Bandai Contracts Elastic Media

[RommieSG]

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Bandai Visual USA has contracted Elastic Media Corporation to produce English language dubs for the shows it is planning on releasing. Bandai Visual will be overseeing the dubs produced by Elastic Media. Currently ANN has only received information regarding catalog titles that Bandai Visual plans to release in North America. We do not know what, if any newer titles they will release.

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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=7951

Given the level of talent in series such as Gunparade March, this might be a very good thing. I've always thought that there aren't enough titles out there with this roster of talent. I'm looking forward to hearing what they've got in store for the future. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Rommie /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

[hijacka22]

Not to burst your bubble, Rommie, but Elastic Media hasn't exactly shown itself to be a shining example of dub quality. Granted, I've only heard Stratos 4 volume 1, but it was terrible, leading Bitterman to cite it as an example of bad dubbing at one of his convention panels. Elastic was also the "brains" behind the Anime X-Plode embarrassment.

It seems like Bandai Visual went after the cheaping dubbing option available. I hope Elastic will put forth more effort in their future titles.

[Mr. Nail Bat]

This is not good news.

And if Bandai Visual does end up supplanting Bandai Entertainment, then this is spectacularly horrible news.

[RommieSG]

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Not to burst your bubble, Rommie, but Elastic Media hasn't exactly shown itself to be a shining example of dub quality. Granted, I've only heard Stratos 4 volume 1, but it was terrible, leading Bitterman to cite it as an example of bad dubbing at one of his convention panels. Elastic was also the "brains" behind the Anime X-Plode embarrassment.

It seems like Bandai Visual went after the cheaping dubbing option available. I hope Elastic will put forth more effort in their future titles.

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No bubble bursted here. I guess I'm just spoiled by Gunparade March. It must be the exception to Elastic's usual dubbing performances.

I also hope that their effort is doubled with a new contract, but we also have to wonder what kind of titles they'll be dubbing, also.

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[EmperorBrandon]

Do we know what titles Bandai Visual has licensed? They're completely different from Bandai Ent., right?

I guess we should at least give them a fair chance. Some dub studios have started off with bad or mediocre dubs but improved later on. If they're doing union dubs as Bandai Ent. does then it might not necessarily be on the chaep, either (guess we will find out later in that regard...)

[Legion]

I'm dissapointed with this decision to use one of the lesser dubbing studios exclusively. Doesn't make for a great first impression, but here's hoping they don't go the way of the Toei.

[WilliamG]

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Nabeshinji said:
Not to burst your bubble, Rommie, but Elastic Media hasn't exactly shown itself to be a shining example of dub quality. Granted, I've only heard Stratos 4 volume 1, but it was terrible, leading Bitterman to cite it as an example of bad dubbing at one of his convention panels. Elastic was also the "brains" behind the Anime X-Plode embarrassment.

It seems like Bandai Visual went after the cheaping dubbing option available. I hope Elastic will put forth more effort in their future titles.

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No bubble bursted here. I guess I'm just spoiled by Gunparade March. It must be the exception to Elastic's usual dubbing performances.

I also hope that their effort is doubled with a new contract, but we also have to wonder what kind of titles they'll be dubbing, also.

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I don't know about that. I thought Elastic's dub of Gunparade March was just as bad as the one they did for Stratos 4.

William G.

[B-Rad Lascelle]

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I don't know about that. I thought Elastic's dub of Gunparade March was just as bad as the one they did for Stratos 4.

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Maybe it's one of those dubs that has some genuinely good performances amidst a smattering of truly awful supporting roles. Voice One's Saikano is a great example of that phenomenon. Many of the bit parts were unlistenable... and yet Melissa Hutchison, Mark Atherlay and Amy Provenzano delivered performances that were as good as anything heard in a dub last year.

[WilliamG]

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WilliamG. said:
I don't know about that. I thought Elastic's dub of Gunparade March was just as bad as the one they did for Stratos 4.

