View Full Version : Zatch Bell - confirmed edit
Jarred
07-28-2005, 06:13 PM
Thought I'd post this, since I just confirmed this today at Kinokuniya.
I got a copy of Zatch Bell #1 from Viz Media, an Action label title rated T. On the credits page there is the disclaimer about nudity and/or excessive violence being edited. Within the first few pages I knew something was up when I saw the character Zatch wearing poorly drawn boxers. Sure enough, after looking at the first couple pages at Kino's, he was nekkid in the original with genitalia showing, as he was being flown in on the bird into the boy's room.
Gatts
07-28-2005, 06:23 PM
Gash/Zatch runs around naked pretty often early in the series so I'm not too surprised about that. What I'm wonder about is the "excessive violence" being edited.
harrywang
07-28-2005, 06:30 PM
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Gatts said:
Gash/Zatch runs around naked pretty often early in the series so I'm not too surprised about that. What I'm wonder about is the "excessive violence" being edited.
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Just when i thought it would be safe to get the manga, because the anime was already edited. Looks like I should have done what other people were doing and buy the R2's and tanks.
Texhnolyze
07-28-2005, 06:32 PM
Pretty much figured this was going to happen. Sigh..
Jarred
07-28-2005, 06:33 PM
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Gatts said:
Gash/Zatch runs around naked pretty often early in the series so I'm not too surprised about that. What I'm wonder about is the "excessive violence" being edited.
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I don't have the Viz book in front of me, so I might have the wording wrong, but I remember "nudity" and "violence" being in the disclaimer. It might just be a standard disclaimer used in all approprite books from now on, and there might not be any violence edited. I didn't buy the 1st volume of the original tank, so I can't compare. But ugh, it's going to be in my head the entire duration of the first volume.
Kevinroc
07-28-2005, 06:55 PM
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Texhnolyze said:
Pretty much figured this was going to happen. Sigh..
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Yup. When Viz was talking about this at Comic Con, I whispered to Osaka to get another entry ready for his Manga Edits page.
Vertical_Ed
07-28-2005, 07:07 PM
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Kevinroc said:
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Texhnolyze said:
Pretty much figured this was going to happen. Sigh..
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Yup. When Viz was talking about this at Comic Con, I whispered to Osaka to get another entry ready for his Manga Edits page.
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Flip through the Zatch B
Wrestle with VizMe
Something is bubbling
Behind my back
The mind is ready to blow
(guitar chord!!
guitar chord!!)
Say it ain't so
Viz's drug is a heartbreaker
Say it ain't so
My love is a heart taker
BlazinTy
07-28-2005, 07:57 PM
scratch one more title off my list if they edited violence as well as little boy nudity.
Rando
07-28-2005, 08:14 PM
Figures.
Good thing I don't buy shit from Viz anymore.
Jarred
07-28-2005, 08:37 PM
Okay, so now that I am at home, here's the disclaimer for those interested.
"Some scenes of nudity and violence have been modified from the original Japanese edition."
harrywang
07-28-2005, 08:46 PM
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jarhead said:
Okay, so now that I am at home, here's the disclaimer for those interested.
"Some scenes of nudity and violence have been modified from the original Japanese edition."
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Viz really on a roll here, they should just change that to their company slogan.
Jake_Forbes
07-28-2005, 09:23 PM
Hooray for protesting through song!
Here's my manga censorship limerick!
Some people like manga with nipples.
But the publishers fear they'll cause ripples.
To protect us from sin
Manga censors step in
Now it's safe 'nuf for Nuns in their whipples.
Jarred
07-28-2005, 09:38 PM
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Jake_Forbes said:
Hooray for protesting through song!
Here's my manga censorship limerick!
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I propose that from now on, all responses to editing threads must be in one of these two formats! /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
GyBaNO
07-28-2005, 10:00 PM
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jarhead said:
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Jake_Forbes said:
Hooray for protesting through song!
Here's my manga censorship limerick!
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I propose that from now on, all responses to editing threads must be in one of these two formats! /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
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I'll try to seriously make a habit out of doing so. I love limericks.
That was a great one, Jake!
ZeframMann
07-29-2005, 12:32 AM
Way to go, Viz.
