Viz editing/updating technology, again (Greenwood 7)?

[Ingraman]

In volume 7, on page 26 panel 3, the lines are:

Hasukawa: "What's wrong with an old dial phone? I hate those portable phones that look like toys!"

?Shinobu?: "Then get a phone with voice mail!" (The bold's my fault ^_^ ).

Although I can't read them, I've got the Japanese four-volume Greenwood manga set. The above page is in v3, on page 334, and the corresponding word bubble does have "FAX" (in the roman alphabet), although a fax machine doesn't quite work in the context. The Greenwood manga's been around for a while, and I think that the listing on page 462-63 seems to indicate that the chapter dates from 1989. Sometimes Japan's a bit ahead of the technology curve, but (to me, anyway) an answering machine seems to be a bit more appropriate to the era/situation.

Is Viz again advancing technology in an older manga, as they did with the Maison Ikkoku DVD player? Are answering machines so old that their readers would be clueless? I've got one (but it's tapeless! ;p) for my home phone. Am I so old fashioned? <sniff> ;_;

I don't know if they changed or not.

But I had voice mail at home and work in '89.

[AmusedObserver]

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michaelwb said:
But I had voice mail at home and work in '89.

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wowee. . . I wasn't in the work force back then, old foggie. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[Dylonius Funk]

It's possible they simply went for a translation that rolled off the tounge better. Voice mail vs answering machine, i'd rather say voice mail. It simply sounds better. Heck they'r epretty much synonomous anyway, there's no real difference between an answering machine and voice mail. A voice mail system in your officer will have more features than your home phone's answering machine but they essentially serve the same function. I think the term voice mail was invented to be synonomous with email, to give everything in an office uniform sounding names, i.e voice mail, email, snail mail, etc.

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Viz is doing the time warp again. This time it is MONSTER that changed a bit.

In the scene where the detective talks to Tenma and he is "typing thoughts into the floppy disc in his brain" while talking... Viz changes floppy disc to hard drive!!

I dont understand why, when at the start of this series Viz notes the early chapters are set in the late 80's. Maybe kids will not remember floppies, but this is the Signature line. Most of its readers are picking this lived through floppies, so the technology is supposed to be archaic since it is set in the 80's!

Even more frustrating is how this volume has some fine note left in the gutters between panels. They describe concepts like the German Federal Police (BKA) but they cannot describe what a floppy disc is.

[barbapapa]

lol
Viz is crazy

[christianlf]

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osaka said:
I dont understand why, when at the start of this series Viz notes the early chapters are set in the late 80's. Maybe kids will not remember floppies, but this is the Signature line. Most of its readers are picking this lived through floppies, so the technology is supposed to be archaic since it is set in the 80's!

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Yeah, seriously...I mean, I wouldn't approve of it, but I could least understand their logic if this was a Jump title they were marketing to children, but stuff like Maison Ikkoku and Monster are clearly aimed at older audiences.

Besides the fact that most PCs still come with a floppy drive, last time I checked. They may not be used quite as much as they were in the 80's (or exist in exactly the same appearance), but it's not like they're not still around.

[pete5883]

I don't think this is a case of "updating technology," just sounds like an inexplicable (and IMO inconsequential) change. It's not like hard drives weren't around in the late 80's. Hard drive even seems to make more sense, since you can't exactly take a floppy disk out of your brain /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Rhodes]

ummm it is updating tech and taking out a floppy for an 80s show is pretty common. AI Love has floppies all over. that was the tech at the time. you write info onto a floppy and take it out... no one would rip out the hd to plug it into someone elses pc. why rip out someone's brain when you just need to make a copy of the info you need?

[fantasydewdrop]

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pete5883 said: Hard drive even seems to make more sense, since you can't exactly take a floppy disk out of your brain /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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I know people that joke about sticking flash memory sticks in their heads. Since a floppy isn't that different from a memory stick in function, the joke is still valid in it's own right in certain circles.

