Characters whose absence makes the anime less enjoyable [Archive]

pianocello

01-23-2006, 09:06 PM

Has there ever been an anime where you feel that the show became less entertaining whenever a certain character is not in the show? Post your thoughts.

To get the ball rolling, here are some of my mine:
Trinity Blood - Whenever Esther Blanchett is not in the story, I found myself less interested in the story. Unfortunately, she barely appears in nearly half the series.

Monster - For me, the show just doesn't work without Nina Fortner. I found many of the side characters boring and everytime she was not in an episode, I found myself wondering when she would reappear.

Big O - It's all about R. Dorothy Wayneright. The best episodes feature her and many of the episodes without her just felt subpar.

EmperorBrandon

01-23-2006, 09:19 PM

Probably a few more than this (I'll keep thinking just in case any more pop up in my mind), but a few that are coming to mind now...

D.N. Angel - Mio Hio. Yeah, she's not an important character (and not really my favorite character either), but the episodes with which she was involved in the story line (the late middle portion of the series) were definitely the best part of the series. There was some really interesting stuff there, while much of the rest of the show was rather bland, particularly before she showed up.

Revolutionary Girl Utena - Nanami Kiryuu. The show doesn't necessarily suffer when she's not around, but I always liked her presence. She always seems to bring a nice amount of comic relief when she's involved in the episode, and I tend to remember those eps. the best when I think back (still been a little while since I've seen Utena)

malmquist

01-23-2006, 09:49 PM

How about Shiro (http://www.animenfo.com/anime/character/display.php?id=1371&n=uppmwq&t=shiro) and Maru (http://www.animenfo.com/anime/character/display.php?id=1372&n=ntefbq&t=maru) (need 'em both for best results) from UFO Princess Valkyrie?

meganly_chan

01-23-2006, 09:55 PM

Kasumi (Pokemon): I stopped watching after she left, and will avoid watching any new episodes until she comes back.

rainking187

01-23-2006, 10:03 PM

[ QUOTE ]
meganly_chan said:
Kasumi (Pokemon): I stopped watching after she left, and will avoid watching any new episodes until she comes back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, taking her off just totally fucked the show up. What the hell were they thinking?

chloes_fork

01-23-2006, 10:12 PM

Eva is less enjoyable before Asuka's arrival, and becomes less enjoyable again when she descends into her funk toward the end of the series. In the middle, in her full bitchy glory, she's the show's most potent juice.

AbeChinchilla

01-23-2006, 10:17 PM

I'm a big Isabella fan (Paradise Kiss). She doesn't appear a whole lot in the anime, which makes that aspect of the series less enjoyable for me. (But the show is still awesome)

EDIT: Same deal with Karen Kasumi from X TV. Just not enough of her. She's absent too much.

Detention for both of you ladies!!

something

01-23-2006, 10:17 PM

Urumi Kanzaki - GTO - Sure the show is awesome even without her, and Onizuka is MORE than enough to keep any storyline going (well, duh) but the best parts of GTO from start to finish are when Urumi is involved (even moreso for the manga as it continues past the anime).

Aoba Tsuzaki - Jinki:Extend - Then again, she was about all this show seriously had going for it anyway... Oh sure I like most of the rest of the cast, and Shiba is hot, but Aoba was the show for me. Too bad there was no storytelling competence behind it at all =(

Hiyono Yuizaki - Spiral - Again, a really fun show but Hiyono is what keeps it going. Ayumu would have been screwed (or dead) countless times without her, and she sometimes doesn't get the thanks she deserves, although she gets recognition by the end.

Kaoru Kamiya - Kenshin - Dont get me wrong, Kenshinw as great no matter who was on screen, but during the more extended periods of her absence from the Kyoto arc, I was really wishing for more Kaoru screentime. She was probably my favorite character (along with Kenshin I suppose). Saitou really needed more screentime too -- he was a welcome inverse to Kenshin's sermons on not killing. Stab 'em all Saitou! Woo~

B-Rad Lascelle

01-23-2006, 10:24 PM

[ QUOTE ]
rainking187 said:
[ QUOTE ]
meganly_chan said:
Kasumi (Pokemon): I stopped watching after she left, and will avoid watching any new episodes until she comes back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, taking her off just totally fucked the show up. What the hell were they thinking?

[/ QUOTE ]
For what it's worth, she's been brought back to the main storyline on two separate occasions (excluding specials which have not been released in R1).

