New Code Geass projects [Was: Code Geass Gaiden Boukoku no Akito anime set for next year.]

[Fencedude]

Details (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-08-01/producer/next-season-of-code-geass-aimed-for-2012)

Set on the European front, seems it will take place simultaneously-ish with the first two seasons?

Could be interesting.

[MelancholicMariya]

I'm excited for it. Code Geass used to be my favourite anime, but then tons of other anime replaced it. I hope this new series gets me way back into Code Geass again.

And like the first series' of Code Geass, I want this to be a mess of crazy plot twists and action.

[Nagato-san]

I think this could be interesting. I love the Geass franchise in general, and I really have been hoping to see them maybe turn it into a Gundam style franchise. In that respect, I think this series will decide if Geass can survive without Taniguchi's direct involvement. If so, then great. If not, we'll probably see the series stay with the old cast/crew, and get "Code Geass: The Deviant Prophet" or some such in 10 years.

As for the premise, I think it's interesting. It's still a little too soon to revisit Lulu, CC, and Suzaku. Likewise, the what was shown and mentioned of the European front interested me. If done, I think this could be a fun litte side-story.

[something]

Will obviously watch. I'm with Nagato-san - I think the success of failure of this series could tell us a lot about whether there's life beyond Lulu for Code Geass. Assuming he's not in it, which seems reasonable because I don't think he spent much time in Europe at all in the previous seasons.

[Nagato-san]

Will obviously watch. I'm with Nagato-san - I think the success of failure of this series could tell us a lot about whether there's life beyond Lulu for Code Geass. Assuming he's not in it, which seems reasonable because I don't think he spent much time in Europe at all in the previous seasons.

I think that all we saw of the European front was brief scenes of Suzaku, Gino and Anya fighting with some Knightmare-frames in "Europe" at the beginning of R2. So we might see those three (and the other Knights) make some type of cameo.

With that said, I think this has prompted me to give CG a full-rewatch. I know It'll probably be awhile before this airs, but I've been meaning to for a while now.

[Rhodes]

so who will be the code user? and who will have geass? Werent the only 2 codes at the time was CC and VV?

Assuming this takes place in the anime universe and not the manga...

The following had geass...

Lelouch
Mao
Charles
Rolo
Marianne
Bismarck

All the follow kids from under VV's care but they all got killed in R2. Well if this takes place before R2 I guess they could appear. /shrug

CC's and VV's Geass seems to have gone poof when they got their Codes...

[Suzuku]

If this does well then Geass will be the new Gundam for Sunrise/Bandai. That's not to say Gundam will be kicked down the road or anything, just that they will now have two money printing series and Geass would be our generation's "classic" from Sunrise/Bandai.

That aside, it'll be interesting to see whether this takes the late night Thursday slot from Persona 4 in Spring or the Nichigo (Sunday 5pm) slot from Gundam AGE in the Fall. R2 didn't perform too stellar in the ratings in the Nichigo slot but the last 6 episodes all had good ratings and the disc sales were still astronomically high, so it's a possibility. If they give it the Thursday night slot, which was R1's slot, then it means they will just keep the franchise aimed solely at otaku.

[ibby]

I'm happy to see more Code Geass made, though hopefully it won't fall into the traps of Code Geass R2. I can't wait to see what merchandise comes out from this series.

[Westlo]

Is Gundam AGE confirmed to air for a year straight? If not it will be Spring 2012 MBS late night, Fall 2012 MBS late night or Fall 2012 Nichigo.

Nichigo lineup from this Fall onwards could be

Fall 2011 - Gundam AGE
Fall 2012 - Code Geass 3
Spring 2013 - Ao no Exorcist 2

In that respect, I think this series will decide if Geass can survive without Taniguchi's direct involvement.

Considering the rumors of how much they were forced to change from the original plan for the second season isn't R2 proof it can survive without Taniguchi ;p I still can't believe they haven't given Taniuguchi a gundam series, if anyone deserves it than without a doubt it's Taniguchi. Than again after what happened with R2 the last thing he probably wants to do is make another series how Sunrise want it done instead of what he would've liked. I hope he's not lost to anime... hopefully he can surprise us with a Scryed sequel in the near future... interesting to see Scryed characters in that PSP RPG mash up game... that + box set + movies using tv scenes + a few new ones...

