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WTK
12-20-2010, 04:22 PM
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Eden of the East Movie 1: King of Eden (Blu-ray / DVD Comb Pack) due out on 4/26/11 (Was 3/22/11). | Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZZXXAfXHcg)
Special Features: Air Communication Prequel Movie (TV Series Summary), Movie 1 News Flash, Movie 1 Preview, TV Spots, Trailers.

Orihimes_Boyfriend
12-20-2010, 04:24 PM
I like it. Looks like it will take place in New York.

hikaru004
12-20-2010, 04:29 PM
Characters not facing me is slightly off putting but I'm buying this anyways.

Hoped that the TV series compilation movie was coming out before the sequel. Oh well.

doubleO7
12-20-2010, 04:32 PM
I like it. I'll definitely be buying this.

Kouji Tamino
12-20-2010, 04:41 PM
I like. Very pretty. :)

RyGuySays
12-20-2010, 04:45 PM
Brilliant cover art, blows away what the Japanese got.

Jackle
12-20-2010, 04:48 PM
It's really gorgeous. Can't wait to get it.

MelancholicMariya
12-20-2010, 04:50 PM
Very nice. Kind of looks like the sun is setting.

cress2000
12-20-2010, 04:57 PM
Wow, that's hot.

WTK
12-20-2010, 05:00 PM
As noted in the DVD thread, the artwork simply works. I will definitely be getting this.

bearcounty
12-20-2010, 06:29 PM
As noted in the DVD thread, the artwork simply works. I will definitely be getting this.
Ditto. I'm glad FUNi isn't making us wait for this film.

ExcelGenerations
12-20-2010, 06:34 PM
Looks damn good!

Damius
12-20-2010, 07:50 PM
I like it, can't wait to buy it!

EnigmaticWarrior
12-20-2010, 09:10 PM
Loving the shot of Akira and Saki in New York City. :bigsmile: I'll definitely order this during the next Right Stuf FUNi sale.

einhorn303
12-20-2010, 10:19 PM
I also like it much more than the Japanese cover.

EyeOfPain
12-21-2010, 02:32 AM
Loving the shot of Akira and Saki in New York City. :bigsmile: I'll definitely order this during the next Right Stuf FUNi sale.

Same. And yes, this film takes place in America.

Been waiting to see this since the series ended its run on noitaminA, though there's still Movie 2 after this.

WTK
01-06-2011, 11:34 AM
via TRSI (http://www.rightstuf.com/rssite/main/news/individual/?ForumThreadName=FT0000001992&Offset=0&ReturnTo=Archive)
New Gift With Purchase Offers: Hero Tales, Rosario+Vampire Bundle, Eden of the East Movie 1
Posted on: Thursday, January 6, 2011

While supplies last, a number of upcoming FUNimation titles are now available with pre-order bonuses, so place your orders today! (As with our gift with pre-order deals, if you already placed your order for the items involved, you are already on the list to receive the extra gift item!) - Pre-order the Eden of the East Movie 1: King of Eden DVD (http://www.rightstuf.com/i/fun08842?utm_source=RightStuf.com&utm_medium=newspage&utm_campaign=gennews) or Blu-ray (http://www.rightstuf.com/i/fun08843?utm_source=RightStuf.com&utm_medium=newspage&utm_campaign=gennews) and also receive a series keychain. Eden of the East: King of Eden is scheduled for release March 22, 2011. Customers who have already pre-ordered the DVD or Blu-ray will automatically receive the keychain.

Damius
01-06-2011, 12:09 PM
I wonder how look that keychain... Anyway, I won't probably be able to have it since I was thinking about buying the movie later on. (Don't want to buy for 150$ at this time)

Devdan
01-06-2011, 12:29 PM
It is nice, I'm glad they used that image, but are we not getting Air Communication? I thought it was licensed. I haven't seen the movies yet, I don't know if that one is pointless or not, but it seems like it should've come out first.

WTK
01-06-2011, 12:54 PM
It is nice, I'm glad they used that image, but are we not getting Air Communication? I thought it was licensed. I haven't seen the movies yet, I don't know if that one is pointless or not, but it seems like it should've come out first.
It's licensed. I would assume that they would release it separately from the next movie.

Talyn
01-07-2011, 09:39 AM
It is nice, I'm glad they used that image, but are we not getting Air Communication? I thought it was licensed. I haven't seen the movies yet, I don't know if that one is pointless or not, but it seems like it should've come out first.
It's licensed. I would assume that they would release it separately from the next movie.

It's a little too bad we can't get all 3 movies as a set at one time...perhaps eventually, but I love that cover! finished watch the series the other night and was blown the hell away by it! Great series! :cool:

bluesilo
01-07-2011, 10:26 AM
Originally Posted by Devdan http://www.mania.com/aodvb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1883971#post1883971)
It is nice, I'm glad they used that image, but are we not getting Air Communication? I thought it was licensed. I haven't seen the movies yet, I don't know if that one is pointless or not, but it seems like it should've come out first.


The third movie from my understanding is just a recap film.

MelancholicMariya
01-07-2011, 11:01 AM
Originally Posted by Devdan http://www.mania.com/aodvb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1883971#post1883971)
It is nice, I'm glad they used that image, but are we not getting Air Communication? I thought it was licensed. I haven't seen the movies yet, I don't know if that one is pointless or not, but it seems like it should've come out first.


The third movie from my understanding is just a recap film.

Air Communication came out first so it won't recap King of Eden and Paradise Lost. It's also only available in Japan with King of Eden if you buy the Limited Edition.

Devdan
01-07-2011, 04:21 PM
Ah, the ANN description made it sound like it was an extended version of the last episode. If it's just a recap, I can live without.

akcoll99
01-07-2011, 11:11 PM
It's a little too bad we can't get all 3 movies as a set at one time...

Yeah, I was kind of hoping we'd get a box set for the movies too, but that's okay. I've been dying to see the continuation of the show since finishing it just before Xmas.

WTK
01-07-2011, 11:32 PM
Old release date: 3/22/11
New release date: 4/26/11

WTK
01-07-2011, 11:34 PM
via TRSI (http://www.rightstuf.com/rssite/main/news/individual/?ForumThreadName=FT0000001992&Offset=0&ReturnTo=Archive)
New Gift With Purchase Offers: Hero Tales, Rosario+Vampire Bundle, Eden of the East Movie 1
Posted on: Thursday, January 6, 2011

While supplies last, a number of upcoming FUNimation titles are now available with pre-order bonuses, so place your orders today! (As with our gift with pre-order deals, if you already placed your order for the items involved, you are already on the list to receive the extra gift item!) - Pre-order the Eden of the East Movie 1: King of Eden DVD (http://www.rightstuf.com/i/fun08842?utm_source=RightStuf.com&utm_medium=newspage&utm_campaign=gennews) or Blu-ray (http://www.rightstuf.com/i/fun08843?utm_source=RightStuf.com&utm_medium=newspage&utm_campaign=gennews) and also receive a series keychain. Eden of the East: King of Eden is scheduled for release March 22, 2011. Customers who have already pre-ordered the DVD or Blu-ray will automatically receive the keychain.
http://www.rightstuf.com/cms/action/ItemDescription?ItemDescriptionTypeName=ALTERNATE_ IMAGE_1&ItemName=fun08842&LanguageIsoName=en

WTK
01-08-2011, 08:26 AM
RACS (http://www.animecornerstore.com/edenofeast.html) get their own bonus as well.
Special Offer! Pre-Order your copy of the Eden of the East: King of Eden Movie DVD or BluRay and we will include a free (Size XL) King of Eden T-Shirt, compliments of RACS and Funimation!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eGZF7-BSejg/TSp_FoxXpjI/AAAAAAAAA4o/LCLYxw-TyxM/s1600/Eden%2Bof%2Bthe%2BEast%2BTS%2B-%2B2.jpg

ZenErik
01-08-2011, 08:37 AM
I love that shirt! But I'm a small or extra small. XL would be useless... Perhaps I could give it to one of my short and tiny female friends for amusement...

Regardless, I already pre-ordered from RightStuf.

njchobitsfan
01-08-2011, 09:25 AM
I really like this cover, but I want to get the TV series first before buying this.

Yuriko
01-08-2011, 11:05 AM
Cool t shirt, but I'm sticking with TRSI for this (when the next sale rolls around) as I prefer them. RACS got the better freebie this time though.

~Y

Devdan
01-08-2011, 01:29 PM
That shirt seems pretty alright, too bad it's XL and RACS only...

WTK
01-09-2011, 10:48 PM
Enlarged shot of RACS exclusive added to Post #28 (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showpost.php?p=1884967&postcount=28).

Buckeye
01-10-2011, 07:28 AM
That shirt looks cool. But I will still order from RSI since I don't really wear those kinds of shirts outside cons.

Damius
01-10-2011, 12:03 PM
That shirt seems pretty alright, too bad it's XL and RACS only...

Indeed. I would probably get one otherwise.

Ingraman
01-10-2011, 02:41 PM
via TRSI (http://www.rightstuf.com/rssite/main/news/individual/?ForumThreadName=FT0000001992&Offset=0&ReturnTo=Archive)
New Gift With Purchase Offers: Hero Tales, Rosario+Vampire Bundle, Eden of the East Movie 1
Posted on: Thursday, January 6, 2011- Pre-order the Eden of the East Movie 1: King of Eden DVD (http://www.rightstuf.com/i/fun08842?utm_source=RightStuf.com&utm_medium=newspage&utm_campaign=gennews) or Blu-ray (http://www.rightstuf.com/i/fun08843?utm_source=RightStuf.com&utm_medium=newspage&utm_campaign=gennews) and also receive a series keychain. Eden of the East: King of Eden is scheduled for release March 22, 2011. Customers who have already pre-ordered the DVD or Blu-ray will automatically receive the keychain.

Another keychain!?! I expect that I'll order the BD version when the next TRSI Funi sale runs, but I've already got a Drrr!! keychain coming soon (which I'm not likely to ever use). I don't really need another one, and the EotE keychain looks kinda 'blah' in comparison. The shirt design's not terribly interesting either, so it's not like I'll turn to RACS. I also don't recall the last time that I wore an anime-ish shirt. ^^;

Try harder Funi.

Talyn
01-10-2011, 03:01 PM
The shirt design's not terribly interesting either, so it's not like I'll turn to RACS. I also don't recall the last time that I wore an anime-ish shirt. ^^;

Try harder Funi.


I wear a couple of the Eureka 7 shirts... :sd: but that EotE shirt isn't great, but not bad.... there's a special place reserved for those Lucky Star shirts... ;)

Ingraman
01-10-2011, 11:57 PM
The shirt design's not terribly interesting either, so it's not like I'll turn to RACS. I also don't recall the last time that I wore an anime-ish shirt. ^^;

Try harder Funi.


[...] there's a special place reserved for those Lucky Star shirts... ;)

I forgot about those. I got rid of 'em long long ago...

WTK
01-12-2011, 10:49 PM
Full size 3D cover art added to the first post...

Damius
01-13-2011, 05:49 AM
Full size 3D cover art added to the first post...

I have to say it looks really great in 3D! This will looks probably even better in hands.

WTK
01-14-2011, 06:14 PM
via RACS (http://animecornerstore.blogspot.com/2011/01/funimation-changes-ga-rei-zero-eden-of.html)
Funimation Changes [...] Eden of the East Movie to DVD/BD Combo Sets

Funi just sent over another memo about an hour ago letting us know that they have changed the release format of [...] the Eden of the East Movie.

Instead of the previously announced separate DVD and BD releases, Funi will be combining both versions into DVD/BD combo sets.

So...

Eden of the East Movie 1: King of Eden DVD
Eden of the East Movie 1: King of Eden DVD (BLURAY)

now becomes the:

FN-08843 Eden of the East Movie 1: King of Eden DVD / BLURAY Combo Set (http://www.animecornerstore.com/edenofeast.html)

The price for the new combo sets is the same as for the previous versions, and all existing pre-orders for these will be updated to the new combo set version. No action is required on your part.

mlisette237
01-14-2011, 06:52 PM
via RACS (http://animecornerstore.blogspot.com/2011/01/funimation-changes-ga-rei-zero-eden-of.html)
Funimation Changes [...] Eden of the East Movie to DVD/BD Combo Sets

Funi just sent over another memo about an hour ago letting us know that they have changed the release format of [...] the Eden of the East Movie.

Instead of the previously announced separate DVD and BD releases, Funi will be combining both versions into DVD/BD combo sets.

So...

Eden of the East Movie 1: King of Eden DVD
Eden of the East Movie 1: King of Eden DVD (BLURAY)

now becomes the:

FN-08843 Eden of the East Movie 1: King of Eden DVD / BLURAY Combo Set (http://www.animecornerstore.com/edenofeast.html)

The price for the new combo sets is the same as for the previous versions, and all existing pre-orders for these will be updated to the new combo set version. No action is required on your part.

My only question for this and Ga-Rei-Zero right now is, are they going to be packaged in a BD case or a DVD case? (Dear God, let it be a BD case)

Damius
01-14-2011, 07:15 PM
My only question for this and Ga-Rei-Zero right now is, are they going to be packaged in a BD case or a DVD case? (Dear God, let it be a BD case)

I think there is no doubt it will be in a BD case, since they wanted people to know it is a BD inside.

Kouji Tamino
01-14-2011, 11:15 PM
I'm actually okay with this. In fact, I'm more than okay. This is pretty exciting. We only have one Blu-ray player in the house, the PS3, so if I just feel like casually watching the movie on say, my laptop, or in the bedroom, I'll have a DVD copy at no extra cost.

gundamcero
01-14-2011, 11:16 PM
I really dislike this idea. I have no use for a dvd copy and I'm afraid that they'll mess up the artwork by puting a huge dvd combo banner on it not to mention the fact that it could end up in a dvd case. Hopefully they don't mess it up.

idunno
01-14-2011, 11:19 PM
Meh this is no different than what other studios do with their releases.

cress2000
01-14-2011, 11:32 PM
If this is what it'll take to get more "risky" shows on BD released out here, then so be it. I don't care what case it comes in nor do I care if the cover art requires an additional logo or whatever.

joelgundam01
01-15-2011, 12:01 PM
I'm actually okay with this. In fact, I'm more than okay. This is pretty exciting. We only have one Blu-ray player in the house, the PS3, so if I just feel like casually watching the movie on say, my laptop, or in the bedroom, I'll have a DVD copy at no extra cost.