The next stretch of episodes that Kasumi plays a part span from Episode 409 through 411. (For reference, Episode 386 just aired last weekend on KidsWB.)

Sensuifu

01-23-2006, 10:30 PM

[ QUOTE ]
disarm said:
Saitou really needed more screentime too -- he was a welcome inverse to Kenshin's sermons on not killing. Stab 'em all Saitou! Woo~

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree. Though I think Megumi needed more screentime as well.

lilgumba

01-23-2006, 10:30 PM

I agree with the Pokemon and Big O comments above. I thought it was just me that felt that way.

Now as much as I can't stand Ayeka from Tenchi Muyo, if she wasn't there it really wouldn't have its staying power. We would only have Ryoko messing with Mihoshi. I don't even want to think about how tired that would get. On that note, I can equally say that without Ryoko it gets really boring. This was especially so in Tenchi in Tokyo near the end.

Fencedude

01-23-2006, 10:30 PM

[ QUOTE ]
disarm said:

Aoba Tsuzaki - Jinki:Extend - Then again, she was about all this show seriously had going for it anyway... Oh sure I like most of the rest of the cast, and Shiba is hot, but Aoba was the show for me. Too bad there was no storytelling competence behind it at all =(

[/ QUOTE ]

Tsk tsk tsk.

You seem to have misspelled "Shiba" and "Rui".

Bad disarm, bad.

something

01-23-2006, 10:32 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Fencedude said:
[ QUOTE ]
disarm said:

Aoba Tsuzaki - Jinki:Extend - Then again, she was about all this show seriously had going for it anyway... Oh sure I like most of the rest of the cast, and Shiba is hot, but Aoba was the show for me. Too bad there was no storytelling competence behind it at all =(

[/ QUOTE ]

Tsk tsk tsk.

You seem to have misspelled "Shiba" and "Rui".

Bad disarm, bad.

[/ QUOTE ]

Heh, I knew I'd get chided for not mentioning Rui, but she's one of the "rest of the cast" who I also liked =P For what it's worth, if I mentioned one other by name it would have been her.

SnowfairyX

01-23-2006, 11:01 PM

[ QUOTE ]
rainking187 said:
[ QUOTE ]
meganly_chan said:
Kasumi (Pokemon): I stopped watching after she left, and will avoid watching any new episodes until she comes back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, taking her off just totally fucked the show up. What the hell were they thinking?

[/ QUOTE ]
It was somewhat sad during the episode when she finally left the group, but overall I didn't really care for her that much and pretty much forgot all about her as soon as Haruka/May came along. She actually does stuff and doesn't feel quite as one-dimensional as all the other characters. It brought a breath of fresh air to the series for at least a little bit when they dropped Kasumi and replaced her with Haruka/May instead. I liked the change and found it quite refreshing.

AbeChinchilla

01-23-2006, 11:03 PM

[ QUOTE ]
SnowfairyX said:
[ QUOTE ]
rainking187 said:
[ QUOTE ]
meganly_chan said:
Kasumi (Pokemon): I stopped watching after she left, and will avoid watching any new episodes until she comes back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, taking her off just totally fucked the show up. What the hell were they thinking?

[/ QUOTE ]
It was somewhat sad during the episode when she finally left the group, but overall I didn't really care for her that much and pretty much forgot all about her as soon as Haruka/May came along. She actually does stuff and doesn't feel quite as one-dimensional as all the other characters. It brought a breath of fresh air to the series for at least a little bit when they dropped Kasumi and replaced her with Haruka/May instead. I liked the change and found it quite refreshing.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ew, May sickens me.
With her over-developed breasts. I thought she was fucking 10 years-old? Her brother is even worse and very annoying...

DeVeliCious

01-23-2006, 11:05 PM

What about Twelve Kingdoms, although the story related to different arcs. A lot of the times, most characters would be gone for a long time.

SnowfairyX

01-24-2006, 05:17 AM

[ QUOTE ]
AbeChinchilla said:
[ QUOTE ]
SnowfairyX said:
[ QUOTE ]
rainking187 said:
[ QUOTE ]
meganly_chan said:
Kasumi (Pokemon): I stopped watching after she left, and will avoid watching any new episodes until she comes back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, taking her off just totally fucked the show up. What the hell were they thinking?