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Maybe it's one of those dubs that has some genuinely good performances amidst a smattering of truly awful supporting roles. Voice One's Saikano is a great example of that phenomenon. Many of the bit parts were unlistenable... and yet Melissa Hutchison, Mark Atherlay and Amy Provenzano delivered performances that were as good as anything heard in a dub last year.

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I watched the first two volumes of Gunparade March dubbed and I really thought the performances ranged from average to extremely mediocre. I couldn't even get through two episodes of Stratos 4 dubbed and I really don't want to even think about Elastic's dub of Demon Lord Dante. From what I have seen of Elastic's work, their dubs are pretty mediocre.

I think I would have been more exicted if Bandai Visual stated that they contracted Animaze or New Generation to produce their dubs. In the end this move looks to me more like dubbing anime on the cheap without any regard to how it may or may not turn out just as long as there is an English track on the DVD.

William G.

[Legion]

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I think I would have been more exicted if Bandai Visual stated that they contracted Animaze or New Generation to produce their dubs. In the end this move looks to me more like dubbing anime on the cheap without any regard to how it may or may not turn out just as long as there is an English track on the DVD.

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That would be the long and short of it. By making an *exclusive* contract with Elastic Media, they're saying just that. It would be another thing if they happened to use Elastic Media to dub some of the stuff they bring over but left themselves available to other studios.

[Magic_Knight]

I thought the Gunparade March dub was average, but the Stratos 4 dub was great. I'm looking forward to these dubs, mainly because it will bring some new voices to the characters that I haven't heard over and over again from certain ADV, and LA based dubs. Personally, I get kind of tired of hearing some popular VA's used in every show, I want some new actors playing some of the roles that I'm not used to hearing. I am NOT saying that these actors aren't any good.

[B-Rad Lascelle]

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Personally, I get kind of tired of hearing some popular VA's used in every show, I want some new actors playing some of the roles that I'm not used to hearing. I am NOT saying that these actors aren't any good.

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You've watched those quality Westwood dubs, right?
And Gilgamesh? And Petite Princess Yucie?
And the new breed of dubs from the NYC market?

I sure hope so. 'Cause there's plenty of quality dubs on the market with underused VAs to bask in before championing the 'I'll settle for crap from these new guys 'cause I'm sick of hearing Patton & Bosch dub everything' line of thought. /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

[Magic_Knight]

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Magic Knight said:
Personally, I get kind of tired of hearing some popular VA's used in every show, I want some new actors playing some of the roles that I'm not used to hearing. I am NOT saying that these actors aren't any good.

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You've watched those quality Westwood dubs, right?
And Gilgamesh? And Petite Princess Yucie?
And the new breed of dubs from the NYC market?

I sure hope so. 'Cause there's plenty of quality dubs on the market with underused VAs to bask in before championing the 'I'll settle for crap from these new guys 'cause I'm sick of hearing Patton & Bosch dub everything' line of thought. /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

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Yes, I have heard them. Petite Princess Yucie is one of my favorite dubs (see sig). Gilgamesh sounds great, too. Like I said, these are some fantastic actors, but some of them, like Wendee Lee, Chris Patton, Luci Christian, and others are over used in my book. I'm not saying go pick a dub studio with no talent. I am saying that I want some different voices for some of my shows.

I love watching dubs, and I love hearing some of my favorite actors playing some roles. But there does come a point where I think an actor can get too many roles where it almost gets a little silly.

I am not trying to bash the dub industry, any actor, or you. There are a ton of fantastic dubs out there and I'll be more than happy to hear those actors that I mentioned in future dubs. Luci Christian is great as Tutu, and Chris Patton's work in Yumeria is good, too.

[Nork22]

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WilliamG. said:
I watched the first two volumes of Gunparade March dubbed and I really thought the performances ranged from average to extremely mediocre.

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2 volumes? You tolerated more than me. I gave up listening to GPM dubbed after 2 episodes.

[populuxe]

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I thought the Gunparade March dub was average, but the Stratos 4 dub was great.