[something]

Is Gundam AGE confirmed to air for a year straight? If not it will be Spring 2012 MBS late night, Fall 2012 MBS late night or Fall 2012 Nichigo.
Nichigo lineup from this Fall onwards could be
Fall 2011 - Gundam AGE
Fall 2012 - Code Geass 3
Spring 2013 - Ao no Exorcist 2
I'd bet on AGE being split into two 2-cour seasons, like 00, if it's going to be four cour.

[Fencedude]

I'd bet on AGE being split into two 2-cour seasons, like 00, if it's going to be four cour.

I'd like to see Age -> Origin -> Age -> Origin. I think that would give them two years worth of Gundam without unduly tiring people out.

[Draneor]

Is Gundam AGE confirmed to air for a year straight?

I think they indicated it would be for a year at the Sunrise panel at Otakon, if I recall. But it was in response to a question and there's always the chance the answer was mistranslated.

[zalder]

I would be interested in what type of changes he had to make in R2 that are causing controversy. This is the first I have heard of this, though I didn't follow the show that much when it first came out. The crazyness of the plot twists in R1 led me to drop it, I picked it up later though knowing what I was getting into and just enjoyed the ride. I didn't see that many changes in tone in R2, yes it took it to the extreme but then the show was always about going to the extreme...

Oh and come on, if there is any future for the show it has to be without lulu as he is dead...don't tell me we are still having that crazy argument.

[Nagato-san]

Considering the rumors of how much they were forced to change from the original plan for the second season isn't R2 proof it can survive without Taniguchi ;p I still can't believe they haven't given Taniuguchi a gundam series, if anyone deserves it than without a doubt it's Taniguchi. Than again after what happened with R2 the last thing he probably wants to do is make another series how Sunrise want it done instead of what he would've liked. I hope he's not lost to anime... hopefully he can surprise us with a Scryed sequel in the near future... interesting to see Scryed characters in that PSP RPG mash up game... that + box set + movies using tv scenes + a few new ones...

Oh, a new Scryed series would be so nice to have. I had forgotten how much new product was coming out for it. Ther's a new maga going for Scryed, so maybe something will come of that.

And I agree about Taniguchi. He needs to do a gundam series. Sadly, I don't think he's done much outside of acting as a producer since the Jungle Emperor Leo specials he directed years ago.

I would be interested in what type of changes he had to make in R2 that are causing controversy. This is the first I have heard of this, though I didn't follow the show that much when it first came out. The crazyness of the plot twists in R1 led me to drop it, I picked it up later though knowing what I was getting into and just enjoyed the ride. I didn't see that many changes in tone in R2, yes it took it to the extreme but then the show was always about going to the extreme...
If I remember correctly, the story goes that Taniguchi had written down the series plan for R2 completely. However, the producer then informed him that CGR2 would air in the Nichigo time slot. Having his series moved from a late-night slot to a dinner-time slot meant that he had to completely scrap everything due to:

A: Needing to catch new viewers in a new time slot up, and

B: Having to tone down what he was planing (and I don't know just what got toned down, but obviously he had stuff that was too much for an earlier time slot)

...So as I recall, he actually destroyed the old scripts in a fit of rage (though he may have just been exaggerating). Hence, we got the first half of R2, which was essentially a rehashing of the first series due to needing to make it more accessible to new viewers. Likewise, Sunrise/ Bandai made their usual plethora of demands to not kill certain folks off, include more mech, etc, for merchandise sales.

[Kusaja]

Oh, a new Scryed series would be so nice to have. I had forgotten how much new product was coming out for it. Ther's a new maga going for Scryed, so maybe something will come of that.

They did announce Sunrise is making a compilation feature with a few new scenes too, and I remember reading that Taniguchi was also involved in this. Not exactly the same thing as making a completely new series but it should be interesting to see how that turns out.

And I agree about Taniguchi. He needs to do a gundam series. Sadly, I don't think he's done much outside of acting as a producer since the Jungle Emperor Leo specials he directed years ago.