I'm in the same boat as you and like this idea.

ZenErik
01-15-2011, 12:45 PM
Also useful because a lot of my anime watching friends do not have Blu Ray players. If this trend continues, I may actually be able to bring newer purchases over friends' places to watch. :P

hikaru004
01-15-2011, 05:25 PM
Meh this is no different than what other studios do with their releases.

Oh it's different. You don't see too many combo packs outside of children's titles.

The question now is which size case are we getting. BD or DVD?

hikaru004
01-15-2011, 05:27 PM
My only question for this and Ga-Rei-Zero right now is, are they going to be packaged in a BD case or a DVD case? (Dear God, let it be a BD case)

I think there is no doubt it will be in a BD case, since they wanted people to know it is a BD inside.

They have only to put a banner on the top to say that it's a DVD/BD combo. (Now more of the artwork gets obscured. Oh joy!) The pack size now prob depends on what the stores wants. I hope that it's BD.

Daniel_Perales
01-15-2011, 07:59 PM
If this is what it'll take to get more "risky" shows on BD released out here, then so be it. I don't care what case it comes in nor do I care if the cover art requires an additional logo or whatever.


I second this!;)



Danny

Damius
01-15-2011, 08:04 PM
My only question for this and Ga-Rei-Zero right now is, are they going to be packaged in a BD case or a DVD case? (Dear God, let it be a BD case)

I think there is no doubt it will be in a BD case, since they wanted people to know it is a BD inside.

They have only to put a banner on the top to say that it's a DVD/BD combo. (Now more of the artwork gets obscured. Oh joy!) The pack size now prob depends on what the stores wants. I hope that it's BD.

Probably, but I would prefer a BD case... What are doing the other companies?

RyGuySays
01-16-2011, 12:24 PM
You guys are seriously debating this? It'll be a blu-ray case, look at all of the Hollywood studios, they all are packing a DVD copy of the film with the Blu-ray disks, in the Blu-ray cases.

They are trying to migrate people towards Blu-ray discs not keep them holding on to DVDs.

Hayate Kurogane
01-17-2011, 09:01 AM
You guys are seriously debating this? It'll be a blu-ray case, look at all of the Hollywood studios, they all are packing a DVD copy of the film with the Blu-ray disks, in the Blu-ray cases.

They are trying to migrate people towards Blu-ray discs not keep them holding on to DVDs.

I'd love to know, though, what the thought process was behind the Beauty and the Beast Diamond Edition release. Dual releases, one in a DVD-size case and one in a Blu-ray-size case...but both were combo sets, including Blu-rays and a DVD copy. I would assume it was another experiment to gently nudge (i.e., take advantage of ignorance to coerce) DVD buyers into accepting the Blu-ray format, but it sure comes across as ridiculous.

That being said, given that Hollywood has set the tone for retailers (primarily B&M retailers, since that's where a significant amount of packaging influence originates) in regards to Blu-ray/DVD combo packs, there's a pretty good chance it'll end up in Blu-ray-size cases. That being said, there may be different motivations in play here (sure, Hollywood is making a big Blu-ray push, but how much does FUNimation care?), and there's nothing stopping FUNi from sticking the discs inside DVD-size cases other than trying to avoid the items being stocked on shelves in the DVD section in stores (the ones carrying the releases, anyway).

sisterray
01-17-2011, 12:07 PM
I love the cover, don't mind that we see the main characters from behind.
really original.
Will be getting this.

WTK
01-25-2011, 05:22 PM
Updated BD/DVD combo cover art added to the first post...

Damius
01-25-2011, 05:48 PM
Updated BD/DVD combo cover art added to the first post...

Ok so that will be how the BD/DVD combo will look like, hope the case is the right size.

MelancholicMariya
01-25-2011, 06:15 PM
Looks like this will be my first American Blu-ray disc.

tigeress02
02-14-2011, 06:23 PM
Looks like this release will include Air Communication. Initially found out about it on the back of one of those "art cards" in a package from TRSI. Confirmed it with TRSI's product listing (http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmgr/Y0Q44cC26Ck6wiD4hC/browse/item/90056/4/0/0).


Special Features: Air Communication Prequel Movie (TV Series Summary), Movie 1 News Flash, Movie 1 Preview, TV Spots, Trailers.

WTK
02-14-2011, 06:44 PM
Looks like this release will include Air Communication. Initially found out about it on the back of one of those "art cards" in a package from TRSI. Confirmed it with TRSI's product listing (http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmgr/Y0Q44cC26Ck6wiD4hC/browse/item/90056/4/0/0).


Special Features: Air Communication Prequel Movie (TV Series Summary), Movie 1 News Flash, Movie 1 Preview, TV Spots, Trailers.
This make a lot of sense. It was hard to imagine them releasing this separately (or even with the next movie).

EnigmaticWarrior
04-07-2011, 02:40 AM
Just got my shipping confirmation from Right Stuf! :bigsmile: We'll see once and for all whether or not this will come in a DVD or Blu-ray case. So, any bets? :sd:

gundamcero
04-07-2011, 02:51 AM
With my luck it will be a DVD case in which it would look out of place next the series I have on blu ray. Funi, get your shit together. I can handle a certain series being one way but to ruin the continuity of a series unacceptable.

RyGuySays
04-07-2011, 08:47 AM
I'd love to know, though, what the thought process was behind the Beauty and the Beast Diamond Edition release. Dual releases, one in a DVD-size case and one in a Blu-ray-size case...but both were combo sets, including Blu-rays and a DVD copy. I would assume it was another experiment to gently nudge (i.e., take advantage of ignorance to coerce) DVD buyers into accepting the Blu-ray format, but it sure comes across as ridiculous.

That being said, given that Hollywood has set the tone for retailers (primarily B&M retailers, since that's where a significant amount of packaging influence originates) in regards to Blu-ray/DVD combo packs, there's a pretty good chance it'll end up in Blu-ray-size cases. That being said, there may be different motivations in play here (sure, Hollywood is making a big Blu-ray push, but how much does FUNimation care?), and there's nothing stopping FUNi from sticking the discs inside DVD-size cases other than trying to avoid the items being stocked on shelves in the DVD section in stores (the ones carrying the releases, anyway).

Sorry I missed this. Those Disney packs were/are absurd. It's just Disney's way of tricking consumers into buying the Blu-ray since they both have the higher MSRP. I believe this whole DVD/Blu-ray combo pack craze is just to speed up the adoption of Blu-ray, although it's just a waste of space for most people that are buying the movie for the Blu alone. That being said I think Funi is exactly the same as Hollywood, their trying to push Blu-ray just as badly. I have no doubt this will be in a Blu case, the dimensions of the cover art seem to support this too.

Talyn
04-07-2011, 10:17 AM
With my luck it will be a DVD case in which it would look out of place next the series I have on blu ray. Funi, get your shit together. I can handle a certain series being one way but to ruin the continuity of a series unacceptable.

It wouldn't be the first time... *looks at Aquarion part 1 and part 2* :rolleyes:

gundamcero
04-07-2011, 05:24 PM
Hope I find out before my order ships so I can cancel it. This new package decision Funi has isn't make me look forward to ordering from them until they go back to blu ray only or blu ray cases.

WTK
04-08-2011, 09:22 AM
Just got my shipping confirmation from Right Stuf! :bigsmile: We'll see once and for all whether or not this will come in a DVD or Blu-ray case. So, any bets? :sd:
I have gotten confirmation that it's packaged in a DVD-sized keepcase with an O-card (possibly limited run).

Sanosuke
04-08-2011, 09:50 AM
Damn. Didn't expect FUNi to get such a backlash with this choice in packaging for the combos. :O

MelancholicMariya
04-08-2011, 09:59 AM
Damn. Didn't expect FUNi to get such a backlash with this choice in packaging for the combos. :O

Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.

Orihimes_Boyfriend
04-08-2011, 10:05 AM
Damn. Didn't expect FUNi to get such a backlash with this choice in packaging for the combos. :O

Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I don't care what it comes in (DVD case or BD case) as long as the disc is fine I happy.

zerok
04-08-2011, 10:13 AM
Just got my shipping confirmation from Right Stuf! :bigsmile: We'll see once and for all whether or not this will come in a DVD or Blu-ray case. So, any bets? :sd:
I have gotten confirmation that it's packaged in a DVD-sized keepcase with an O-card (possibly limited run).

*Sigh*

Really, FUNi? Well, not that this isn't expected with the Summer Wars missing slipcover and all the issues the Eva 2.22 packaging has. Still though, why go against the standard for this kind of thing? It's gonna stick out like a sore thumb in my Blu-Ray collection...

lcummins
04-08-2011, 10:38 AM
Damn. Didn't expect FUNi to get such a backlash with this choice in packaging for the combos. :O

Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I don't care what it comes in (DVD case or BD case) as long as the disc is fine I happy.

I really have to agree on this. I can understand about being frustrated about the packaging choices, but ultimately, we are buying for the shows, not the package... well, most of us anyway. That's not to say the package isn't important, but to completely rule out a purchase based just on the packaging... I just don't understand it myself.

Talyn
04-08-2011, 10:47 AM
Damn. Didn't expect FUNi to get such a backlash with this choice in packaging for the combos. :O

Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I don't care what it comes in (DVD case or BD case) as long as the disc is fine I happy.

A few years ago I could see this argument. Hell I remember the, deservedly so, Scanavo bashing vs. all other hubs in the Hub Wars. The bricks vs. singles, etc... there was a few points we all talked about because that was before the bubble popped and the industry could take a good amount of feedback on those decisions.... However, things are not the same anymore. We're at an interesting phase of industry changing dynamics...either change with it or dont. This isn't 2006...

Personally, I don't get not purchasing a show because of it's packaging either. If my buying habits had that I'd never buy Ramen, or cans of soda, etc... you're buying whats inside not the pretty packaging... I just want the damn discs and I'm very much a box lover...

MelancholicMariya
04-08-2011, 10:53 AM
Damn. Didn't expect FUNi to get such a backlash with this choice in packaging for the combos. :O

Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I don't care what it comes in (DVD case or BD case) as long as the disc is fine I happy.

I really have to agree on this. I can understand about being frustrated about the packaging choices, but ultimately, we are buying for the shows, not the package... well, most of us anyway. That's not to say the package isn't important, but to completely rule out a purchase based just on the packaging... I just don't understand it myself.

Totally. Like I can understand why you'd be frustrated with having the TV series in a BD case and potentially all the movies in DVD packaging, but in the end you're paying for the content. Having different packaging shouldn't take away any enjoyment from the show.

I myself prefer digipaks to any other packaging out there, but if it's not in a digipak it doesn't mean I'm not going to buy it.

Hell if you're buying from Japan, which granted is an unfair comparison in some ways, your BD shelf will be far from consistent. Packaging in Japan for anime is so crazy compared to the US, having one shelf of the same size case is going to be impossible. In this situation Eden of the East comes in I believe.. five BD cases and the movies, depending on the edition you buy, are like contained in chipboard artboxes which kind of add an inch to the height iirc.

It's kind of something you need to just get over.

hikaru004
04-08-2011, 11:13 AM
Hell if you're buying from Japan, which granted is an unfair comparison in some ways, your BD shelf will be far from consistent. Packaging in Japan for anime is so crazy compared to the US, having one shelf of the same size case is going to be impossible. In this situation Eden of the East comes in I believe.. five BD cases and the movies, depending on the edition you buy, are like contained in chipboard artboxes which kind of add an inch to the height iirc.

It's kind of something you need to just get over.

It's not impossible if you don't buy LEs. Regular Japanese BD sized cases are the same size as US ones. Since people do buy BDs other than anime and adjust their storage areas accordingly, people should just vote with their wallets for what they prefer.

gundamcero
04-08-2011, 11:46 AM
Figures. I'm done Funi. Order canceled.

ooga
04-08-2011, 12:06 PM
I'm pretty damn anal about packaging so I'm pretty surprised that I'm not that bothered by this. It's because of two reasons:
1- This package does include a DVD so I guess you can make an argument that it needs to be included in a DVD case. The DVD segment of the market is still far larger than the BD segment.
2- In my Anime collection its BD cases that stick out like a sore thumb. If I remember correctly I only have 3 BD releases (Summer Wars, Ponyo & Eden of the East) vs 2,500+ DVDs.

Devdan
04-08-2011, 12:33 PM
Yeah, the lack of consistency bugs me, but really, I wish every anime blu-ray release did this. I kind of hate blu-ray cases; I've gotten used to them, but I kind of hate them. At least the cover art will be larger now...and probably have a big ugly bar at the top that says DVD/BLU-RAY COMBO PACK. (not that being in a blu-ray case would fix that)

MelancholicMariya
04-08-2011, 12:38 PM
Hell if you're buying from Japan, which granted is an unfair comparison in some ways, your BD shelf will be far from consistent. Packaging in Japan for anime is so crazy compared to the US, having one shelf of the same size case is going to be impossible. In this situation Eden of the East comes in I believe.. five BD cases and the movies, depending on the edition you buy, are like contained in chipboard artboxes which kind of add an inch to the height iirc.

It's kind of something you need to just get over.

It's not impossible if you don't buy LEs. Regular Japanese BD sized cases are the same size as US ones. Since people do buy BDs other than anime and adjust their storage areas accordingly, people should just vote with their wallets for what they prefer.

Sometimes BD's do not get RE's. Also if you buy an RE that's basically the inferior product no matter how you look at it.

I'm very aware that people buy other stuff than anime, I was just giving it to you from a certain perspective.

Again, packaging shouldn't matter at all. This entire situation is bitching for the sake of bitching and once again blaming Funi for everything even if it's a logical business decision. Funimation isn't Disney or Warner Brothers and Funi has to take every little shot at making money they can, that's what people are not getting here.

You should just be happy they're giving these shows to you. (you as in everyone complaining and canceling orders, not specifically Hikaru004 who I am quoting.)