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I listened to the Stratos 4 dub. It was awful. I even listened to it a second time to give it another chance. It was still awful. It was a combination of mediocre talent (or talent unsuited to the unique demands of dubbing), and non-existant direction. Elastic Media has a long ways to go to convince me they can produce a competent dub. This new contract means I may never buy another Bandai title again.

[MeggieMay]

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Magic Knight said:
I thought the Gunparade March dub was average, but the Stratos 4 dub was great.

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I listened to the Stratos 4 dub. It was awful. I even listened to it a second time to give it another chance. It was still awful. It was a combination of mediocre talent (or talent unsuited to the unique demands of dubbing), and non-existant direction. Elastic Media has a long ways to go to convince me they can produce a competent dub. This new contract means I may never buy another Bandai title again.

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Huh? This contract is with Bandai Visual, not Bandai US /images/graemlins/relief.gif. They're two different companies and handle different titles, so why would you stop buying *all* Bandai titles over this situation?

Of course why Bandai is starting second company in direct competition with the one they already have going in the US, is baffling /images/graemlins/icon_rolleyes.gif but it's fodder for another thread (for R1 as well, not here in English Tracks /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif )

[populuxe]

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I thought the Gunparade March dub was average, but the Stratos 4 dub was great.

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I listened to the Stratos 4 dub. It was awful. I even listened to it a second time to give it another chance. It was still awful. It was a combination of mediocre talent (or talent unsuited to the unique demands of dubbing), and non-existant direction. Elastic Media has a long ways to go to convince me they can produce a competent dub. This new contract means I may never buy another Bandai title again.

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Huh? This contract is with Bandai Visual, not Bandai US

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I'm sorry, I should have specified Bandai Visual.

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but the Stratos 4 dub was great.


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Yay, im not the only one whos insane!

[Fudce]

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but the Stratos 4 dub was great.


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Yay, im not the only one whos insane!

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Strike another for the loonie bin, It wasn't the best I've heard, but it was nowhere near cringe-worthy.

[gpn]

I've only heard two dubs from Elastic: Stratos 4, which I thought was okay, and Magical Meow Meow Taruto, which I enjoyed. Given those two, I'm willing to wait to hear the results before passing judgement. It could have been worse if they'd gone with Blue water, whom BEI has a history with, or if they'd followed Toei's lead and gone with Kaleidoscope.

[Magic_Knight]

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I've only heard two dubs from Elastic: Stratos 4, which I thought was okay, and Magical Meow Meow Taruto

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I hadn't even noticed that Magical Meow Meow Taruto was an Elastic dub. Another good one. Taruto sounded so adorable.

[MeggieMay]

I have to admit that after reading this thread, and a few others on other boards, I'm starting to get confused as to where Elastic Media is located and who all records for them.

I went over to ANN and found the website for this studio (http://www.elasticmedia.net/) but it isn't much help, other than it talks about them having a studio in California (but this website looks out of date to me). I also checked ANN's listing for Gunparade March and I don't recognize any VA by name on the list. So could someone give a summery of who this group is?

[Otakuman1]

Howdy All!I have Taruto & Jessica Straus sounded CUTE /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gifI Have heard is GunParade March & its decent.Also the upcomming Avenger OAV Collection I saw the trailer on the site its pretty good.I give Elastic another chance IMO.They're getting better.See ya! Avenger Website (http://avenger.bandai-ent.com)

[B-Rad Lascelle]

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Howdy All!I have Taruto & Jessica Straus sounded CUTE /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gifI Have heard is GunParade March & its decent.Also the upcomming Avenger OAV Collection I saw the trailer on the site its pretty good.I give Elastic another chance IMO.They're getting better.See ya! Avenger Website (http://avenger.bandai-ent.com)

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Jessica Straus is also a known commodity... having come close to bagging herself a monthly VA award for her work in Wolf's Rain as Blue.