Merf. They could have just written a note that a floppy is kind of like a memory card, only bigger and holds less than five megs.

[Nyanyaan]

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KasiTL said:
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pete5883 said: Hard drive even seems to make more sense, since you can't exactly take a floppy disk out of your brain /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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I know people that joke about sticking flash memory sticks in their heads. Since a floppy isn't that different from a memory stick in function, the joke is still valid in it's own right in certain circles.

Merf. They could have just written a note that a floppy is kind of like a memory card, only bigger and holds less than five megs.

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I just can't imagine that a floppy disk would require any definition. It may not be the 5.25 (or even larger) that likely was alluded to in the 80s original, but 3.5s certainly are still around.

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pete5883 said:
I don't think this is a case of "updating technology," just sounds like an inexplicable (and IMO inconsequential) change. It's not like hard drives weren't around in the late 80's. Hard drive even seems to make more sense, since you can't exactly take a floppy disk out of your brain /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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But the point here is not that you can take the brain/hard drive out, its that the brain/floppy can go anywhere and the data then transfered with ease. At the time he could not take his huge home computer with him, but he was able to put into on his mental floppy and then put the notes down on paper or whatever once he got to an office.

[Joshua]

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osaka said:
At the time he could not take his huge home computer with him, but he was able to put into on his mental floppy and then put the notes down on paper or whatever once he got to an office.

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The manga implied that he kept all his information in his head and used his fingers to input or output information,like he was a computer and his brain was his hard drive.

[kusanagi-sama]

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Nyanyaan said:
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KasiTL said:
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pete5883 said: Hard drive even seems to make more sense, since you can't exactly take a floppy disk out of your brain /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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I know people that joke about sticking flash memory sticks in their heads. Since a floppy isn't that different from a memory stick in function, the joke is still valid in it's own right in certain circles.

Merf. They could have just written a note that a floppy is kind of like a memory card, only bigger and holds less than five megs.

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I just can't imagine that a floppy disk would require any definition. It may not be the 5.25 (or even larger) that likely was alluded to in the 80s original, but 3.5s certainly are still around.

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The floppy drives that were before the 5.25" were 10" (I think) and held only 128KB (need to check http://www.redhill.net.au before I say anymore (the website is an Australian computer parts store that has an online computer parts museum))

[JeffDM]

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kusanagi-sama said:
The floppy drives that were before the 5.25" were 10" (I think) and held only 128KB (need to check http://www.redhill.net.au before I say anymore (the website is an Australian computer parts store that has an online computer parts museum))

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Close, the predecessor for 5.25" was 8". Those were gone before I ever touched a computer.

[kusanagi-sama]

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JeffDM said:
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kusanagi-sama said:
The floppy drives that were before the 5.25" were 10" (I think) and held only 128KB (need to check http://www.redhill.net.au before I say anymore (the website is an Australian computer parts store that has an online computer parts museum))

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Close, the predecessor for 5.25" was 8". Those were gone before I ever touched a computer.

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So it was only 8". I remember seeing the drive to one of those (I swear it looked bigger than 8") at an used computer parts store back in 1998 when these stores were starting up, and three years later, they all (all different companies) went out of business.

One store had nothing but really old parts, nothing newer than a 286 there. The other place where I got my tiny 14" NEC Multisync 2A monitor in 1999 (made in 1990) had a few 386s but mostly 486 computers. I built my first computer in 1999 (I started in 1998), and I didn't even know what I was doing at the time.

It had:
Cyrix MII PR300 (233MHz)
Soyo 5EMA+ Socket 7 mobo
32MB PC66 SDRAM
3GB BMI hard drive
24x CD-ROM
SiS 2356 AGP 4x Video Card w/8MB RAM
14" NEC Multisync 2A (800x600@60Hz was pushing it hard, but it really couldn't do any better than 640x480@75Hz)