[/ QUOTE ]
It was somewhat sad during the episode when she finally left the group, but overall I didn't really care for her that much and pretty much forgot all about her as soon as Haruka/May came along. She actually does stuff and doesn't feel quite as one-dimensional as all the other characters. It brought a breath of fresh air to the series for at least a little bit when they dropped Kasumi and replaced her with Haruka/May instead. I liked the change and found it quite refreshing.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ew, May sickens me.
With her over-developed breasts. I thought she was fucking 10 years-old? Her brother is even worse and very annoying...

[/ QUOTE ]
She does seem a bit better endowed than the average 10-year old girl in an anime but is that really such a bad thing or are you being sarcastic? I kind of think that it's her outfit that might give that illusion but it's definitely not something I find particularly distracting or unsettling.

As for her brother, it's understandable that he can be annoying sometimes, but he just seems mostly invisible to me. Team Rocket is far worse and if there was anything that would make me stop watching the show, it would be them.

Zeromus_One

01-24-2006, 06:38 AM

Nadesico - G A I ! /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

Ryvius - Kozue, Ikumi (cheerful versions)

01-24-2006, 08:49 AM

LAYLA from Kaleidostar. She was easily my favorite character in the series. I'll buy New Wings to support the release but I won't watch it until somebody assures me that Layla is in it.

ERMA from Tench GXP. It was a fun show but not nearly as fun once Erma left.

Chip

Isuzu Inugami

01-24-2006, 11:03 AM

[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:

Big O - It's all about R. Dorothy Wayneright.

[/ QUOTE ]

Truer words never spoken!

Similary, Scarlett was the only thing that kept Steamboy from completely tanking.

Full Metal Panic gets a bit dull when Chidori isn't around--which is probably just my way of realizing I prefer the high-school comedy side to the giant robot side. /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif

fantasydewdrop

01-24-2006, 02:13 PM

I'm going to be a bit deviant and say Brock, not Misty, from Pokemon. I was really sad when Brock left (and I believe that happed when I had a crush on him). When they first introduced Tracey, I thought he might be interesting ("ooh, an artist! That'll be kinda neat!") but he was very lame when he wasn't dabbling in Misty's love life. He had a cool Scyther though. Also missed Butterfree and Charizard greatly, but Charizard pops in every now and then from what I've heard. The show's more enjoyable overall when there's an alternative antagonist, so it'd be nice for more/to bring past ones that aren't reformed back more often.

In Fushigi Yuugi, Nuriko's death definetly removes a bit of the fun factor and it's sad not to have such a cool character around. I'd also like to see Tomo in a storyarch that's actually good for once; he's deffinetly different and interesting. Oh, and after Tasuki joins it deffinetly is a bit more fun, and he's in one of the best fights in the series.

I think season four of Sailor Moon could possibly have benefitted from the presense of the outter scouts.

Does Sorceror Hunters have the characters from Sorceror on the Rocks in it? *hasn't gotten past the first disk* If not, I am sad, because I got the series in the hopes that the characters from the SotR ova make an appearance. They entertain me so much. Carrot isn't that entertaining yet, and I can't decide who he reminds me of.

Njr Scrawl

01-24-2006, 06:35 PM

[ QUOTE ]
chloes_fork said:
Eva is less enjoyable before Asuka's arrival, and becomes less enjoyable again when she descends into her funk toward the end of the series. In the middle, in her full bitchy glory, she's the show's most potent juice.

[/ QUOTE ]

I take the opposite view. My favourite Eva episodes are #1 to #7.
Rei, Shinji & Misato did fine on their own, & Shinji was getting a little closer to Rei.

Bit when Misato (& Ritsuko) was absent & Gendou was directing things in the mid-series episodes, I missed Misato. Her humanity is what makes Eva so attractive to me. Shinji needed her too! 

The arc in Twelve Kingdoms without Yohko was lonely...

In Macross:DYRL when Minmei was MIA, it felt really weird. Just Hikaru & the Hayase woman. Cold. 

And there are not enough Aoi & Kaoru solo episodes in Ai Yuri Aoshi!

ibby

01-24-2006, 07:10 PM

[ QUOTE ]
YUAchip said:
LAYLA from Kaleidostar. She was easily my favorite character in the series. I'll buy New Wings to support the release but I won't watch it until somebody assures me that Layla is in it.
Chip

[/ QUOTE ]

Layla is in new wings and appears around eposide 36ish(from memory), when there's a big tournment where May and Sora pair up with different partners for it.Layla plays a small part in the series from when she appears, till the end of new wings.

