View Full Version : AoD Advance Review: Angelic Layer Vol. #7
Chris Beveridge
06-11-2004, 08:57 AM
Review (http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/3045.php)
I want to see this disc tremendously. I need to know what happens.
Suwako Moriya
06-11-2004, 09:04 AM
Definite positives from me as I am a fan of the anime. I just need to collect it eventually. But right now other series are ahead of it. Either way if I remember right the final episodes are emotional and some of the resolutions are pretty nice. But that's all I'll say.
Jigen_Daisuke
06-11-2004, 09:11 AM
I was one of the early proponents of the show on these forums.
Double positive.
EmperorBrandon
06-11-2004, 09:25 AM
Can't wait to see this one, though I still have another week and a half to go before mine arrives. This has been a great series so far, so I'm really looking foward to seeing how it ends.
Rogueman_8
06-11-2004, 09:26 AM
Truly, a very good and fun series. Enjoyed watching it all again. This series will get a lot a playback on my player. This volume was awesome and has the best fights.
bakafoo
06-11-2004, 11:08 AM
I'll be rewatching this series as soon as I get and finish the last disc.. Got to relive the memories of the AL-world. /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif
Everyone who worked on this series here had so much fun and enjoyed it so much, we were sad to see it over. I hope everyone else enjoys it half as much as we did.
O-chan
06-11-2004, 12:47 PM
I really want to see this disc now that I'm getting close to finishing up the manga. I especially want to see the commentary.
O-chan
[ QUOTE ]
O-chan said:
I really want to see this disc now that I'm getting close to finishing up the manga. I especially want to see the commentary.
O-chan
[/ QUOTE ]
The commentary was an interesting experiment for me. Waiting to see how it does.
Innotech
06-11-2004, 02:29 PM
I actually plan to pick up all or most of Angelic layer next month. First 2 eps really impressed me
pumpkinsmoke
06-11-2004, 02:33 PM
Angelic Layer is one of my favorite animes, with a lot of replay value. It's a fun series that everyone (including my little cousins) can watch. I was disappointed with the manga but the anime definately made me an angelic layer fan. Many times I'm a huge fan of the series and then the ending kills it for me. But I liked how they wrapped it up. Definate positives for both.
Njr Scrawl
06-11-2004, 02:41 PM
[ QUOTE ]
vegeta11 said:
I want to see this disc tremendously. I need to know what happens.
[/ QUOTE ]
Got it, watched it! Now I'm going to watch all 7 again over this weekend. Want a Hikaru figure!
toffoli
06-11-2004, 02:46 PM
[ QUOTE ]
dlw said:
[ QUOTE ]
O-chan said:
I really want to see this disc now that I'm getting close to finishing up the manga. I especially want to see the commentary.
O-chan
[/ QUOTE ]
The commentary was an interesting experiment for me. Waiting to see how it does.
[/ QUOTE ]
Ooo <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>video</span> commentary. I was wondering what you were alluding to on the last disc. I can't wait to try it out! Hurry up Digitaleyes and mail it out to me (I know you can cus it shows in stock /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif).
Fencedude
06-11-2004, 02:47 PM
I've always loved this series, and I'm glad to see that everyone else loves the ending.
SpoilerHappy
06-14-2004, 05:26 PM
Wow, what a great show! Just got disk 7 today and watched it through. Great battles and good episode where <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Misaki and her mom finally meet</span>.
Did Shuko ever give<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Icchan an answer</span>? I can't believe <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>he finally asked her! Go Icchan!</span>
chrono1975
06-14-2004, 05:34 PM
[ QUOTE ]
SpoilerHappy said:
Wow, what a great show! Just got disk 7 today and watched it through. Great battles and good episode where <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Misaki and her mom finally meet</span>.
Did Shuko ever give<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Icchan an answer</span>? I can't believe <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>he finally asked her! Go Icchan!</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
You guys are lucky!!
I have to wait till next week to pick up my
reserved copy.
cregbr
06-15-2004, 07:27 PM
Loved it, loved it, LOVED IT! Good action, interesting characters, emotional moments but not overbearingly so.
Even though the ending is fairly complete, I want a follow-up OVA. I know it's unlikely to happenn, but wouldn't seeing the following be great?
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>
* Angel fights with OVA budget and love
* Misaki dealing with her new-found fame
* Misaki dealing with being the champion, not the underdog
* Alice vs. Misaki on the layer
* If Icchan and Shuko hook up?
* If Ojiro and Misaki do?