Personally, I think Taniguchi needs to do more shows, period, but more mecha shows would be nice too. GunxSword was pretty cool and actually felt like something of a prototype for Code Geass in more than one sense, particularly in terms of production staff and style. They're not remotely equal in content or anything but there are a few interesting parallels if you look for them (the protagonist seeks vengeance, the bad guy has a grand plan to change the world, plot twists change how people look at certain things, etc.).

If I remember correctly, the story goes that Taniguchi had written down the series plan for R2 completely.

My understanding is that they never had a complete plan nor did he literally "destroy" any actual scripts. I believe he and Okouchi just had some ideas and initial scripts for a couple of episodes, most of which they did end up having to scrap and go back to square one, but otherwise I think you're mostly on the right track. Hard to say much else about any specific details though.

[FUNiOP]

For some reason, I thought new Code Geass was confirmed for fall of this year. Anyway, I look forward to it.

[Buckeye]

Great to see more Code Geass coming out. Let's hope that Bandai can get it out as soon as they can.

[Westlo]

...So as I recall, he actually destroyed the old scripts in a fit of rage (though he may have just been exaggerating). Hence, we got the first half of R2, which was essentially a rehashing of the first series due to needing to make it more accessible to new viewers. Likewise, Sunrise/ Bandai made their usual plethora of demands to not kill certain folks off, include more mech, etc, for merchandise sales.

I remember reading he was absolutely livid after the first episode of R2 aired. It's a pity we'll never see what he originally planned for the last half of Geass. I think the only thing he got to really keep intact was how it ended.

I really don't think him being forced to change R2 and him not doing much since than is just a coincidence.. shame how Sunrise have treated him.. he was the best thing Sunrise had after the Bones split. Ryvius and Scryed were quality shows and hits, Planetes was just a great show and than he finally hit the major leagues with Geass.

I hope my gut feeling is right about an eventual sequel to Scryed is in the works....

[Suzuku]

I'd bet on AGE being split into two 2-cour seasons, like 00, if it's going to be four cour.
Like Draneor said, it was indicated that it would run for a straight year. If they were planning for it to be split 4-cour they would've probably announced along with the anime like they did with 00 and Horizon, but they didn't.

I'd like to see Age -> Origin -> Age -> Origin. I think that would give them two years worth of Gundam without unduly tiring people out.
I'm almost certain that Origin will be an OVA series like UC.

But it was in response to a question and there's always the chance the answer was mistranslated.
Nah, they clearly said "1年放送" at the event.

Either way, all this indicates that Boukoku no Akito will air in either Spring or Fall of next year, that's all that really matters.

[zalder]

...So as I recall, he actually destroyed the old scripts in a fit of rage (though he may have just been exaggerating). Hence, we got the first half of R2, which was essentially a rehashing of the first series due to needing to make it more accessible to new viewers. Likewise, Sunrise/ Bandai made their usual plethora of demands to not kill certain folks off, include more mech, etc, for merchandise sales.

I remember reading he was absolutely livid after the first episode of R2 aired. It's a pity we'll never see what he originally planned for the last half of Geass. I think the only thing he got to really keep intact was how it ended.

I really don't think him being forced to change R2 and him not doing much since than is just a coincidence.. shame how Sunrise have treated him.. he was the best thing Sunrise had after the Bones split. Ryvius and Scryed were quality shows and hits, Planetes was just a great show and than he finally hit the major leagues with Geass.

I hope my gut feeling is right about an eventual sequel to Scryed is in the works....

I really don't get the love for Scryed. I remember that show being pretty mindless. I mean it had ok fight scenes but the characters where incredibly static and we got a very unsatisfying reset ending. Yes it had good battle scenes but really so does Bleach and DBZ and though they are popular those are not really good shows...

[Nagato-san]

I really don't think him being forced to change R2 and him not doing much since than is just a coincidence.. shame how Sunrise have treated him.. he was the best thing Sunrise had after the Bones split. Ryvius and Scryed were quality shows and hits, Planetes was just a great show and than he finally hit the major leagues with Geass.

I hope my gut feeling is right about an eventual sequel to Scryed is in the works....