WilliamG
04-08-2011, 01:02 PM
Hell if you're buying from Japan, which granted is an unfair comparison in some ways, your BD shelf will be far from consistent. Packaging in Japan for anime is so crazy compared to the US, having one shelf of the same size case is going to be impossible. In this situation Eden of the East comes in I believe.. five BD cases and the movies, depending on the edition you buy, are like contained in chipboard artboxes which kind of add an inch to the height iirc.

It's kind of something you need to just get over.

It's not impossible if you don't buy LEs. Regular Japanese BD sized cases are the same size as US ones. Since people do buy BDs other than anime and adjust their storage areas accordingly, people should just vote with their wallets for what they prefer.

Sometimes BD's do not get RE's. Also if you buy an RE that's basically the inferior product no matter how you look at it.

I'm very aware that people buy other stuff than anime, I was just giving it to you from a certain perspective.

Again, packaging shouldn't matter at all. This entire situation is bitching for the sake of bitching and once again blaming Funi for everything even if it's a logical business decision. Funimation isn't Disney or Warner Brothers and Funi has to take every little shot at making money they can, that's what people are not getting here.

You should just be happy they're giving these shows to you. (you as in everyone complaining and canceling orders, not specifically Hikaru004 who I am quoting.)

To be fair, Funimation isn't giving these shows away, people have to pay for them and when one's hard earned dollars is in play, they should be able to have certain expectations when it comes to spending those dollars. If that expectation ends up being how the product is packaged, then they have every right to say yes or no. When people say that packaging shouldn't matter just reminds me of when ADV released the first volume of Sorcerer Hunters on DVD. The first cover was so hideous that the complaining from fans eventually led to the company changing the cover to reflect the original VHS releases. Thus packing, whether it's the style of case or the cover, does matter to some people and they have every right to vote their pleasure or displeasure with their wallets.

William G.

gundamcero
04-08-2011, 01:23 PM
Maybe if we complain enough Funi will make some changes. If they sold just the artwork for a blu ray case I would buy that. Wouldn't be difficult.

RyGuySays
04-08-2011, 01:33 PM
Wow real moronic move Funi. The whole concept of a Blu-ray/DVD combo packs are to get the customer to adapt to Blu-ray more quickly, not keep their outdated DVD collections looking consistent.

I'm probably gonna cancel this now wait for a reissue when the release the second one. Maybe they'll release them bundled together.

zerok
04-08-2011, 01:37 PM
To be fair, Funimation isn't giving these shows away, people have to pay for them and when one's hard earned dollars is in play, they should be able to have certain expectations when it comes to spending those dollars. If that expectation ends up being how the product is packaged, then they have every right to say yes or no. When people say that packaging shouldn't matter just reminds me of when ADV released the first volume of Sorcerer Hunters on DVD. The first cover was so hideous that the complaining from fans eventually led to the company changing the cover to reflect the original VHS releases. Thus packing, whether it's the style of case or the cover, does matter to some people and they have every right to vote their pleasure or displeasure with their wallets.

William G.

This, in the end I'm paying for it, which gives me the right to complain all I want, be it a valid concern or nitpicky reasons. I'm buying this for the blu-ray to go along with my blu-ray set of the series, is it really too much to ask for consistent packaging? I couldn't give less of a crap about the dvd copy, it's just going to sit in the case collecting dust like all the other blu's that came with dvd copies.

Honestly, the whole "shut up and be happy you're getting it at all" metality can be applied to everything. They changed some credits? You should just be happy they released it at all. Some music is gone? Just be happy that you can still watch it and stop complaining. I mean, if we're just supposed to be happy with whatever we're getting then why have a cover art forum at all? We should just be happy if they sold us the discs in paper sleeves with nothing but the series name written on the disc, housed in a brown paper bag.

...Rant aside, I'm still buying this because I really want to see it.

MelancholicMariya
04-08-2011, 01:37 PM
Hell if you're buying from Japan, which granted is an unfair comparison in some ways, your BD shelf will be far from consistent. Packaging in Japan for anime is so crazy compared to the US, having one shelf of the same size case is going to be impossible. In this situation Eden of the East comes in I believe.. five BD cases and the movies, depending on the edition you buy, are like contained in chipboard artboxes which kind of add an inch to the height iirc.

It's kind of something you need to just get over.

It's not impossible if you don't buy LEs. Regular Japanese BD sized cases are the same size as US ones. Since people do buy BDs other than anime and adjust their storage areas accordingly, people should just vote with their wallets for what they prefer.

Sometimes BD's do not get RE's. Also if you buy an RE that's basically the inferior product no matter how you look at it.

I'm very aware that people buy other stuff than anime, I was just giving it to you from a certain perspective.

Again, packaging shouldn't matter at all. This entire situation is bitching for the sake of bitching and once again blaming Funi for everything even if it's a logical business decision. Funimation isn't Disney or Warner Brothers and Funi has to take every little shot at making money they can, that's what people are not getting here.

You should just be happy they're giving these shows to you. (you as in everyone complaining and canceling orders, not specifically Hikaru004 who I am quoting.)

To be fair, Funimation isn't giving these shows away, people have to pay for them and when one's hard earned dollars is in play, they should be able to have certain expectations when it comes to spending those dollars. If that expectation ends up being how the product is packaged, then they have every right to say yes or no. When people say that packaging shouldn't matter just reminds me of when ADV released the first volume of Sorcerer Hunters on DVD. The first cover was so hideous that the complaining from fans eventually led to the company changing the cover to reflect the original VHS releases. Thus packing, whether it's the style of case or the cover, does matter to some people and they have every right to vote their pleasure or displeasure with their wallets.

William G.

If that's how strongly you feel about a shows packaging, okay, but the expectation shouldn't really exceed that of the content on the discs. The packaging doesn't affect watchability or the quality of the show itself. It is just something for you to keep the disc which contains the show you want in.

It's up to you. I'm in it for the content. Not how pretty it'll look on my shelf. Though if you have high expectations you can't exactly help that.

MelancholicMariya
04-08-2011, 01:44 PM
Honestly, the whole "shut up and be happy you're getting it at all" metality can be applied to everything. They changed some credits? You should just be happy they released it at all. Some music is gone? Just be happy that you can still watch it and stop complaining. I mean, if we're just supposed to be happy with whatever we're getting then why have a cover art forum at all? We should just be happy if they sold us the discs in paper sleeves with nothing but the series name written on the disc, housed in a brown paper bag.

That's kind of exaggerating what I mean. You're getting a quality release for a small price with a DVD and BD which is (probably) native HD and has lossless audio and all that jazz but the most minor point, the box it comes in, the size of it can completely turn off a buyer. If it came in literally terrible packaging such as a brown back as you stated, that's a completely different situation. This case still safely houses the disc with the content you want on. As long as the disc is safe, DVD or BD keepcase, what does it matter?


...Rant aside, I'm still buying this because I really want to see it.
A very good reason for buying it.

In the end, you do have the right to complain about the packaging, but not buying it because of the casing is crazy.

zerok
04-08-2011, 02:08 PM
That's kind of exaggerating what I mean. You're getting a quality release for a small price with a DVD and BD which is (probably) native HD and has lossless audio and all that jazz but the most minor point, the box it comes in, the size of it can completely turn off a buyer. If it came in literally terrible packaging such as a brown back as you stated, that's a completely different situation. This case still safely houses the disc with the content you want on. As long as the disc is safe, DVD or BD keepcase, what does it matter?
What I was going for was more that those things bother some people, but not others, much like this. Credit changes don't bother me in the least, I usually skip over those anyway. Music... eh, they changed the last song in Beck but it didn't bother me, I still love that series to death.


...Rant aside, I'm still buying this because I really want to see it.
A very good reason for buying it.

In the end, you do have the right to complain about the packaging, but not buying it because of the casing is crazy.

Oh, I agree. Though I do see how it can cause someone with OCD to not buy it. Hell, I'm slightly OCD which is why I'm complaining so much.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I did hold off buying the Back to the Future blu-ray set because of packaging issues... That's different though, the way the discs were held down was completely dumb.

Hayate Kurogane
04-08-2011, 02:13 PM
Wow real moronic move Funi. The whole concept of a Blu-ray/DVD combo packs are to get the customer to adapt to Blu-ray more quickly, not keep their outdated DVD collections looking consistent.

Ehhh... except FUNimation's probably ("also", if not "only") doing this to keep product in retail stores by getting it stocked in the anime (read: anime DVD) section instead of buried in the Blu-ray section.

Fencedude
04-08-2011, 02:31 PM
It's not impossible if you don't buy LEs. Regular Japanese BD sized cases are the same size as US ones. Since people do buy BDs other than anime and adjust their storage areas accordingly, people should just vote with their wallets for what they prefer.

A lot of JP Anime BD releases don't come in non "LE" format.

Jeremy J.
04-08-2011, 02:33 PM
I have never not purchased something because of the packaging. That seems almost ludicrous to me. If there's a series or movie I really want to see, but it's going to be sent in paper sleeves, I'd still buy it. Does packaging matter? Absolutely. But it is never, ever the reason I don't buy something.

Again, before I'm told how I'm "the reason Funi gets away with what they do", I want a great case and packaging as much as the next person. But I also understand the needs of Funimation to reach out to a broader audience and perhaps cut down on costs.

Fencedude
04-08-2011, 02:35 PM
Again, before I'm told how I'm "the reason Funi gets away with what they do", I want a great case and packaging as much as the next person. But I also understand the needs of Funimation to reach out to a broader audience and perhaps cut down on costs.

If "great case and packaging" is a condition, I really don't see why people would want a BD case over a DVD case.

Jeremy J.
04-08-2011, 02:55 PM
Again, before I'm told how I'm "the reason Funi gets away with what they do", I want a great case and packaging as much as the next person. But I also understand the needs of Funimation to reach out to a broader audience and perhaps cut down on costs.

If "great case and packaging" is a condition, I really don't see why people would want a BD case over a DVD case.

It doesn't matter to me. In fact, DVD size cases allow for much larger art, so they have a nice plus to them. While I do like BD cases, it's not a priority for me.

Tenkyoken
04-08-2011, 02:55 PM
I'm actually a huge fan of this combo move and I hope they continue to do it in the future. I can see why some people have issues with the BD vs. DVD case issue, but since 95% of my anime collection is DVD, this works perfectly for me since I can place the DVD size BD's in with the rest of my collection without glaring size differences.

Kouji Tamino
04-08-2011, 03:22 PM
Hmm... I can't exactly pin it down, but I can't figure out why this doesn't bother me all that much, considering how much I shook my fist at Rebuild of Evangelion's packaging inconsistencies. Maybe it's because I was indifferent to Eden of the East's BD packaging in the first place.

RyGuySays
04-08-2011, 03:36 PM
Hell if you're buying from Japan, which granted is an unfair comparison in some ways, your BD shelf will be far from consistent. Packaging in Japan for anime is so crazy compared to the US, having one shelf of the same size case is going to be impossible. In this situation Eden of the East comes in I believe.. five BD cases and the movies, depending on the edition you buy, are like contained in chipboard artboxes which kind of add an inch to the height iirc.

It's kind of something you need to just get over.

That's not entirely true. I've been purchasing Region 2 BD for the past 3 years and they have all been in BD sized cases/boxes. Even chipboard artboxes are BD sized. On a shelf next to it may be a couple mm taller but that's because it's in a box. They're still nowhere near DVD sized (G1). And the Eden of the East BDs were all in BD cases (G2) with a slipcover, Amazon Jp even came out with a limited Chipboard box to hold the series in movies (All BD sized). The only Blu-ray R2 that I've come across that was G1 sized was the Haruhi movie, and that was so the Otaku with every LE R2 DVD would have consistency, the BD Box was G2 sized.

Funi's latest push now with their combo packs in G1 cases is IMO is part of that "appeasing the hardcore fan with there obscenely large DVD collections"- way of thinking. I don't think this is because of retail. Best Buy is the only large nationwide chain (AFAIK) to have an anime section, and most of them no longer do. The BB that do display both Blu-ray and DVDs together.

I'm definitely ticked off about this. To the people that keep saying that "packaging doesn't matter", and "I'm paying for content", that's BS. At $35 I'm paying for the whole deal (Audio, video, extras, packaging) if one of those is shit, it'll definitely change my decision on buying. That way of thinking, that I only care about the content, is why so many people just download fansubs. Great packaging and art is what gives many people more incentive to buy. Since I moved into an apartment I know longer have any DVDs, and my media stand is made of glass shelves that only fit G2 sized cases, so G1 DVD cases won't even fit. So yeah packaging definitely key for me.

And after so many people bought the Eden of the East BD Set why on earth would Funi release the movie (that you need to go watch to finish the story) in a DVD case?

I can see why some people have issues with the BD vs. DVD case issue, but since 95% of my anime collection is DVD, this works perfectly for me since I can place the DVD size BD's in with the rest of my collection without glaring size differences.

See and I'm betting that for the majority of hardcore anime fans this is precisely the case and why Funi is going to be releasing them in this size.

Fencedude
04-08-2011, 03:45 PM
That's not entirely true. I've been purchasing Region 2 BD for the past 3 years and they have all been in BD sized cases/boxes.

Then you've basically lucked out.

Something like half of my JP BDs are in DVD sized cases.

Edit: And seriously guys, "great packaging" and "BD Cases" do not coexist.

Hayate Kurogane
04-08-2011, 03:47 PM
Funi's latest push now with their combo packs in G1 cases is IMO is part of that "appeasing the hardcore fan with there obscenely large DVD collections"- way of thinking. I don't think this is because of retail. Best Buy is the only large nationwide chain (AFAIK) to have an anime section, and most of them no longer do. The BB that do display both Blu-ray and DVDs together.

I question your use of the word "most," and I question your declaration that the ones that do have an anime section are putting the anime Blu-ray releases in with the DVDs.

First of all, regardless of how many Best Buys still have an anime section, the fact remains that Best Buy still accounts for a significant percentage of revenue generated from anime media sales. If this is done as a result of only having such a section in 5 stores or 500, doesn't matter.

Second of all, if all Best Buys that still carried anime were putting all the anime Blu-rays in the anime DVD section like whichever store near you that you're thinking of...well, hell, that'd be a great move, one I'd fully support, because it makes sense (well, it also doesn't make sense at the same time, because Best Buy stores are arranged by format, but still). It probably makes perfect sense to whichever stocking staff or manager works at your local store. Anecdotally, in none of the twelve Best Buy stores I regularly encounter along my travel routes throughout Michigan, have I ever seen such an arrangement. And, if grouping all the anime together instead of putting Blu-ray releases in the Blu-ray section were actually company policy, then FUNimation's combo packs would have probably ended up in Blu-ray cases, not DVD cases.