Lovely

01-24-2006, 08:05 PM

Hm. Only one series I can think of, Kurapica and Leorio from Hunter x Hunter. Everytime those two WEREN'T in a certain arc I found the show boring as hell. Finally, when they basically leave for good, I soon developed a loathing for Gon.
The show is great when those two ARE around though I especially enjoyed the last arc of the tv series and the first OAV.

2old2care

01-24-2006, 08:52 PM

Trigun - Wolfwood
Miami Guns - Julio
Love Hina - Mutsumi
Speed Racer - Racer X /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Mark

01-24-2006, 09:26 PM

Kuwabara is missing for most of the final act of Yuyu Hakusho.

Misao and friends from Kenshin. After they're introduced, any time they're not there the Kenshin team feels lacking.

Captain Impulse

01-24-2006, 09:51 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Wrath of the Njr said:

I take the opposite view. My favourite Eva episodes are #1 to #7.
Rei, Shinji & Misato did fine on their own, & Shinji was getting a little closer to Rei.

Bit when Misato (& Ritsuko) was absent & Gendou was directing things in the mid-series episodes, I missed Misato. Her humanity is what makes Eva so attractive to me. Shinji needed her too! 

[/ QUOTE ]

Ironically, Gendo was one of my favorite characters in that series because he was so unflinching and focused on his goals. Although without other characters like Misato to balance out the emotional see-saw, he wouldn't have worked as a character. Nevertheless, Gendo is in many ways the anchor of that show in my opinion.

nakimushi

01-25-2006, 07:00 AM

Gungrave - Brandon Heat

To me Gungrave was almost two separate series: the series with Brandon Heat and the series with Beyond the Grave. I enjoyed the episodes with Brandon much more than the Grave episodes. To me, the Grave episodes were just another mediocre video game adaptation anime, while the Brandon episodes were excellent. I know they made the anime because of the video game, but IMHO the anime would have been much better, if they hadn't brought in Grave at all.

Ending Spoiler:
 I personally think that the makers of Gungrave might have felt the same way, because they allow Grave to virtually revert, personality-wise, to Brandon for the last episode. I'm glad they did that, because I think the series would have been much less enjoyable if the final confrontation with Harry had been just another "Boss" battle from the video game. The last episode redeemed the show for me, because up until that point, I was rather annoyed that one of the better shows that I had seen that year, had degenerated into a video game adaptation.

Also, they stop making him wear that silly cowboy outfit in the last episode.

mrgazpacho

01-25-2006, 10:10 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Shimauma said:
Full Metal Panic gets a bit dull when Chidori isn't around--which is probably just my way of realizing I prefer the high-school comedy side to the giant robot side. /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I saw the first bit of the manga in NewType, and a slice of an episode at a con. I think I'll go straight for Fumoffu!

Westlo

01-25-2006, 11:23 AM

chloes_fork

01-25-2006, 11:44 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Westlo said:
[ QUOTE ]
chloes_fork said:
Eva is less enjoyable before Asuka's arrival, and becomes less enjoyable again when she descends into her funk toward the end of the series. In the middle, in her full bitchy glory, she's the show's most potent juice.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have to agree, Asuka made the show really enjoyable for me at times.

[/ QUOTE ]
I'll add that Eva isn't unenjoyable without Asuka; it's a great show regardless. It's just that much better when she's around.

Njr Scrawl

01-25-2006, 12:05 PM

I prefer the manga Asuka - not just saying that. She is more 2-faced, vicious, has a slightly different origin & is less stereotypical in ways. Her verbal head-butting with Toji cracks me up, he being like The Thing with anyone he dislikes in Fantastic Four. What happens to Toji in the manga still stuns me.

Rei & Shinji are also more interesting in Eva manga, but the rest are less so IMO.

chloes_fork

01-25-2006, 12:13 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Wrath of the Njr said:
What happens to Toji in the manga still stuns me.

[/ QUOTE ]
I was more surprised he survived in the show. I frankly thought it was a bit of a cop-out, even before I read the manga with its more appropriate and believable outcome.

01-25-2006, 12:20 PM

I'm not sure if it's because of her character or simply a failing of the show itself, but I felt Outlaw Star went downhill once Hilda left the show.

dunno001

01-25-2006, 12:26 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Wrath of the Njr said:
And there are not enough Aoi & Kaoru solo episodes in Ai Yuri Aoshi!