I agree with you, as I also remember he was interviewed about the whole affair sometime after Geass ended, and he mentioned that the ordeal discouraged him making any more. He may have even said that he considered quitting as a director. I wish I could find that interview again, but it's been 2-3 years since I read it and I can't quite seem to remember where it was.

I also think we'll get a sequel. While it's the 10th anniversary, we're still getting quite a bit of new product for it. A compilation with remastered and new footage, three S.H. Figuarts figures, and a new manga. Perhaps Sunrise/Bandai is trying to prod the market to see if there's still interest left for a sequel?


I really don't get the love for Scryed. I remember that show being pretty mindless. I mean it had ok fight scenes but the characters where incredibly static and we got a very unsatisfying reset ending. Yes it had good battle scenes but really so does Bleach and DBZ and though they are popular those are not really good shows...

Eh, an someways, this is basically going to be like the moe anime argument. Essentially this, Scryed is a fun show. I completely disagree with the notion that the characters were static.The characters and their motivations did change and evolve. Also, there was no reset ending, at all. Meh, I don't really think that I'm going to be able to say anything besides I like it. You have to be able to like over the top shows like Taniguchi's other masterpiece "Gun X Sword", or even stuff like Gurren Lagan or even Star Driver, to like Scryed. If you don't enjoy that kind of hot-blooded "moe" show, then you just won't get Scryed. :/

[zalder]

hmm I like gurren laggen the others I haven't seen, but I like gurren laggen more for its philosophy than anything else. Scryed ended with the main characters still fighting each other for no particular reason about the same way it began. Perhaps if I liked gurren laggen for its over the top fighting mostly I would like gurran laggen more, I don't know been a long time since I have watched it.

[Nagato-san]

hmm I like gurren laggen the others I haven't seen, but I like gurren laggen more for its philosophy than anything else. Scryed ended with the main characters still fighting each other for no particular reason about the same way it began. Perhaps if I liked gurren laggen for its over the top fighting mostly I would like gurran laggen more, I don't know been a long time since I have watched it.

What your missing is that Kazuma and Ryuho represent two different philosophies. Kazuma is a free spirit. He lives a life that is somewhat difficult, but he is also free. He can live in the way he feels is best, and can ultimately make his own decisions. Ryuho is more disciplined. He is an authoritarian, and believes that a rigid life provides the best results. The series mainly focuses on the conflict between these two men.

Why is it then, that even after Ryuho seems to understand that a simpler but more free life in the wilderness is better than his rigid authoritarian life in the city? The answer is that ultimately, the two felt that they did have to settle the score. We see Ryuho in his HOLY uniform again at the end. In the end, the two fight until they are down to biting each other and and throwing sand. The final minuets show us that years later they continue to fight. There is no end to their fight, just like there is no end to the conflict between those who wish to live a free life with limited rules and security, and those who wish for a rigid, secure lifestyle with many rules and little freedom.

Maybe I'm looking into too deep, or put transferring my personal views to the series. However, looking at other Taniguchi series, Gun X Sword has a very smiler theme about freedom versus authority. Code Geass is themed around the same themes, but also is somewhat of a critique on Machiavellianism, though I should rewatch Geass soon as that maybe inaccurate. I need to rewatch Infinite Ryvius to be able to say, as I last saw it in 2005.

I do hope nobody is offended by my interpretation on this, it's just that I feel that many of Goro Taniguchi's works are deeper than most give them credit for.

[something]

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=388085
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=388133
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=388197

Sheesh, avalanche of Geass news.

1) First episode of Akito will be shown in early summer. There will be more than one. Not sure that that means but I'm interpreting it as an OVA, then? You don't have to spell out "there will be more than one" for a TV series.
2) A movie has been announced, and the wording (movie of Hangyaku no Lelouch) implies it's a recap or retelling of the existing TV series.
3) An OVA "Nunnaly in Wonderland" has been announced

Oh and the cast of the Geass stage play is all male. Yes, male Euphemia and Kallen and CC... >_>

You know, I liked Code Geass. Really really did. But for some reason I'm only minimally interested in these. I guess side stories and OVAs and such just don't get me super excited. Or maybe it's too much at once to really digest. I'll probably watch some of them though.