</span>
Seems like more than enough for a follow-up OVA or even a short series. /images/graemlins/happy.gif
Kamina
I can't wait for this disk. I had to reorder my copy due to a credit card mixup. /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif Hopefully they will ship it tommorow so that I can get it by Saturday.
I would say that the <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Shuko and Icchan situtation was cleared up in Chobits which only took place a few years after Angelic Layer.</span>
Fencedude
06-16-2004, 12:49 AM
[ QUOTE ]
tim99 said:
I would say that the <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Shuko and Icchan situtation was cleared up in Chobits which only took place a few years after Angelic Layer.</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>The Chobits/Angelic Layer crossover ONLY occurs in their mangas, the Chobits and Angelic Layer anime are NOT related. </span>
pianocello
06-16-2004, 03:08 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Kamina said:
Loved it, loved it, LOVED IT! Good action, interesting characters, emotional moments but not overbearingly so.
Even though the ending is fairly complete, I want a follow-up OVA. I know it's unlikely to happenn, but wouldn't seeing the following be great?
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>
* Angel fights with OVA budget and love
* Misaki dealing with her new-found fame
* Misaki dealing with being the champion, not the underdog
* Alice vs. Misaki on the layer
* If Icchan and Shuko hook up?
* If Ojiro and Misaki do?
</span>
Seems like more than enough for a follow-up OVA or even a short series. /images/graemlins/happy.gif
Kamina
[/ QUOTE ]
If they were to make a followup, they may probably show <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>the shocking death of Kaede and its impact on everyone. </span>
SpoilerHappy
06-16-2004, 06:57 AM
[ QUOTE ]
tim99 said:
I would say that the <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Shuko and Icchan situtation was cleared up in Chobits which only took place a few years after Angelic Layer.</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
And that would be???????????????
SpoilerHappy
06-16-2004, 06:59 AM
[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
If they were to make a followup, they may probably show <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>the shocking death of Kaede and its impact on everyone. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
You're mean! That didn't really happen in the manga, did it? /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif
michaelwb
06-16-2004, 08:29 AM
[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
If they were to make a followup, they may probably show <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>the shocking death of Kaede and its impact on everyone. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
Don't even joke about that! She and Ringo are goddesses and therefore are sacred!
Fencedude
06-16-2004, 10:23 AM
[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
If they were to make a followup, they may probably show <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>the shocking death of Kaede and its impact on everyone. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
Once again <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> the Chobits/Angelic Layer connection is ONLY in the mangas. </span>
Dwight
06-16-2004, 10:08 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Fencedude said:
[ QUOTE ]
tim99 said:
I would say that the <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Shuko and Icchan situtation was cleared up in Chobits which only took place a few years after Angelic Layer.</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>The Chobits/Angelic Layer crossover ONLY occurs in their mangas, the Chobits and Angelic Layer anime are NOT related. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> Then the appearances of Icchan and Kaede in pictures of deceased persons in Chobits are not significant? Why reuse those particular character designs from Angelic Layer if something wasn't meant? </span>
Fencedude
06-16-2004, 10:37 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Deklane said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> Then the appearances of Icchan and Kaede in pictures of deceased persons in Chobits are not significant? Why reuse those particular character designs from Angelic Layer if something wasn't meant? </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
A) <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> The anime was adapting designs from the manga </span>
B) <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> Clamp is ALWAYS reusing character designs. Look at a lot of the angels. </span>
C) <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> The main strike against it is how far the Chobits and AL anime diverge from their respective mangas. Especially Angelic Layer, it is profoundly different from it manga. </span>
D) <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> Shuuko looks NOTHING like the manager lady (forgot her name) </span>
tiferriffic
06-17-2004, 12:08 AM
Quote:
piano_cello_conducting said:
If they were to make a followup, they may probably show <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>the shocking death of Kaede and its impact on everyone.
</span>
I fell out of my chair when I read that!!! /images/graemlins/shy00000.gif Don't do that... I think I'd cry ... but the chance to revisit this show and the characters would be incredible.
By the way I second what dlw said about the cast and the show, I hope you all enjoy it!
EmperorBrandon
06-17-2004, 01:29 AM
Dang, so many spoilers tags popping up around here. Makes me want this one even more. Hoping it will ship and get to me soon...
pianocello
06-17-2004, 01:46 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Fencedude said:
[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
If they were to make a followup, they may probably show <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>the shocking death of Kaede and its impact on everyone. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
Once again <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> the Chobits/Angelic Layer connection is ONLY in the mangas. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
Only for some of it. This is one plot point that could easily be used in an anime sequel as <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Kaede's death </span>would give the show a much-needed dramatic tearjerking punch.