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed. They were the reason I overlooked episode 5, and was willing to buy disk 2. But they didn't come back, and, to be on the flip side of the topic, Tina took this series at full speed nose-first into the ground. Cut out Tina, remove a few eps, and suddenly you have gold. Oh well, at least someone benefit from my box for that series...

Njr Scrawl

01-25-2006, 01:31 PM

[ QUOTE ]
chloes_fork said:
[ QUOTE ]
Wrath of the Njr said:
What happens to Toji in the manga still stuns me.

[/ QUOTE ]
I was more surprised he survived in the show. I frankly thought it was a bit of a cop-out, even before I read the manga with its more appropriate and believable outcome.

[/ QUOTE ]

He did lose a leg though, if you notice when he's sitting in bed talking to Hikari, there's only 1 there.

Fencedude

01-25-2006, 01:33 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Wrath of the Njr said:
[ QUOTE ]
chloes_fork said:
[ QUOTE ]
Wrath of the Njr said:
What happens to Toji in the manga still stuns me.

[/ QUOTE ]
I was more surprised he survived in the show. I frankly thought it was a bit of a cop-out, even before I read the manga with its more appropriate and believable outcome.

[/ QUOTE ]

He did lose a leg though, if you notice when he's sitting in bed talking to Hikari, there's only 1 there.

[/ QUOTE ]

It was still a horrible, horrible cop-out.

chloes_fork

01-25-2006, 01:34 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Wrath of the Njr said:
He did lose a leg though, if you notice when he's sitting in bed talking to Hikari, there's only 1 there.

[/ QUOTE ]
I know. Better than nothing, I guess. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Njr Scrawl

01-25-2006, 01:35 PM

[ QUOTE ]
dunno001 said:
[ QUOTE ]
Wrath of the Njr said:
And there are not enough Aoi & Kaoru solo episodes in Ai Yuri Aoshi!

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed. They were the reason I overlooked episode 5, and was willing to buy disk 2. But they didn't come back, and, to be on the flip side of the topic, Tina took this series at full speed nose-first into the ground. Cut out Tina, remove a few eps, and suddenly you have gold. Oh well, at least someone benefit from my box for that series...

[/ QUOTE ]

I bought Enishi craving for more. Must make a compilation of favourite episodes from both series one day.

On other series, I'd have liked to see some Haruka in Akane Maniax.

More Spoor in Banner of the Stars series would have been good. I even bought the R2J BoTS special for her extra scenes.

Peorth is always welcome in AMG.

azuredreams

01-25-2006, 03:09 PM

Record of Lodoss War TV - Orson/ Olson - I think that is how you spell his name. I liked his character so much and I wanted to see him grow more.

cartman414

01-25-2006, 03:26 PM

Ichino from Battle Athletes Victory. Quite possibly the best character in a great anime. So why did she have to disappear for most of it?

Hughes from Fullmetal Alchemist. I would've much rather seen Tucker buy the farm. Then again, who wouldn't?

Mod Edit: spoiler tags

Mark

01-25-2006, 04:33 PM

[ QUOTE ]
mifuneral said:
I'm not sure if it's because of her character or simply a failing of the show itself, but I felt Outlaw Star went downhill once Hilda left the show.

[/ QUOTE ]

I stopped right there. I never really got into the cast other than her.

vtr9kvictor

01-25-2006, 04:44 PM

[ QUOTE ]
disarm said:
Urumi Kanzaki - GTO - Sure the show is awesome even without her, and Onizuka is MORE than enough to keep any storyline going (well, duh) but the best parts of GTO from start to finish are when Urumi is involved (even moreso for the manga as it continues past the anime).

[/ QUOTE ]

I find myself in complete agreement with you.

vtr9kvictor

01-25-2006, 04:49 PM

[ QUOTE ]
KasiTL said:

I think season four of Sailor Moon could possibly have benefitted from the presense of the outter scouts.

Does Sorceror Hunters have the characters from Sorceror on the Rocks in it? *hasn't gotten past the first disk* If not, I am sad, because I got the series in the hopes that the characters from the SotR ova make an appearance. They entertain me so much. Carrot isn't that entertaining yet, and I can't decide who he reminds me of.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree about season 4 of Sailor Moon. It damn sure needed SOMETHING....