[Victor Lewandowski]

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The Otakuman said:
Howdy All!I have Taruto & Jessica Straus sounded CUTE /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gifI Have heard is GunParade March & its decent.Also the upcomming Avenger OAV Collection I saw the trailer on the site its pretty good.I give Elastic another chance IMO.They're getting better.See ya! Avenger Website (http://avenger.bandai-ent.com)

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Jessica Straus is also a known commodity... having come close to bagging herself a monthly VA award for her work in Wolf's Rain as Blue.

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Speaking of Avenger, there are a few well known LA voices in the dub. Elastic may have its own talent pool to use, but has some access to more commonly known VA's out of the LA talent pool if needed.

[ObiKenobi]

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Do we know what titles Bandai Visual has licensed? They're completely different from Bandai Ent., right?

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Why would Bandai Visual license things? They own the shows themselves...

[ObiKenobi]

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I also hope that their effort is doubled with a new contract, but we also have to wonder what kind of titles they'll be dubbing, also.

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Patlabor movies 1 & 2 apparently. I was looking forward to hearing this with maybe a decent dub, since I thought Manga's cast sucked, but if the studio is as bad as people are saying I guess I'll just stick with my Korean discs and the wonderful 5.1 japanese track.

[mighty_vespa]

Well, far be it from me to only rely on reader opinions, but some of the comments about Elastic Media have me concerned.

I'd by lying, if I told you I've never dreamed of a scenario where someone like New Generation was asked to re-dub the Patlabor films. I mean, Manga's dubs are--what? Over ten years old, at least? Hey! I'm not suggesting that their dub is bad because it's old. I wasn't a fan of it, I can tell you that much. But so much has changed, in the last ten to fifteen years. And I'd just like to see the talented and experienced studios of today tackle the properties of yeasteryear. Yeah. I'm bias, when it comes to Patlabor. I'm not ashamed of that. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[Advent_Nebula]

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but the Stratos 4 dub was great.


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Yay, im not the only one whos insane!

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Strike another for the loonie bin, It wasn't the best I've heard, but it was nowhere near cringe-worthy.

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I am already in the Loony bin, and I find the Stratos 4 dub to be my second favorte dub.

[Del]

Well I won't pass jugement on a studio, if I haven't heard anywork from them. Also glad to know I'm not the only one that liked voice one. Their work on both jojo ova's where outstanding. it's up there with LA and NY talent if not better.

[toy_brain]

Ahh, so Gunparade March and Avenger are both Elastic Media dubs? - well I might as well throw in my opinions given that I've seem them both.

Gunparade I thought ended up ok, but got off to a really bad start with some miss-synced lip-flaps and flat performances during the first volume.
By the second disk the lip-sync problems had ben sorted out, and while it wasn't the greatest dub ever, it was perfectly litenable IMO and most of the main cast had well-suted voices and the delivery from thereon in seemed spot-on.

Avenger is.... umm, well it dosent have any of the lip-sync problems that Gunparade had, and the cast are mostly recognisable from other LA dubs so the experience of the actors probably 'safeguarded' the dub quality.
The script is pants though, which is probably more a fault of the Japanese end than anything that happened in the re-writing process (I'm just guessing though), so its difficult for any performances to really shine.
It basically sounds like a flat-out-average Bang Zoom! dub

[porkchopexpress]

This whole discussion makes me wonder how they chose a dubbing studio. What makes Geneon choose between New Gen, Westwood, and Bang Zoom? Or what makes TSRI choose between a NY or LA studio? Is it like contractors bidding on a job? How do they choose a director? Why is the sky blue?

As far as Elastic Media is concerned I have only heard the Gunparade March dub, and thought is was ok. Not the worst thing I ever heard, and certainly good for a dubbing studios second or third try at anime dubbing (something I just assumed). Maybe with time they could become the next Monster Island.

[Chiyosuke]

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In partnership with Mitsubishi International Corporation, Elastic ventured into the content business producing English dubs, trailers, music and sound effects design for its initial clients. <snip>

Clients and business partners include: Bandai Entertainment, Vini Bergeman (a.k.a. “Big Daddy�…the star of the “KUSTOMIZER� on the Discovery Networks), d-rights, Inc. (a wholly owned subsidiary of Mitsubishi Corporation)...