Dwight
06-17-2004, 02:08 AM
[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
[ QUOTE ]
Fencedude said:
[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
If they were to make a followup, they may probably show <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>the shocking death of Kaede and its impact on everyone. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
Once again <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> the Chobits/Angelic Layer connection is ONLY in the mangas. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
Only for some of it. This is one plot point that could easily be used in an anime sequel as <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Kaede's death </span>would give the show a much-needed dramatic tearjerking punch.
[/ QUOTE ]
I took a look at the last volume of Chobits just now to refresh my memory. The character in question has the same personal name and character design in both Chobits and Angelic Layer, but different family names. That seems to relegate the whole thing to the realm of "Things That Make You Go Hmmm" while still raising the question of "What Did They Mean By That If Anything At All?"
--Dwight (26 episodes into Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon and thinking Dark Mercury is actually an improvement)
[ QUOTE ]
EmperorBrandon said:
Dang, so many spoilers tags popping up around here. Makes me want this one even more. Hoping it will ship and get to me soon...
[/ QUOTE ]
I can say without hesitation that Volume 7 will more than live up to any expectations you might have, Brandon. It's exceptional! I can think of one performance that should likely give you something more to think about when it comes to June award votes, too. /images/graemlins/wink.gif
pianocello
06-17-2004, 09:57 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Deklane said:
[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
[ QUOTE ]
Fencedude said:
[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
If they were to make a followup, they may probably show <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>the shocking death of Kaede and its impact on everyone. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
Once again <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> the Chobits/Angelic Layer connection is ONLY in the mangas. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
Only for some of it. This is one plot point that could easily be used in an anime sequel as <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Kaede's death </span>would give the show a much-needed dramatic tearjerking punch.
[/ QUOTE ]
I took a look at the last volume of Chobits just now to refresh my memory. The character in question has the same personal name and character design in both Chobits and Angelic Layer, but different family names. That seems to relegate the whole thing to the realm of "Things That Make You Go Hmmm" while still raising the question of "What Did They Mean By That If Anything At All?"
--Dwight (26 episodes into Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon and thinking Dark Mercury is actually an improvement)
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> The manga explains that the siblings were later raised by different families and hence the different family names. </span>
[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
[ QUOTE ]
Deklane said:
[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
[ QUOTE ]
Fencedude said:
[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
If they were to make a followup, they may probably show <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>the shocking death of Kaede and its impact on everyone. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
Once again <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> the Chobits/Angelic Layer connection is ONLY in the mangas. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
Only for some of it. This is one plot point that could easily be used in an anime sequel as <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Kaede's death </span>would give the show a much-needed dramatic tearjerking punch.
[/ QUOTE ]
I took a look at the last volume of Chobits just now to refresh my memory. The character in question has the same personal name and character design in both Chobits and Angelic Layer, but different family names. That seems to relegate the whole thing to the realm of "Things That Make You Go Hmmm" while still raising the question of "What Did They Mean By That If Anything At All?"
--Dwight (26 episodes into Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon and thinking Dark Mercury is actually an improvement)
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> The manga explains that the siblings were later raised by different families and hence the different family names. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Wasn't it a divorce? Kaede went with the mom and Minoru went with the dad. However, when you see Kaede's family, you don't see a little boy. Perhaps Minoru hasn't been born yet? Just for fun, I'd like to see a Minoru+Hatoko matchup.</span>
Fencedude
06-19-2004, 09:26 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Mark said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Wasn't it a divorce? Kaede went with the mom and Minoru went with the dad. However, when you see Kaede's family, you don't see a little boy. Perhaps Minoru hasn't been born yet? Just for fun, I'd like to see a Minoru+Hatoko matchup.</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> As far as I'm concerned, Minoru doesn't exist in the Angelic Layer anime. There is absolutely NO reference to him AT ALL. The manga had those "newspaper headlines" that reffered to him at points, but the anime production company decided not to include that stuff, and that is where much of the information for the Chobits crossover comes from. </span>
[ QUOTE ]
Fencedude said:
[ QUOTE ]
Mark said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Wasn't it a divorce? Kaede went with the mom and Minoru went with the dad. However, when you see Kaede's family, you don't see a little boy. Perhaps Minoru hasn't been born yet? Just for fun, I'd like to see a Minoru+Hatoko matchup.</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> As far as I'm concerned, Minoru doesn't exist in the Angelic Layer anime. There is absolutely NO reference to him AT ALL. The manga had those "newspaper headlines" that reffered to him at points, but the anime production company decided not to include that stuff, and that is where much of the information for the Chobits crossover comes from. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> Newspaper headlines? I never read the AL manga, what's that about? </span>
Fencedude
06-19-2004, 09:51 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Mark said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> Newspaper headlines? I never read the AL manga, what's that about? </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> At the beginning of the manga volumes (except volume 1) there are newspaper pages shown, where you can read complete or partial articles about Angelic Layer, there are also a number of CLAMP references in them. Here are some from volume 2 (I only have volumes 1 and 2 of the manga.