*updates sig*
Johnny
07-29-2005, 06:39 AM
/images/graemlins/relief1.gif I couldn't forgive the anime edits, but I was nearly gonna forgive the horrible name change and get the manga. Until I saw this that is /images/graemlins/anger200.gif
Noodle
07-29-2005, 09:10 AM
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ZeframMann said:
*updates sig*
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...Except that now your signature is quite long .. and way over the 4 line limit. /images/graemlins/wink.gif *prod*
hobie
07-29-2005, 03:55 PM
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jarhead said:
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Jake_Forbes said:
Hooray for protesting through song!
Here's my manga censorship limerick!
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I propose that from now on, all responses to editing threads must be in one of these two formats! /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
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This censorship makes no sense at all
Its like beating our heads on the wall
It drives us insane
We cry out in vain
Then hope that the companies fall
(Ok, I don't wish that really, but trying to go with the theme here)
Jarred
07-29-2005, 08:39 PM
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Jake_Forbes said:
Here's my manga censorship limerick!
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Copied from my AoD Pile Update blog entry:
My god what have they done to poor Gash
At first they renamed him to Zatch
Then covered his meat
With boxers not briefs
And now many throw the book out of their stash
bayoab
07-30-2005, 01:12 AM
As much as I do not support buying editing things, I will still be buying this to compare in detail to the first Japanese volume (unless someone else produces a list of edits, including translation, first).
Viz should just go rename themselves to Editz at this point.
I wonder if they ever plan on releasing the original. And what is even stranger, a T rating on a childrens manga and they still had to edit it!
hobie
07-30-2005, 03:39 AM
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bayoab said:
As much as I do not support buying editing things, I will still be buying this to compare in detail to the first Japanese volume (unless someone else produces a list of edits, including translation, first).
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I should have access to a Viz copy closer to release date, so I can make scans like I have for TenTen and By the Sword. If someone can provide me with tank scans I can see about getting them hosted as well.
This limerick idea is fun.
You, see there's this company called Viz.
And they're quite a player in this manga biz.
Yet lately they've seemed rather bothered,
Leading to edits that are odder and odder.
Poor Zatch, clothing optional's just the way that he is.
Gonfreaks
07-30-2005, 10:01 PM
*sigh* They already disappointed me this week by changing Don Pachi's name in Bobobo (look at sig), and now more edits. That's two strikes this week Viz!
Harafan
07-31-2005, 12:27 AM
A company saw Pokemon play
And said that mass market's the way
With the censoring bomb
They satisfy Mom
But the readers go far, far away
Zatch Bell 1 is censored all through
From the hope that kids moms will not sue
But kids turn to fans
and learn censoring plans
Now who will be left to buy 2?
A youth manga renamed Zatch Bell
Dropped into the censoring hell
With censoring fixed
His package is nixed
And to little new Gashs, farewell
harrywang
07-31-2005, 01:24 AM
Somebody should send these poems to Viz. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
Dragon_Shiryu
08-01-2005, 10:41 PM
Meh, I started disliking Viz as soon as they changed Saint Seiya, and with all the ones that have followed, I just can't stand the company. That's why I didn't renew my SJ subscription and have stopped buying their manga. I'm utterly dissapointed with them, since they can do a great job *points to Banana Fish, Basara and basically anything not SJ*. While the industry has advanced, they're going backwards.
Thanatos
08-20-2005, 11:13 PM
Jesus H. Why did they license it if they're going to edit out all the little boy penis?
bayoab
08-28-2005, 04:31 AM
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Gatts said:
Gash/Zatch runs around naked pretty often early in the series so I'm not too surprised about that. What I'm wonder about is the "excessive violence" being edited.
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Okay, I've started to go over this with a fine tooth comb... one of these edits is on page 78. They have removed the gun the robber guy is holding toward Suzume's head in the top frame and again in the one below of it, removed the barrel of the gun.
Well they've removed guns before. If I'm remembering correctly Viz won't show them pointing at anyone. I can't remember if the TV broadcast had guns or not. I guess it's just too traumatic for a 13 year old. "Excessive" just got downgraded by the looks of it, too bad.
Gatts
08-28-2005, 08:34 PM
The gun in the TV series was changed to a laser rifle. They used an interesting method to get around Folgore's "quirk" as well. But what will happen when Big Boin shows up? Only time will tell.
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