As for Sorceror Hunters/Sorceror on the Rocks, no the characters do not crossover. They are however, from the same universe.

fantasydewdrop

01-25-2006, 05:03 PM

Maybe they should have just cut six of the filler episodes out of SuperS and then stuck StarS-A at the end of SuperS. It doesn't make much sense for SuperS to have so much filler anyways.

I'm sure if they really needed those six extra StarS episodes (like if they were waiting for the manga source material or something), they could have come up with something decent to fill the gap. The movies and Doom Tree arc weren't bad, after all.

Man, that sucks that Shibas and his ... slaves... don't show up in the series. I got SotR to help balance shipping on an auction, and didn't know it was a spin off until after I got it and read the blurb mentioning that it's in the same universe as SH. There needs to be a series based on the travels of these guys. Seriously.

Perfect_Cell

01-25-2006, 05:06 PM

Gantz (Major Spoilers!)

When everyone got killed off one by one including Kiesimoto and Kato, the final game wasn't really fun to watch, their absence added to tension surrounding Kei but really, I would have loved atleast somebody to live for Game 4

AbeChinchilla

01-25-2006, 05:13 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Zei said:
Gantz (Major Spoilers!)

When everyone got killed off one by one including Kiesimoto and Kato, the final game wasn't really fun to watch, their absence added to tension surrounding Kei but really, I would have loved atleast somebody to live for Game 4

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd go with Sei staying alive, could of easily done without that suicidal guy, although his cameos in the first volumes of the show would be pointless). I firmly believe Kishimoto was ACTUALLY able to escape the GANTZ game because she died with no fear OR regrets, in the same sense as with Kurono in volume 10. Since I also believe he was able to escape GANTZ.

pianocello

01-25-2006, 09:07 PM

[ QUOTE ]
KasiTL said:
I think season four of Sailor Moon could possibly have benefitted from the presense of the outter scouts.

[/ QUOTE ]
While I did miss the presence of Pluto and Saturn, I was actually glad that Uranus and Neptune were not around. I really can't stand them.

EmperorBrandon

01-25-2006, 10:43 PM

[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
[ QUOTE ]
KasiTL said:
I think season four of Sailor Moon could possibly have benefitted from the presense of the outter scouts.

[/ QUOTE ]
While I did miss the presence of Pluto and Saturn, I was actually glad that Uranus and Neptune were not around. I really can't stand them.

[/ QUOTE ]

I can't stand those two either. They did make things a little interesting in S, at least. I don't really see what good inserting the Outer Senshi into SuperS would do, as much as many have argued for it (then again I rather enjoy SuperS as it is).

roastedpekingduck

01-25-2006, 11:21 PM

Gungrave- I don't think killing off Widge, Grave, and Dr. Tokioka were such good ideas. I think that those three along with Mika should have been left to see the second death of Brandon.

Njr Scrawl

01-26-2006, 12:54 PM

[ QUOTE ]
EmperorBrandon said:
[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
[ QUOTE ]
KasiTL said:
I think season four of Sailor Moon could possibly have benefitted from the presense of the outter scouts.

[/ QUOTE ]
While I did miss the presence of Pluto and Saturn, I was actually glad that Uranus and Neptune were not around. I really can't stand them.

[/ QUOTE ]

I can't stand those two either. They did make things a little interesting in S, at least. I don't really see what good inserting the Outer Senshi into SuperS would do, as much as many have argued for it (then again I rather enjoy SuperS as it is).

[/ QUOTE ]

Uranus & Neptune were too rough-edged in S. They are much better in Stars - in all ways! (Stars has less Pluto though, which is a shame)

Super S was good focused on the inner senshi again. My 2nd favourite BSSM series after Stars (which is better for some regular characters absence!).

Isuzu Inugami

01-27-2006, 10:18 AM

[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
I was actually glad that Uranus and Neptune were not around. I really can't stand them.

[/ QUOTE ]

! Never expected to hear you diss a canon yuri couple! I kind of like them for how they relentlessly tease everyone else.

I'm with the poster who would move Stars-A up into season 4 (although technically, it really is the introduction of Galaxia); this would of course free up six episodes for Aluminum Siren/Lead Crow fun (whose absence makes Stars less enjoyable for me, to get back to the subject).

GetBackersFreak

01-27-2006, 10:53 AM

Oh, that's not even hard at ALL. The first name that came to mind...

Shinobu Morita from Honey and Clover.

