The "Fight-o!" chant

[Njr Scrawl]

Do Japanese schoolgirls in sportswear really run in groups/classes chanting "fight-o" together? Any other words?

[Johnny]

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Njr Scrawl said:
Do Japanese schoolgirls in sportswear really run in groups/classes chanting "fight-o" together? Any other words?

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I thought it was more "fight-uh" as in the way the word fight would be pronounced by a Japanese person...

[jmarken]

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Njr Scrawl said:
Do Japanese schoolgirls in sportswear really run in groups/classes chanting "fight-o" together? Any other words?

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Basically yes they do, and not just girls. I wouldn't say it's completely universal though. At our school they chanted "go-he", which I never thought much about, but one day I learned that it was derived from "Go Ahead". My reaction was, "Ooookaaay."

I don't know about other schools, there may be other highly localized chants.

[quenelf]

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johnny said:
I thought it was more "fight-uh" as in the way the word fight would be pronounced by a Japanese person...

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Actually, 'fight-o' is roughly the way the word fight would be pronounced by a Japanese person. In katakana, it's 'faito' (ファイト). T at end of word gets an 'o' after it (=> to); it can't get an 'u' after it (as some other letters do), because there is no Japanese 'tu' that would be pronounced 'tsu'.

A similar frequently-used (in anime songs etc) word is '�ート' (haato) = heart.

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[Johnny]

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johnny said:
I thought it was more "fight-uh" as in the way the word fight would be pronounced by a Japanese person...

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Actually, 'fight-o' is roughly the way the word fight would be pronounced by a Japanese person. In katakana, it's 'faito' (ファイト). T at end of word gets an 'o' after it (=> to); it can't get an 'u' after it (as some other letters do), because there is no Japanese 'tu' that would be pronounced 'tsu'.

A similar frequently-used (in anime songs etc) word is '�ート' (haato) = heart.

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Ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Kintaro]

Yes, they do.

A bit off-topic, it took me ages to figure out that "donmai" means "Don't mind" !

[LupusUmbrus]

Continuing slightly off topic: Personal favorite borrowed word might be ãƒ?イã‚*ング　(baikingu -> from viking, but means buffet / smorgasbord). Was rather confused the first time I came across it. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[GanChan]

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LupusUmbrus said:
Continuing slightly off topic: Personal favorite borrowed word might be ãƒ?イã‚*ング　(baikingu -> from viking, but means buffet / smorgasbord). Was rather confused the first time I came across it. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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It confuses Babelfish too. As I recall, if it comes across the phrase "breakfast buffet" in Japanese, it translates it into "Viking breakfast." I used to wonder why the Japanese liked Scandinavian food so much....

[Kintaro]

Same with me! Btw, do americans / english know the word "smorgasbord"? I know a lot of english words just by reading all sorts of books, but I had never heard of "smorgasbord" before I found it in my denshi jisho.

[mrgazpacho]

Given that "smorgasbord" is a Norweigian word (where's Skywise?!), I'm not surprised at the linkages... /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[badasscat]

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Kintaro said:
Same with me! Btw, do americans / english know the word "smorgasbord"?

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We know it, yeah, but I wouldn't say it's in common usage. Maybe regionally, in the upper midwest where there are a lot of Scandinavians (in parts of the upper midwest you may as well be living in Norway). We just use "buffet" more often, although you sometimes see "smorgasbord" for dramatic effect - it's a word that seems to add emphasis over a standard buffet. "Buffet" sounds more friendly, though.

btw, my wife occasionally says "faito! faito!" as sort of a joke whenever she's trying to encourage me, so I think people must really say this in school there. I mean she got that from somewhere and I doubt it's anime...

[wrex]

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Kintaro said:
Same with me! Btw, do americans / english know the word "smorgasbord"? I know a lot of english words just by reading all sorts of books, but I had never heard of "smorgasbord" before I found it in my denshi jisho.

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Sure, we say that in Hawaii... although most of the time we say "buffet."

[Pfil]

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mrgazpacho said:
Given that "smorgasbord" is a Norweigian word (where's Skywise?!), I'm not surprised at the linkages... /images/graemlins/happy.gif

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"Smörgåsbord" is Swedish, not Norwegian. /images/graemlins/happy.gif Literally the words mean 'butter-goose table', though I'm not sure where the goose part comes from since as far as I can tell the term 'smörgås' is used for any kind of bread with butter (optionally with meat or salad, etc). Maybe 'gås' can mean something else in Swedish, or maybe they used to eat them with goose meat (wonder what that tastes like), I don't know. I've always thought it was an odd term to show up in the English language.

In Norway we'd call a smörgås 'smørbrød' (butter-bread), but we'd say 'buffé' or 'koldtbord' ('cold table') instead of 'smörgåsbord'.
Now you know more about Scandinavian sandwiches than you ever wanted to. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[Pfil]

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Njr Scrawl said:
Do Japanese schoolgirls in sportswear really run in groups/classes chanting "fight-o" together? Any other words?

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If you want to see live schoolgirls in sportswear (who doesn't?) chanting 'faito faito', watch the movie Hana and Alice. /images/graemlins/happy.gif If you don't, watch it anyway as it's a good movie. The current R2 DVD doesn't have subtitles, but there's supposed to be a subtitled version coming out later.

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Hunter Pfil said:
Literally the words mean 'butter-goose table', though I'm not sure where the goose part comes from since as far as I can tell the term 'smörgås' is used for any kind of bread with butter (optionally with meat or salad, etc).

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The exact origins of the word "smörgås" is not certain, but it is believed that the goose part comes from the lumps of butter that float on the milk, like geese, while making butter. There are apparently many examples from older Swedish texts where "smörgås" is used to mean the butter that you spread over the bread, not the bread+butter combination.