Talyn
04-08-2011, 04:01 PM
You really want to bitch about dvd packaging, look or buy any Canadian Alliance Atlantis dvd sets (vertical trays, no hubs, just floating along each side on top of each other) released before February 2011. Hands down the worst F'N dvd sets ever released. Be grateful no anime company would do this because there'd be a nuclear winter on here...but we are talking standard dvd NON-Scanavo hubbed cases. There are far worse things in packaging out there than a friggin dvd case.

LelouchLamperouge
04-08-2011, 04:08 PM
As someone with a severe case of OCD, I can't really buy this because that would mean having to redo my entire shelf so my bluray collection into my DVD collection so it would match. I keep the two separate. That in and of itself would drive me up the darn wall. I should have just bought Eden of the East on DVD then or just not have bought it at all. I'll hold out hope that they change packaging in the future for future properties, if not well, looks like Funi is pretty much dead to me. It's not worth buying if its going to sit on my shelf and irritate the crap out of me daily.

MelancholicMariya
04-08-2011, 04:11 PM
That's not entirely true. I've been purchasing Region 2 BD for the past 3 years and they have all been in BD sized cases/boxes. Even chipboard artboxes are BD sized. On a shelf next to it may be a couple mm taller but that's because it's in a box. They're still nowhere near DVD sized (G1). And the Eden of the East BDs were all in BD cases (G2) with a slipcover, Amazon Jp even came out with a limited Chipboard box to hold the series in movies (All BD sized). The only Blu-ray R2 that I've come across that was G1 sized was the Haruhi movie, and that was so the Otaku with every LE R2 DVD would have consistency, the BD Box was G2 sized.

That's some luck because my import shelf looks nothing close to consistent. It depends entirely on what you're buying and what company manufactures it. I'm aware of what dimentions the Eden of the East BD's were, what I'm getting at is the box sliiiightly adds some height to it, so it's already inconsistent if it's not the same size.

I also own the Disappearance LE and as you said it is the same as the DVD's, but didn't the BD-Box come out just before that? The movie LE is the size of a DVD and it's got no interior case it's a very special kind of packaging yet the TV BD's are in BD cases with a little artbox from what I recall seeing, so that's just as bad as this and I do not see any complaining. Unless of course the BD's are DVD sized.


I'm definitely ticked off about this. To the people that keep saying that "packaging doesn't matter", and "I'm paying for content", that's BS. At $35 I'm paying for the whole deal (Audio, video, extras, packaging) if one of those is shit, it'll definitely change my decision on buying. That way of thinking, that I only care about the content, is why so many people just download fansubs. Great packaging and art is what gives many people more incentive to buy. Since I moved into an apartment I know longer have any DVDs, and my media stand is made of glass shelves that only fit G2 sized cases, so G1 DVD cases won't even fit. So yeah packaging definitely key for me.

That's a rather weird assumption. I've never downloaded an anime and kept that file, I wish to buy my anime and I do. I care about content over the whole thing. First it's content then visual and audio then extras (internal or external) then packaging. I love nice packaging and especially Aniplex's Bakemonogatari/Ore no Imouto packaging, but it doesn't take over the content of the discs for me. You're buying BD's because you like the show/movie right? You're not buying any old thing just because the packaging looks pretty I assume.


See and I'm betting that for the majority of hardcore anime fans this is precisely the case and why Funi is going to be releasing them in this size.

Believe it or not, hardcore anime fans are aware of the audio/visual aspects of anime and probably know BD is the way to watch anime. DVD is still a format, and it still sells rather well.

zerok
04-08-2011, 04:24 PM
Edit: And seriously guys, "great packaging" and "BD Cases" do not coexist.

Speak for yourself, I actually really like BD cases, moreso than DVD. :P

Fencedude
04-08-2011, 04:34 PM
As someone with a severe case of OCD,

Its a good thing that companies don't have to pander to every random person's OCD.

hikaru004
04-08-2011, 06:47 PM
Edit: And seriously guys, "great packaging" and "BD Cases" do not coexist.

Speak for yourself, I actually really like BD cases, moreso than DVD. :P

Have you opened up a FUNi eco-case lately? :P

As someone with a severe case of OCD,

Its a good thing that companies don't have to pander to every random person's OCD.

Actually, you hear this a lot on blu-ray.com forums. (not buying due to case size) It's one of the important things to know when buying a steelbook.

RyGuySays
04-08-2011, 07:21 PM
I question your use of the word "most," and I question your declaration that the ones that do have an anime section are putting the anime Blu-ray releases in with the DVDs.

First of all, regardless of how many Best Buys still have an anime section, the fact remains that Best Buy still accounts for a significant percentage of revenue generated from anime media sales. If this is done as a result of only having such a section in 5 stores or 500, doesn't matter.

Second of all, if all Best Buys that still carried anime were putting all the anime Blu-rays in the anime DVD section like whichever store near you that you're thinking of...well, hell, that'd be a great move, one I'd fully support, because it makes sense (well, it also doesn't make sense at the same time, because Best Buy stores are arranged by format, but still). It probably makes perfect sense to whichever stocking staff or manager works at your local store. Anecdotally, in none of the twelve Best Buy stores I regularly encounter along my travel routes throughout Michigan, have I ever seen such an arrangement. And, if grouping all the anime together instead of putting Blu-ray releases in the Blu-ray section were actually company policy, then FUNimation's combo packs would have probably ended up in Blu-ray cases, not DVD cases.


In 2009 Best Buy removed Anime sections from over 460 of their stores in the US. That's more than half of their stores. The top half still maintained their anime sections. I live in the New York/New Jersey area which is one of the more populated areas in the US. Most of the Best Buys around me (there's a lot of them) still have anime sections, and they do mix Blu-rays and DVDs in that section. Most of the Movie section is actually Blu-rays now and the DVD section is getting smaller and smaller as time goes on. But I'm not exactly sure what you are arguing with me about. I suppose the observation here is that Entertainment companies are trying to push these combo packs into stores to get rid of the DVD section all together. By throwing in a copy of the DVD inside the Blu-ray they can stop printing DVD only copies and force early adopters to buy the higher MSRP Blu-ray. I still stand by opinion that Brick and Mortar Product placement isn't why Funimation chose to release this title in a G1 case.


Then you've basically lucked out.

Something like half of my JP BDs are in DVD sized cases.

Edit: And seriously guys, "great packaging" and "BD Cases" do not coexist.

Besides for Aniplex's releases and a few other box sets, I can't think of many G1 sized JP releases. Which ones do you have?

And also I completely disagree that "BD cases and great packaging do not coexist". But than again Blue is my favorite color. But I like the smaller G2 size all together, and the BD cases themselves are much cooler than DVD cases IMO. (Super Jewel Boxes were probably the best but that's a different discussion)

zerok
04-08-2011, 07:29 PM
Have you opened up a FUNi eco-case lately? :P

lol, true, but the eco-cases aren't just a blu-ray problem... God, I hate eco-cases. :beat:

RyGuySays
04-08-2011, 07:42 PM
That's some luck because my import shelf looks nothing close to consistent. It depends entirely on what you're buying and what company manufactures it. I'm aware of what dimentions the Eden of the East BD's were, what I'm getting at is the box sliiiightly adds some height to it, so it's already inconsistent if it's not the same size.

I also own the Disappearance LE and as you said it is the same as the DVD's, but didn't the BD-Box come out just before that? The movie LE is the size of a DVD and it's got no interior case it's a very special kind of packaging yet the TV BD's are in BD cases with a little artbox from what I recall seeing, so that's just as bad as this and I do not see any complaining. Unless of course the BD's are DVD sized.

A couple of mm isn't inconsistent, that's nitpicking. The difference between G1 and G2 is different in height and width, and very noticeable, and like I said before it physically doesn't fit on my shelf. And about Haruhi, the LE BD was in the same packaging as the R2 DVDs for shelf consistency among the people who bought the LE R2 DVDs. The BD Box was G2 size, and there was plenty of bitching from people who bought the BD Box. (It's why I bought the RE BD movie that was G2 size)


That's a rather weird assumption. I've never downloaded an anime and kept that file, I wish to buy my anime and I do. I care about content over the whole thing. First it's content then visual and audio then extras (internal or external) then packaging. I love nice packaging and especially Aniplex's Bakemonogatari/Ore no Imouto packaging, but it doesn't take over the content of the discs for me. You're buying BD's because you like the show/movie right? You're not buying any old thing just because the packaging looks pretty I assume.

It may be weird to you, but look where your posting. Why do you think the US anime industry is so terrible right now? It's easier to download fansubs at HD quality, why would a fan go out and buy a DVD that's lesser quality than what they downloaded on their computer?


Believe it or not, hardcore anime fans are aware of the audio/visual aspects of anime and probably know BD is the way to watch anime. DVD is still a format, and it still sells rather well.

Ok? I didn't say they weren't. But the fact that they own hundreds of DVDs and just because they're switching formats doesn't mean they want their shelves looking all funky. It's the same thing Kadakawa did with Haruhi LE BD release.

LelouchLamperouge
04-08-2011, 11:37 PM
As someone with a severe case of OCD,

Its a good thing that companies don't have to pander to every random person's OCD.

Its a good thing I can save my money as a result. I think it comes out better for me in the end.

bored@lazy
04-09-2011, 12:09 AM
I wonder how many people who cancelled their preorders because of the packaging will end up watching these series/movies anyway in one way or another?

gundamcero
04-09-2011, 12:19 AM
I've seen the series and both movies since they came out last year. I still have them to watch any time. So don't have to worry about that. So I'm basing my decision on the packaging.

bored@lazy
04-09-2011, 01:11 AM
I've seen the series and both movies since they came out last year. I still have them to watch any time. So don't have to worry about that. So I'm basing my decision on the packaging.
I see, that was exactly the sort of response I was looking for.

VinceA
04-09-2011, 04:35 AM
As someone with a severe case of OCD,

Its a good thing that companies don't have to pander to every random person's OCD.

Its a good thing I can save my money as a result. I think it comes out better for me in the end.

But wouldn't your OCD compel you to complete the series with the movie or is your OCD only OC about packaging not completeness?

Buckeye
04-09-2011, 08:18 AM
Damn. Didn't expect FUNi to get such a backlash with this choice in packaging for the combos. :O

Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.
For this title, that is definitely true. When it is something you want, you get it regardless of packaging unless it is whacked up (see Hayate the Combat Butler as an example). As backlashing as this choice of packaging is, it is definitely far from whacked up. Packaging is there to get people to buy things they otherwise would not want to buy.

RyGuySays
04-09-2011, 09:20 AM
I see, that was exactly the sort of response I was looking for.

haha yeah that's probably the response you're going to get from a lot of people. I, however, still have not finished the series, and would rather wait to pick this up when Funi releases "Paradise Lost". I'm still hoping they release this in some sort of two pack bundle or something.


Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.

How is it not thinking about the industry? This argument doesn't make any sense. G2 is the universal size for all Blu-ray, when a company goes against that standard of course it raises some concern. The backlash is pretty tame here because I assume most folks collections here are DVDs. Go to any Blu-ray centered website and you'll get a much more heated response.

Damius
04-09-2011, 09:29 AM
I've seen the series and both movies since they came out last year. I still have them to watch any time. So don't have to worry about that. So I'm basing my decision on the packaging.
I see, that was exactly the sort of response I was looking for.

I agree with you... I'm not surprised by this kind of answers... as unfortunate as it is.

EyeOfPain
04-09-2011, 11:01 AM
I've seen the series and both movies since they came out last year. I still have them to watch any time. So don't have to worry about that. So I'm basing my decision on the packaging.

Oh, so you must have purchased the Japanese release. Did you buy the BD or the DVD?

gundamcero
04-09-2011, 11:23 AM
Neither. I have blu ray copies of the series and movies on my computer. I buy the products to support the industy. Until they screw it up of course.

hikaru004
04-09-2011, 11:26 AM
I wonder how many people who cancelled their preorders because of the packaging will end up watching these series/movies anyway in one way or another?


Actually, it goes further than that...

There's threads for photo shopping your own cover if you don't like the official one on BD centric sites. The things that people do to make a purchase more acceptable to them is rather astounding.


back to more on topic: Since I heard in this thread that the o-sleeve is limited, it's prob best to buy local when it comes out anyways.

MelancholicMariya
04-09-2011, 11:45 AM
Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.

How is it not thinking about the industry? This argument doesn't make any sense. G2 is the universal size for all Blu-ray, when a company goes against that standard of course it raises some concern. The backlash is pretty tame here because I assume most folks collections here are DVDs. Go to any Blu-ray centered website and you'll get a much more heated response.
Alright so, you're not thinking about the industry because you refuse to support a R1 release which you intended to buy, but because of the packaging size you're not buying it now, which isn't supporting the industry.

Blu-ray is not the standard format yet. You're making a terrible argument yourself. G2 is not the universal size for "all Blu-ray" as I stated before, Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya in Japan was a DVD sized case where the re-release of the series on Blu-ray was in standard Blu-ray cases. Hell some of my Blu-ray's appear to be a bit smaller than the avarage Blu-ray keepcase and most of them are a few mm over the average.

Also your assumption appears to be wrong. (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=106961)

I don't really care what any Blu-ray centered website says, whoever gets angry enough to completely quit continuing buying a series of BD's because the case is a little different is crazy.

I myself am not going to lose sleep at night because my shelf isn't super consistent. As long as I can watch it and enjoy the content I'm perfectly happy.

bored@lazy
04-09-2011, 12:06 PM
Neither. I have blu ray copies of the series and movies on my computer. I buy the products to support the industy. Until they screw it up of course.

So you're supporting the industry by not buying this release but keeping the illegal copies on your pc? Bravo.

Jeremy J.
04-09-2011, 12:28 PM
Even in American films the packaging is inconsistent throughout the market as well. Anybody pick up the Social Network on Blu-ray? How about the Watchmen: Ultimate Edition? What about the really wide Disney BDs? Guess I have to throw those out now because they totally don't match all the others. It's a shame. They're films I really enjoy too. (sarcasm)

gundamcero
04-09-2011, 12:28 PM
Neither. I have blu ray copies of the series and movies on my computer. I buy the products to support the industy. Until they screw it up of course.