There is a full article about Hatoko
Down at the bottom you can see the headline "Young Students Invade Town Seeking "Clow Cards""
On one side, cut off by the edge of the book you can make out the words "Chobit" and "Persocom"
There is also an article about three girls vanishing from Tokyo Tower. </span>
Sapphire
06-19-2004, 11:57 AM
The headlines are not in the original Japanese manga.
Mariela
Fencedude
06-19-2004, 12:00 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Sapphire said:
The headlines are not in the original Japanese manga.
Mariela
[/ QUOTE ]
Ah, I see.
My mistake.
Thanks for the info. Sounds a lot like the newspaper articles in the Steam Detectives manga.
jeditictac
06-20-2004, 12:33 PM
overall i really enjoyed this series and i'm super glad i bought it...
however, i didn't much care for <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>hikaru beting athena. i get the whole because misaki believed in hikaru so much aspect, but i just got kinda annoyed when hikaru was down to 1 little bar of strength and athena still had like half and athena's attack-which hikaru survived- ?and hikaru's couter? managed to totally stop athena who had been the champion for 3 years. i guess it's just me. it wasn't that hikaru won cause i would've been okay with that, it was just how her winning played out that kinda bothered me. </span> anyway other than that minor thing i felt it was an excellent ending
Fluffy
06-20-2004, 02:26 PM
Great series. Ending wasn't well handled well in some spots and seemed a bit rushed, but overall, a great series. Worth buying once.
PsychoRabbitt
06-22-2004, 04:23 PM
*sniff*
This just came in the mail today, and I had to watch it. The last episode just ended and I'm still a bit teary eyed. The ending was just so beautiful and appropriate.
I want another season, or at least a follow up OVA!
PsychoRabbitt
06-22-2004, 04:26 PM
[ QUOTE ]
SpoilerHappy said:
Did Shuko ever give<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Icchan an answer</span>? I can't believe <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>he finally asked her! Go Icchan!</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
Those were my thoughts exactly! <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Shuko, give him an answer!! So what if he was dressed as Athena!</span> /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
PsychoRabbitt
06-22-2004, 04:28 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Fencedude said:
[ QUOTE ]
tim99 said:
I would say that the <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Shuko and Icchan situtation was cleared up in Chobits which only took place a few years after Angelic Layer.</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>The Chobits/Angelic Layer crossover ONLY occurs in their mangas, the Chobits and Angelic Layer anime are NOT related. </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Then I guess I better get to ordering the mangas. I want to know what happened. LOL</span>
Fencedude
06-22-2004, 04:35 PM
[ QUOTE ]
PsychoRabbitt said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Then I guess I better get to ordering the mangas. I want to know what happened. LOL</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
I wouldn't bother, the AL Manga really sucks.
Njr Scrawl
06-22-2004, 04:37 PM
[ QUOTE ]
PsychoRabbitt said:
*sniff*
This just came in the mail today, and I had to watch it. The last episode just ended and I'm still a bit teary eyed. The ending was just so beautiful and appropriate.
I want another season, or at least a follow up OVA!
[/ QUOTE ]
Movie! X had one, CCS had 2! An AL movie would be just right /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif
EmperorBrandon
06-22-2004, 04:50 PM
I just got this one in the mail today, too, and can't wait to watch it. /images/graemlins/happy.gif My sister usually wants to watch these with me, so I'll have to tell her before I watch.
[ QUOTE ]
EmperorBrandon said:
I just got this one in the mail today, too, and can't wait to watch it. /images/graemlins/happy.gif My sister usually wants to watch these with me, so I'll have to tell her before I watch.
[/ QUOTE ]
<passes Brandon a box of kleenex> You'll be needing this. /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif
[ QUOTE ]
Njr Scrawl said:
Movie! X had one, CCS had 2! An AL movie would be just right /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif
[/ QUOTE ]
With the budget possibilities of a movie, I want to see either a tag-team fight or a free-for-all. And maybe set it a few years after the series so we can see whether or not Misaki now has a little brother or sister.