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Ah so that's why they got to dub GPM /images/graemlins/tongue.gif. Also, I have this strange feeling that they only went to EMC out of cheap. I mean Manga did produce the original dubs, but Tohokushinsha Film Corp. actually owns them. They could've been asking for a pretty penny.

[Legion]

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This whole discussion makes me wonder how they chose a dubbing studio. What makes Geneon choose between New Gen, Westwood, and Bang Zoom? Or what makes TSRI choose between a NY or LA studio? Is it like contractors bidding on a job? How do they choose a director? Why is the sky blue?

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$$$

That apples to all questions except the last one. I know I heard the answer once, but I didn't retain it. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Rhodes]

sky is blue cause of the way our eyes work in concert with the atmosphere and how it filters the spectrum of light. least thats what i recall... forget the details.

[ObiKenobi]

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I mean Manga did produce the original dubs, but Tohokushinsha Film Corp. actually owns them. They could've been asking for a pretty penny.

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Well I'm hoping that Elastic Media can do a good dubbing because Patlabor deserved a better dub than Manga gave it. I would have been more happy if Bandai Visual had the VAs from CPM's dub to do the new version as I thought they did a much better job.

[Rhodes]

so this would be the 4th cast for patlabour then... cpm, manga, movie 3 and elastics... unless elastic were to use the cast from movie 3.

[ObiKenobi]

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so this would be the 4th cast for patlabour then... cpm, manga, movie 3 and elastics... unless elastic were to use the cast from movie 3.

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Never heard the dub on Movie 3. How was that group compared to the TV cast?

[Rhodes]

really hard to say... sv2 only has cameo spots in movie 3. movie dub on its own was pretty good, better than say stratos 4, which i considered was decent. still in my mind no one can bring sv2 to life was well as the ny cast. however i think the va for shinobu changed as well as kunagami during the last tv boxset and the new files ova. unless its the same person using a different stage name.

[Splitter]

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Yay, im not the only one whos insane!

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Strike another for the loonie bin, It wasn't the best I've heard, but it was nowhere near cringe-worthy.

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I am already in the Loony bin, and I find the Stratos 4 dub to be my second favorte dub.

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If you're the same Advent_Nebula I know, you just lost major respect points with me... Stratos had a few good voices (Ayamo was good and Mikaze was decent), but they ruined my Karin-chan and Shizuha. Stratos 4 also goes down in my books as a dub failure and the reason I will never listen to another Elastic Media dub again.

[bctaris]

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really hard to say... sv2 only has cameo spots in movie 3. movie dub on its own was pretty good, better than say stratos 4, which i considered was decent. still in my mind no one can bring sv2 to life was well as the ny cast. however i think the va for shinobu changed as well as kunagami during the last tv boxset and the new files ova. unless its the same person using a different stage name.

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Same person. Ami Shukla's her real name. She dropped the previous name for one reason or another.

The dub for movie 3 (http://www.crystalacids.com/database/title/514/patlabor-the-movie-3-wxiii/) is pretty good with some solid LA talent. It had Michelle Ruff as Noa and Richard Epcar for Ota, for two things in its favor.

As for ObiKenobi's opinion about the TV cast as opposed to the old Manga UK dubs for the movies, I'd say they're both about the same level. The TV being longer certainly ingratiates listeners more to those voices, but quality-wise I don't give it that much more of an edge. But I say that from the point that I like the old Manga UK dubs--Peter Marinker (Goto) and Sharon Holm (Shinobu) among a couple others put in some fine work; and with the Dominion dubs I think of the movies as some of the better work from that now extinct studio.

[Mr. Nail Bat]

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really hard to say... sv2 only has cameo spots in movie 3. movie dub on its own was pretty good, better than say stratos 4, which i considered was decent. still in my mind no one can bring sv2 to life was well as the ny cast. however i think the va for shinobu changed as well as kunagami during the last tv boxset and the new files ova. unless its the same person using a different stage name.