So you're supporting the industry by not buying this release but keeping the illegal copies on your pc? Bravo.

Yeah, considering I could do that for every series but choose to spend my money on Funimations products gives me the right to have some imput on what I'm buying. I will also continue to do so. My reason for not buying this isn't because I have an illegal copy. If it was then I wouldn't care about the package. I've had this on pre-order since it was announced and I was looking forward having it on blu ray. But in my opinion this isn't a blu ray with a DVD copy. It's a DVD with a blu ray copy. Which I don't support. Sorry if you don't approve of my choice.

Zeether
04-09-2011, 12:40 PM
I'm sorry, but "the packaging isn't right" is one of the laziest, dumbest reasons for passing on a release that I have ever heard. Ever.

Jeremy J.
04-09-2011, 12:55 PM
But in my opinion this isn't a blu ray with a DVD copy. It's a DVD with a blu ray copy. Which I don't support. Sorry if you don't approve of my choice.

You are certainly entitled to your own convictions, but everyone is somewhat angry at you because the R1 industry is very unstable and many of us realize that Funimation is trying to get it as stable as humanly possible.

Also, It just sounds pretentious ridiculous. This is one of the reason why the anime fandom gets a lot of flack. Sorry, I don't mean to be offensive, but that's the truth of it.

gundamcero
04-09-2011, 01:08 PM
But in my opinion this isn't a blu ray with a DVD copy. It's a DVD with a blu ray copy. Which I don't support. Sorry if you don't approve of my choice.

You are certainly entitled to your own convictions, but everyone is somewhat angry at you because the R1 industry is very unstable and many of us realize that Funimation is trying to get it as stable as humanly possible.

Also, It just sounds pretentious ridiculous. This is one of the reason why the anime fandom gets a lot of flack. Sorry, I don't mean to be offensive, but that's the truth of it.

Guess I'll just keep my opinions to myself then. Last thing I need is people attacking me because I choose not to buy one product out of the hundreds that I have perchased from Funimation. I also have no intention of stop buying them altogether as well. This is the only complaint I really have made against Funimation. Which in time I will get over and most likely buy this movie despite my convictions. For now I will see what happens.

WilliamG
04-09-2011, 01:12 PM
Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.

How is it not thinking about the industry? This argument doesn't make any sense. G2 is the universal size for all Blu-ray, when a company goes against that standard of course it raises some concern. The backlash is pretty tame here because I assume most folks collections here are DVDs. Go to any Blu-ray centered website and you'll get a much more heated response.
Alright so, you're not thinking about the industry because you refuse to support a R1 release which you intended to buy, but because of the packaging size you're not buying it now, which isn't supporting the industry.

Blu-ray is not the standard format yet. You're making a terrible argument yourself. G2 is not the universal size for "all Blu-ray" as I stated before, Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya in Japan was a DVD sized case where the re-release of the series on Blu-ray was in standard Blu-ray cases. Hell some of my Blu-ray's appear to be a bit smaller than the avarage Blu-ray keepcase and most of them are a few mm over the average.

Also your assumption appears to be wrong. (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=106961)

I don't really care what any Blu-ray centered website says, whoever gets angry enough to completely quit continuing buying a series of BD's because the case is a little different is crazy.

I myself am not going to lose sleep at night because my shelf isn't super consistent. As long as I can watch it and enjoy the content I'm perfectly happy.

I really don't get the supporting or not supporting the industry part of the argument. If someone doesn't want to purchase a Funimation release because of the packaging they have other options available to them. For instance they could put the money toward Sentai's Blu-ray release of Needless or Bandai's Blu-ray releases of K-on and The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. There are other methods of supporting the industry other than purchasing a Funimation release.

gundamcero
04-09-2011, 01:19 PM
Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.

How is it not thinking about the industry? This argument doesn't make any sense. G2 is the universal size for all Blu-ray, when a company goes against that standard of course it raises some concern. The backlash is pretty tame here because I assume most folks collections here are DVDs. Go to any Blu-ray centered website and you'll get a much more heated response.
Alright so, you're not thinking about the industry because you refuse to support a R1 release which you intended to buy, but because of the packaging size you're not buying it now, which isn't supporting the industry.

Blu-ray is not the standard format yet. You're making a terrible argument yourself. G2 is not the universal size for "all Blu-ray" as I stated before, Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya in Japan was a DVD sized case where the re-release of the series on Blu-ray was in standard Blu-ray cases. Hell some of my Blu-ray's appear to be a bit smaller than the avarage Blu-ray keepcase and most of them are a few mm over the average.

Also your assumption appears to be wrong. (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=106961)

I don't really care what any Blu-ray centered website says, whoever gets angry enough to completely quit continuing buying a series of BD's because the case is a little different is crazy.

I myself am not going to lose sleep at night because my shelf isn't super consistent. As long as I can watch it and enjoy the content I'm perfectly happy.

I really don't get the supporting or not supporting the industry part of the argument. If someone doesn't want to purchase a Funimation release because of the packaging they have other options available to them. For instance they could put the money toward Sentai's Blu-ray release of Needless or Bandai's Blu-ray releases of K-on and The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. There are other methods of supporting the industry other than purchasing a Funimation release.

I enjoy buying series from other companies than Funimation. Sentai is really good right now with there release schedule and the amount of products they license. Bandai still has good releases. I mostly buy complete collections from them.

MelancholicMariya
04-09-2011, 01:23 PM
Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.

How is it not thinking about the industry? This argument doesn't make any sense. G2 is the universal size for all Blu-ray, when a company goes against that standard of course it raises some concern. The backlash is pretty tame here because I assume most folks collections here are DVDs. Go to any Blu-ray centered website and you'll get a much more heated response.
Alright so, you're not thinking about the industry because you refuse to support a R1 release which you intended to buy, but because of the packaging size you're not buying it now, which isn't supporting the industry.

Blu-ray is not the standard format yet. You're making a terrible argument yourself. G2 is not the universal size for "all Blu-ray" as I stated before, Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya in Japan was a DVD sized case where the re-release of the series on Blu-ray was in standard Blu-ray cases. Hell some of my Blu-ray's appear to be a bit smaller than the avarage Blu-ray keepcase and most of them are a few mm over the average.

Also your assumption appears to be wrong. (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=106961)

I don't really care what any Blu-ray centered website says, whoever gets angry enough to completely quit continuing buying a series of BD's because the case is a little different is crazy.

I myself am not going to lose sleep at night because my shelf isn't super consistent. As long as I can watch it and enjoy the content I'm perfectly happy.

I really don't get the supporting or not supporting the industry part of the argument. If someone doesn't want to purchase a Funimation release because of the packaging they have other options available to them. For instance they could put the money toward Sentai's Blu-ray release of Needless or Bandai's Blu-ray releases of K-on and The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. There are other methods of supporting the industry other than purchasing a Funimation release.

Well of course, but if you're buying The King of Eden you've clearly bought Eden of the East, yet because of packaging inconsistencies you do not want to finish the series which either implies you'll watch it fansubbed or you'll buy the Japanese release. One of those is supporting the industry and the other is not.

Maybe my statement was worded to make it sound like "If you don't support this release you're clearly not supporting anything." which I didn't mean for it to come off as.

Jeremy J.
04-09-2011, 01:25 PM
But in my opinion this isn't a blu ray with a DVD copy. It's a DVD with a blu ray copy. Which I don't support. Sorry if you don't approve of my choice.

You are certainly entitled to your own convictions, but everyone is somewhat angry at you because the R1 industry is very unstable and many of us realize that Funimation is trying to get it as stable as humanly possible.

Also, It just sounds pretentious ridiculous. This is one of the reason why the anime fandom gets a lot of flack. Sorry, I don't mean to be offensive, but that's the truth of it.

Guess I'll just keep my opinions to myself then. Last thing I need is people attacking me because I choose not to buy one product out of the hundreds that I have perchased from Funimation. I also have no intention of stop buying them altogether as well. This is the only complaint I really have made against Funimation. Which in time I will get over and most likely buy this movie despite my convictions. For now I will see what happens.

There's no need to keep opinions to yourself. Don't misinterpret my message as being mean. I just wanted you to understand why you were getting the kind of response you got. This is also not the first time you've stated your refusal to buy something. I saw you say the same stuff in the Ga Rei Zero cover discussion. I do hope you get over it. Having such compulsions like that is never a good thing.

Anyway, just received this. It looks nice. It has a slipcover with the same image as the DVD cover, it contains three discs (1 BD, 2 DVDs), is in a clear DVD case, and has a reversible cover that is a realistic portrait of Takizawa on one side and a small pic of Takizawa's Selecao number on the other.

Ingraman
04-09-2011, 01:27 PM
I've seen the series and both movies since they came out last year. I still have them to watch any time. So don't have to worry about that. So I'm basing my decision on the packaging.
I see, that was exactly the sort of response I was looking for.

I watched both the TV series and first movie via fansubs. I have Funi's release of the TV series on BD, and the first movie should be arriving in my mailbox today. While I don't like Funi's decision about how to make a BD release look like a cheap DVD release, I'll still buy the second movie when it comes out. I started EotE, and I'll go ahead and finish it (grumbling all the way). I'll just have to hide the two movies in a dark corner of a closet, so that they don't infect my BD shelf.

I just won't be starting too many new series released in this form of combo-pack. It'll have to be a series that I've seen before and _really_ like in order to get me over the packaging hurdle. If I've seen it and have only been mildly entertained, or if I haven't seen it at all, it's doubtful that I'll give Funi's BD/DVD releases even a first glance. I'm fine with the combo choice, but I'm not happy with its implementation. If Funi were to place the BDs in a BD case, and the DVDs in a DVD case, and put them in either chipboard or paperboard, I'd be happy enough (although still getting rid of the lesser format and the box, since there'd be no point to them). It's Funi's choice entirely.

gundamcero
04-09-2011, 01:34 PM
But in my opinion this isn't a blu ray with a DVD copy. It's a DVD with a blu ray copy. Which I don't support. Sorry if you don't approve of my choice.

You are certainly entitled to your own convictions, but everyone is somewhat angry at you because the R1 industry is very unstable and many of us realize that Funimation is trying to get it as stable as humanly possible.

Also, It just sounds pretentious ridiculous. This is one of the reason why the anime fandom gets a lot of flack. Sorry, I don't mean to be offensive, but that's the truth of it.

Guess I'll just keep my opinions to myself then. Last thing I need is people attacking me because I choose not to buy one product out of the hundreds that I have perchased from Funimation. I also have no intention of stop buying them altogether as well. This is the only complaint I really have made against Funimation. Which in time I will get over and most likely buy this movie despite my convictions. For now I will see what happens.

There's no need to keep opinions to yourself. Don't misinterpret my message as being mean. I just wanted you to understand why you were getting the kind of response you got. This is also not the first time you've stated your refusal to buy something. I saw you say the same stuff in the Ga Rei Zero cover discussion. I do hope you get over it. Having such compulsions like that is never a good thing.

Anyway, just received this. It looks nice. It has a slipcover with the same image as the DVD cover, it contains three discs (1 BD, 2 DVDs), is in a clear DVD case, and has a reversible cover that is a realistic portrait of Takizawa on one side and a small pic of Takizawa's Selecao number on the other.

I have actually decided to buy Ga Rei Zero still. I figure it would go nicely with Dance In The Vampire Bund and Ride Back. My biggest issue with this release is the inconsist package between the series and the movies. I know it sounds stupid but it bothers me. Didn't mean to upset anybody.

WilliamG
04-09-2011, 01:34 PM
Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.

How is it not thinking about the industry? This argument doesn't make any sense. G2 is the universal size for all Blu-ray, when a company goes against that standard of course it raises some concern. The backlash is pretty tame here because I assume most folks collections here are DVDs. Go to any Blu-ray centered website and you'll get a much more heated response.
Alright so, you're not thinking about the industry because you refuse to support a R1 release which you intended to buy, but because of the packaging size you're not buying it now, which isn't supporting the industry.

Blu-ray is not the standard format yet. You're making a terrible argument yourself. G2 is not the universal size for "all Blu-ray" as I stated before, Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya in Japan was a DVD sized case where the re-release of the series on Blu-ray was in standard Blu-ray cases. Hell some of my Blu-ray's appear to be a bit smaller than the avarage Blu-ray keepcase and most of them are a few mm over the average.

Also your assumption appears to be wrong. (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=106961)

I don't really care what any Blu-ray centered website says, whoever gets angry enough to completely quit continuing buying a series of BD's because the case is a little different is crazy.

I myself am not going to lose sleep at night because my shelf isn't super consistent. As long as I can watch it and enjoy the content I'm perfectly happy.

I really don't get the supporting or not supporting the industry part of the argument. If someone doesn't want to purchase a Funimation release because of the packaging they have other options available to them. For instance they could put the money toward Sentai's Blu-ray release of Needless or Bandai's Blu-ray releases of K-on and The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. There are other methods of supporting the industry other than purchasing a Funimation release.

Well of course, but if you're buying The King of Eden you've clearly bought Eden of the East, yet because of packaging inconsistencies you do not want to finish the series which either implies you'll watch it fansubbed or you'll buy the Japanese release. One of those is supporting the industry and the other is not.

Maybe my statement was worded to make it sound like "If you don't support this release you're clearly not supporting anything." which I didn't mean for it to come off as.

I definitely agree that not purchasing a release and turning around and watching it fansubbed is not supporting the industry. For myself, I have never watched nor will ever watch anime fansubbed. Since the VHS days I have been a strong supporter of the domestic anime industry. As far as this issue goes, people should be able to make their decision one way or the other without ridicule. If someone decides to purchase the release for certain reasons, I respect their opinion. If someone decides not to purchase the release for different reasons, I respect their opinion as well. However, I do not respect at all those that fallback on fansubs as an alternative to a legitimate release.

William G.

EnigmaticWarrior
04-09-2011, 01:42 PM
Anyway, just received this. It looks nice. It has a slipcover with the same image as the DVD cover, it contains three discs (1 BD, 2 DVDs), is in a clear DVD case, and has a reversible cover that is a realistic portrait of Takizawa on one side and a small pic of Takizawa's Selecao number on the other.