Dwight
06-23-2004, 01:08 AM
One thing did kinda bother me. <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> The climactic battle of Athena vs. Hikaru takes place after Misaki finds out Shu is her mother. So the final battle comes down to, "I love you, Misaki!' POW! 'I love you, too, Mom!" WHAM! Sure, they're not actually fighting in their own persons, but with robot doll surrogates, only that lets them take the violence level even higher. "I've missed you so much, Mom - taste the boot of Hikaru!" "I'm so sorry I didn't see you for seven years, Misaki! PILEDRIVER!" There just seemed to be a very high weirdness factor about it all. Dramatically, I suppose having Misaki find out before the fight allows the series to cover all the personal issues in the episode before the last, so they can end the series on an exciting high note with the climactic battle and clear everybody off the stage as soon as it's over, rather than try to cram all the shocking revelations and issue resolution into the last five minutes following the battle and wind the series down with all the confrontations and explanations and exposition. </span> But that last fight just seemed...strange.
--Dwight
michaelwb
06-23-2004, 08:48 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Deklane said:
One thing did kinda bother me. <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> The climactic battle of Athena vs. Hikaru takes place after Misaki finds out Shu is her mother. So the final battle comes down to, "I love you, Misaki!' POW! 'I love you, too, Mom!" WHAM! Sure, they're not actually fighting in their own persons, but with robot doll surrogates, only that lets them take the violence level even higher. "I've missed you so much, Mom - taste the boot of Hikaru!" "I'm so sorry I didn't see you for seven years, Misaki! PILEDRIVER!" There just seemed to be a very high weirdness factor about it all. Dramatically, I suppose having Misaki find out before the fight allows the series to cover all the personal issues in the episode before the last, so they can end the series on an exciting high note with the climactic battle and clear everybody off the stage as soon as it's over, rather than try to cram all the shocking revelations and issue resolution into the last five minutes following the battle and wind the series down with all the confrontations and explanations and exposition. </span> But that last fight just seemed...strange.
--Dwight
[/ QUOTE ]
Oh, I hear you and the thought occurred to me also. I tend to think of that last fight as the Quiet Man for girls. That was a John Wayne movie where he and another man are on each other's cases for the majority of the movie. Then they have long fist fight all over the landscape with the townspeople following them and cheering. When it's over they're buddies....
On other's notes. I so loved this last volume the scene where mother and daughter are crying, I'm crying with them.
When it ended after the great end credits on the last episode and wonderful epilogue; I actually applauded! Which is odd because I was alone in my room, but I couldn't help myself.
I want a followup OAV for the wedding of Ichan!!!
EmperorBrandon
06-24-2004, 02:00 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Kamina said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>* If Ojiro and Misaki do?</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>I hope not. I still didn't felt like I cared much about Ohjiro after Vol. 6 (not enough to back off from my support of Misaki and Kotaro pairing). At least the final volume showed that Kotaro still has feelings for Misaki.</span>
EmperorBrandon
06-24-2004, 02:12 AM
[ QUOTE ]
B-Rad Lascelle said:
<passes Brandon a box of kleenex> You'll be needing this. /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif
[/ QUOTE ]
The thing is, even though I'm a somewhat sensitive person, I've never cried at an anime series (or any other entertainment piece for that matter). There are moments where tears comes to my eyes, though. In particular as far as AL goes, those <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>flashback moments with Misaki always get me very teary-eyed, seeing that poor little girl having to say good-bye to her mom and also writing that letter /images/graemlins/sad.gif I was definitely happy that Misaki and Shuko got to clear things up before the final battle. It was really sweet.</span>
O-chan
06-24-2004, 07:22 AM
[ QUOTE ]
EmperorBrandon said:
[ QUOTE ]
B-Rad Lascelle said:
<passes Brandon a box of kleenex> You'll be needing this. /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif
[/ QUOTE ]
The thing is, even though I'm a somewhat sensitive person, I've never cried at an anime series (or any other entertainment piece for that matter). There are moments where tears comes to my eyes, though. In particular as far as AL goes, those <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>flashback moments with Misaki always get me very teary-eyed, seeing that poor little girl having to say good-bye to her mom and also writing that letter /images/graemlins/sad.gif I was definitely happy that Misaki and Shuko got to clear things up before the final battle. It was really sweet.</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
You know what I'm happy about?
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>That Shuko isn't a spaz like she is in the manga. At least the anime gave her a legitimate reason for her actions making her a much more real and sympathetic character. I don't know what the hell CLAMP was thinking with the manga but it seems that while other CLAMP animes diverge a "little" from the manga Angelic Layer is a whole nother species.</span>
O-chan
MalrocK
06-24-2004, 09:23 AM
I must be the only one that feels that the manga ending was a lot better, and more believable, than the anime ending /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif. Anyway, it was a great show /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif. I got a little bored with it from disc 3 to 5 but my interest peaked back up towards the end. It was a little too sappy for me at times but I still liked it a lot.