[MelancholicMariya]

2) A movie has been announced, and the wording (movie of Hangyaku no Lelouch) implies it's a recap or retelling of the existing TV series.


If this is a recap, why? There are two recap specials for both the first season and R2 already. I'd much prefer a retelling though, similar to what Evangelion has been doing.

I'm an idiot for Code Geass so I'll more than likely get the OVA's and whatever that Nunnally in Wonderland is going to be.

[MelancholicMariya]

PV for Akito is out. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMP8czTf3Wo&feature=player_embedded)

Kind of unfitting music, but it sure looks pretty.

[strangefour]

PV for Akito is out. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMP8czTf3Wo&feature=player_embedded)

Kind of unfitting music, but it sure looks pretty.

Same old great character designs style. Good looking CG mecha combat for once. That can not be the right music. It just feels like someone put a random audio file over it.

[FUNiOP]

I love Code Geass, so I'm pretty excited about all this. I'm sure none of it will be anywhere as good as the real Code Geass, but I think I'll enjoy seeing some new content in that universe.

I could have sworn Akito was coming out this month, but I guess now the first episode will be coming out in the summer (barring any further delays), with no word on how many episodes there will be or what the gaps between them will be like. Of course, the other two were just announced, so there's no telling when they'll be out. Anyway, that PV sure looked pretty, and the music may not have fit Code Geass as well as the original music, but I loved what I heard, and a Yoko Kanno/Maaya Sakamoto theme sounds like a good call.

The idea of a movie has potential to be interesting. I would hope they do more than recaps, so a Rebuild-esque retelling might be the way to go, considering the OVAs will be covering the stories of others in that universe, the Wonderland one will have some extra content with existing characters, and there's no real room for a sequel or "between episodes X and Y" story.

Nunnally in Wonderland sounds as silly as intended. They did silly comedy pretty well in the series, so hopefully that can continue for this.

These are all a ways off, but I still find myself wondering what will happen for American releases of these. Hopefully Bandai can get them streaming as soon after their release as possible, and then license physical rights to another company. Under any other circumstances, it seems like FUNimation would be the company to step in and take over new Code Geass titles, but if Bandai wants to hang on to digital rights, that might not work out. Maybe it will be like when they license stuff that Crunchyroll streamed, and they'll just gain exclusive digital rights after a certain point. Crunchyroll seems like the place for these to potentially stream anyway, since Code Geass was already on there. Other than that, Sentai seems like the only possible company that might license these.

[Shirou Emiya]

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=388085
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=388133
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=388197

Sheesh, avalanche of Geass news.

1) First episode of Akito will be shown in early summer. There will be more than one. Not sure that that means but I'm interpreting it as an OVA, then? You don't have to spell out "there will be more than one" for a TV series.
2) A movie has been announced, and the wording (movie of Hangyaku no Lelouch) implies it's a recap or retelling of the existing TV series.
3) An OVA "Nunnaly in Wonderland" has been announced

Oh and the cast of the Geass stage play is all male. Yes, male Euphemia and Kallen and CC... >_>

You know, I liked Code Geass. Really really did. But for some reason I'm only minimally interested in these. I guess side stories and OVAs and such just don't get me super excited. Or maybe it's too much at once to really digest. I'll probably watch some of them though.

Thanks for the updates, hopefully FUNimation or someone else will bother to license these, since Bandai is basically dead in the U.S. now.

[Nagato-san]

2) A movie has been announced, and the wording (movie of Hangyaku no Lelouch) implies it's a recap or retelling of the existing TV series.


If this is a recap, why? There are two recap specials for both the first season and R2 already. I'd much prefer a retelling though, similar to what Evangelion has been doing.


I have actually been hoping they would do something like this for Geass. What I especially would like would be a series of movies that tighten up the story of R2, and actually explain things like what Freya was exactly.

As for the other stuff, We'll have to wait and see. I can tell that they are now going the Votoms route by doing spin-off OVA's. While the Nunnaly OVA has the potential to be interesting, and the Akito project trailer looked good, I'm not happy with the CGI mech. It looks better than what I saw from some of the newer Votoms OVA's, but I don't really get why it has to be done this way?