When he's away, the mice don't play. At all. They mostly just sulk and eat cheese with each other. And there's crying involved because someone likes one type of cheese but that cheese doesn't like them. I'm giving too much away so I'll shut up now.

something

01-27-2006, 04:59 PM

[ QUOTE ]
GBF said:
Oh, that's not even hard at ALL. The first name that came to mind...
Shinobu Morita from Honey and Clover.

[/ QUOTE ]

Heh, I can agree with this to an extent. Morita is awesome. On the other hand though, I went nuts when Ayu wasn't on screen (yes, I know a lot of you hate her). Hagu and Takemoto weren't nearly as interesting. Takemoto's little adventure in the latter parts was even boring at times. I just watched the Special Chapter L and it was PAINFULLY BAD /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif because... just... blah too many guys!

That said, I still love the show and don't dislike Takemoto or Mayama ro anything, but Ayu made the show for me.

bender

01-28-2006, 04:29 PM

Tuxedo Mask.

pianocello

01-29-2006, 12:00 AM

[ QUOTE ]
tengu said:
Tuxedo Mask.

[/ QUOTE ]

Tuzedo Mask's absence makes the Sailor Moon series more enjoyable.

Njr Scrawl

01-29-2006, 05:09 AM

[ QUOTE ]
piano_cello_conducting said:
[ QUOTE ]
tengu said:
Tuxedo Mask.

[/ QUOTE ]

Tuxedo Mask's absence makes the Sailor Moon series more enjoyable.

[/ QUOTE ]

Indeed. Usagi's emotional agony in Stars gives the series that much more poignancy. I actually think Seiya suited her better, but s/he probably would have left her to return to the Fireball Princess.
Usagi's breakdown when Seiya saved her dressed similarity to Tuxedo, and she realised how much she needed Mamoru, & others to keep her happy - not being a loner - is as heartrending as Misato's in Eva over Kaji and Hikaru's in KOR over Kyosuke.

I'll always wonder if Mamoru, still went to the US to study as he was doing when Galaxia "killed" him, or decided to remain in Japan with Usagi after Stars ended

K7P5V

02-22-2006, 11:57 AM

[ QUOTE ]
KasiTL said:
I'm going to be a bit deviant and say Brock, not Misty, from Pokemon. I was really sad when Brock left (and I believe that happed when I had a crush on him). When they first introduced Tracey, I thought he might be interesting ("ooh, an artist! That'll be kinda neat!") but he was very lame when he wasn't dabbling in Misty's love life. He had a cool Scyther though. Also missed Butterfree and Charizard greatly, but Charizard pops in every now and then from what I've heard. The show's more enjoyable overall when there's an alternative antagonist, so it'd be nice for more/to bring past ones that aren't reformed back more often.

In Fushigi Yuugi, Nuriko's death definetly removes a bit of the fun factor and it's sad not to have such a cool character around. I'd also like to see Tomo in a storyarch that's actually good for once; he's deffinetly different and interesting. Oh, and after Tasuki joins it deffinetly is a bit more fun, and he's in one of the best fights in the series.

I think season four of Sailor Moon could possibly have benefitted from the presense of the outter scouts.

Does Sorceror Hunters have the characters from Sorceror on the Rocks in it? *hasn't gotten past the first disk* If not, I am sad, because I got the series in the hopes that the characters from the SotR ova make an appearance. They entertain me so much. Carrot isn't that entertaining yet, and I can't decide who he reminds me of.

[/ QUOTE ]

You know, I`m rather pleased you mentioned Fushigi Yuugi since I`m such a great fan of the show. And after all these years, I still consider the priestess of Suzaku (aka the small naturally brown-haired lady) one of my all-time favorite FEMALE anime characters.

But I admit I felt the absence of my 2nd favorite FEMALE character from Fushigi Yuugi, Xi Fang the adoptive daughter of Master Tokaki. Many people won`t remember her, but I still thought it was very kind of her to tend the wounds and watch over the fallen Sou Kishuku (aka Tamahome).

citicslmatts

02-22-2006, 02:17 PM

I really missed Koinosuke in J2 - I thought he was great in the first series...

There are a number of cool bits in the first series involving him (The one that spings to mind was where he was using a 'breathing technique' in order to run at insane speed... Awesome!) and so I was a bit disappointed at his limited appearance in J2... For the first few episodes I was itching for Jubei to use the 'Koinosuke whistle' and for him to take his role in the show, but no - denied!!! His son was still quite cool though...