I would love to see some pictures if you have the means to take them, Jeremy J. ;)

gundamcero
04-09-2011, 01:44 PM
Well people often think about themselves, not the industry which makes these anime available. You really should by buying it for the content not the packaging. It's such a silly reason to not support a release.

How is it not thinking about the industry? This argument doesn't make any sense. G2 is the universal size for all Blu-ray, when a company goes against that standard of course it raises some concern. The backlash is pretty tame here because I assume most folks collections here are DVDs. Go to any Blu-ray centered website and you'll get a much more heated response.
Alright so, you're not thinking about the industry because you refuse to support a R1 release which you intended to buy, but because of the packaging size you're not buying it now, which isn't supporting the industry.

Blu-ray is not the standard format yet. You're making a terrible argument yourself. G2 is not the universal size for "all Blu-ray" as I stated before, Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya in Japan was a DVD sized case where the re-release of the series on Blu-ray was in standard Blu-ray cases. Hell some of my Blu-ray's appear to be a bit smaller than the avarage Blu-ray keepcase and most of them are a few mm over the average.

Also your assumption appears to be wrong. (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=106961)

I don't really care what any Blu-ray centered website says, whoever gets angry enough to completely quit continuing buying a series of BD's because the case is a little different is crazy.

I myself am not going to lose sleep at night because my shelf isn't super consistent. As long as I can watch it and enjoy the content I'm perfectly happy.

I really don't get the supporting or not supporting the industry part of the argument. If someone doesn't want to purchase a Funimation release because of the packaging they have other options available to them. For instance they could put the money toward Sentai's Blu-ray release of Needless or Bandai's Blu-ray releases of K-on and The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. There are other methods of supporting the industry other than purchasing a Funimation release.

Well of course, but if you're buying The King of Eden you've clearly bought Eden of the East, yet because of packaging inconsistencies you do not want to finish the series which either implies you'll watch it fansubbed or you'll buy the Japanese release. One of those is supporting the industry and the other is not.

Maybe my statement was worded to make it sound like "If you don't support this release you're clearly not supporting anything." which I didn't mean for it to come off as.

I definitely agree that not purchasing a release and turning around and watching it fansubbed is not supporting the industry. For myself, I have never watched nor will ever watch anime fansubbed. Since the VHS days I have been a strong supporter of the domestic anime industry. As far as this issue goes, people should be able to make their decision one way or the other without ridicule. If someone decides to purchase the release for certain reasons, I respect their opinion. If someone decides not to purchase the release for different reasons, I respect their opinion as well. However, I do not respect at all those that fallback on fansubs as an alternative to a legitimate release.

William G.

I don't fall back on fansubs. It just gives me the opportunity to watch a series before I purchase it considering it comes out usually a year or so after it airs. Don't want to get in a debate about fansubs. The reasons I have expressed about this release have nothing to do with that.

EyeOfPain
04-09-2011, 02:00 PM
Yet you've stated you still have a pirated copy of the movie on your hard drive, despite the existence of a legitimate release in (what I presume is) your region. I fail to see how that isn't a "fall back on fansubs."

RyGuySays
04-09-2011, 02:04 PM
Alright so, you're not thinking about the industry because you refuse to support a R1 release which you intended to buy, but because of the packaging size you're not buying it now, which isn't supporting the industry.

I'm talking about the Blu-ray industry not the Anime industry.



Blu-ray is not the standard format yet. You're making a terrible argument yourself. G2 is not the universal size for "all Blu-ray" as I stated before, Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya in Japan was a DVD sized case where the re-release of the series on Blu-ray was in standard Blu-ray cases. Hell some of my Blu-ray's appear to be a bit smaller than the avarage Blu-ray keepcase and most of them are a few mm over the average.


I never said Blu-ray was the standard, stop putting words into my mouth and read my post. I said the G2 size is the standard for Blu-ray releases.


Also your assumption appears to be wrong. (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=106961)


Why did you post this link? To show that Blu-ray is the preferred format amongst Anime fans? I would be shocked if it wasn't. My assumption was that most Anime fans collections are made up mostly of DVDs and they probably are, there's not that much Anime Blu-ray out in this country.


I don't really care what any Blu-ray centered website says, whoever gets angry enough to completely quit continuing buying a series of BD's because the case is a little different is crazy.

I myself am not going to lose sleep at night because my shelf isn't super consistent. As long as I can watch it and enjoy the content I'm perfectly happy.

Good for you. I never said I was going to "completely quit buying a series of BD's because the case is a little different" I said I wan't going to buy this movie because the physical case doesn't fit on my shelf. Why do you care?



Well of course, but if you're buying The King of Eden you've clearly bought Eden of the East, yet because of packaging inconsistencies you do not want to finish the series which either implies you'll watch it fansubbed or you'll buy the Japanese release. One of those is supporting the industry and the other is not.

Is Funimation a charity company? People always talk about supporting the industry like it's a donation. It's a product. You either buy it or you don't. (Yes downloading a fansub of a licensed and readily available show is stealing, but that's not what we're talking about) I already said I haven't even finished the series and have no problem waiting until the second movie comes out to see if Funi changes their design.

gundamcero
04-09-2011, 02:08 PM
Yet you've stated you still have a pirated copy of the movie on your hard drive, despite the existence of a legitimate release in (what I presume is) your region. I fail to see how that isn't a "fall back on fansubs."

I watched it a year ago when it came out. I'm not choosing to cancel my order because I already have a copy as I have stated.

Jeremy J.
04-09-2011, 02:20 PM
Anyway, just received this. It looks nice. It has a slipcover with the same image as the DVD cover, it contains three discs (1 BD, 2 DVDs), is in a clear DVD case, and has a reversible cover that is a realistic portrait of Takizawa on one side and a small pic of Takizawa's Selecao number on the other.

I would love to see some pictures if you have the means to take them, Jeremy J. ;)

Sure thing!
Slipcover/DVD Cover Front (http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2584/p1010076.jpg)
Slipcover/DVD Cover Back (http://img858.imageshack.us/img858/9215/p1010077o.jpg)
Reversible Cover (http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8190/p1010078t.jpg)
DVD 1 (http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9245/p1010079xu.jpg)
DVD 2/BD (http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9119/p1010080u.jpg)

LelouchLamperouge
04-09-2011, 02:21 PM
As someone with a severe case of OCD,

Its a good thing that companies don't have to pander to every random person's OCD.

Its a good thing I can save my money as a result. I think it comes out better for me in the end.

But wouldn't your OCD compel you to complete the series with the movie or is your OCD only OC about packaging not completeness?

If I had bought the series on DVD, the only complaint I would have is paying a few more bucks, which is not a real big deal for me when it comes to movies, for a blu-ray copy but when it comes to looking acceptable on my shelf, everything would be good because the DVD packaging and this movie's packaging would match as DVD size. I'd be okay with everything.

However, I am not happy or okay. I hope they will change their minds in the future on future properties later this year (incl. the Geneon crap, Shiki, etc), but I doubt it. At least I will have so much more disposable income to spend on companies that are better.

MelancholicMariya
04-09-2011, 02:28 PM
I'm talking about the Blu-ray industry not the Anime industry.

Why talk about the Blu-ray industry? I'm talking about the anime industry and how Funimation has to survive in it making it's products sell.


I never said Blu-ray was the standard, stop putting words into my mouth and read my post. I said the G2 size is the standard for Blu-ray releases.

God no need to get all uptight about a misunderstanding, Jesus. I wasn't trying to put words into your mouth, I'm not a douche.


Why did you post this link? To show that Blu-ray is the preferred format amongst Anime fans? I would be shocked if it wasn't. My assumption was that most Anime fans collections are made up mostly of DVDs and they probably are, there's not that much Anime Blu-ray out in this country.

Well there certainly isn't as much anime on Blu-ray in R1 than Japan, but why would that make their standards for packaging different? Several Blu-ray collectors here have already spoken about how they dislike the standard Blu-ray keepcase and I know they import and probably have a rather sizable collection of Blu-ray's so how is having more DVD's than BD's a valid point as to why they don't care about what keepcase it's in? Because they didn't screw themselves over buying BD sized shelves only and understand DVD isn't quite dead yet?


Good for you. I never said I was going to "completely quit buying a series of BD's because the case is a little different" I said I wan't going to buy this movie because the physical case doesn't fit on my shelf. Why do you care?

That's the thing, I don't care. I'm not the one getting moody about it. Buy a different shelf, don't screw yourself in the process anymore.

Shelf diversity, equal opportunities for all shelves.



Is Funimation a charity company? People always talk about supporting the industry like it's a donation. It's a product. You either buy it or you don't. (Yes downloading a fansub of a licensed and readily available show is stealing, but that's not what we're talking about) I already said I haven't even finished the series and have no problem waiting until the second movie comes out to see if Funi changes their design.

Well there's no problem with what you're doing then. If you're patient enough that's fantastic.

This particular statement you quoted wasn't actually aimed at you, it was aimed at an implication of a different member so it doesn't really make sense in this argument, but if you're going to buy it either way, great.

And it's not only Funimation or the anime industry which gets this "support the industry" stuff. I've seen forums about movies and games and all that noise saying the same thing. Pirating isn't really an exclusive thing to anime, which is obvious.

RyGuySays
04-09-2011, 02:30 PM
Even in American films the packaging is inconsistent throughout the market as well. Anybody pick up the Social Network on Blu-ray? How about the Watchmen: Ultimate Edition? What about the really wide Disney BDs? Guess I have to throw those out now because they totally don't match all the others. It's a shame. They're films I really enjoy too. (sarcasm)

The Social Network and Watchmen were both released in G2 sized cases and Disney releases their combo packs in Blu-ray and DVD cases.

Edit: Oh, your talking about the depth of some of the Disney cases? Like the 5 Disc+ releases. Oh come on, no one cares about that. I'd rather they'd be thicker then the eco packages. It's the height that's the issue.

MelancholicMariya
04-09-2011, 02:31 PM
Reversible Cover (http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8190/p1010078t.jpg)

First time I'll ever use a reversible cover. I love that image of Takizawa.

hikaru004
04-09-2011, 02:46 PM
Even in American films the packaging is inconsistent throughout the market as well. Anybody pick up the Social Network on Blu-ray? How about the Watchmen: Ultimate Edition? What about the really wide Disney BDs? Guess I have to throw those out now because they totally don't match all the others. It's a shame. They're films I really enjoy too. (sarcasm)

What really wide BDs from Disney released in the US?

Disney's animation single movie combo BD/DVDs are 15 mm wide, Gundam UC 10 mm. 5 mm will not be noticed that much. (All measurements are using BD cases with the Disney version containing an o-sleeve.) If it comes to that, toss out that Eva 2.22 BD also (15 mm wide).

Disney doesn't release a lot of movie sets on BD so the occasional one is usually welcome.

It's the height that's the complaint. 2 cm (over 3/4 inch) difference between a BD case and a DVD case.

RyGuySays
04-09-2011, 03:24 PM
Shelf diversity, equal opportunities for all shelves.


Hahaha true that.

To be fair, it's a Sanus Media Stand, and they're glass shelves, they are adjustable but as they're arranged now you can hold the most if there set to the Blu-ray size, since I don't have anymore DVDs it's a non issue. Either way this argument s getting silly M.M. so this all I'm going to say on the subject. I hope Funi switches back to BD cases for their future Combo packs. At least the packaging looks pretty cool and it isn't in your typical DVD case, that reversible cover is pretty sweet, it's the one from the JP release.

MelancholicMariya
04-09-2011, 03:59 PM
At least the packaging looks pretty cool and it isn't in your typical DVD case, that reversible cover is pretty sweet, it's the one from the JP release.

I'd of honestly preferred a chipboard artbox which replicates the Japanese release which contains the discs.

Though I'll probably be buying that release as well as this one anyway.

WTK
04-09-2011, 04:07 PM
back to more on topic: Since I heard in this thread that the o-sleeve is limited, it's prob best to buy local when it comes out anyways.
It's not officially confirmed. But for the most FUNi O-cards should be considered as limited.
Slipcover/DVD Cover Front (http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2584/p1010076.jpg)
Slipcover/DVD Cover Back (http://img858.imageshack.us/img858/9215/p1010077o.jpg)
Reversible Cover (http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8190/p1010078t.jpg)
DVD 1 (http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9245/p1010079xu.jpg)
DVD 2/BD (http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9119/p1010080u.jpg)
Looking good. I won't get mine until Monday due to some transit delay. It's interesting to see a QR code on the back cover (I think it might the first I have seen on an anime release).

zerok
04-09-2011, 04:14 PM
It's interesting to see a QR code on the back cover (I think it might the first I have seen on an anime release).

My EotE blu-ray set has one on the back too. I thought Summer Wars did as well, but I just checked and it doesn't.

WTK
04-09-2011, 04:37 PM
It's interesting to see a QR code on the back cover (I think it might the first I have seen on an anime release).

My EotE blu-ray set has one on the back too. I thought Summer Wars did as well, but I just checked and it doesn't.
I definitely forgot about that one (link (http://cdn3b.dvdempire.org/products/63/1546763bh.jpg)), the DVD counterpart (http://cdn3a.dvdempire.org/products/62/1546762bh.jpg) had it too.

MelancholicMariya
04-09-2011, 07:51 PM
It's interesting to see a QR code on the back cover (I think it might the first I have seen on an anime release).

My EotE blu-ray set has one on the back too. I thought Summer Wars did as well, but I just checked and it doesn't.
I definitely forgot about that one (link (http://cdn3b.dvdempire.org/products/63/1546763bh.jpg)), the DVD counterpart (http://cdn3a.dvdempire.org/products/62/1546762bh.jpg) had it too.

I saw that and I see them all the time and I don't understand what the hell they are. I read Wikipedia and I still have no idea what they do.

lcummins
04-09-2011, 07:56 PM
I think the QR codes were used a lot for this series as a marketing thing to tie into some of the concepts in the series.

lcummins
04-09-2011, 08:00 PM
It's interesting to see a QR code on the back cover (I think it might the first I have seen on an anime release).

