Nagi no Asu kara - next PA Works project

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http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh419/dtshyk/A1C7g2KCQAA0L7J.jpg
http://0taku.livedoor.biz/archives/4276508.html

At this point a PA Works announcement can't be a source of guaranteed excitement for me because I find them so incredibly hit or miss, but eh, there's always a chance.

Character designs will be from Buriki, so that's something I can look forward to. Okada Mari is the writer, which doesn't always work out for me but she hits a lot harder than she misses. It's also an original anime. I just really really really really hope it's not a romance again.

[Damius]

Well, I hope it will be one I will love enough to import this time.

[FUNiOP]

I'll keep an eye on it and watch it as it airs. I hope it's better than Tari Tari (okay, it's not their worst anymore, but it's... pretty close)! Okada as the writer could be extremely promising. Does it mention the director? Should be pretty anyway.

[HitokiriShadow]

P.A. Works + Okada Mari + Buriki? Oh yes, I am excited fort this.

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I'll keep an eye on it and watch it as it airs. I hope it's better than Tari Tari (okay, it's not their worst anymore, but it's... pretty close)! Okada as the writer could be extremely promising. Does it mention the director? Should be pretty anyway.

Shinohara Toshiya (http://myanimelist.net/people/5979/Toshiya_Shinohara).

Gunparade March
Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3
Kuroshitsuji
Inuyasha movies/specials/whatever
Lupin III movies/specials/whatever
Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra

And the upcoming Red Data Girl.

Not really a list that has much for me, besides Bantorra, which started weak and then somehow got kinda awesome.

[HitokiriShadow]

I'll keep an eye on it and watch it as it airs. I hope it's better than Tari Tari (okay, it's not their worst anymore, but it's... pretty close)! Okada as the writer could be extremely promising. Does it mention the director? Should be pretty anyway.

Shinohara Toshiya (http://myanimelist.net/people/5979/Toshiya_Shinohara).

Gunparade March
Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3
Kuroshitsuji
Inuyasha movies/specials/whatever
Lupin III movies/specials/whatever
Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra

And the upcoming Red Data Girl.

Not really a list that has much for me, besides Bantorra, which started weak and then somehow got kinda awesome.

Buriki makes up for any other shortcomings and uncertainties in the rest of the staff. Sure, its not exactly a surefire hit, especially when we know absolutely nothing the show, but I think there's enough to be a little excited about it. Of course, I really liked Hanasaku Iroha and am enjoying Tari Tari pretty well, so the "PA Works Original series" part does a lot more for me.

[Draneor]

I like Buriki's art, so that's a plus. I don't recall ever disliking P.A. Works' animation and Dengeki projects are usually a hit with me. The only series I can really judge Okada Mari off of is True Tears--which I enjoyed (I excluded ones she only wrote a few episodes for because I can't be bothered to look up the content of the exact episodes). I have NISA's AnoHana box-set which I would love to watch if Dell can ever ship me a working laptop (BD drive, etc)... Perhaps I'll understand then why a writer I've never heard of before a couple weeks ago is so controversial.

Overall, I'm excited, but I'd like to know more about the themes and story.

[superdry]

Exciting. I just have to wonder how well PA Works is going to adapt Buriki's designs, though.

[FUNiOP]

I'll keep an eye on it and watch it as it airs. I hope it's better than Tari Tari (okay, it's not their worst anymore, but it's... pretty close)! Okada as the writer could be extremely promising. Does it mention the director? Should be pretty anyway.

Shinohara Toshiya (http://myanimelist.net/people/5979/Toshiya_Shinohara).

Gunparade March
Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3
Kuroshitsuji
Inuyasha movies/specials/whatever
Lupin III movies/specials/whatever
Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra

And the upcoming Red Data Girl.

Not really a list that has much for me, besides Bantorra, which started weak and then somehow got kinda awesome.

Yeah, nothing notable. Bantorra never wowed me, so I'm not too excited. Still should be watchable.