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Same person. Ami Shukla's her real name. She dropped the previous name for one reason or another.

The dub for movie 3 (http://www.crystalacids.com/database/title/514/patlabor-the-movie-3-wxiii/) is pretty good with some solid LA talent. It had Michelle Ruff as Noa and Richard Epcar for Ota, for two things in its favor.

As for ObiKenobi's opinion about the TV cast as opposed to the old Manga UK dubs for the movies, I'd say they're both about the same level. The TV being longer certainly ingratiates listeners more to those voices, but quality-wise I don't give it that much more of an edge. But I say that from the point that I like the old Manga UK dubs--Peter Marinker (Goto) and Sharon Holm (Shinobu) among a couple others put in some fine work; and with the Dominion dubs I think of the movies as some of the better work from that now extinct studio.

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Yeah, I can't imagine a better Goto in English than Peter Marinker, unless Roy Scheider himself took the role.

[Legion]

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so this would be the 4th cast for patlabour then... cpm, manga, movie 3 and elastics... unless elastic were to use the cast from movie 3.

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Elastic Media draws from the same talent pool as Animaze (which dubbed movie 3... I think) so it's possible that a few of the same actors will come back.

[ObiKenobi]

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As for ObiKenobi's opinion about the TV cast as opposed to the old Manga UK dubs for the movies, I'd say they're both about the same level. The TV being longer certainly ingratiates listeners more to those voices, but quality-wise I don't give it that much more of an edge. But I say that from the point that I like the old Manga UK dubs--Peter Marinker (Goto) and Sharon Holm (Shinobu) among a couple others put in some fine work; and with the Dominion dubs I think of the movies as some of the better work from that now extinct studio.

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Eh, I know alot of people seem to like the old Manga dubs but honestly I just can't stand them and am looking forward to a new dub that might actually be worth listening to. After getting into Patlabor by watching the original japanese version and CPM dub of the TV series and OVA I tried to watch the Manga dub but couldn't get more than 10 minutes into it before I started cringing and had to switch back to japanese. But if you enjoyed them, that's great. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[bctaris]

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so this would be the 4th cast for patlabour then... cpm, manga, movie 3 and elastics... unless elastic were to use the cast from movie 3.

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Elastic Media draws from the same talent pool as Animaze (which dubbed movie 3... I think) so it's possible that a few of the same actors will come back.

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Okay then. I start my campaign to get Ruff back for Noa. /images/graemlins/happy.gif (She'll at least have a respectable amount of lines in the first movie...)

[bctaris]

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really hard to say... sv2 only has cameo spots in movie 3. movie dub on its own was pretty good, better than say stratos 4, which i considered was decent. still in my mind no one can bring sv2 to life was well as the ny cast. however i think the va for shinobu changed as well as kunagami during the last tv boxset and the new files ova. unless its the same person using a different stage name.

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Same person. Ami Shukla's her real name. She dropped the previous name for one reason or another.

The dub for movie 3 (http://www.crystalacids.com/database/title/514/patlabor-the-movie-3-wxiii/) is pretty good with some solid LA talent. It had Michelle Ruff as Noa and Richard Epcar for Ota, for two things in its favor.

As for ObiKenobi's opinion about the TV cast as opposed to the old Manga UK dubs for the movies, I'd say they're both about the same level. The TV being longer certainly ingratiates listeners more to those voices, but quality-wise I don't give it that much more of an edge. But I say that from the point that I like the old Manga UK dubs--Peter Marinker (Goto) and Sharon Holm (Shinobu) among a couple others put in some fine work; and with the Dominion dubs I think of the movies as some of the better work from that now extinct studio.

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Yeah, I can't imagine a better Goto in English than Peter Marinker, unless Roy Scheider himself took the role.

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I really liked Michael Schwartz's Goto in the New York dub, and he was one of the highlights. But I still hear Marinker's voice everytime I see the character.

Hmm, but Scheider... He still live in or around LA? /images/graemlins/wink.gif