My EotE blu-ray set has one on the back too. I thought Summer Wars did as well, but I just checked and it doesn't.
I definitely forgot about that one (link (http://cdn3b.dvdempire.org/products/63/1546763bh.jpg)), the DVD counterpart (http://cdn3a.dvdempire.org/products/62/1546762bh.jpg) had it too.

I saw that and I see them all the time and I don't understand what the hell they are. I read Wikipedia and I still have no idea what they do.

If you have a smartphone you can get apps to scan them; you can also use your browser to decipher them or get a stand alone app. They are usually URLs to web sites or content like trailers, or coupons or info for products.

zerok
04-09-2011, 08:14 PM
I saw that and I see them all the time and I don't understand what the hell they are. I read Wikipedia and I still have no idea what they do.

Think of it as a website link in real life. You scan it with an app on your phone, or sometimes you can take a picture of it and text it to a number and they'll reply with a link. Depending on the circumstances, it'll take you to a viral marketing site or something related to the product. In the case of the EotE set, it takes you to youtube to watch the official trailer for the series.

Edit: lol, lcummins beat me to it, that's what I get for taking a call while writing this out.

Tenkyoken
04-09-2011, 08:21 PM
It's interesting to see a QR code on the back cover (I think it might the first I have seen on an anime release).

My EotE blu-ray set has one on the back too. I thought Summer Wars did as well, but I just checked and it doesn't.
I definitely forgot about that one (link (http://cdn3b.dvdempire.org/products/63/1546763bh.jpg)), the DVD counterpart (http://cdn3a.dvdempire.org/products/62/1546762bh.jpg) had it too.

I saw that and I see them all the time and I don't understand what the hell they are. I read Wikipedia and I still have no idea what they do.

If you have a smartphone you can get apps to scan them; you can also use your browser to decipher them or get a stand alone app. They are usually URLs to web sites or content like trailers, or coupons or info for products.

Leads to a Youtube trailer for the Blu-ray and DVD for the TV series in case anyone was wondering.

bored@lazy
04-09-2011, 08:39 PM
Yet you've stated you still have a pirated copy of the movie on your hard drive, despite the existence of a legitimate release in (what I presume is) your region. I fail to see how that isn't a "fall back on fansubs."

I watched it a year ago when it came out. I'm not choosing to cancel my order because I already have a copy as I have stated.

Well as far as I'm concerned if you're not going to buy the official release, you have no right to keep the copy on your PC either.

gundamcero
04-09-2011, 11:07 PM
Yet you've stated you still have a pirated copy of the movie on your hard drive, despite the existence of a legitimate release in (what I presume is) your region. I fail to see how that isn't a "fall back on fansubs."

I watched it a year ago when it came out. I'm not choosing to cancel my order because I already have a copy as I have stated.

Well as far as I'm concerned if you're not going to buy the official release, you have no right to keep the copy on your PC either.

Ok

bored@lazy
04-09-2011, 11:34 PM
Yet you've stated you still have a pirated copy of the movie on your hard drive, despite the existence of a legitimate release in (what I presume is) your region. I fail to see how that isn't a "fall back on fansubs."

I watched it a year ago when it came out. I'm not choosing to cancel my order because I already have a copy as I have stated.

Well as far as I'm concerned if you're not going to buy the official release, you have no right to keep the copy on your PC either.

Ok

Well, as long as we're in agreeance. Don't turn into a hypocrite now! :P

MRlinky
04-10-2011, 01:07 PM
I'm not one to cancel over packaging, but you shouldn't use it as an excuse to not support a legitamate release. We are fans of a niche medium so things like this will happen.

I hope RACS starts sending this out soon. That Air King tee looks sickkkk (I hope I fit into it!)

DBoy2501
04-10-2011, 01:09 PM
For anyone without a smartphone who wants to decode QR codes, I found this page (http://techie-buzz.com/softwares/read-qr-codes-on-pc.html) with links and information about two freeware PC software decoders. I tried the bctester software on some QR codes that were on a King of Eden promo card that came with my Summer Wars o-card, and it worked, although it took several attempts to snap photos with my point and shoot that it could decode.

memyselfandi
04-10-2011, 01:25 PM
The free "barcode scanner" application for android reads QR codes just fine.

DBoy2501
04-10-2011, 01:51 PM
The free "barcode scanner" application for android reads QR codes just fine. On a PC? I don't have a smartphone, android or otherwise, so I was looking for something to use on my PC.

ExcelGenerations
04-10-2011, 02:00 PM
But in my opinion this isn't a blu ray with a DVD copy. It's a DVD with a blu ray copy. Which I don't support. Sorry if you don't approve of my choice.

You are certainly entitled to your own convictions, but everyone is somewhat angry at you because the R1 industry is very unstable and many of us realize that Funimation is trying to get it as stable as humanly possible.

Also, It just sounds pretentious ridiculous. This is one of the reason why the anime fandom gets a lot of flack. Sorry, I don't mean to be offensive, but that's the truth of it.

Guess I'll just keep my opinions to myself then. Last thing I need is people attacking me because I choose not to buy one product out of the hundreds that I have perchased from Funimation. I also have no intention of stop buying them altogether as well. This is the only complaint I really have made against Funimation. Which in time I will get over and most likely buy this movie despite my convictions. For now I will see what happens.

Well the reason people are attacking you is because you are not buying a product based on its actual product you know the MOVIE. Plus you downloaded it which is what many seem to think they are entitled to. If you are not buying this movie then you shouldn't have seen it correct? But that's the problem with anime fans nowadays.

gundamcero
04-10-2011, 02:18 PM
But in my opinion this isn't a blu ray with a DVD copy. It's a DVD with a blu ray copy. Which I don't support. Sorry if you don't approve of my choice.

You are certainly entitled to your own convictions, but everyone is somewhat angry at you because the R1 industry is very unstable and many of us realize that Funimation is trying to get it as stable as humanly possible.

Also, It just sounds pretentious ridiculous. This is one of the reason why the anime fandom gets a lot of flack. Sorry, I don't mean to be offensive, but that's the truth of it.

Guess I'll just keep my opinions to myself then. Last thing I need is people attacking me because I choose not to buy one product out of the hundreds that I have perchased from Funimation. I also have no intention of stop buying them altogether as well. This is the only complaint I really have made against Funimation. Which in time I will get over and most likely buy this movie despite my convictions. For now I will see what happens.

Well the reason people are attacking you is because you are not buying a product based on its actual product you know the MOVIE. Plus you downloaded it which is what many seem to think they are entitled to. If you are not buying this movie then you shouldn't have seen it correct? But that's the problem with anime fans nowadays.

Not really sure what your talking about as I have stated several times why I'm not buying this now. I will wait until Funimation hopefully releases this in the future as a blu ray only version. The fact that I've seen this before over a year ago just means I didn't want to wait a year for Funimation to release it so I'm not in a hurry to see it now so I can wait. Would it make you feel any better if I told you that almost every series I've seen that has been brought over by Funimation I have purchased. Which would be almost all of them except for a few that I did not enjoy. I even buy multiple releases considering funimation has started to release a lot of the series I already own on blu ray now.

EyeOfPain
04-10-2011, 04:50 PM
The free "barcode scanner" application for android reads QR codes just fine. On a PC? I don't have a smartphone, android or otherwise, so I was looking for something to use on my PC.

A couple of browser extensions/add-ons seem to be available that allow decoding of QR Codes. I just installed BarDeCo (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fdbaidolhfnecgiloehbailojonjaloa) the other day, which worked even with the EotE code posted earlier. FoxToPhone (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/foxtophone-aka-sendtophone/) is the only Firefox add-on that seems to mention anything about decoding QRs in its summary, and I couldn't find any relevant extensions for Opera or Safari (or IE, but I don't see a way to search the Internet Explorer Gallery (http://www.ieaddons.com/us/addons/default.aspx)).

Outside of browsers, I don't know of any software, other than what was mentioned in the page you posted earlier.

ExcelGenerations
04-10-2011, 05:39 PM
But in my opinion this isn't a blu ray with a DVD copy. It's a DVD with a blu ray copy. Which I don't support. Sorry if you don't approve of my choice.

You are certainly entitled to your own convictions, but everyone is somewhat angry at you because the R1 industry is very unstable and many of us realize that Funimation is trying to get it as stable as humanly possible.

Also, It just sounds pretentious ridiculous. This is one of the reason why the anime fandom gets a lot of flack. Sorry, I don't mean to be offensive, but that's the truth of it.

Guess I'll just keep my opinions to myself then. Last thing I need is people attacking me because I choose not to buy one product out of the hundreds that I have perchased from Funimation. I also have no intention of stop buying them altogether as well. This is the only complaint I really have made against Funimation. Which in time I will get over and most likely buy this movie despite my convictions. For now I will see what happens.

Well the reason people are attacking you is because you are not buying a product based on its actual product you know the MOVIE. Plus you downloaded it which is what many seem to think they are entitled to. If you are not buying this movie then you shouldn't have seen it correct? But that's the problem with anime fans nowadays.

Not really sure what your talking about as I have stated several times why I'm not buying this now. I will wait until Funimation hopefully releases this in the future as a blu ray only version. The fact that I've seen this before over a year ago just means I didn't want to wait a year for Funimation to release it so I'm not in a hurry to see it now so I can wait. Would it make you feel any better if I told you that almost every series I've seen that has been brought over by Funimation I have purchased. Which would be almost all of them except for a few that I did not enjoy. I even buy multiple releases considering funimation has started to release a lot of the series I already own on blu ray now.

Well you mentioned you downloaded it which won't help your case and let people sympathize with you. The fact is you watch it because you couldn't wait. Now that it is being released your using a packaging excuse to not buy it. It doesn't matter about what other shows you purchased. That strays away from this release. A reasonable person would buy this show to watch their content but you have already watched it so it doesn't matter to you now.

Also wth... this is strange... Most people complaining that their is inconsistency with their dvd now having a blu-ray case, but you are saying you bought the blu-ray. The package is of a blu-ray release! Well at least that is what I'm looking at. Plus you downloaded it... that doesn't come with a package, one would think it would be the ultimate disgrace, but of course it was free so beggars can't be choosers.

EyeOfPain
04-10-2011, 05:49 PM
The series was released in separate Blu-ray and DVD sized cases. Movie 1 contains both BD and DVD versions in a single DVD-sized case. Gundamcero purchased the series on Blu-ray (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1841075#post1841075).

Either way, still an asinine reason.

ExcelGenerations
04-10-2011, 06:00 PM
The series was released in separate Blu-ray and DVD sized cases. Movie 1 contains both BD and DVD versions in a single DVD-sized case. Gundamcero purchased the series on Blu-ray (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1841075#post1841075).

Either way, still an asinine reason.

Ah, from what I saw this combo pack looked like a blu-ray package slipcover. I saw the Blu-ray banner and what not. It looks like a BD release so what gives?

Plus like I said what about those packages for the downloads? Seems like crap to me or anyone would think that right? You get zip. One could think with this release you get a bonus DVD kinda like some of those other releases with a bonus item such as an artbook or lol Chromed Shelled Regios flag. xD

gundamcero
04-10-2011, 06:02 PM
But in my opinion this isn't a blu ray with a DVD copy. It's a DVD with a blu ray copy. Which I don't support. Sorry if you don't approve of my choice.

You are certainly entitled to your own convictions, but everyone is somewhat angry at you because the R1 industry is very unstable and many of us realize that Funimation is trying to get it as stable as humanly possible.

Also, It just sounds pretentious ridiculous. This is one of the reason why the anime fandom gets a lot of flack. Sorry, I don't mean to be offensive, but that's the truth of it.

Guess I'll just keep my opinions to myself then. Last thing I need is people attacking me because I choose not to buy one product out of the hundreds that I have perchased from Funimation. I also have no intention of stop buying them altogether as well. This is the only complaint I really have made against Funimation. Which in time I will get over and most likely buy this movie despite my convictions. For now I will see what happens.

Well the reason people are attacking you is because you are not buying a product based on its actual product you know the MOVIE. Plus you downloaded it which is what many seem to think they are entitled to. If you are not buying this movie then you shouldn't have seen it correct? But that's the problem with anime fans nowadays.

Not really sure what your talking about as I have stated several times why I'm not buying this now. I will wait until Funimation hopefully releases this in the future as a blu ray only version. The fact that I've seen this before over a year ago just means I didn't want to wait a year for Funimation to release it so I'm not in a hurry to see it now so I can wait. Would it make you feel any better if I told you that almost every series I've seen that has been brought over by Funimation I have purchased. Which would be almost all of them except for a few that I did not enjoy. I even buy multiple releases considering funimation has started to release a lot of the series I already own on blu ray now.

Well you mentioned you downloaded it which won't help your case and let people sympathize with you. The fact is you watch it because you couldn't wait. Now that it is being released your using a packaging excuse to not buy it. It doesn't matter about what other shows you purchased. That strays away from this release. A reasonable person would buy this show to watch their content but you have already watched it so it doesn't matter to you now.

Also wth... this is strange... Most people complaining that their is inconsistency with their dvd now having a blu-ray case, but you are saying you bought the blu-ray. The package is of a blu-ray release! Well at least that is what I'm looking at. Plus you downloaded it... that doesn't come with a package, one would think it would be the ultimate disgrace, but of course it was free so beggars can't be choosers.

This argument is getting tiresome. If you actually knew me you wouldn't be saying the same thing so I'm done. I've posted my reasons for not buying this product at the moment several times and because I said one thing you disagree with you wont let it go. It doesn't matter anymore. If you want to think of me as an unreasonable person so be it. Just to clarify I bought the series on blu ray. While the movie is also on blu ray it comes in a dvd case which ruins the continuity of the packaging I was expecting. I'm planning to wait and see if this becomes resolved with a later release of the movie which I will gladly purchase. I have OCD about these things so it is not an excuse not to buy it because I have already seen it.

EyeOfPain
04-10-2011, 06:07 PM
The series was released in separate Blu-ray and DVD sized cases. Movie 1 contains both BD and DVD versions in a single DVD-sized case. Gundamcero purchased the series on Blu-ray (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1841075#post1841075).

Ah, from what I saw this combo pack looked like a blu-ray package slipcover. I saw the Blu-ray banner and what not. It looks like a BD release so what gives?/QUOTE]

Are you talking about the earlier art work, or the current artwork posted here (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/report.php?p=1876545)? The slipcover may have a Blu-ray/DVD combo banner, but it's most assuredly in a clear DVD-sized keepcase.