[tadakichi]

Okada Mari doing series composition on an anime-original series is like the kiss of death for me, so I can't say I've got my hopes up. Haven't seen anything by the director except a couple of eps of Bantorra, which I hated, though with it being an adaptation I probably shouldn't blame him too much.

Eh, I'll still watch at least a couple of episodes anyway.

[Fencedude]

Yeah, nothing notable.

>Gunparade March
>Nothing notable

[Draneor]

Perhaps I'll understand then why a writer I've never heard of before a couple weeks ago is so controversial.

Well, I read a bunch of criticism on her past, present, and future work. I have a better idea what the controversy is. Kind of wish you could do a double blind randomized anime trial so see if if the hate is really based on the factors they say or if there is another reason (a lot of sexist or potentially sexist code words seem infect much of the criticism I've read). If they don't know who wrote it, would the same reaction occur? That could be an interesting experiment...

Well, provided Nagi no Asu kara isn't mecha or some other genre I generally dislike, I'm looking forward to it.

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If they don't know who wrote it, would the same reaction occur? That could be an interesting experiment...
I have no doubt this is the case. There are hardly any writers who have name recognition in the industry, so she just gets focused on because a series of major hits suddenly got her name lodged into fandom's consciousness. And since people always like to cry loudest about the shows everyone else is talking about, she gets attacked by proxy.

I don't like every show she's been script or series composition for, but the shows cover a huge range, from AnoHana to Basilisk to Fractale to Kodomo no Jikan to Otome Youkai Zakuro. Most of the people who complain seem to think she's only ever worked on melodrama like AnoHana and... ...well really that's the show people complain the most about, not coincidentally it's the best selling show she's been involved with.

It's no secret I don't like Hanasaku Iroha, and so her + PA Works, or PA Works + original anime isn't exactly a guaranteed win for me (well, Angel Beats! for PA + original but there's the whole Key/Maeda connection there, and as much as I looove the show it was still sloppy as hell). But shes done so much I do love that odds are better than 50% she'll do something I like. I just still hope it's not a HanaIro/TariTari traditional romance... however that's what sells for PA Works, so that's probably what it'll be.

I guess one other thing I'm wary of is that as much as I love a lot of what she's done, I've liked the adaptations a lot more than the original anime. Maybe that is a weakness of hers, outside of AnoHana which I loved. Not so hot on AKB, Fractale, or HanaIro.

[nakimushi]

I just still hope it's not a HanaIro/TariTari traditional romance... however that's what sells for PA Works, so that's probably what it'll be.

Sorry to quibble, but I completely understand that you did not like the Ohana/Kou romance part of HanaIro, but I would tend to disagree that that part of the show classifies the entire show as a "romance", there was a not only a lot more to HanaIro than just Ohana/Kou, there was a lot more to Ohana's character than her relationship with Kou, IMO.

I easily understand that a part of a show that a person really dislikes will tend to overshadow any other parts, but there was more to HanaIro than the part you really disliked, which if I remember correctly, caused you to drop the show near the midpoint.

Also, what romance in TariTari? If you referring to a plot development that has not yet aired, I will defer to you there, but although I 'm not enjoying it nearly as much as I did HanaIro, TariTari has been completely romance free.

I personally think that TariTari would have been better if it were not trying to tell 5 people's individual stories in 13 episodes, which has led to at times, breakneck pacing and inadequate characterization, but I'm waiting to see how it finishes before I decide to import it or not.

[HitokiriShadow]

I have no doubt this is the case. There are hardly any writers who have name recognition in the industry, so she just gets focused on because a series of major hits suddenly got her name lodged into fandom's consciousness. And since people always like to cry loudest about the shows everyone else is talking about, she gets attacked by proxy.

Well, she certainly has name recognition that most others do not, and that's part of it. So if people weren't really familiar with her name (like probably a few other female writers and directors out there), she wouldn't be getting harped on this way. Most of the time, people don't have a clue who even wrote/directed/whatever a show.

But it really goes beyond that. Misogyny is a big factor. The word "misandry" and "emasculation" comes up (from people that write hilarious posts like these about how badly boys are treated in anime (http://www.lostinanime.com/2012/08/are-guys-treated-badly-in-anime-and-if.html)) frequently in what can generously be called "criticism" of her work, and she's been subjected to a degree of psychoanalysis that I've never seen any male creative worker in the anime industry subjected. Some of it gets downright bizarre. Male anime writers would make better male characters and stories if the mystical forces of the anime industry weren't keeping them from writing what they really want to write, but Okada Mari has free reign to do whatever she wants and everything in a show she writes must be a manifestation of her "issues"; this at the same time that something SHE WAS NOT ALLOWED TO WRITE (AnoHana as a fanservice show) is used as one of the big points against her.

Even freaking Yamakan was not subjected to the things she is. People call him or other disliked writers (the Guilty Crown person, don't remember the name) "terrible" and "hacks" and leave it at that.

I don't like every show she's been script or series composition for, but the shows cover a huge range, from AnoHana to Basilisk to Fractale to Kodomo no Jikan to Otome Youkai Zakuro. Most of the people who complain seem to think she's only ever worked on melodrama like AnoHana and... ...well really that's the show people complain the most about, not coincidentally it's the best selling show she's been involved with.


People tend to take particular issue with her non-adaptation works. AnoHana is a big one, but Lupin III and Hanasaku Iroha come up frequently as well

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Sorry to quibble, but I completely understand that you did not like the Ohana/Kou romance part of HanaIro, but I would tend to disagree that that part of the show classifies the entire show as a "romance", there was a not only a lot more to HanaIro than just Ohana/Kou, there was a lot more to Ohana's character than her relationship with Kou, IMO.
I don't want to take this too off topic and don't much like talking about why I don't like a show but to address your points: Not just that, but also kitchen guy and that whole love triangle (or whatever shape it ended up being). Of course there are other story elements, but the girls were in a large way defined by their romantic feelings (or misunderstandings about their feelings) for guys, and that is something I only find engaging or interesting in certain shows, one of which wasn't HanaIro. Romance has a way of crowding out and filtering other elements through itself which amplifies its impact. In any case, remove the guys, and HanaIro had the makings of an import. Tari Tari is better overall, but I'd still be shocked to see it not pair off two girls with the guys, who I find uninteresting at best. I find it very difficult to get emotionally invested in the show because of that. Even if that turns out to be an unfounded fear, there's still the problem that the only character I really care about is Konatsu (Sawa is cute but not show-saving) and the story is largely done with her already since there's only barely enough time for the four other arcs. If I'm not sufficiently into the show at this point, I honestly can't think of any way that my opinion would improve once they move on to the guys. Hence why I'm close to dropping it.

Anyway. The shows are only relevant here as past reference points that may be indicative of what Nagi no Asu kara will contain, and if so I'm not personally enthusiastic. But they may also be nothing like it whatsoever. We'll see.

[Draneor]

Well, she certainly has name recognition that most others do not, and that's part of it. [...]Most of the time, people don't have a clue who even wrote/directed/whatever a show.

I agree. I rarely care which staff makes an anime. But I am curious why she is known (which is partially why I wish I could run that experiment). Also, whether this is a English-only thing.

People tend to take particular issue with her non-adaptation works. AnoHana is a big one, but Lupin III and Hanasaku Iroha come up frequently as well

I didn't see a lot of criticism of AnoHana (the final script--not her original one which no one has actually read). It seems the four titles she's done that were universally praised were TrueTears, AnoHana, ToraDora, and Wandering Son. However, it was common to express sentiment that AnoHana was only good because the director reigned her in (in-spite of her getting pissed off--paraphrase of their words not mine) and she gets no credit for the last two because whatever is good in them is attributed to the original work. I also didn't see any criticism of Canvas2 because, well, no one other than me actually watched it. I suppose my point is, other than TrueTears, even when her critics like her work she doesn't get credit.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAc9KKUMTAc

Looks decent I guess. Presumably it's a love triangle story. I suppose I'll check it out for cute girl in water.

[Damius]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAc9KKUMTAc


Well, the PV was ok. I hope this time I will like more the P.A. Works project...