EmperorBrandon
06-24-2004, 11:13 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Malrock said:
I must be the only one that feels that the manga ending was a lot better, and more believable, than the anime ending /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif
[/ QUOTE ]
Care to spoil me on the manga ending? I'm curious, and I probably won't be reading the manga anytime soon (as I'm not much of a manga reader)
MalrocK
06-24-2004, 11:27 AM
[ QUOTE ]
EmperorBrandon said:
[ QUOTE ]
Malrock said:
I must be the only one that feels that the manga ending was a lot better, and more believable, than the anime ending /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif
[/ QUOTE ]
Care to spoil me on the manga ending? I'm curious, and I probably won't be reading the manga anytime soon (as I'm not much of a manga reader)
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>
Hmmmm.... well I have to go back and re-read it to get all the details but here is what I remember. Misaki's mom doesn't have any of the leg problems that she has in the anime. In the manga she is just a woman that is devoted to her work and scared to death of being with her child. She beats Misaki in the championship match of Angelic Layer and then moves in with Misaki and her sister. It's funny because she doesn't know the first thing about being a mom and she's so terrified of Misaki that she can't even speak to her. Hmmm, I believe Misaki & Kotaro get together while Tamayo gets together with Ohjiro...... I'll repost a more detailed response when I get home /images/graemlins/happy.gif
</span>
UsadaHikaru
06-24-2004, 01:08 PM
Well I just got done marathoning the last disc and my only disappointment is that not all the relationship stuff is tied up. The manga had Misaki/Ogata notes in the last two volumes so I was hoping for something of the same here.
Oh and am I the only one that likes the manga? It's not a tearjerker like the show but for comedy it can't be beat. Icchan had lots more fun time in the books. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
It would be hard to do another season of this but why not a world tournament (nothing cheesey like G Gundam)? It could take place a year or so afterwards so there could be a world champ in place so Misakichi could still be a kind of underdog.
Blah now I gotta find time to rewatch this show cause it's to good to see only once!
Innotech
06-24-2004, 05:02 PM
this thread is so spoilerific ^^
Well I caved in and bought vol 1+art box and vol 2-4 as well and they are on their way here as I speak. I do plan on attaining the entire series by end of July so Ill be picking up vol 7 soon enough. then these spoiler happy pages wont tempt me so. Onwe hting is for sure, I LOVE that AMV of angelic layer to SOAD's Chop suey.
Fencedude
06-24-2004, 05:07 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Innotech said:
this thread is so spoilerific ^^
Well I caved in and bought vol 1+art box and vol 2-4 as well and they are on their way here as I speak. I do plan on attaining the entire series by end of July so Ill be picking up vol 7 soon enough. then these spoiler happy pages wont tempt me so. Onwe hting is for sure, I LOVE that AMV of angelic layer to SOAD's Chop suey.
[/ QUOTE ]
Thats the only good Chop Suey! AMV ever made.
And is what inspired me to watch AL to begin with.
BonifaceVIII
06-24-2004, 05:12 PM
Now that there's been a good Chop Suey video made, nu-metal, screamo and hardcore should hereby be banned from all AMV production from now until eternity.
Fencedude
06-24-2004, 05:14 PM
[ QUOTE ]
BonifaceVIII said:
Now that there's been a good Chop Suey video made, nu-metal, screamo and hardcore should hereby be banned from all AMV production from now until eternity.
[/ QUOTE ]
Hear hear!
PsychoRabbitt
06-24-2004, 10:02 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Innotech said:
this thread is so spoilerific ^^
Well I caved in and bought vol 1+art box and vol 2-4 as well and they are on their way here as I speak. I do plan on attaining the entire series by end of July so Ill be picking up vol 7 soon enough. then these spoiler happy pages wont tempt me so. Onwe hting is for sure, I LOVE that AMV of angelic layer to SOAD's Chop suey.
[/ QUOTE ]
Volume 7 is a daily deal at TRSI today. /images/graemlins/wink.gif
Innotech
06-24-2004, 10:06 PM
thanks but I have a good source for anime already and its reasonably cheap. Its also legit so dont worry lol
edit: recieved my order today. I watched about 23 vols of the show and its really great! Cute, funny, and actually a surprisingly good little background story and some neat fighting. Im hooked ^^
GetBackersFreak
06-28-2004, 09:25 PM
Ah! Finally got to buy and watch this AWESOME conclusion to what has been an awesome series thus far... And let me say, the last fight was spectacular.
Favorite part was the very end credits though. I was happy to see <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> Shuko walking... It sounds corny, but that scene warmed my heart... /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif </span>
Oh, and...
Hatoko = LESBIAN ALERT
Gwahahahahaha.
Innotech
06-29-2004, 03:22 PM
3 vols down, 1 to go (I have 4), and I will DEFINITELY continue this. Its such a positive show, about the little underdog defeating stronger opponents against the odds, but it also doesnt talk down to you. I like that. Angelic layer is the perfect balance for kids and adults alike. This is rapidly shooting up my favorites list along with ROD TV
bakafoo
06-29-2004, 05:07 PM
I finally managed to watch the disc (got it last weekend, but that was ROD weekend. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif ), and I got to say, ep. 25 was a tearjerker. /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif
And I just have to say, that's one impressive Angelic battle!!!
Sure there was a feeling of being rushed by the end, but it played out quite nicely. Now it's time to rewatch this thing!! /images/graemlins/wink.gif
populuxe
06-29-2004, 06:06 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Mark said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Just for fun, I'd like to see a Minoru+Hatoko matchup.</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
Oh my god, they would have about the scariest kids in anime.
populuxe
06-29-2004, 06:07 PM
[ QUOTE ]
dlw said:
I hope everyone else enjoys it half as much as we did.
[/ QUOTE ]
I enjoyed it about half as much as you did. Only because you got to be Tamayo's dad and I didn't.
Innotech
06-29-2004, 06:14 PM
[ QUOTE ]
bakaBANG-BANG said:
I finally managed to watch the disc (got it last weekend, but that was ROD weekend. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif ), and I got to say, ep. 25 was a tearjerker. /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif
And I just have to say, that's one impressive Angelic battle!!!
Sure there was a feeling of being rushed by the end, but it played out quite nicely. Now it's time to rewatch this thing!! /images/graemlins/wink.gif
[/ QUOTE ]
aaah! Damn it it sounds really great. I really need to get the last 3 vols ASAP dont I?!
populuxe
06-29-2004, 06:16 PM
Such a nice show. I'm glad I got it. I have some questions about Misaki at the end, though.
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>So we see Tamayo with Kotaro, so does that mean Kotaro gives up on Misaki? Does Misaki end up with Ohjiro? I don't think I'm all that interested in a Misaki/Ohjiro relationship. That's just too weird. Misaki/Kotaro works better for me. Ohjiro needs someone like Tamayo to keep him in place. And just think of all the moves he could learn from her. None of that standing around and letting static electricity take care of things passive aggressive crap! She'd make sure Ohjiro would come into a fight ready to kick ass.</span>
toffoli
06-29-2004, 06:25 PM
[ QUOTE ]
martialstax said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>So we see Tamayo with Kotaro, so does that mean Kotaro gives up on Misaki? Does Misaki end up with Ohjiro?</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> I pretty much thought that Kotaro gave up on Misaki after the beach episode. In fact I thought the Tamayo/Kotaro relationship was going to happen, even way back in the first episode. The usual lifelong friends turn into something more deal. As for Misaki and Ohjiro, I think that something might happen down the line, thus him behaving like Icchan in the end. Maybe there could be a Shuko/Ichiro and Misaki/Ohjiro double wedding /images/graemlins/wink.gif </span>
bakafoo
06-29-2004, 06:32 PM
Well, I for one, am happy that <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Icchan's assistant manages to get a girl (co-worker) for himself, despite them heavily ingrained with Icchan's wacky penalty system. /images/graemlins/wink.gif </span>
MalrocK
06-30-2004, 08:28 AM
[ QUOTE ]
bakaBANG-BANG said:
Well, I for one, am happy that <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Icchan's assistant manages to get a girl (co-worker) for himself, despite them heavily ingrained with Icchan's wacky penalty system. /images/graemlins/wink.gif </span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Plus she's voiced by Yui Horie</span> /images/graemlins/noseblef.gif /images/graemlins/noseblef.gif
bakafoo
06-30-2004, 10:27 AM
She was?! Whoa.. I never knew that one..
[ QUOTE ]
martialstax said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>So we see Tamayo with Kotaro, so does that mean Kotaro gives up on Misaki? Does Misaki end up with Ohjiro? I don't think I'm all that interested in a Misaki/Ohjiro relationship. That's just too weird. Misaki/Kotaro works better for me.</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>What's wrong with it? I don't think we've seen too many girl-gets-hitched-to-adopted-uncle romances in anime. I think it's cute and refreshing.</span> /images/graemlins/devil.gif
populuxe
06-30-2004, 10:49 AM
[ QUOTE ]
B-Rad Lascelle said:
[ QUOTE ]
martialstax said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>So we see Tamayo with Kotaro, so does that mean Kotaro gives up on Misaki? Does Misaki end up with Ohjiro? I don't think I'm all that interested in a Misaki/Ohjiro relationship. That's just too weird. Misaki/Kotaro works better for me.</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>What's wrong with it? I don't think we've seen too many girl-gets-hitched-to-adopted-uncle romances in anime. I think it's cute and refreshing.</span> /images/graemlins/devil.gif
[/ QUOTE ]
That's not what I find weird. It's just the there's <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>no depth to Ohjiro's feelings. He's got a school boy crush on Shuko, and then he just transfers that to Misaki. The relationship between Kotaro and Misaki grew much more naturally.</span>
Sapphire
06-30-2004, 11:48 AM
I really suggest you read the manga 'stax.
If you haven't.
I can't recall, I've barely slept so my brain is off.
Mariela
EmperorBrandon
06-30-2004, 12:00 PM
[ QUOTE ]
martialstax said:
[ QUOTE ]
B-Rad Lascelle said:
[ QUOTE ]
martialstax said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>So we see Tamayo with Kotaro, so does that mean Kotaro gives up on Misaki? Does Misaki end up with Ohjiro? I don't think I'm all that interested in a Misaki/Ohjiro relationship. That's just too weird. Misaki/Kotaro works better for me.</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>What's wrong with it? I don't think we've seen too many girl-gets-hitched-to-adopted-uncle romances in anime. I think it's cute and refreshing.</span> /images/graemlins/devil.gif
[/ QUOTE ]
That's not what I find weird. It's just the there's <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>no depth to Ohjiro's feelings. He's got a school boy crush on Shuko, and then he just transfers that to Misaki. The relationship between Kotaro and Misaki grew much more naturally.</span>
[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>As I've said before, I'm for Misaki and Kotaro. Was there from the beginning, and still am, even after Vol. 6. I agree with martialstax in that the relationship between Misaki and Ohjiro was not to my liking, even not taking the difference of age as a factor. There was a particular moment in the last volume that showed Kotaro still had feelings for Misaki, so I somehow doubt he's given up on her, despite what he knows about Tamayo. Though it's not much, there's also Tamayo losing the sparkler battle with Icchan in ep. 21. I'm sure that wasn't completely meaningless. /images/graemlins/wink.gif </span>
populuxe
06-30-2004, 12:08 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Sapphire said:
I really suggest you read the manga 'stax.
If you haven't.
I can't recall, I've barely slept so my brain is off.
Mariela
[/ QUOTE ]
I got plenty of sleep last night and my brain is still off, anyway. I read the manga, but it's been a while. I should probably reread them soon.
Varie
07-15-2004, 03:45 AM
Steven Den Beste (USS Clueless (http://denbeste.nu/)) wrote an interesting analysis (http://denbeste.nu/cd_Articles/AngelicLayer.shtml) of the final battle in Angelic Layer. It contains spoilers, of course.
bakafoo
07-15-2004, 03:52 AM
Quite a lengthy read.. /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif
edit: O~kay.. He got me interested in the first few parts.. but then he weirded me out by the end.. He's way way overthinking too much of the series. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif
Nylock
07-15-2004, 10:09 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Tsuboobie-hime said:
Quite a lengthy read.. /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif
edit: O~kay.. He got me interested in the first few parts.. but then he weirded me out by the end.. He's way way overthinking too much of the series. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif
[/ QUOTE ]
you got that right - I was with him until the supernatural stuff started, and then it was WTF? /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif
Fluffy
07-15-2004, 10:11 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Nylock said:
[ QUOTE ]
Tsuboobie-hime said:
Quite a lengthy read.. /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif
edit: O~kay.. He got me interested in the first few parts.. but then he weirded me out by the end.. He's way way overthinking too much of the series. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif
[/ QUOTE ]
you got that right - I was with him until the supernatural stuff started, and then it was WTF? /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif
[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah... LOL ...that's a bit too much thinking for a cartoon. /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif Good read for the most part. I guess.
BonifaceVIII
07-15-2004, 10:28 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Flood said:
Yeah... LOL ...that's a bit too much thinking for a cartoon. /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif Good read for the most part. I guess.
[/ QUOTE ]
Inspiration! (http://forums.animeondvd.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=581498&page=0&view=co llapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1)
vBulletin® v3.6.8, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.