ExcelGenerations
04-10-2011, 06:15 PM
I have OCD about these things so it is not an excuse not to buy it because I have already seen it.

Tell that to the creators. The fact is you consumed a luxury item when it wasn't for free. It shouldn't matter that a package is different because you should want the show. But you seen it... see? Your OCD of having no movie should bother you more not an excuse like that. Plus what about your OCD on downloading the movie? You didn't get any package... It's a cop out.

gundamcero
04-10-2011, 06:19 PM
I have OCD about these things so it is not an excuse not to buy it because I have already seen it.

Tell that to the creators. The fact is you consumed a luxury item when it wasn't for free. It shouldn't matter that a package is different because you should want the show. But you seen it... see? Your OCD of having no movie should bother you more not an excuse like that. Plus what about your OCD on downloading the movie? You didn't get any package... It's a cop out.

Thanks for your understanding and listening to what i have to say.

Keith
04-10-2011, 06:45 PM
S O L U T I O N !:

Step 1- Buy the freakin' movie
Step 2- Buy some empty blu-ray cases (online, fry's, wherever)
Step 3- Take cover out of DVD size amaray, and fold the bottom, top, or a combination of both down to bluray case size
Step 4- Examine cardboard o-ring, and decide whether or not you want to trim it down to bluray case size, or discard it.
Step 5- Place bluray in your newly made bluray package
Step 6- Stop downloading illegal digital copies if you're just going to bitch about packaging decisions as an excuse not to buy in the future.
Step 7- Steal Underpants
Step 8- ???
Step 9- Profit!

gundamcero
04-10-2011, 06:48 PM
S O L U T I O N !:

Step 1- Buy the freakin' movie
Step 2- Buy some empty blu-ray cases (online, fry's, wherever)
Step 3- Take cover out of DVD size amaray, and fold the bottom, top, or a combination of both down to bluray case size
Step 4- Examine cardboard o-ring, and decide whether or not you want to trim it down to bluray case size, or discard it.
Step 5- Place bluray in your newly made bluray package
Step 6- Stop downloading illegal digital copies if you're just going to bitch about packaging decisions as an excuse not to buy in the future.
Step 7- Steal Underpants
Step 8- ???
Step 9- Profit!

I'll get right on that.

Devdan
04-10-2011, 10:25 PM
Is this discussion really taking place. This topic is like the polar opposite of what I see in every other anime forum, and it's only slightly less irritating. Is his reason for canceling the order dumb? Yes; but people have quirks, what can you do. It's hard to act like he's some kind of terrible criminal when he claims to have spent large sums of money on the industry. There are a lot, a lot, alotalotalot of people who never ever spend money on anime because 'lol you can get it free online'. Watching a fansub doesn't make you a thief any more than taking a DVD out of the library. Be glad he supports the majority of the anime he likes, because most people don't.

bored@lazy
04-10-2011, 10:37 PM
Personally my gripe isn't that he isn't purchasing it, even if I disagree with the reasoning it's not my place to tell him what to do with his money.
The issue I have is he's still keeping the fansubs on his PC, even when a legitimate release is readily available. But I've already said my bit, so I'm not going to pick on it anymore.

gundamcero
04-10-2011, 10:43 PM
Is this discussion really taking place. This topic is like the polar opposite of what I see in every other anime forum, and it's only slightly less irritating. Is his reason for canceling the order dumb? Yes; but people have quirks, what can you do. It's hard to act like he's some kind of terrible criminal when he claims to have spent large sums of money on the industry. There are a lot, a lot, alotalotalot of people who never ever spend money on anime because 'lol you can get it free online'. Watching a fansub doesn't make you a thief any more than taking a DVD out of the library. Be glad he supports the majority of the anime he likes, because most people don't.

Thanks for understanding. It has been kinda irritating.

LelouchLamperouge
04-10-2011, 10:44 PM
S O L U T I O N !:


Looking at the first two steps, I would have to get the movie for less than $12 to make it worth my money and time to spend another $10 on 5 blu-ray cases with S/H+tax incl. It looks like I'll have to wait for a price drop in a year or so to make it worthwhile. I guess I can wait a little bit longer, that is if I am still interested in anime. Or I could just downgrade/sell/trade-in my EotE blu set and get the DVD set, since Funi seems to like to punish continuity.

Keith
04-11-2011, 01:41 AM
S O L U T I O N !:


Looking at the first two steps, I would have to get the movie for less than $12 to make it worth my money and time to spend another $10 on 5 blu-ray cases with S/H+tax incl. It looks like I'll have to wait for a price drop in a year or so to make it worthwhile. I guess I can wait a little bit longer, that is if I am still interested in anime. Or I could just downgrade/sell/trade-in my EotE blu set and get the DVD set, since Funi seems to like to punish continuity.

Yes, that's what you should do. Buying the lower resolution version because the size of the box matches is definately the best option.

gundamcero
04-11-2011, 01:45 AM
S O L U T I O N !:


Looking at the first two steps, I would have to get the movie for less than $12 to make it worth my money and time to spend another $10 on 5 blu-ray cases with S/H+tax incl. It looks like I'll have to wait for a price drop in a year or so to make it worthwhile. I guess I can wait a little bit longer, that is if I am still interested in anime. Or I could just downgrade/sell/trade-in my EotE blu set and get the DVD set, since Funi seems to like to punish continuity.

Yes, that's what you should do. Buying the lower resolution version because the size of the box matches is definately the best option.

That's somthing I might consider.

lcummins
04-11-2011, 06:04 AM
So, I'm just curious... how is it you have any Blu-Rays at all? Didn't your OCD prevent you from buying BD when they first came out if your collection was all DVDs?

Haibara
04-11-2011, 09:06 AM
When I got the DVD I was a little upset about the case it was in.
I found out that you can buy the movie from amazon UK in the blu-ray case.
So I'm going to buy it and i might get a blu-ray case that can hold 3 disc.
Its not expensive either.

hikaru004
04-11-2011, 09:23 AM
When I got the DVD I was a little upset about the case it was in.
I found out that you can buy the movie from amazon UK in the blu-ray case.
So I'm going to buy it and i might get a blu-ray case that can hold 3 disc.
Its not expensive either.

oh that is an easier remedy. buy the uk version, wait for a funi sale and switch out the disc.

hikaru004
04-11-2011, 09:25 AM
So, I'm just curious... how is it you have any Blu-Rays at all? Didn't your OCD prevent you from buying BD when they first came out if your collection was all DVDs?

Not if you pack and store or sell all your dvds and only shelf the BDs or have a separate area for the DVDs.

joelgundam01
04-11-2011, 12:41 PM
S O L U T I O N !:

Step 1- Buy the freakin' movie
Step 2- Buy some empty blu-ray cases (online, fry's, wherever)
Step 3- Take cover out of DVD size amaray, and fold the bottom, top, or a combination of both down to bluray case size
Step 4- Examine cardboard o-ring, and decide whether or not you want to trim it down to bluray case size, or discard it.
Step 5- Place bluray in your newly made bluray package
Step 6- Stop downloading illegal digital copies if you're just going to bitch about packaging decisions as an excuse not to buy in the future.
Step 7- Steal Underpants
Step 8- ???
Step 9- Profit!

And you can always expand step 3:

- Take the cover and scan it.
- Use photo editing software and crop the image to BD case size.
- Print out the cover using photo paper.

gundamcero
04-11-2011, 01:35 PM
So, I'm just curious... how is it you have any Blu-Rays at all? Didn't your OCD prevent you from buying BD when they first came out if your collection was all DVDs?

Not if you pack and store or sell all your dvds and only shelf the BDs or have a separate area for the DVDs.

Separate areas as he said.

lcummins
04-11-2011, 04:36 PM
So, I'm just curious... how is it you have any Blu-Rays at all? Didn't your OCD prevent you from buying BD when they first came out if your collection was all DVDs?

Not if you pack and store or sell all your dvds and only shelf the BDs or have a separate area for the DVDs.

Separate areas as he said.

Well then, simple answer... put the BD size with the Blu-Rays and the DVD size with the DVDs. So what's the problem?

WTK
04-11-2011, 05:24 PM
A larger shot of the back cover. And for those who don't know already, Air Communication is English sub only.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5127/kingofeden.jpg

hikaru004
04-11-2011, 05:27 PM
So, I'm just curious... how is it you have any Blu-Rays at all? Didn't your OCD prevent you from buying BD when they first came out if your collection was all DVDs?

Not if you pack and store or sell all your dvds and only shelf the BDs or have a separate area for the DVDs.

Separate areas as he said.

Well then, simple answer... put the BD size with the Blu-Rays and the DVD size with the DVDs. So what's the problem?

Not saying that this is gundamcero's situation, say if you happen to be selling your DVDs and replacing them with BDs or a new collector that collects only BDs then you wouldn't have/want the option of placing DVDs with BDs. People who buy BDs aren't limited to just buying US titles and buy things other than anime (concerts, documentaries, live-action movies, etc). One can find inexpensive all region BD players now.

The only limitation now is whether or not a BD contains English subtitles if you don't understand Japanese or whether or not Japan, UK or Australia releases something to BD with English audio.

Devdan
04-11-2011, 06:18 PM
So, I'm just curious... how is it you have any Blu-Rays at all? Didn't your OCD prevent you from buying BD when they first came out if your collection was all DVDs?

Not if you pack and store or sell all your dvds and only shelf the BDs or have a separate area for the DVDs.

Separate areas as he said.

Well then, simple answer... put the BD size with the Blu-Rays and the DVD size with the DVDs. So what's the problem?

That's what I wound up doing. At least the case is nice looking.

AJMkarate717
04-12-2011, 01:13 PM
I just got my copy today, and I'm having a problem with the case - discs one and two won't stay on the hubs. I've contacted rightstuf about a replacement. Did anyone else have this problem?

Talyn
04-12-2011, 03:17 PM
Sounds like I should have a double disc m-lock ready for when this arrives.... :sd:

nekonene
04-12-2011, 05:04 PM
I just got my copy today, and I'm having a problem with the case - discs one and two won't stay on the hubs. I've contacted rightstuf about a replacement. Did anyone else have this problem?

Got mine yesterday and all the discs are secure on their hubs.. had a slight issue with the center flip tray not in its holder, but it went in with no problem.

I must say after finally looking over the packaging of the product in my hands, the outrage at the whole dvd/blu-ray combo thing is horribly over-blown and whoever is complaining about it should have their entire collection repackaged in Scanavo cases! :devil:

russ869
04-13-2011, 03:28 PM
Sounds like I should have a double disc m-lock ready for when this arrives.... :sd:

Make that triple disc. This comes with 3 discs. One DVD containing the movie, one DVD containing Air Communication (and maybe the other extras), and one BD containing everything.

VdubDdub
04-16-2011, 01:38 PM
I own every single Bluray release Funi has put out up to this point. Even if I wasn't crazy about the show, just to support future Bluray releases. I cancelled my preorder for this though. I really hope they don't release future FMA: Brotherhood, YuYu Hakusho, and Soul Eater like this because I will still buy them. I'm only buying my must-have shows and I will cancel everything else from this point on though. Voting with my wallet.

idunno
04-16-2011, 03:25 PM
Not expecting this new packaging/ combos for shows that are already in standard bluray packaging (FMA, YuYu Hakusho, etc). However, I'd expect them to change to this new packaging for new shows (Soul Eater, etc)

ZenErik
04-16-2011, 04:38 PM
I just wish they would use BD cases for these combo sets. :'(

MelancholicMariya
04-16-2011, 04:53 PM
Not expecting this new packaging/ combos for shows that are already in standard bluray packaging (FMA, YuYu Hakusho, etc). However, I'd expect them to change to this new packaging for new shows (Soul Eater, etc)

Soul Eater isn't a combo pack so I wouldn't expect it on that.

idunno
04-16-2011, 05:00 PM
You are correct and I agree.

Talyn
04-20-2011, 03:56 PM
Sounds like I should have a double disc m-lock ready for when this arrives.... :sd:

Make that triple disc. This comes with 3 discs. One DVD containing the movie, one DVD containing Air Communication (and maybe the other extras), and one BD containing everything.

Hm, I hadn't opened it yet...looks like I'll be making the dvd case order afterall...

stfram
04-20-2011, 07:10 PM
I think I'm going to avoid this entire packaging clusterfuck and wait for the inevitable complete collection that has the TV series and three movies packaged in one box.

I feel for Funi in this as they are slaves to the big box retailer that's currently left standing, but maybe they could offer a BD-only package at online retailers such as Amazon, and leave the EotE combo pack as a BB exclusive.

stfram
04-20-2011, 07:12 PM
I just wish they would use BD cases for these combo sets. :'(

And then folks that bought the DVD set would be pissed off.

Can't win...

Edit: for future releases like the "split" Eden releases they could use digipacks for everything. I like how the Back to the Future trilogy was handled on BD.

zerok
04-26-2011, 05:33 PM
Got this from Amazon today, pretty nice overall, case issues aside. The slipcover is really nice, but kinda loose once you unwrap the case, not as oversized as the Eva 2.22 slipcover, though. Can't wait to watch it! :bigsmile:

parakiss
04-26-2011, 07:49 PM
The cover art looks great. I can not wait to get this.

ZenErik
04-26-2011, 11:04 PM
I just wish they would use BD cases for these combo sets. :'(

And then folks that bought the DVD set would be pissed off.

Can't win...

Edit: for future releases like the "split" Eden releases they could use digipacks for everything. I like how the Back to the Future trilogy was handled on BD.
Eh, but BD is the more modern format. Even if I didn't own a BD player, I would put any BD/DVD combo packs I got in a separate section on my shelf.

Glorian
04-27-2011, 12:34 AM
I just wish they would use BD cases for these combo sets. :'(

And then folks that bought the DVD set would be pissed off.

Can't win...

Edit: for future releases like the "split" Eden releases they could use digipacks for everything. I like how the Back to the Future trilogy was handled on BD.
Eh, but BD is the more modern format. Even if I didn't own a BD player, I would put any BD/DVD combo packs I got in a separate section on my shelf.

But the point is, that's you. Lots of other people don't think that way.