At least that's what Google tells me. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[Kintaro]

Ah...thanks you two. Still a lot to learn!

[Pfil]

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Thomas Bellman said:
The exact origins of the word "smörgås" is not certain, but it is believed that the goose part comes from the lumps of butter that float on the milk, like geese, while making butter. There are apparently many examples from older Swedish texts where "smörgås" is used to mean the butter that you spread over the bread, not the bread+butter combination.

At least that's what Google tells me. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

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Ah cool, I've always wondered about that. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[mrgazpacho]

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Hunter Pfil said:

"Smörgåsbord" is Swedish, not Norwegian. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

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Thanks for the correction. I knew there was at least one more Norwegian around here, but I forgot who... /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif (dunno how I could forget, with that username+avatar though /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif )

[Pfil]

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mrgazpacho said:
Thanks for the correction. I knew there was at least one more Norwegian around here, but I forgot who... /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif (dunno how I could forget, with that username+avatar though /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif )

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There's also HCE, though I haven't seen him post in a long time. (He may still be hanging out in the music forum, which regrettably I rarely take the time to check out...) There are a few Swedes too, Thomas who posted above, Ericf, Pyocola, and I think a couple others that I'm not remembering at the moment.

People do seem to notice my avatar/user name. /images/graemlins/happy.gif 'Course, people probably think I'm just trying to be funny, but I'm actually genuinely fond of Pfil as a character, as much as anyone from regular (non-ecchi) anime/manga that I like (Sakura, Sae, Ahiru, etc...)

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[Mahlernut]

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Hunter Pfil said:
People do seem to notice my avatar/user name. /images/graemlins/happy.gif 'Course, people probably think I'm just trying to be funny, but I'm actually genuinely fond of Pfil as a character, as much as anyone from regular (non-ecchi) anime/manga that I like (Sakura, Sae, Ahiru, etc...)

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Face it, you're just a perv /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Pfil]

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Mahlernut said:
Face it, you're just a perv /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Hey!

... okay, I admit it. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

(Nice to hear from you again btw. I suck for not replying to emails...)

[mrgazpacho]

I actually met Ericf in Australia when he was here back in 2002 - he dropped in on the anime festival in Sydney /images/graemlins/cool.gif

And Pfil is so cute /images/graemlins/happy.gif Dunno how she can stay so innocent /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[Pfil]

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I actually met Ericf in Australia when he was here back in 2002 - he dropped in on the anime festival in Sydney /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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Cool. /images/graemlins/happy.gif He doesn't seem to be posting very often lately either though. (I've actually wondered if Pyocola == Ericf, but they seem to have different posting styles, so probably not...)

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And Pfil is so cute /images/graemlins/happy.gif Dunno how she can stay so innocent /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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She's got a good heart. /images/graemlins/happy.gif (Which I'm always a sucker for...) Though it's fun to see Pamila try to corrupt her. And Pfil's not always quite as innocent as she seems. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[EmperorBrandon]

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Kintaro said:
Same with me! Btw, do americans / english know the word "smorgasbord"?

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We know it, yeah, but I wouldn't say it's in common usage. Maybe regionally, in the upper midwest where there are a lot of Scandinavians (in parts of the upper midwest you may as well be living in Norway). We just use "buffet" more often, although you sometimes see "smorgasbord" for dramatic effect - it's a word that seems to add emphasis over a standard buffet. "Buffet" sounds more friendly, though.



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I think the only reason I know of the word is the Charlotte's Web animated movie. /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

[wanfu2k1]

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Kintaro said:
Same with me! Btw, do americans / english know the word "smorgasbord"? I know a lot of english words just by reading all sorts of books, but I had never heard of "smorgasbord" before I found it in my denshi jisho.

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Can't say I really every use that word but I do know what it means.

[KK1]

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Hunter Pfil said:
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mrgazpacho said:
I actually met Ericf in Australia when he was here back in 2002 - he dropped in on the anime festival in Sydney /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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Cool. /images/graemlins/happy.gif He doesn't seem to be posting very often lately either though. (I've actually wondered if Pyocola == Ericf, but they seem to have different posting styles, so probably not...)

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And Pfil is so cute /images/graemlins/happy.gif Dunno how she can stay so innocent /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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She's got a good heart. /images/graemlins/happy.gif (Which I'm always a sucker for...) Though it's fun to see Pamila try to corrupt her. And Pfil's not always quite as innocent as she seems. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

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Phil has to be one of the cutest manga characters ever, I can't believe BF has never been made into an anime, though I guess drawing the insects and small animals as well as Kondom does would blow the whole budget of a hentai.

[quenelf]

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KK1 said:
Phil has to be one of the cutest manga characters ever, I can't believe BF has never been made into an anime, though I


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Heh, I didn't even realise it was manga! I came across references to it (but have still never actually read any) before I got into manga/anime at all...

Maybe it wasn't as popular in Japan as elsewhere, hence no anime?

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[KK1]

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quen said:
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KK1 said:
Phil has to be one of the cutest manga characters ever, I can't believe BF has never been made into an anime, though I


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Heh, I didn't even realise it was manga! I came across references to it (but have still never actually read any) before I got into manga/anime at all...

Maybe it wasn't as popular in Japan as elsewhere, hence no anime?

--quen

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Hmm they're still releasing trade paperbacks in Japan, according to the website somethings even coming out this month, and the originals have been out over there for probably 10 years. There must be some interest. I'm surprised the author never tried anything that could be sold to a mainstream audience, his style blows away most other manga artists I see. I thought that was what alot of mangaka did, do some hentai or doujinshi build a following then go mainstream...?