funi's fiddling with ending sequences, I find it amazing, for a company in the business of producing video, that they find it acceptable to unnecessarily compromise a show's visuals by cropping-out a nice chunk of the screen.

Oh well, I guess there's always some hope they'll fix the issue in a subsequent release...

I would not bet on that unfortunatelly. But how I would be happy for it to be fixed for the BD version if we have one someday...

[Hayate Kurogane]

...But I'm not you. It's just that from my personal perspective, everyone has gotten way too extreme and angsty about all of this.

Speaking for myself, if the choice is between A) coming across as too extreme and angsty about such unnecessary modifications in this day and age in order to ensure that it's properly conveyed that this is an issue that does matter to some folks and thus falling into a catch-all "everyone" group that others generalize as complaining too much and being unable to enjoy things as some sort of odd corollary or tacked-on comment to an otherwise largely sensible post, and B) saying it's okay and therefore giving tacit approval for such changes to continue...well, then, I'm okay with being part of "everyone.".

As Fence says, I'm not even sure how this is an argument. I've never seen anyone arguing for overlays, or modified video, or cropping, or hardsubs, or any other such unnecessary modifications that should've been done away with a decade ago, nor can I conceive of why someone would argue for such things. I'm also not entirely sure what motivates the whole "too extreme" line of thought that some folks come up with when things like this happen. It clearly doesn't affect some folks, and more power to them, I guess, but there doesn't seem to be anything productive or worthwhile in Person A who doesn't care about something trying to convince Person B that he also shouldn't care, or should calm down, especially when Person A gains essentially nothing from it.

I mean, what, are folks worried that we're being too mean to FUNimation? Occasionally someone gets really creative and says something like, "if you're all too crazy about it, they just won't listen and won't make any changes," which is nonsense, especially in a niche industry where the walls between studios and fans are fairly thin if not outright porous; it's always in a company's best interests to take criticisms into account, even if they're cursing our names aloud for being immature or rude while offering said criticisms. What is real is that if no one says anything, nothing changes.

[kaiza]

Damn, I should have pre ordered a while ago, didn't think it would matter since it's release date was the 23rd. But I'll be doing it anyway within the next couple days.

[einhorn303]

Faulty argument.
Koyaanisgatsi never had credits on-screen there in the first place.

Sekirei did, with kanji credits already partially blocking the screen. What FUNi did was just block it more-so in order to replicate the credits in the same place as the Japanese version. This is most certainly not treating the title like "mindless trash", it's their attempt to replicate the same feeling as the Japanese version but in English by putting credits into the same place to the best of their ability. Although a method you all find faulted, from their perspective they were very much treating it with respect. So don't act like they're screwing you over and don't care, it's a conflict of priority.

...[]...

And yet those 90 seconds in two episodes are apparently enough to "ruin" this whole thing?
If I were asked this, I'd say it certainly is not.

But I'm not you. It's just that from my personal perspective, everyone has gotten way too extreme and angsty about all of this.


My point isn't regarding the credits, but that "a large black bar covering up portions of clouds can ruin a shot's composition and beauty.

Regarding "runining": They cut an insert song out of my favorite anime ever. An insert song that completely made the scene's entire atmosphere. And I still bought it and was happy. It's not "ruined." But still, if such things happen to shows I care about, there's a very bitter aftertaste of dissatisfaction that goes alongside the enjoyment. *

On shows that I deeply care about, I'd probably buy them no matter what. But for shows I'm on-the-fence about, this sort of stuff forcefully pushes me off the fence and into the yard of "not buying."

* And regarding Funi's English dub for that show, I actively forced myself to watch it and tried to enjoy it, but just couldn't keep watching it. And I actively tried to enjoy it a second time months later, but it was too painful. Funi's dub was actively breaking the shows continuity and trivializing it.

[njchobitsfan]

Just received in the mail today and now that I can look at the cover close up all I've got to say is -------DAMN THOSE TORPEDOES!!! :nosebleed:

[BalmungHHQ]

Just received in the mail today and now that I can look at the cover close up all I've got to say is -------DAMN THOSE TORPEDOES!!! :nosebleed:
Just wait until you see the actual show... :nosebleed:

[njchobitsfan]

Just received in the mail today and now that I can look at the cover close up all I've got to say is -------DAMN THOSE TORPEDOES!!! :nosebleed:
Just wait until you see the actual show... :nosebleed:

Actually, I did and yeah, the torpedoes sunk my battleship. ;)

[nagaraventeel]

If this show isn't about boobs, I'm highly disappointed. This cover most definately doesn't tell a story. I'll think I'll pass.

[Fencedude]

If this show isn't about boobs, I'm highly disappointed. This cover most definately doesn't tell a story. I'll think I'll pass.

Huh? That makes no sense.

Anyway, the show most certainly prominently features boobs, but has a surprisingly strong story and quite likable characters.

The second season is even better in those respects, but the first season is no slouch.

[doubleO7]

Regarding "runining": They cut an insert song out of my favorite anime ever. An insert song that completely made the scene's entire atmosphere. And I still bought it and was happy. It's not "ruined." But still, if such things happen to shows I care about, there's a very bitter aftertaste of dissatisfaction that goes alongside the enjoyment. *

...[snip]...

* And regarding Funi's English dub for that show, I actively forced myself to watch it and tried to enjoy it, but just couldn't keep watching it. And I actively tried to enjoy it a second time months later, but it was too painful. Funi's dub was actively breaking the shows continuity and trivializing it.

What show are you referring to?

[einhorn303]

Regarding "runining": They cut an insert song out of my favorite anime ever. An insert song that completely made the scene's entire atmosphere. And I still bought it and was happy. It's not "ruined." But still, if such things happen to shows I care about, there's a very bitter aftertaste of dissatisfaction that goes alongside the enjoyment. *

...[snip]...

* And regarding Funi's English dub for that show, I actively forced myself to watch it and tried to enjoy it, but just couldn't keep watching it. And I actively tried to enjoy it a second time months later, but it was too painful. Funi's dub was actively breaking the shows continuity and trivializing it.

What show are you referring to?

Strike Witches (and Lili Marleen).

[akcoll99]

You know, I'm starting to think they do this BS to discourage reverse importation.

It just seems like something the dumbass Japanese would approve.

Why only Funimation doing it then?

I figure they do it so they can fit in the English credits for when they run the shows on the Funimation Channel, but could be wrong on that one...

[james_039]

Having just gotten this, I want to take the opportunity to praise FUNimation for the items which they really did get right on this set.

1. The video quality is superb (yes, for 480i, but still, it's a huge credit to Funimation finally learning how to encode)

2. The Japanese episode titles are properly retained, with softsub translations.

3. The unique per episode endings (different man-versions of the numerous Sekirei) appear to be retained (will have to finish watching to make sure they didn't screw up later on).

So despite the issue on the black bar cover up and Japanese/Kanji list for the cast being removed, Funimation *is* improving, and I hope if a blu-ray of Sekirei comes out (and there are some nice 720p masters available), that we can get to 100% perfection.

[BalmungHHQ]

3. The unique per episode endings (different man-versions of the numerous Sekirei) appear to be retained (will have to finish watching to make sure they didn't screw up later on).
Yes, they are all retained. I looked forward to seeing who got to be disturbingly manly in each ending theme as I watched through the series. :sdsmiley: