Forum Information May. 07, 2007 updated

[Chris Beveridge]

As we are now an eBay affiliate, and knowing the problems some people have with eBay and not wanting the retail forum to become overly cluttered, we've added this eBay specific forum for covering the topic of auctions on that site.

At this point, we're going to wing it with how the forum will work and see what kind of dynamic grows. All we ask at this point is that if someone does post a link to a set that *is* a bootleg, let them know it is a bootleg. With so many repackagings lately in region 1, different types of releases and so forth, a lot of people aren't as up on what the new packaging looks like and will now. Especially now that a lot of sets are hitting very low prices as well.

Once the forum runs for awhile, we'll tweak this section based on feedback.

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About The Purpose Of This Forum:
As this eBay forum was opened specifically to complement AnimeOnDVD's affiliate relationship with eBay, it is expected that posters will respect this relationship and and conduct their transactions through eBay's facilities.

It is not considered appropriate to encourage others to contact you directly for buy/sell/trading business. Such threads will be removed, or the poster will be asked to make modifications. There are various other resources available on other boards for person to person anime trading, and you are encouraged to use them if you feel that is how you want to sell your items.

List of Legal "Paul Champagne" Anime Artboxes
Paul Champagne has made a variety of beautiful anime artboxes. Unfortunately some of them were unlicensed and therefore considered bootlegs. It's inappropriate to post bootlegs here, but feel free to post or link to auctions featuring his legally licensed artboxes.

These boxes are:
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Garasaki
BubbleGum Crisis 2040

Doujinshi / Fan-Made Anime-Related Art
You can sell doujinshi created by yourself or others. Also, remember to respect eBay's Terms & Conditions when deciding what to sell as some doujins might be inadmissable under their rules.

Items that use the official artwork without legal license to do so are bootlegs and not doujins.

Items that are just ripoffs, copies or CD-Rs of other people's doujins aren't acceptable.

End-Of-Auction Reminder Posts
Please use a maximum of one (1) post per batch of auctions to remind users that the auction is ending soon. A batch is defined as a group of auctions all ending within the same 24 hour period.

Number Of Threads
Please combine auction ads into one thread so that the forum is not monopolized by high-volume sellers.

Other Relevant Threads In This Forum:
Sellers: Create Instant AOD Affiliated Links (http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/2194/post/48805/hl/Sellers/)

Recommended Sellers (http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/2732/post/62671/hl/Sellers/)

Reporting Bootlegs & Fraud on eBay (http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/20231/)

2007 eBay Rollcall Spring Editions! (http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/20233/)

1 & Only Rare and OOP Items Thread (http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/18325/post/391426/hl/OOP+Items+Thread/)

1 & Only eBay Off-Topic & Comedy Thread (http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/2694/post/61897/hl/Comedy/)

[demonanya]

Are you able to become an Ebay UK affiliate as well or is it US only with you being a US site?

[Chris Beveridge]

I can probably do both; I want to give the US one a few days to settle in before tackling something like that however.

[demonanya]

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Chris Beveridge said:
I can probably do both; I want to give the US one a few days to settle in before tackling something like that however.

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That's fair enough, will keep an eye out for any developments /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[wingednike]

Congrats on the new affiliate. Hope the money it brings in won't all be spent on headache medication /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Anyway, what kind of posts are you expecting in this forum? Members posting their auction, pointing out which vendors sell bootlegs, etc. Also do you receive anything if people use the link to post their auction or is it only when they place a bid that you receive a part?

[Kaikou]

I'm interested in hearing what your plans are exactly for this forum, when you figure it all out. What if this turns into a place that people advertise things they are selling? (assuming you don't want that)

[Zanza Hiro]

eek, well, hopefully this will all go down well, and AoD'ers will find this useful

i just hope too much headache doesn't come of this, with inevitable issues like the posting of illigitimate goods etc.

[elmer92413]

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wingednike said:
Congrats on the new affiliate. Hope the money it brings in won't all be spent on headache medication /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Anyway, what kind of posts are you expecting in this forum? Members posting their auction, pointing out which vendors sell bootlegs, etc. Also do you receive anything if people use the link to post their auction or is it only when they place a bid that you receive a part?

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I think pointing out bootleg sellers would be a good idea...
I hate it when I do a search and pull up a couple hundred hits just to find that 90% are bootlegs from the same people...
If we had a list we could exclude those sellers from our searches...
It would sure make life much easier...!!!
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[bakafoo]

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Zanza said:
eek, well, hopefully this will all go down well, and AoD'ers will find this useful

i just hope too much headache doesn't come of this, with inevitable issues like the posting of illigitimate goods etc.

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True...

In any case, this thread can certainly help those of us who are into figures.. *wink *wink Naruto gashapons... /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[hobie]

For letting people know that an auction is bootlegs, should we post in the thread that mentions the item, PM the person, alert a mod, or some combination of the above?

Also, how do you want to handle notorious bootleg sellers on Ebay? Should a sticky of sellers to avoid be created, or would that then create too much of a problem of telling lowlifes who don't care about buying them exactly where to go? Maybe instead create a sticky of sellers that are bootleg free?

There should probably also be a sticky pointing to the Pirate Anime Faq with a brief blurb to help people avoid bootleg auctions.

[Zanza Hiro]

hahaha, for sure!

the positive benefits a forum like can bring are huge!

seeing as that B-dawg is modding this forum solo, i just hope its not too much of a headache

it'll be nice for AoD'ers to maybe form a community to sell hard to find items. i kno in the past coupla days, some awesome AoD'ers offered to send me the Aya Pinkycos fig i really want. such nice people willing to help, AoD is cool that way /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

[Melazomah]

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Hobie-wan said:
Also, how do you want to handle notorious bootleg sellers on Ebay? Should a sticky of sellers to avoid be created, or would that then create too much of a problem of telling lowlifes who don't care about buying them exactly where to go?

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There's the problem. Pointing out a bootleg seller by user name on eBay is no different than linking directly to a bootleg seller's online store, on eBay or off.
If the purpose of the "no bootleg links" policy is to prevent those links from falling into the misguided hands, an eBay bootleg-sellers list will act counter to that. After all, people are free to do just about anything with the information they are given.

[Huntressfan]

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disarm10 said:
Now there will be even more competition for the rare cheap auctions I find >_<! I think any auction that gets linked here will get increased traffic, and therefore cease to be useful to me =P


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Hehe, that thought went through my head too! Aaah, more competition! AOD'ers trying to outbid one another! Who will be the winner?!? /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[something]

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Huntressfan said:
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disarm10 said:
Now there will be even more competition for the rare cheap auctions I find >_<! I think any auction that gets linked here will get increased traffic, and therefore cease to be useful to me =P


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Hehe, that thought went through my head too! Aaah, more competition! AOD'ers trying to outbid one another! Who will be the winner?!? /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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I already tend not to bid on things with more than a couple bids, or before the last 2 minutes... that's really the only way to get great deals. Once people start trying to outbid one another, and when you factor in insane shipping many sellers charge, it just isn't worth it.

[juliant59]

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disarm10 said:
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Huntressfan said:
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disarm10 said:
Now there will be even more competition for the rare cheap auctions I find >_<! I think any auction that gets linked here will get increased traffic, and therefore cease to be useful to me =P


[/ QUOTE ]

Hehe, that thought went through my head too! Aaah, more competition! AOD'ers trying to outbid one another! Who will be the winner?!? /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I already tend not to bid on things with more than a couple bids, or before the last 2 minutes... that's really the only way to get great deals. Once people start trying to outbid one another, and when you factor in insane shipping many sellers charge, it just isn't worth it.

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Great now even more competition. I try to bid at the last minute on anything I bid and try to bid on the cheap stuff. Usually it works but now we shall see. Good luck my fellow ebayers. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[BULLDOG1]

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Zanza said:
seeing as that B-dawg is modding this forum solo, i just hope its not too much of a headache

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Well...there's an easy solution to reduce that problem. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

A.J.

[BULLDOG1]

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Chris Beveridge said:
As we are now an eBay affiliate, and knowing the problems some people have with eBay and not wanting the retail forum to become overly cluttered, we've added this eBay specific forum for covering the topic of auctions on that site.

[/ QUOTE ]

I for one, really appreciate that you did setup a separate subforum. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

This will make it that much easier to separate auctions from regular sales/deals.

It's funny that you picked now to start with this as I am finally about to "give in" myself and start bidding on a particular item (non-anime) that I've wanted for quite some time (Julian knows what I'm referring to, but if he says anything about it and ruins my chances of winning the bid......GRRR).

A.J.

[BULLDOG1]

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disarm10 said:
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Bulldog said:
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Zanza said:
seeing as that B-dawg is modding this forum solo, i just hope its not too much of a headache

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Well...there's an easy solution to reduce that problem. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

A.J.

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Indeed.. I think ALL mods should be used for this forum, to reduce reaction time as much as possible in (the inevitable) event of a bootleg posting.

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I'm not so sure that it would work since each would probably think that another mod was covering the forum.....sorta like what seemed to have happened to R1 (i.e. a recent thread regarding TRSI's online store that was allowed to remain open for about 2 days /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif ).

However, some sort of overlapping coverage by mods from other subforums would probably work the best......in addition to 1-2 dedicated mods for this subforum.

A.J.

[Mononoke]

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Huntressfan said:
Hehe, that thought went through my head too! Aaah, more competition! AOD'ers trying to outbid one another! Who will be the winner?!? /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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Sounds just like the cel crew competing for things over at YHJ, which has been going on for quite some time /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif

[rowen]

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juliant59 said:
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disarm10 said:
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Huntressfan said:
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disarm10 said:
Now there will be even more competition for the rare cheap auctions I find >_<! I think any auction that gets linked here will get increased traffic, and therefore cease to be useful to me =P


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Hehe, that thought went through my head too! Aaah, more competition! AOD'ers trying to outbid one another! Who will be the winner?!? /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I already tend not to bid on things with more than a couple bids, or before the last 2 minutes... that's really the only way to get great deals. Once people start trying to outbid one another, and when you factor in insane shipping many sellers charge, it just isn't worth it.

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Great now even more competition. I try to bid at the last minute on anything I bid and try to bid on the cheap stuff. Usually it works but now we shall see. Good luck my fellow ebayers. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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On the other hand, does this also mean that AOD members can post their own sales/auctions, or even sell off their own stuff directly on here? For instance, there are quite a few DVDs I've tried and regretted buying, then decided to sell off, but have never posted ebay links here due to the rules.

In general, it would be preferable to buy and sell DVDs to users here because there is a higher level of trust involved (I did say in general, because there is certainly a chance for abuse). This sort of practice might necessitate the need for a black list and straight shooters list (similar to macrossworld.com). Since we're starting to discuss how the format for this forum would work out I thought I would ask so some of these questions can be moved out of the way.

[jecca-neko]

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rowen said:
In general, it would be preferable to buy and sell DVDs to users here because there is a higher level of trust involved (I did say in general, because there is certainly a chance for abuse).

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Can already do that via PMs, with or without eBay, but with no way of advertising I suppose there'd be no way to get any possible interest.

This does bring up the point of would people be allowed to sell stuff to AoD users without eBay, maybe listing short ads for what's available here and then the rest is done through PM (and payment could work similar to eBay if people want as there is things like PayPal). However, you wouldn't have someone like what eBay does to protect sellers from those who don't pay and buyers from those who don't send their stuff, but I suppose that's the risk people take for cheaper ads (no eBay fees for seller, hence cheaper prices for buyer).

[Elana]

Another question I have is, if you're allowed to link to your own auctions, would it be limited to DVD auctions or would you be able to link related material, such as cels or even shitajiki or manga and wallscrolls? What are the limits?

I know I'm going to be selling off a bunch of things in the near future.

I would recommend (or propose) when an auction is posted, it be posted in a set format as well.

Something like:

Topic: SERIES (Type of Item) Volume # - Ends DATE
Body:

Starting Bid
Buy it Now Price (if available)
If it's met reserve yet or not (if applicable)

Link...


If it's relisted with no bids, the main topic auction end date can be edited. If it's a bootleg, then the mod can be alerted and the link removed. It'll also allow people perusing to quickly ignore auctions already ended.

[The Pirate Queen]

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jecca-neko said:
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rowen said:
In general, it would be preferable to buy and sell DVDs to users here because there is a higher level of trust involved (I did say in general, because there is certainly a chance for abuse).

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Can already do that via PMs, with or without eBay, but with no way of advertising I suppose there'd be no way to get any possible interest.

This does bring up the point of would people be allowed to sell stuff to AoD users without eBay, maybe listing short ads for what's available here and then the rest is done through PM (and payment could work similar to eBay if people want as there is things like PayPal). However, you wouldn't have someone like what eBay does to protect sellers from those who don't pay and buyers from those who don't send their stuff, but I suppose that's the risk people take for cheaper ads (no eBay fees for seller, hence cheaper prices for buyer).

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You don't have any revenue going to AoD, either.

[something]

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Elana said:
Another question I have is, if you're allowed to link to your own auctions, would it be limited to DVD auctions or would you be able to link related material, such as cels or even shitajiki or manga and wallscrolls? What are the limits?

I know I'm going to be selling off a bunch of things in the near future.

I would recommend (or propose) when an auction is posted, it be posted in a set format as well.

Something like:

Topic: SERIES (Type of Item) Volume # - Ends DATE
Body:

Starting Bid
Buy it Now Price (if available)
If it's met reserve yet or not (if applicable)

Link...


If it's relisted with no bids, the main topic auction end date can be edited. If it's a bootleg, then the mod can be alerted and the link removed. It'll also allow people perusing to quickly ignore auctions already ended.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd be for all this too, but I just want to ask again if anyone even knows how referral links to eBay work.

Do you use the link when listing an item, when bidding, when the item ends, when you pay (and what if you don't use eBay checkout?), and where in the world does the referral credit come from? The seller (kills incentive to post an auction through the referral link), the buyer (what, do we get charged more? I doubt it), eBay (their fees suck, sure, but still, what will AoD get from a sale? $0.01?) or something else?

Since it's not a direct click>buy>sale complete, money from retailer to referrer, I don't understand how it works.

Edit: Ooooooor, is Chris just paid in click-throughs?

[Chris Beveridge]

Per questions:

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Action: Bid

ActionCriteria A registered user bids on an eBay.com auction item.
Action Referral Period 30 day(s)
Action Referral Occurrences 1 time(s)
Commission $0.10 USD

Action: "Buy it now"

ActionCriteria A registered user uses the Buy-it-now functionality on eBay.com.

Action Referral Period 30 day(s)
Action Referral Occurrences 1 time(s)
Commission $0.10 USD


4. Action: Active Registration

ActionCriteria A visitor becomes a confirmed, active user of eBay.com within 30 days of registration.
Action Referral Period 30 day(s)
Action Referral Occurrences 1 time(s)
Commission $20.00 USD


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To break it down a bit. If you click on the link and then make a bid or do a buy it now on eBay, I get 10 cents. If you go back to the site any time in 30 days and you haven't cleared your cookies and whatnot, it counts that as well (though I find it isn't always as good as remembering as they say, especially if people disable tracking stuff). So if you went back without clicking an eBay affiliate link on ANOTHER site, and bid, I'd get 10 cents again. This is why when I do affiliate stuff, I always go back to the site to ensure they get the revenue.

If you setup an account and as they say have it fully registered/validated in 30 days, I get $20 bucks. Most people have an account so these are rare but it's what they really want.

Other stuff:

With this separate forum, we will allow people to post their auctions and link to them. We do ask that in the post they remind people to use the top link with the tracking if they want to bid on items though, i.e. come back, click our link, go to the item and bid.

We would prefer to limit things to just DVDs, but for openers I'm willing to leave it open to see how it does, how busy the forum is, how active the traffic is and what problems arise. I'm going with the idea of trusting the users here to do the right thing and not abuse this and am willing to go the extra mile for awhile.

[bakafoo]

Last question (at least for me). When do we begin posting our ebay links? I know some of us here are already itching, and I'm just giving them a headway. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[Chris Beveridge]

Pretty much as soon as we opened this forum this morning you could have posted.

/images/graemlins/happy.gif

[something]

Thanks for the info! And WOW, $20 for you if we start an account? That's craziness.

I will most certainly be using the links whenever I go to eBay... that's awesome that you get $0.10 just for someone bidding, even if it's not the winning bid. And we only need to click once, and all bids (assuming we dont click another referral on another site) we make for the next 30 days give you $0.10? So, we don't have to go through the link here every time in those 30 days, and once is enough?

That's actually really cool. I just hope people don't abuse the signup thing with good intentions (getting you money) because I know these referral programs are REALLY STRICT about any kind of abuse, good intentioned or not, and will cut you off... So, I caution everyone not to do anything shady, as I can see eBay cutting off Chris' funds and freezing his account if you do try anything like that. My girlfriend frequents a site that got majorly screwed by Google Ads for (what seemed like) a very slight infraction against the Terms of Service. But slight or not, it was a rule, so they couldn't appeal. A couple hundred dollars were basically frozen and unavailable forever to the webmaster. Maybe eBay isn't as strict, but it's not worth a risk.

So, this is a good thing, I use eBay anyway so I'll use the links, but I again caution everyone to be straight up with this.

Anyway, here's looking forward to seeing some nice auctions!

[LOUiE]

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Chris Beveridge said:
Pretty much as soon as we opened this forum this morning you could have posted.

/images/graemlins/happy.gif

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So we should see about 100 new threads posted in the next 2 days. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[BULLDOG1]

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Chris Beveridge said:
If you setup an account and as they say have it fully registered/validated in 30 days, I get $20 bucks. Most people have an account so these are rare but it's what they really want.

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Hmm....

Well, both you and eBay just might get what you want out of me. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Until now, I have managed to refrain from ever using eBay.......despite quite a few people wondering why I just haven't "given in" yet.

However, the other day, I noticed an auction for particular item that I've wanted for quite some time (note: it's not anime/manga related).

It was at that point when I started to seriously consider establishing an account just so that I could place a bid and try to win it in order to fill a certain hole in my collection.

A.J.

[Chris Beveridge]

well, remember, most people tend to already have an ebay account, and the ccount has to be registered and used within 30 days. People who have an account tend to value their feedback so they don't give it up easily.

[LOUiE]

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Bulldog said:
However, the other day, I noticed an auction for particular item that I've wanted for quite some time (note: it's not anime/manga related).

It was at that point when I started to seriously consider establishing an account just so that I could place a bid and try to win it in order to fill a certain hole in my collection.

A.J.

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No time like the present to sign up and bid and get Chris $20 like that... well, as long as you win. Then you can be opened up to the giant world of ebay possibilities. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[juliant59]

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Chris Beveridge said:
well, remember, most people tend to already have an ebay account, and the ccount has to be registered and used within 30 days. People who have an account tend to value their feedback so they don't give it up easily.

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That's true. The account I use is my family's actually and it has 600 plus feedback. Feedback is very crucial because some sellers don't trust 0 feedback bidders. That's just the way it is. If I ever open a seperate account though, I will use the link so CB could get 20 bones. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[something]

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Chris Beveridge said:
well, remember, most people tend to already have an ebay account, and the ccount has to be registered and used within 30 days. People who have an account tend to value their feedback so they don't give it up easily.

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Yeah, definitely, but you can have two accounts at once as far as I know. I signed up another account for some reason before (nothing like this, can't remember exactly what) and it still exists... it's just another email address, thats all.

I basically just wanted people to use caution because I've seen advertisers/referral linkes get super pissy over little things, and it would suck if someone, while trying to help the site, inadvertantly freezes a significant chunk of change you had.

But yes, I trust people here to be straight about it all.

[Judeau]

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Huntressfan said:
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disarm10 said:
Now there will be even more competition for the rare cheap auctions I find >_<! I think any auction that gets linked here will get increased traffic, and therefore cease to be useful to me =P


[/ QUOTE ]

Hehe, that thought went through my head too! Aaah, more competition! AOD'ers trying to outbid one another! Who will be the winner?!? /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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I know some good sellers on eBay, but am reluctant to post about it in fear that all the jackals will rampage the guy's inventory and they'll be nothing left for me.

I like this idea and don't like it at the same time.

[Zanza Hiro]

hehehe

i've never used ebay to buy something b4 but, if I were you, i'd keep those sellers to yourself /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

as much as I'd love to help out some friends on AoD, if I posted in generally and like tons of people I didn't kno rushed the dude... well

that would be most inconvenient

man, i am such a bad person /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[PsychoRabbitt]

I'm surprised there wasn't a note on the front page (or maybe there was and I'm just oblivious /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif). I didn't even know about this forum until I started reading the Hellsing blood bag thread.

[PsychoRabbitt]

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Elana said:
Another question I have is, if you're allowed to link to your own auctions, would it be limited to DVD auctions or would you be able to link related material, such as cels or even shitajiki or manga and wallscrolls? What are the limits?

I know I'm going to be selling off a bunch of things in the near future.

I would recommend (or propose) when an auction is posted, it be posted in a set format as well.

Something like:

Topic: SERIES (Type of Item) Volume # - Ends DATE
Body:

Starting Bid
Buy it Now Price (if available)
If it's met reserve yet or not (if applicable)

Link...


If it's relisted with no bids, the main topic auction end date can be edited. If it's a bootleg, then the mod can be alerted and the link removed. It'll also allow people perusing to quickly ignore auctions already ended.

[/ QUOTE ]

Good idea. Kinda sorta in a way like Animeka.

[PsychoRabbitt]

Hmm... there's an auction I'm watching thats going to end on Thursday. I'm going to have to make sure I click through here when I make my last bid. Get Chris another bright shiny dime. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[PsychoRabbitt]

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Chris Beveridge said:
well, remember, most people tend to already have an ebay account, and the ccount has to be registered and used within 30 days. People who have an account tend to value their feedback so they don't give it up easily.

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I think he meant people might try to start "extra" accounts that they'll use once or twice just to get you twenty smackers.

[PsychoRabbitt]

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Judeau said:
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Huntressfan said:
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disarm10 said:
Now there will be even more competition for the rare cheap auctions I find >_<! I think any auction that gets linked here will get increased traffic, and therefore cease to be useful to me =P


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Hehe, that thought went through my head too! Aaah, more competition! AOD'ers trying to outbid one another! Who will be the winner?!? /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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I know some good sellers on eBay, but am reluctant to post about it in fear that all the jackals will rampage the guy's inventory and they'll be nothing left for me.

I like this idea and don't like it at the same time.

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We all have a few sellers we know and trust. Like the guy I get my Gundam gashapons from. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Noodle]

Er, given the number of things I buy off ebay *cough books/artbooks/doujinshi etc* I suspect Chris should be seeing several dimes shooting his way. /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

Yay... no idea how crazy this forum might get, but I think it's a nice idea to try, even if it does increase competition /images/graemlins/wink.gif. Thanks, Chris! Hopefully I'll remember to visit the forum, but if not, I'll definitely use the link above to go to ebay.

[Chris Beveridge]

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PsychoRabbitt said:
I'm surprised there wasn't a note on the front page (or maybe there was and I'm just oblivious /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif). I didn't even know about this forum until I started reading the Hellsing blood bag thread.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm putting it through a shakedown period first to get the kinks out before making it a full on notice thing.

[Helschadenfreude]

Wow, an ebay thing. Hope it doesn't get too crazy.

I would start another account, as I forgot the password on mine, and it got phished or whatever, but I don't like/don't know how to use paypal so /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif

Aren't shipping costs insane though for ebay sellers are asking?

[Collectonian]

I'm guessing we want to encourage people to use the eBay link at the top of the page, right? Is so, why not have posters just list the auction numbers instead of links?

That would make it easier for people to remember to use the links :-)

[LOUiE]

[ QUOTE ]
Collectonian said:
I'm guessing we want to encourage people to use the eBay link at the top of the page, right? Is so, why not have posters just list the auction numbers instead of links?

That would make it easier for people to remember to use the links :-)

[/ QUOTE ]
That's actually a smart idea. This way, nobody would accidentally forget to come back after checking out the auction to click up top and it'd be easier to find the auction when searching as well. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[Mrdini]

[ QUOTE ]
Collectonian said:
I'm guessing we want to encourage people to use the eBay link at the top of the page, right? Is so, why not have posters just list the auction numbers instead of links?

That would make it easier for people to remember to use the links :-)

[/ QUOTE ]

Better q - is it possible to include a direct link to an auction in the referrer URL?

[something]

[ QUOTE ]
HelSchadenfreude said:
I would start another account, as I forgot the password on mine, and it got phished or whatever, but I don't like/don't know how to use paypal so /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

PayPal isn't the only way to pay, and there's nothing really to know. It is my preferred way though.

[ QUOTE ]
Aren't shipping costs insane though for ebay sellers are asking?

[/ QUOTE ]

That's set by the individual seller, of course. But yes, it often is insane. But sometimes it isn't. Some sellers even have free shipping threshholds. I just calculate the TOTAL I'm willing to spend, and bid accordingly, while taking S&H into account. If that means I'm willing to bid no more than $5 on a disc, then so be it, if S&H is $7.

[juliant59]

[ QUOTE ]
disarm10 said:
[ QUOTE ]
HelSchadenfreude said:
I would start another account, as I forgot the password on mine, and it got phished or whatever, but I don't like/don't know how to use paypal so /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

PayPal isn't the only way to pay, and there's nothing really to know. It is my preferred way though.

[ QUOTE ]
Aren't shipping costs insane though for ebay sellers are asking?

[/ QUOTE ]

That's set by the individual seller, of course. But yes, it often is insane. But sometimes it isn't. Some sellers even have free shipping threshholds. I just calculate the TOTAL I'm willing to spend, and bid accordingly, while taking S&H into account. If that means I'm willing to bid no more than $5 on a disc, then so be it, if S&H is $7.

[/ QUOTE ]


PayPal might not be the only payment option but it is probably the one the sellers will accept first and sometimes only PayPal as a payment option. Plus you can get the item faster paid and that means most likely a faster shipment date for your item, that way you get to enjoy it earlier than a money order payment which could take some more days to reach the seller. Yea shipping can be a drag. The most I will take on shipping is 5 bucks more. That is the most unless it's a lot of discs then okay maybe 10 bucks but outrageous shipping doesn't help when wanting to bid on a item.

[something]

[ QUOTE ]
juliant59 said:
Plus you can get the item faster paid and that means most likely a faster shipment date for your item, that way you get to enjoy it earlier than a money order payment which could take some more days to reach the seller.

[/ QUOTE ]

UGH, MONEY ORDERS. I loathe them like nobody's business. Got ripped off $25 from a seller that was banned from eBay after I won an auction... since he was banned, he could simply ignore me, and because he only accepted money orders, I was 100% screwed. That bitch still has my money, and all he had to do was ignore my emails.

[ QUOTE ]
Yea shipping can be a drag. The most I will take on shipping is 5 bucks more. That is the most unless it's a lot of discs then okay maybe 10 bucks but outrageous shipping doesn't help when wanting to bid on a item.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, a lot of people aren't smart enough to calculate shipping into the equation, and bid $15 on a disc that has $10 shipping. Not smart! Basically, everything I bid on at eBay is to pay $15 (preferrably significantly less) per disc, shipped. Under $10 is always the goal... so sellers with rediculous shipping get ignored by me most of the time, unless I get lucky and, say, win the auction at $2.50 even if shipping is $8.

[juliant59]

[ QUOTE ]
disarm10 said:
[ QUOTE ]
juliant59 said:
Plus you can get the item faster paid and that means most likely a faster shipment date for your item, that way you get to enjoy it earlier than a money order payment which could take some more days to reach the seller.

[/ QUOTE ]

UGH, MONEY ORDERS. I loathe them like nobody's business. Got ripped off $25 from a seller that was banned from eBay after I won an auction... since he was banned, he could simply ignore me, and because he only accepted money orders, I was 100% screwed. That bitch still has my money, and all he had to do was ignore my emails.

[ QUOTE ]
Yea shipping can be a drag. The most I will take on shipping is 5 bucks more. That is the most unless it's a lot of discs then okay maybe 10 bucks but outrageous shipping doesn't help when wanting to bid on a item.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, a lot of people aren't smart enough to calculate shipping into the equation, and bid $15 on a disc that has $10 shipping. Not smart! Basically, everything I bid on at eBay is to pay $15 (preferrably significantly less) per disc, shipped. Under $10 is always the goal... so sellers with rediculous shipping get ignored by me most of the time, unless I get lucky and, say, win the auction at $2.50 even if shipping is $8.

[/ QUOTE ]



Yea I got screwed once on Money Order stuff before. I forgot what it was though, something not anime related. Yup if it is a 15 dollar auction win with 10 dollars shipping then guess what you can go get that same DVD most likely at Bestbuy for that price or even less on a online retailer. Yup I am a cheap dude and I know it and there is nothing wrong with that. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[Keimar]

This forum is long due - it'd be good to advertise eBay sales, esp rare stuff; now more useful with the demise of anitrader.com.

Edit - but then will it get cluttered with everyone posting their Evangelion DVD auctions...

Also, what about game and music related stuff?

[ape2020]

[ QUOTE ]
juliant59 said:
Yup if it is a 15 dollar auction win with 10 dollars shipping then guess what you can go get that same DVD most likely at Bestbuy for that price or even less on a online retailer. Yup I am a cheap dude and I know it and there is nothing wrong with that. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Lately I've been on a roll and haven't spent more then $12 including shipping on DVDs and usually less then ten. One thing to really look into is combined shipping as most sellers will do this and it shipping can be dropped a lot. Also be on the look out for big lots of items, I got Vampire Game v1-8 for under $30 shipped. If the sellers are honest about shipping they won't try to make money off it like some I seen start auction off at 99 cents but charge $20 bucks shipping.

-ape2020

[ape2020]

For some reason I keep getting connection refused when trying to contact. Is this a bug or is there some reason my firefox browser can't connect?

-ape2020

[something]

[ QUOTE ]
Ape2020 said:
For some reason I keep getting connection refused when trying to contact. Is this a bug or is there some reason my firefox browser can't connect?

-ape2020

[/ QUOTE ]

I just clicked it and got through to the main site with no problem. Do you also get the error in IE?

[Chris Beveridge]

[ QUOTE ]
Ape2020 said:
For some reason I keep getting connection refused when trying to contact. Is this a bug or is there some reason my firefox browser can't connect?

-ape2020

[/ QUOTE ]

If you have adblocker software, that may be it; the server that it connects to is connected to an advertising system as well and I heard some people were finding themselves blocked.

[LOUiE]

[ QUOTE ]
Ape2020 said:
For some reason I keep getting connection refused when trying to contact. Is this a bug or is there some reason my firefox browser can't connect?

-ape2020

[/ QUOTE ]
Works for me, turn off that adblocking software and it should work fine.

[Danj]

[ QUOTE ]
Chris Beveridge said:
[ QUOTE ]
Ape2020 said:
For some reason I keep getting connection refused when trying to contact. Is this a bug or is there some reason my firefox browser can't connect?

-ape2020

[/ QUOTE ]

If you have adblocker software, that may be it; the server that it connects to is connected to an advertising system as well and I heard some people were finding themselves blocked.

[/ QUOTE ]

Specifically, it's adfarm.mediaplex.net that you may need to unblock, that was the one that was stopping me from using the link too.

[PsychoRabbitt]

[ QUOTE ]
Danj said:
[ QUOTE ]
Chris Beveridge said:
[ QUOTE ]
Ape2020 said:
For some reason I keep getting connection refused when trying to contact. Is this a bug or is there some reason my firefox browser can't connect?

-ape2020

[/ QUOTE ]

If you have adblocker software, that may be it; the server that it connects to is connected to an advertising system as well and I heard some people were finding themselves blocked.

[/ QUOTE ]

Specifically, it's adfarm.mediaplex.net that you may need to unblock, that was the one that was stopping me from using the link too.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, I just tried with my ad blocker on AND off, and it still didn't work. Specifically, I got a DNS error.

[Ashtar00]

I can see why people prefer Paypal, but for some of us it isn't a option. My case in example, I can't use paypal even if I wanted to. I had a paypal account once and used a visa I put on file for all my purchases. After a while I got rid of that card and tried to put my new one up and the system wouldn't take it.

After long hours scanning their help section and numerous calls I finally got a answer saying that the confirmation thing their system does to verify CCs with visa only allows them to do it once per user name.

Short verison: You can only do it once, if you take the off for whatever reason, be it lost, stolen, just got rid of it, your screwed. It won't take another one no matter what, even if you close the paypal account and open up another one because it goes under your actual name on the card.

There suggestion at the time was to put a Mastercard CC up. I told them I didn't have one, and they said I should get one then!?!? Yeah like I'm going to get another card just to use their service. Now granted I could also have put up a bank account for transfer, but I wasn't doing that. At the time I only had a savings account at my bank which would only allow electronic deposits to the account not withdrawls.

Second if you read Paypal's policy very carefully and in depth you'll see that it says in the short verison if your account is hack and your funds in your CC or bank account are liquidated as a result their not responsible. Like hell I'm going to put my bank account on their, if anything happened I be royally f***. At least with a CC your protected by their policy and it would count as the same if the card was actually stolen right out of your pocket with zero liability.

That was a few years or two ago, granted their policy of theft could have changed since then, but I know the problem with putting more than one visa account on is still there, and now they have their own Paypal line of credit thing, but again like I'm going to take out another line of credit just to use their service.

So I'm basically limited to using money orders for my eBay purchases and yes I have gotten ripped off with them before. I've only had 2 bad experiences with eBay both with Money Orders. The first lucky me they seller never cashed it and after 3 months I was able to get the money order cancelled by bidpay and got my 55 bucks back minus the then $4 fee for money order itself. The second time was this past September. Sent $21 for two auctions never got a thing back. The guy had near perfect feeback up til that point, then got slammed with like 30 negatives from people like myself who got the shaft. What did eBay do?..Nothing because my and everyone else's auctions where under their 25 buck mark they charge to do anything. So we all got screwed and the guy is still doing business on there today. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

It sucks but what can you do.

On the plus side of things though, I just got Geonocyber, GITS SS vol.2, and Chrono Crusade vol.2 for 16 bucks total shippin cost included.. and that was paid with a money order dam it /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

[juliant59]

I'm not saying I got a prob with money orders, it's just PayPal is just easier to use than sending a money order. If I have to pay by money order then it's cool with me. I got no prob with that.

[Ashtar00]

I wasn't castrating you on it. I was just providing a different side of things. As I said I can see why people prefer to use it. Fact is if I could use Paypal without all the problems I mention I would. It just sucks for people like me /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

[RiggsFanPE]

Wasn't it prior policy that we weren't allowed to hawk our auctions here? I'm not very active so I don't recall correctly.

But now there's a referral system set up for AoD, now you allow auction listings (in this forum, anyway).

[ QUOTE ]
The FAQ rules
For Sale/For Trade/Free Offer - Please do not post for sale, for trade or offer up items for free in messages. Do not post links to auction sites where you are selling items. Do not post links to auction sites where other people are selling items, even those insanely stupid ones of people selling empty boxes. Please do not ask us why or ask us to change our minds and put in a forum for this. It won't happen. If you want to sell/trade things, check out www.anitrader.com. (http://www.anitrader.com.) Posts containing auction site links will be removed.


[/ QUOTE ]
I understand that you made this site with hard work and dedication (and it's appreciated too) and deserve money to keep it up, but in the friendliest terms I can find...this is odd.

[dunno001]

[ QUOTE ]
RiggsFanPE said:
Wasn't it prior policy that we weren't allowed to hawk our auctions here? I'm not very active so I don't recall correctly.

But now there's a referral system set up for AoD, now you allow auction listings (in this forum, anyway).

[ QUOTE ]
The FAQ rules
For Sale/For Trade/Free Offer - Please do not post for sale, for trade or offer up items for free in messages. Do not post links to auction sites where you are selling items. Do not post links to auction sites where other people are selling items, even those insanely stupid ones of people selling empty boxes. Please do not ask us why or ask us to change our minds and put in a forum for this. It won't happen. If you want to sell/trade things, check out www.anitrader.com. (http://www.anitrader.com.) Posts containing auction site links will be removed.


[/ QUOTE ]
I understand that you made this site with hard work and dedication (and it's appreciated too) and deserve money to keep it up, but in the friendliest terms I can find...this is odd.

[/ QUOTE ]

Right now, this forum, from how I read Chris' post, is testing the affiliation with eBay. As such, this forum has its own set of rules, which includes permitting links to anime-related auctions. Just remember to remind people to go through the link at the top of the page if you post that. Outside of this forum, the rule remains in effect. Likewise, I believe (but Chris can clarify if I'm wrong) that links to absurd things are still not permitted.

[Keimar]

www.anitrader.com (http://www.anitrader.com) doesn't even exist anymore.

[ape2020]

[ QUOTE ]
Keimar said:
www.anitrader.com (http://www.anitrader.com) doesn't even exist anymore.

[/ QUOTE ]

Actually it still does, it moved to here:

Animeka Discussion Forum (http://www.animeka.net/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi).

I've seen a lot of activity there lately and maybe I'll go back.

-ape2020

[LOUiE]

[ QUOTE ]
Ape2020 said:
[ QUOTE ]
Keimar said:
www.anitrader.com (http://www.anitrader.com) doesn't even exist anymore.

[/ QUOTE ]

Actually it still does, it moved to here:

Animeka Discussion Forum (http://www.animeka.net/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi).

I've seen a lot of activity there lately and maybe I'll go back.

-ape2020

[/ QUOTE ]
Good to hear about this. I may have to jump in and put my for sale/trade list up now. /images/graemlins/happy.gif Thanks for the link.

[something]

[ QUOTE ]
RiggsFanPE said:
Wasn't it prior policy that we weren't allowed to hawk our auctions here? I'm not very active so I don't recall correctly.

But now there's a referral system set up for AoD, now you allow auction listings (in this forum, anyway).

[/ QUOTE ]

What's wrong with that? Before it was blocked because of the rediculous bootleg rate, and because most of us didn't want to see Retail getting clogged up with eBay stuff. Well, we STILL don't, but now it has its own forum. AND Chris can get some money (money that goes to runing the site, NOT to buying Chris a golden toilet and a couple BMWs, trust me /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif ).

So before, it was deal with the hassle for no reason, now it's deal with the hassle in order to support the site. I don't think that's even remotely odd.

[VanG]

Can we post requests and see if any other members are willing to sell theirs over ebay?

[PsychoRabbitt]

As I posted yesterday, I keep getting a DNS error whenever I click on the link. I've tried it with my ad blocker on and off and get the same result.

Anyone else getting this same problem?

[mrgazpacho]

[ QUOTE ]
PsychoRabbitt said:I keep getting a DNS error

[/ QUOTE ]

Works for me - FireFox 1.0.4 on WinXPHome firewalled. No extra ad-blocking active.

I do get the odd DNS error with one other site I vsit, though, so perhaps it's a quirk of your provider and proxy/caching...

[mrgazpacho]

[ QUOTE ]
Ashtar00 said:
I had a paypal account once and used a visa I put on file for all my purchases. After a while I got rid of that card and tried to put my new one up and the system wouldn't take it.


[/ QUOTE ]

After my first VISA card was cancelled by my bank for suspicious activity (OK, buying scads of stuff on an overseas holiday does look scary /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif ), I got another one. I added the new one as my primary Paypal CC and they didn't even bother to go through the whole one-dollar verification process again. So it was a painlessly smooth procedure for me. This was about a year ago.

Of course, I am not in the USA which may or may not affect things, as I don't think they have an easy way to verify billing vs. mailing addresses outside the USA.

[Elana]

[ QUOTE ]
mrgazpacho said:
[ QUOTE ]
Ashtar00 said:
I had a paypal account once and used a visa I put on file for all my purchases. After a while I got rid of that card and tried to put my new one up and the system wouldn't take it.


[/ QUOTE ]

After my first VISA card was cancelled by my bank for suspicious activity (OK, buying scads of stuff on an overseas holiday does look scary /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif ), I got another one. I added the new one as my primary Paypal CC and they didn't even bother to go through the whole one-dollar verification process again. So it was a painlessly smooth procedure for me. This was about a year ago.

Of course, I am not in the USA which may or may not affect things, as I don't think they have an easy way to verify billing vs. mailing addresses outside the USA.

[/ QUOTE ]

I was going to ask how long ago his problems were. Was it before Paypal was purchased by eBay? It wouldn't hurt to try it again.

[Collectonian]

[ QUOTE ]
mrgazpacho said:
After my first VISA card was cancelled by my bank for suspicious activity (OK, buying scads of stuff on an overseas holiday does look scary /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif ), I got another one. I added the new one as my primary Paypal CC and they didn't even bother to go through the whole one-dollar verification process again. So it was a painlessly smooth procedure for me. This was about a year ago.


[/ QUOTE ]

I'm in the USA and I changed my VISA card about 2 or 3 years ago after having to have it cancelled and a new number obtained. Had no problems at all with it. I think it did go through the verification process again, though, in my case. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[RiggsFanPE]

[ QUOTE ]
disarm10 said:
[ QUOTE ]
RiggsFanPE said:
Wasn't it prior policy that we weren't allowed to hawk our auctions here? I'm not very active so I don't recall correctly.

But now there's a referral system set up for AoD, now you allow auction listings (in this forum, anyway).

[/ QUOTE ]

What's wrong with that? Before it was blocked because of the rediculous bootleg rate, and because most of us didn't want to see Retail getting clogged up with eBay stuff. Well, we STILL don't, but now it has its own forum. AND Chris can get some money (money that goes to runing the site, NOT to buying Chris a golden toilet and a couple BMWs, trust me /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif ).

So before, it was deal with the hassle for no reason, now it's deal with the hassle in order to support the site. I don't think that's even remotely odd.

[/ QUOTE ]
It could have possibly had it's own forum way way back. There was nothing stopping that from happening.

I just think it's odd (among other things) that now that there's a way to obtain some money from it, it's okay. The "rediculous" bootleg rate still exists, mind you.

Hmmmmm...

[something]

[ QUOTE ]
RiggsFanPE said:
It could have possibly had it's own forum way way back. There was nothing stopping that from happening.

[/ QUOTE ]

That doesn't change anything though. Why should Chris let part of his site act as an eBay discussion forum for... well no reason? The increased mod duties and worries over bootlegs for nothing doesn't sound like a good deal? Now, however, the site can be supported by eBay, so he's cautiously allowing discussion to facilitate this.

[ QUOTE ]
I just think it's odd (among other things) that now that there's a way to obtain some money from it, it's okay.

[/ QUOTE ]

Obtain some money so he can keep running the site and we can waste gigs of his bandwidth chattering about what kind of packaging some Japanese cartoon comes in... I hardly think he's being greedy.

Keep in mind also that we WANT to support the website. I was against free posting of eBay auctions before, but now that Chris can help upkeep the site with it, I'm for it. I spend so much time on this site and what does it cost me? Not a penny. Chris asks for our help to support the site, and I think the least we can do it remember to click some links. If he needs a new forum to facilitate that, so be it.

[ QUOTE ]
The "rediculous" bootleg rate still exists, mind you.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm painfully aware. Hence it is rather stupid to put up with the increased strain on the forums this subforum could bring, without some practical reason.

I just feel like you're trying to muster up some righteous indignation that is utterly misplaced and irrelevant.

[something]

[ QUOTE ]
PsychoRabbitt said:
As I posted yesterday, I keep getting a DNS error whenever I click on the link. I've tried it with my ad blocker on and off and get the same result.

Anyone else getting this same problem?

[/ QUOTE ]

Hrm, it has worked for me from the beginning, and still works now, but I don't use in-browser ad-blockers. Those things always seem like more trouble than they're worth.

[Collectonian]

Its worked for me too since the beginning in IE 6 on XP Pro SP 2 (built-in pop up blocker on) and on IE 6 on Win98 with Yahoo! Toolbar's pop up blocker on.

[LOUiE]

[ QUOTE ]
PsychoRabbitt said:
As I posted yesterday, I keep getting a DNS error whenever I click on the link. I've tried it with my ad blocker on and off and get the same result.

Anyone else getting this same problem?

[/ QUOTE ]
If you aren't using Firefox, I suggest now as a good time to start using the superior browser. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif If you are using it, do you use Norton Internet Utilities?

Edit: added smiley to stop people from getting all uptight about the post. /images/graemlins/relief1.gif

[PsychoRabbitt]

[ QUOTE ]
LOUiE said:
[ QUOTE ]
PsychoRabbitt said:
As I posted yesterday, I keep getting a DNS error whenever I click on the link. I've tried it with my ad blocker on and off and get the same result.

Anyone else getting this same problem?

[/ QUOTE ]
If you aren't using Firefox, I suggest now as a good time to start using the superior browser. If you are using it, do you use Norton Internet Utilities?

[/ QUOTE ]

Stop trying to sell me on Firefox. This argument has gone on over and over on these forums - I hate Firefox. I refuse to use it. The 3F (Fucking Firefox Faithful) tell me I'm wrong because I have a different opinion than them. I start swearing. I get a warning from the mods.

Rinse. Repeat. /images/graemlins/relief1.gif

[LOUiE]

[ QUOTE ]
PsychoRabbitt said:
[ QUOTE ]
LOUiE said:
[ QUOTE ]
PsychoRabbitt said:
As I posted yesterday, I keep getting a DNS error whenever I click on the link. I've tried it with my ad blocker on and off and get the same result.

Anyone else getting this same problem?

[/ QUOTE ]
If you aren't using Firefox, I suggest now as a good time to start using the superior browser. If you are using it, do you use Norton Internet Utilities?

[/ QUOTE ]

Stop trying to sell me on Firefox. This argument has gone on over and over on these forums - I hate Firefox. I refuse to use it. The 3F (Fucking Firefox Faithful) tell me I'm wrong because I have a different opinion than them. I start swearing. I get a warning from the mods.

Rinse. Repeat. /images/graemlins/relief1.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
Hey, I was just making a joke. Don't get all upset about it. I guess I forgot the /images/graemlins/tongue.gif smiley to let you know it was a joke. Sorry about that.

[something]

[ QUOTE ]
LOUiE said:
If you aren't using Firefox, I suggest now as a good time to start using the superior browser. If you are using it, do you use Norton Internet Utilities?

[/ QUOTE ]

SIGH Firefox is not a cureall to every internet problem. I and many others happen to be using IE and getting through to the link with NO problem.

[PsychoRabbitt]

[ QUOTE ]
LOUiE said:
[ QUOTE ]
PsychoRabbitt said:
[ QUOTE ]
LOUiE said:
[ QUOTE ]
PsychoRabbitt said:
As I posted yesterday, I keep getting a DNS error whenever I click on the link. I've tried it with my ad blocker on and off and get the same result.

Anyone else getting this same problem?

[/ QUOTE ]
If you aren't using Firefox, I suggest now as a good time to start using the superior browser. If you are using it, do you use Norton Internet Utilities?

[/ QUOTE ]

Stop trying to sell me on Firefox. This argument has gone on over and over on these forums - I hate Firefox. I refuse to use it. The 3F (Fucking Firefox Faithful) tell me I'm wrong because I have a different opinion than them. I start swearing. I get a warning from the mods.

Rinse. Repeat. /images/graemlins/relief1.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
Hey, I was just making a joke. Don't get all upset about it. I guess I forgot the /images/graemlins/tongue.gif smiley to let you know it was a joke. Sorry about that.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm gunshy when it comes to that damned browser. I've had enough people bitch at me for not wanting it on my computer that I just brace for an argument the second it's mentioned in my presence.

For the record, I use Avant v. 10.0. I also tried it with IE 6 and no go. And, I'm running Win XP Home SP2.

[PsychoRabbitt]

[ QUOTE ]
disarm10 said:
[ QUOTE ]
LOUiE said:
If you aren't using Firefox, I suggest now as a good time to start using the superior browser. If you are using it, do you use Norton Internet Utilities?

[/ QUOTE ]

SIGH Firefox is not a cureall to every internet problem. I and many others happen to be using IE and getting through to the link with NO problem.

[/ QUOTE ]

As much as I despise Firefox, can we NOT turn this into another skirmish in the browser wars?

[something]

[ QUOTE ]
PsychoRabbitt said:
[ QUOTE ]
disarm10 said:
[ QUOTE ]
LOUiE said:
If you aren't using Firefox, I suggest now as a good time to start using the superior browser. If you are using it, do you use Norton Internet Utilities?

[/ QUOTE ]

SIGH Firefox is not a cureall to every internet problem. I and many others happen to be using IE and getting through to the link with NO problem.

[/ QUOTE ]

As much as I despise Firefox, can we NOT turn this into another skirmish in the browser wars?

[/ QUOTE ]

That's exactly what I was trying to avoid, actually. I made the point that it's not IE inherently screwing up, so people don't need to say "oh just se firefox, its better."

[RiggsFanPE]

[ QUOTE ]
disarm10 said:
I just feel like you're trying to muster up some righteous indignation that is utterly misplaced and irrelevant.

[/ QUOTE ]
No, but I think this forum could have had eBay links and things before, along with a "bootleg FAQ".

Now with an affiliation going on and money coming in from it, I just feel it's a little dirty. Maybe like selling out. The money is needed obviously, and deserved, but the money is causing an about-face in the thinking here. That's my "issue". Before, it was "there's too many bootlegs, we don't want that on our hands." Now there's money involved, the door for eBay is open. But the bootlegs aren't going anywhere.

I'm not mustering up anything here, however I feel this is an issue.

[something]

[ QUOTE ]
RiggsFanPE said:
No, but I think this forum could have had eBay links and things before, along with a "bootleg FAQ".

[/ QUOTE ]

No, obviously not, since Chris (and many forum users like myself) didn't think it was worth the hassle for no gain.

[ QUOTE ]
Now with an affiliation going on and money coming in from it, I just feel it's a little dirty. Maybe like selling out.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is where I think you're 101% dead wrong in every way, but clearly I'm not going to be able to convince you of that since you're dead set in seeing evil intent, so forget it.

[PsychoRabbitt]

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disarm10 said:
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PsychoRabbitt said:
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disarm10 said:
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LOUiE said:
If you aren't using Firefox, I suggest now as a good time to start using the superior browser. If you are using it, do you use Norton Internet Utilities?

[/ QUOTE ]

SIGH Firefox is not a cureall to every internet problem. I and many others happen to be using IE and getting through to the link with NO problem.

[/ QUOTE ]

As much as I despise Firefox, can we NOT turn this into another skirmish in the browser wars?

[/ QUOTE ]

That's exactly what I was trying to avoid, actually. I made the point that it's not IE inherently screwing up, so people don't need to say "oh just se firefox, its better."

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm going to let the new "Words of Wisdom" in my sig tell my story. /images/graemlins/devil.gif

[BULLDOG1]

[ QUOTE ]
RiggsFanPE said:
I'm not mustering up anything here, however I feel this is an issue.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you're against Chris receiving a commission for any particular transaction, then simply don't use the affiliate link at that time and/or for that affiliate.

This all begs the question as to how/when people use the affiliate links.

Does a person use them for EVERY transaction with a particular affiliate?

Or do they only use them when the items that they are purchasing are related to AOD (anime, manga, cels, etc.), but not for non-AoD related items (i.e. Hollywood films, Star Wars figures, etc.)?

Perhaps a poll/thread might shed some light on how the affiliate links are used (if at all) by the members of AoD. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

A.J.

[ape2020]

[ QUOTE ]
disarm10 said:
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PsychoRabbitt said:
[ QUOTE ]
disarm10 said:
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LOUiE said:
If you aren't using Firefox, I suggest now as a good time to start using the superior browser. If you are using it, do you use Norton Internet Utilities?

[/ QUOTE ]

SIGH Firefox is not a cureall to every internet problem. I and many others happen to be using IE and getting through to the link with NO problem.

[/ QUOTE ]

As much as I despise Firefox, can we NOT turn this into another skirmish in the browser wars?

[/ QUOTE ]

That's exactly what I was trying to avoid, actually. I made the point that it's not IE inherently screwing up, so people don't need to say "oh just se firefox, its better."

[/ QUOTE ]

Yup I've used both Firefox and IE6 and both screw up on my main enviroment. On the same computer I have another winXP setup to boot that I experiment with new stuff and both IE6 and Firefox work. I'm not sure what the difference is and I thought I closed down all ad blockers but still no go. I try some other things later in the weekend.

-ape2020

[RiggsFanPE]

[ QUOTE ]
disarm10 said:
[ QUOTE ]
RiggsFanPE said:
[ QUOTE ]
Now with an affiliation going on and money coming in from it, I just feel it's a little dirty. Maybe like selling out.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is where I think you're 101% dead wrong in every way, but clearly I'm not going to be able to convince you of that since you're dead set in seeing evil intent, so forget it.

[/ QUOTE ]
And I won't be able to convince you to see my way, since you're dead set in seeing the good. So whatever.

As far as the question posed re: affiliate links, I used to use them occasionally when I would order from Right Stuf. But since I haven't ordered in a long time, let alone order anything anime-related, I haven't.

[wingednike]

[ QUOTE ]
RiggsFanPE said:
No, but I think this forum could have had eBay links and things before, along with a "bootleg FAQ".


[/ QUOTE ]

True, but Chris didn't want to deal with the hassle back then. Even now he seems to be going about this cautiously because he knows this eBay thing could blow up like the Hindenburg.

[ QUOTE ]
Ape2020 said:
Yup I've used both Firefox and IE6 and both screw up on my main enviroment. On the same computer I have another winXP setup to boot that I experiment with new stuff and both IE6 and Firefox work. I'm not sure what the difference is and I thought I closed down all ad blockers but still no go. I try some other things later in the weekend.

[/ QUOTE ]

Have you tried ubuntu?
The test-drive runs from a completely self-contained bootable "live" CD,
so it doesn't make any permanent changes to your system at all,
just reboot again and you are back to normal if normal is where you want to be.
Here's a direct link to the .iso (http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso)

[Judeau]

Is there a rule on posting auctions that ended? I forgot to bid on this one and am still kicking myself for missing it.

Just thought that maybe a seller may have a duplicate item and will relist it at that price. I've given up on this guy though. I emailed him too, but no response. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

Edit: removed link because of fishy seller.

[VanG]

well you can stop kicking yourself now /images/graemlins/tongue.gif, because that minimum bid was a mistake and the seller ended the auction early because of that.

[ape2020]

[ QUOTE ]
Judeau said:
Is there a rule on posting auctions that ended? I forgot to bid on and am still kicking myself for missing it.

Just thought that maybe a seller may have a duplicate item and will relist it at that price. I've given up on this guy though. I emailed him too, but no response. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I would also be wary of this seller as he is listing bootlegs right now. You need to be suspecious of sellers willing to sell boots as they tend to be a little more dishonest then others.

Oh and if the auction lasted until near the end the seller might have been fishing for a bidding war. I mean even if you did get a bid in they might have taken it down near the end if they bid weren't high enough. I see this a lot of times where seller put out a rock bottom price then if the bids don't come in, "oops mistake in listing close that auction". So I doubt you would have gotten that it a good price especially with their over inflated shipping cost.

-ape2020

[Judeau]

[ QUOTE ]
VanG said:
well you can stop kicking yourself now /images/graemlins/tongue.gif, because that minimum bid was a mistake and the seller ended the auction early because of that.

[/ QUOTE ]
Ahhh... Doi. My bad. That makes sense now. I didn't think I got home too late to bid on it.

[Judeau]

[ QUOTE ]
Ape2020 said:
[ QUOTE ]
Judeau said:
Is there a rule on posting auctions that ended? I forgot to bid on this one and am still kicking myself for missing it.

Just thought that maybe a seller may have a duplicate item and will relist it at that price. I've given up on this guy though. I emailed him too, but no response. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I would also be wary of this seller as he is listing bootlegs right now. You need to be suspecious of sellers willing to sell boots as they tend to be a little more dishonest then others.

Oh and if the auction lasted until near the end the seller might have been fishing for a bidding war. I mean even if you did get a bid in they might have taken it down near the end if they bid weren't high enough. I see this a lot of times where seller put out a rock bottom price then if the bids don't come in, "oops mistake in listing close that auction". So I doubt you would have gotten that it a good price especially with their over inflated shipping cost.

-ape2020

[/ QUOTE ]
Ah. I didn't know they could do that if I had bid on the item. I would think there would be a rule against that.

The item did say the 9-disc release (for the Love Hina Perfect Collection) in bold letters. So I figured it was the real deal. Since all the boots are 4 or 3 I think. Anyhoo, I didn't notice the other auctions he had going. I'll remove my link. Thanks for tell me.

Edit: Oh, and dude, could you remove the link in your post (within my quote)? /images/graemlins/happy.gif Thanks.

[something]

[ QUOTE ]
Judeau said:Ah. I didn't know they could do that if I had bid on the item. I would think there would be a rule against that.

[/ QUOTE ]

There is, eBay supposedly looks down on people setting artificial reserves -- that is, setting a reserve in their mind, not selling the auction until it hits that, but never setting an official reserve price with eBay, which costs money.

Since it's actually eBay getting ripped off there too (although only for a couple cents), onme would assume they might actually do something about it if you reported it. However I reported someone like this before and saw no evidence that anything happened to him.

[ape2020]

[ QUOTE ]
Judeau said:
Ah. I didn't know they could do that if I had bid on the item. I would think there would be a rule against that.

The item did say the 9-disc release (for the Love Hina Perfect Collection) in bold letters. So I figured it was the real deal. Since all the boots are 4 or 3 I think. Anyhoo, I didn't notice the other auctions he had going. I'll remove my link. Thanks for tell me.

Edit: Oh, and dude, could you remove the link in your post (within my quote)? /images/graemlins/happy.gif Thanks.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not saying it wasn't legit just to be a little wary of them since the do sell bootlegs. But looking at their feedback I thing it was more of a fishing expedition then false advertising. Looking back you don't see any of the straight up auctions going cheap.

-ape2020

[ape2020]

[ QUOTE ]
disarm10 said:
[ QUOTE ]
Judeau said:Ah. I didn't know they could do that if I had bid on the item. I would think there would be a rule against that.

[/ QUOTE ]

There is, eBay supposedly looks down on people setting artificial reserves -- that is, setting a reserve in their mind, not selling the auction until it hits that, but never setting an official reserve price with eBay, which costs money.

Since it's actually eBay getting ripped off there too (although only for a couple cents), onme would assume they might actually do something about it if you reported it. However I reported someone like this before and saw no evidence that anything happened to him.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, you don't even see any indications of premture auctions ending in their feedback rating like you do with bid retractions, so its a little hard to tell.

Judeau do you remember when the auction was suppose to end? If it was going to end in say 24 hours or less then I would guess they were fishing for sure. I mean even in a three day auction you should know if your listing is correct or not.

-ape2020

[Japschin]

I asked CS before regarding this. CS said it's the seller's right to end the auctions before they ended. However, Ebay now, has made it that sellers could not end their auctions within the last 12 hours.

[PsychoRabbitt]

[ QUOTE ]
Bulldog said:
[ QUOTE ]
RiggsFanPE said:
I'm not mustering up anything here, however I feel this is an issue.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you're against Chris receiving a commission for any particular transaction, then simply don't use the affiliate link at that time and/or for that affiliate.

This all begs the question as to how/when people use the affiliate links.

Does a person use them for EVERY transaction with a particular affiliate?

Or do they only use them when the items that they are purchasing are related to AOD (anime, manga, cels, etc.), but not for non-AoD related items (i.e. Hollywood films, Star Wars figures, etc.)?

Perhaps a poll/thread might shed some light on how the affiliate links are used (if at all) by the members of AoD. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

A.J.

[/ QUOTE ]

I always use the affiliate link. Hell, my bookmark for TRSI is the same URL as the AOD affiliate link, so even when I go there from another site - Chris gets the credit.

[Half Pain]

Are we only allowed to list eBay auctions for DVD stuff? I'd like to make a post about the comics I'm trying sell (Ultimate Spider-Man and Ultimate X-Men), but I don't want to until I know that it's okay.

[something]

[ QUOTE ]
Half Pain said:
Are we only allowed to list eBay auctions for DVD stuff? I'd like to make a post about the comics I'm trying sell (Ultimate Spider-Man and Ultimate X-Men), but I don't want to until I know that it's okay.

[/ QUOTE ]

People have already listed non-DVD stuff, but I do believe Chris said he wants it to remain anime/manga related, i.e. no Spiderman and such. I may be remembering incorrectly.

[BULLDOG1]

[ QUOTE ]
disarm10 said:
[ QUOTE ]
Half Pain said:
Are we only allowed to list eBay auctions for DVD stuff? I'd like to make a post about the comics I'm trying sell (Ultimate Spider-Man and Ultimate X-Men), but I don't want to until I know that it's okay.

[/ QUOTE ]

People have already listed non-DVD stuff, but I do believe Chris said he wants it to remain anime/manga related, i.e. no Spiderman and such. I may be remembering incorrectly.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, he listed a DVD player....and that's not really anime/manga related. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Still, I would think any auctions that are posted here could contribute to AoD if/when a person uses the affiliate link.

It all depends on just how far Chris wants to take this "test project"......IOW, just where he wants to draw the line.

Something to remember.....the more auctions that are posted here.....the greater potential for supporting AoD via the affiliate link......and the more support for auctions being run by AoDers by giving them more exposure here.

A.J.

[Artie]

I have a suggestion that would ensure you get more commissions: Let the users who post their eBay links here create an affiliate link to their item.

All you need to do is make AoD's CJ PID available, which I believe from looking at your affiliate link above is 1113704. Anyone can then use this form: http://affiliates.ebay.com/tools/linking/ (no login required), Enter the CJ PID, and the URL to their auction (or even the listing of all their items, any eBay URL!), and it gives them back an affiliate link that goes directly to their auction. People can then click the links right in people's posts, and you'd still get commission, so long as the seller created a link to their eBay listing using that form.

I believe this information would be best placed in an eBay Forum FAQ should one ever come about, so people could easily find the information. That is if you choose to go with encouraging people to do this.

I hope it helps.

[fantasydewdrop]

Just wondering, if I were to make a plushie of an anime character myself and the listing was honest about it being home-made and such, would that be okay to list here, or would it count as a bootleg since it's home made and not an official release?

[LOUiE]

[ QUOTE ]
KasiTL said:
Just wondering, if I were to make a plushie of an anime character myself and the listing was honest about it being home-made and such, would that be okay to list here, or would it count as a bootleg since it's home made and not an official release?

[/ QUOTE ]
Wow, there's a lot of gray area there. Chris will have the final say, but I would think as long as you clearly mark the listing as a homemade plushie and that it resembles the character and that this is in no way an official release, I would think it would be okay. Sounds like a neat idea as well. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[ape2020]

I still can't get my browser to connect to the affilation link above. I taken off every thing I can think of that might be stopping me. So I was wondering if anyone here might have an idea.

My browser is Foxfire v1.0.4 and the error message I keep getting is

[ QUOTE ]
The connection was refused when attempting to contact www.qksrv.net (http://www.qksrv.net)

[/ QUOTE ]

I would like to help out this site but I'll be damn if it won't let me.

-ape2020

[hobie]

[ QUOTE ]
Ape2020 said:
I still can't get my browser to connect to the affilation link above. I taken off every thing I can think of that might be stopping me. So I was wondering if anyone here might have an idea.

My browser is Foxfire v1.0.4 and the error message I keep getting is

[ QUOTE ]
The connection was refused when attempting to contact www.qksrv.net (http://www.qksrv.net)

[/ QUOTE ]

I would like to help out this site but I'll be damn if it won't let me.

-ape2020

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmmm, a definite problem. I tried it myself for S&G. No go for me. Then I went and checked, and I'd put qksvr.net in my hosts file to block it. Though you may have blocked the cookie. Some notes on qksrv.net (http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/pest/pest.aspx?id=453060845) Hmmm, searching more, Norton Internet Security defaults to blocking all qksrv.net stuff.

That could be a definite problem if I see someone selling something here that I want. I want to give Chris credit, but qksrv and the company that run it are damn annoying ad wise. = /

[ape2020]

Someone mentioned this I think in another thread but I thought I would ask again since I have some auctions going up.

Can we find out about the CJ PID for AOD? I would like to create links directly to my auctions but still allow Chris to get credit for them.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
With eBay's Flexible Destination Tool, affiliates can create trackable links to any of eBay's millions of Web pages. The Flexible Destination Tool is great for all business models - from content sites to paid search affiliates. Best of all, the Flexible Destination Tool is proven to significantly increase conversion rates and takes just seconds to create.

Use the Flexible Destination Tool below to generate links to any eBay page by simply entering your account ID Commission Junction and the URL of your desired eBay landing page. This tool works for any kind of landing page, from simple eBay banners to Google AdWords creatives. After you have entered the necessary information, press the "Make My Link" button to retrieve your trackable HTML code!

Commission Junction
1 Enter your CJ PID
Example: Find your PID in the CJ link.
It is the number represented by XXXXXX in http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-XXXXXX-5463217
(Please Note: Your PID is not your CJ account number!)

2 Enter the URL of the eBay page that you want to link to:
Example: http://pages.motors.ebay.com/route66/?ssPageName=HA01

3 Enter the click-able text you would like to use:
Example: Click here for eBay
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-ape2020

[Kaikou]

I'm surprised there isn't a rule to prevent sales outside of Ebay in this forum. I wouldn't mind taking chances on selling direct to AOD members, to skip Ebay fees. Are we allowed to sell direct to members of AOD and skip Ebay altogether? I just noticed that Curse listed this way, which might not be tolerated as Chris wouldn't get any money from the transaction.

[Curse_7781]

[ QUOTE ]
Smashingblue said:
I'm surprised there isn't a rule to prevent sales outside of Ebay in this forum. I wouldn't mind taking chances on selling direct to AOD members, to skip Ebay fees. Are we allowed to sell direct to members of AOD and skip Ebay altogether? I just noticed that Curse listed this way, which might not be tolerated as Chris wouldn't get any money from the transaction.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yikes. Sorry about that. /images/graemlins/blush100.gif

It's just that I did that for my Escaflowne Box set on eBay and it ended up being ended early because someone expressed interested in it. I just thought I should list it here first just before I put it on eBay before I do that....it was harmless. I won't do it again.

Edit: I apologize if it was wrong. I say it again: I will list it first before I post.

Enhance the Trance,
Curse

[Kaikou]

[ QUOTE ]
Curse said:
Yikes. Sorry about that. /images/graemlins/blush100.gif

It's just that I did that for my Escaflowne Box set on eBay and it ended up being ended early because someone expressed interested in it. I just thought I should list it here first just before I put it on eBay before I do that....it was harmless. I won't do it again.

Enhance the Trance,
Curse

[/ QUOTE ]

Being that there aren't any set rules for this forum yet, I'm not sure you did anything wrong. I wouldn't mind giving members of AOD first dibs on items before putting them on Ebay, but it's all up to Chris.

[Curse_7781]

[ QUOTE ]
Smashingblue said:
[ QUOTE ]
Curse said:
Yikes. Sorry about that. /images/graemlins/blush100.gif

It's just that I did that for my Escaflowne Box set on eBay and it ended up being ended early because someone expressed interested in it. I just thought I should list it here first just before I put it on eBay before I do that....it was harmless. I won't do it again.

Enhance the Trance,
Curse

[/ QUOTE ]

Being that there aren't any set rules for this forum yet, I'm not sure you did anything wrong. I wouldn't mind giving members of AOD first dibs on items before putting them on Ebay, but it's all up to Chris.

[/ QUOTE ]

Like I said....if I did anything wrong.... I apologize and I promise to list it first on eBay before I post it here on AoD.com

Sorry to Chris.

Enhance the Trance,
Curse

[ape2020]

[ QUOTE ]
Curse said:
[ QUOTE ]
Smashingblue said:
[ QUOTE ]
Curse said:
Yikes. Sorry about that. /images/graemlins/blush100.gif

It's just that I did that for my Escaflowne Box set on eBay and it ended up being ended early because someone expressed interested in it. I just thought I should list it here first just before I put it on eBay before I do that....it was harmless. I won't do it again.


[/ QUOTE ]

Being that there aren't any set rules for this forum yet, I'm not sure you did anything wrong. I wouldn't mind giving members of AOD first dibs on items before putting them on Ebay, but it's all up to Chris.

[/ QUOTE ]

Like I said....if I did anything wrong.... I apologize and I promise to list it first on eBay before I post it here on AoD.com

Sorry to Chris.


[/ QUOTE ]

While what Curse did is a little questionable, it does highlight a need for info from Chris on what limits and direction he wants this forum to go.

I asked if he could provide certain info so we can create links directly to our auctions that will still give credit to AOD. That way people can hit the link instead of having to go the eBay link above and then the extra step of finding the auction again.

-ape2020

[BULLDOG1]

[ QUOTE ]
LOUiE said:
No time like the present to sign up and bid and get Chris $20 like that... well, as long as you win.

[/ QUOTE ]


"As long as I win"..... heh......that turned out to be the least of my problems. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[ QUOTE ]
LOUiE said:
Then you can be opened up to the giant world of ebay possibilities. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Heh..

And a part of me is wondering if things would have been better if I had never been exposed to what can be had on eBay. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

At least..... without eBay, my budget would probably be in much better shape than it is. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

A.J.

[The Pirate Queen]

If you're looking to buy something, would it be allowed to post stating so? Similar to the posts gauging interest in something, but in reverse - the person who has the requested item could then put up an eBay auction, etc.

Thoughts?

[BULLDOG1]

[ QUOTE ]
Dani said:
If you're looking to buy something, would it be allowed to post stating so? Similar to the posts gauging interest in something, but in reverse - the person who has the requested item could then put up an eBay auction, etc.

Thoughts?

[/ QUOTE ]

Personally, I think this idea has great potential..

However, I can see a possible major hangup:

Since it seems that this forum's primary reason for existance is to generate affiliate commissions, I would think that all such "transactions" would be required to take place on eBay.....IOWs, no personal deals between members AoD for items that are posted outside of eBay.

The posting of such "want" ads would probably encourage such direct transactions since there would be an interested buyer right from the start......as opposed to the seller paying eBay's fees to list the item in order to find out if there are any interested bidders.....not to mention avoiding payment of eBay's FVF and paying any Paypal fees (if applicable).

This is also a likely end result of when people post about items they are thinking of listing for auction in order to "gauge interest". Again, what's to stop a deal from being made outside of eBay?

I guess it all comes down to whether or not Chris is "okay" with having this forum being used for the occasional "private" deal.

If he solely wanted to focus on auctions themselves, then he would require that only actual auction listings could be solicited.....not just merchandise that is available for sale and "might" be listed.

A.J.

[ape2020]

[ QUOTE ]
Bulldog said:
[ QUOTE ]
Dani said:
If you're looking to buy something, would it be allowed to post stating so? Similar to the posts gauging interest in something, but in reverse - the person who has the requested item could then put up an eBay auction, etc.

Thoughts?

[/ QUOTE ]
The posting of such "want" ads would probably encourage such direct transactions since there would be an interested buyer right from the start......as opposed to the seller paying eBay's fees to list the item in order to find out if there are any interested bidders.....not to mention avoiding payment of eBay's FVF and paying any Paypal fees (if applicable).



[/ QUOTE ]

This is my problem with this idea as its too close to a trading or private sales type forum. And really if you want an eBay item you should just search eBay. Requesting it here wouldn't mean much if the seller was to reply by posting it on eBay where others might bid on them. It would only work if the seller did a BIN and gave the edge to buyer requesting the item. Plus there is already site for this type of idea Animeka (http://www.animeka.net/). I don't see this as very good idea, gauging interest in an auction is one thing and even that lead to few private sales in the begining. This would be even more likely and actaully would only make sense if it was a private deal.

-ape2020

[BULLDOG1]

[ QUOTE ]
Ape2020 said:
[ QUOTE ]
Bulldog said:
[ QUOTE ]
Dani said:
If you're looking to buy something, would it be allowed to post stating so? Similar to the posts gauging interest in something, but in reverse - the person who has the requested item could then put up an eBay auction, etc.

Thoughts?

[/ QUOTE ]
The posting of such "want" ads would probably encourage such direct transactions since there would be an interested buyer right from the start......as opposed to the seller paying eBay's fees to list the item in order to find out if there are any interested bidders.....not to mention avoiding payment of eBay's FVF and paying any Paypal fees (if applicable).



[/ QUOTE ]

This is my problem with this idea as its too close to a trading or private sales type forum. And really if you want an eBay item you should just search eBay. Requesting it here wouldn't mean much if the seller was to reply by posting it on eBay where others might bid on them. It would only work if the seller did a BIN and gave the edge to buyer requesting the item. Plus there is already site for this type of idea Animeka (http://www.animeka.net/). I don't see this as very good idea, gauging interest in an auction is one thing and even that lead to few private sales in the begining. This would be even more likely and actaully would only make sense if it was a private deal.

-ape2020

[/ QUOTE ]

Actually, I failed to mention earlier that eBay already HAS something in place to deal with this sort of situation.....a place where people can list items that they are interested in buying:

Want It Now (http://pages.ebay.com/wantitnow/index.html)

I'm not sure how useful/reliable this feature actually is, since I've never had any need to use it.....but I just thought I would mention it.

A.J.

[Benoit]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this.
I figured since it was all about eBay, it could fit here.

As we all know, a lot of bootlegs get sold on eBay from Hong Kong, with crappy subtitles.

However, apparently fan-burned bootlegs also get up for auction. Wouldn't that be against eBay's rules? I know that in the end eBay wouldn't care, so are the companies aware of it? Can't they be reported or something?

[The Pirate Queen]

[ QUOTE ]
Benoit said:
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this.
I figured since it was all about eBay, it could fit here.

As we all know, a lot of bootlegs get sold on eBay from Hong Kong, with crappy subtitles.

However, apparently fan-burned bootlegs also get up for auction. Wouldn't that be against eBay's rules? I know that in the end eBay wouldn't care, so are the companies aware of it? Can't they be reported or something?

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It is illegal, and US companies are aware of it, but the only person/group who can report it to eBay and have it removed is a legal rights-holder to the title.

As to why US companies aren't taking a more agressive stance - I don't know.

[Pelianth]

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I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this.
I figured since it was all about eBay, it could fit here.

As we all know, a lot of bootlegs get sold on eBay from Hong Kong, with crappy subtitles.

However, apparently fan-burned bootlegs also get up for auction. Wouldn't that be against eBay's rules? I know that in the end eBay wouldn't care, so are the companies aware of it? Can't they be reported or something?

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It is illegal, and US companies are aware of it, but the only person/group who can report it to eBay and have it removed is a legal rights-holder to the title.

As to why US companies aren't taking a more agressive stance - I don't know.

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I have noticed that a timely word to ADV's customer service will occasionally produce desirable results for their titles.

[Iridium]

I've added links in the first post of this thread to the relevant "1 & Only" threads for the eBay forum. That list will be updated as necessary.

[guyver83]

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I've added links in the first post of this thread to the relevant "1 & Only" threads for the eBay forum. That list will be updated as necessary.

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I started a new revolution... heee

[Iridium]

In order to clarify the rules regarding "backchannel" buying and selling, the following information has been added to the first post of this thread:

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About The Purpose Of This Forum:
As this eBay forum was opened specifically to complement AnimeOnDVD's affiliate relationship with eBay, it is expected that posters will respect this relationship and and conduct their transactions through eBay's facilities.

It is not considered appropriate to encourage others to contact you directly for buy/sell/trading business. Such threads will be removed, or the poster will be asked to make modifications. There are various other resources available on other boards for person to person anime trading, and you are encouraged to use them if you feel that is how you want to sell your items.


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[Collectonian]

Can we get the info on how to make our links affiliate links added to the first post so its easier to find?

[Iridium]

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Can we get the info on how to make our links affiliate links added to the first post so its easier to find?

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I'm a little confused as there's already a separate pinned thread (http://forums.animeondvd.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1063531&page=0&view=colla psed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) about that. Is there something I'm missing here? /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

[Collectonian]

Weird! That thread does not appear in the eBay forum for me at all as a pinned thread. Didn't know it had already been done. /images/graemlins/shy00000.gif

Edit: got it to show up by changing the "show active" to all dates.

[Iridium]

I modified the main post to list which Paul Champagne artboxes are licensed and therefore postable in this forum.

[MrDisco]

are we allowed to post non-anime/manga/etc auctions?

[Iridium]

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are we allowed to post non-anime/manga/etc auctions?

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Yes, but hopefully the anime/manga items will dominate the forum as this AoD of course.

[Iridium]

Link to eBay Rollcall thread added in the first post.

[Iridium]

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End-Of-Auction Reminder Posts
Please use a maximum of one (1) post per batch of auctions to remind users that the auction is ending soon. A batch is defined as a group of auctions all ending within the same 24 hour period.

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Added this text.

[Iridium]

Added a link to the thread about reporting bootlegs on eBay.

[Iridium]

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Please combine auction ads into one thread so that the forum is not monopolized by high-volume sellers.

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I've been privately asking people to combine their threads for a while now, but I think it's about time to put this down here for all to see.

[ape2020]

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Please combine auction ads into one thread so that the forum is not monopolized by high-volume sellers.

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I've been privately asking people to combine their threads for a while now, but I think it's about time to put this down here for all to see.

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Now I do this for auctions within a week from each other but is it okay to make new ones for say a set of auctions more then a month apart? I've seen some sellers conbine all their auctions from several months with those like me dump a new post if the auctions are weeks apart.

-chimp1010

[Iridium]

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Please combine auction ads into one thread so that the forum is not monopolized by high-volume sellers.

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I've been privately asking people to combine their threads for a while now, but I think it's about time to put this down here for all to see.

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Now I do this for auctions within a week from each other but is it okay to make new ones for say a set of auctions more then a month apart? I've seen some sellers conbine all their auctions from several months with those like me dump a new post if the auctions are weeks apart.

-chimp1010

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No problem, as long as they're not taking extra space on the first 20 or so threads.

[Yoko_Menai]

well I finally came across my first phishing/spoof site while surfing around on Ebay. I clicked this one listing and it took me directly to a page wanting me to sign in with my username and password. I immediately left and reported the listing to a live ebay representative.

Just so you know they are out there, so if you ever come across something like that dont go through with the login process. Find the Live Help area or report it via their "Spoof Site/Email" in the Help secion

[daxomni]

I have about 100 anime/hentai DVD's I would like to be rid of. I bought them from US-based websites like TRSI, Animenation, Overstock, and Deep Discount. However, I have no interest in listing all of them and watching the auctions end with no bidders. Can I just create a post with all 100 and then list whichever ones people show any interest in on ebay? I don't have any problem helping Chris out as part of the process but I don't want to put a lot of effort into it or take on needless risk with 100 listing fees.

[ape2020]

I have about 100 anime/hentai DVD's I would like to be rid of. I bought them from US-based websites like TRSI, Animenation, Overstock, and Deep Discount. However, I have no interest in listing all of them and watching the auctions end with no bidders. Can I just create a post with all 100 and then list whichever ones people show any interest in on ebay? I don't have any problem helping Chris out as part of the process but I don't want to put a lot of effort into it or take on needless risk with 100 listing fees.

Forum members in the have in the past posted list of what they could put up on ebay to gauge interest. It could be especially helpful if you also note how flexible your are in shipping overseas as there are plenty of AODers from all across the global here.

That being said remember many of us are some really cheap ass buyers and may not be the best gauge. Then again many of those same cheap asses will chim in and tell you what the eBay market potenial for your stuff as well. :D :D :D

-ape2020

[Iridium]

I have about 100 anime/hentai DVD's I would like to be rid of. I bought them from US-based websites like TRSI, Animenation, Overstock, and Deep Discount. However, I have no interest in listing all of them and watching the auctions end with no bidders. Can I just create a post with all 100 and then list whichever ones people show any interest in on ebay? I don't have any problem helping Chris out as part of the process but I don't want to put a lot of effort into it or take on needless risk with 100 listing fees.
We've had a few people do this in an obvious attempt to deal outside of eBay, but you sound legit so I don't see a problem with this.

Of course if someone comes along in an obvious attempt to sell outside of eBay, their thread will be shut down.

[Talyn]

I added more items, some anime and live action, to sell on ebay, am I allowed to update my thread? or is that considered a bump? I won't do any posting till I know for sure and potentially do something I'm not supposed to do.

[something]

I added more items, some anime and live action, to sell on ebay, am I allowed to update my thread? or is that considered a bump? I won't do any posting till I know for sure and potentially do something I'm not supposed to do.
If you're adding additional auctions, you can bump. The alternative is making a whole new thread, so bumping for this is allowed.

[JINROH]

Earlier on in this thread,Chris mentioned there are areas on the forum for members to sell to each other.... Where is the FS/FT forum ? Some of the other forums I am a member on (HardOCP) have a FS/FT forum.

I think I just got ripped for a boxset on Ebay,and want to see if I can get one (legit) second hand somewhere else.

[ape2020]

Earlier on in this thread,Chris mentioned there are areas on the forum for members to sell to each other.... Where is the FS/FT forum ? Some of the other forums I am a member on (HardOCP) have a FS/FT forum.

I think I just got ripped for a boxset on Ebay,and want to see if I can get one (legit) second hand somewhere else.

No Chris only mentioned that there are OTHER BOARDS that you can trade or sell at. Sites like DVDtalk.

There is absolutely no private selling here except listing eBay auctions.

-ape2020

[KevinTRod]

Is there a rule about advertising items you may have in an eBay store, or is this thread only to inform about auctions?

[BurtKenobi]

Are Amazon Marketplace listings allowed?

[Kitelight]

Are Amazon Marketplace listings allowed?

I don't that Amazon Marketplace listings are allowed.

[Kitelight]

How about half.com or overstock.com?

[kurosaki86]

Hi, I thought I'd post this query in this thread as I could not find any rules on the posting/not posting of price guaging threads.

I will be listing some OOP anime dvd's on ebay under this alias http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/shagrat65 over the next week or so and I have done a bit of market research but thought best to ask you guys. Here is what I am planning to sell (all R1) and what I think they could sell for; could you guys help me out with my estimates and tell me whether they are too high, low.....? All sets are in excellent condition and full working order.

Cardcaptor Sakura Clow Book 1 $200-$300
Cardcaptor Sakura Movie 1 LE w/Pencil Board $20-$30
Tenchi Muyo OVA Ultimate Edition Set with chapter sheet (will that make a difference?) $50-$100
Tenchi Universe 1-8 with artbox and *some* finger puppets $70-$100 (set aquired individually then box aquired seperately)
Tenchi in Tokyo 1-8 $50
Tenchi: Mihoshi/Pretty Sammy Special $???

I am in the UK, but I know the market for some of these products, especially in america has a high demand. I am not trying to scalp people here but I would be a liar if I said the prospect of quite a bit of money is not leading me to do it. However, they have been floating around unused and unwatched for a few years now.

Cheers for any help/info you guys may be able to offer me.

Edit - Oh and does anyone know how much I could ask for this?

http://www.yesasia.com/global/1003267323-0-0-0-en/info.html

[ape2020]

While trying to gauge prices here before listing is okay. I should warn you that most of the members here are pretty savvy on pricing and the response you get might be way lower then what your finding through comparing items on eBay itself. With the exception of maybe Cardcaptor Sakura Clow Book 1 I could find all those sets much cheaper then what your hoping for. Even the price your looking at for CCS is more in the range for the entire show and not just half that your listing.

Of course you might find that member that really needs that one piece to complete their collection but you can get that by researching eBay.

As for your Wonderful Days Limited Original Edition
that might be tougher to determine. Most users here are R1, R2 (both Japan and Europe) buyers. Looking on the web I see it running between $60-$140 new. On eBay less deluxe versions are coming in under $20, so who knows.

-ape2020

[kurosaki86]

Thanks for the informative response, since asking I did some further looking round and saw my prices were a bit off target, but again, cheers for the response.

I,m gonna do a little bit more "research" then i'll post some auctions.

Thanks.

[kurosaki86]

Sorry for double posting but I have found out that my Chobits Volume 1 with artbox and stationary set is pretty rare as well. I want to list that. I have found it hard to guage the value as most I see are just normal artboxes with v 1.