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ohtori_akio
02-06-2006, 09:20 PM
I've just been visiting a few Sailor Moon fansites and it seems not only are a few of them made by guys but some of them even mention how Sailor Moon has a large male following although it was originally aimed at girls. As a gay man, I can see all the attraction Sailor Moon offers. It's a fun, entertaining and highly enjoyable piece. Is that the reason other guys (non-gay) like it or is it for the short skirts and Sailor suits? /images/graemlins/happy.gif

I'd also like to hear other people's opinion as to what makes Sailor Moon touch you (no subtext intended) no matter your gender or sexual preference...

Dagger
02-06-2006, 09:40 PM
I'm fairly certain that a Sailor Moon transformation sequence was the first scrap of anime I ever saw (while flipping channels, IIRC). It made a big impression on me. Years later, I still see a certain beauty in all of the show's transformation sequences and attacks.

The repetitive nature of the series is relaxing but not boring. It's so joyfully over the top that you can take certain aspects of it seriously, relentlessly mock others and still enjoy the whole package. It strikes a surprisingly excellent balance in that regard. It's funny, it indulges in a lot of self-mockery, and and at times it's almost shockingly clever. That gives my inner sap an excuse to revel in all the silly roses and romantic grandeur.

I've only seen the first three seasons, but I'm planning to start Super S relatively soon. I really, really loved S; seeing it for the first time after having watched Utena several times gave me quite a chuckle. It's wonderful to be able to recognize Ikuhara's influence here and there.

golthin
02-06-2006, 09:41 PM
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shounen kakumei akio said:
is it for the short skirts and Sailor suits

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that is why I watched the show when it used to show on TV.
I bought the first collection that ADV put out and then I resold it. There are better shows in the Fanservice department now days /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif. I still like the show.

SnowfairyX
02-06-2006, 09:46 PM
I didn't really care much for the show myself, but I know that my brother watched it for the shallow reasons that you mentioned. I believe that he's probably part of the majority of guys that watch the show for that reason, but that's just my opinion. Some guys even cosplay as these characters too and I've always wondered what the heck was up with that? /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif I don't know if they're trying to be funny or that they're just that nuts? /images/graemlins/stunned1.gif

something
02-06-2006, 09:51 PM
Why might a guy like a show like Sailor Moon? The same reason any guy might like any "girly" show -- not all of us buy into the socially constructed "this is for guys, this is for girls" dichotomy. So, instead, they put aside he surface characteristics and judge it just like any other show. I don't watch Sailor Moon myself, but I'm all about Kaleido Star or Super GALS or Full Moon wo Sagashite or (etc). So, I suppose the answer is a lot simpler than one might think: they like it because they think it's a good show.

ohtori_akio
02-06-2006, 09:52 PM
The similarities with Utena were things that just made Sailor Moon S more enjoyable to me (I know it was made before Utena). Add to that one of the best endings you could hope for and it was a classic. Although the SuperS season of Sailor Moon was nowhere near as good as the first 3, I cannot say it wasn't enjoyable. This has got to be the only 150+ episode show that was never a pain for me to watch.

battra92
02-06-2006, 09:54 PM
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disarm said:
Why might a guy like a show like Sailor Moon? The same reason any guy might like any "girly" show -- not all of us buy into the socially constructed "this is for guys, this is for girls" dichotomy.

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Some of that is actually biological, ya know guys getting bathed in testosterone when they were babies in the womb.

I like Sailor Moon as a guilty pleasure. It's too silly not to like it and it does have more action than shopping scenes.

something
02-06-2006, 09:56 PM
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Battra92 said:
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disarm said:
Why might a guy like a show like Sailor Moon? The same reason any guy might like any "girly" show -- not all of us buy into the socially constructed "this is for guys, this is for girls" dichotomy.

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Some of that is actually biological, ya know guys getting bathed in testosterone when they were babies in the womb.

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No doubt, but it's a lot easier to overcome parts of that than it's made out to be.

golthin
02-06-2006, 09:58 PM
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disarm said:
but I'm all about Kaleido Star or Super GALS or Full Moon wo Sagashite

[/ QUOTE ]NOOO! those are not girly shows! I resist to belive they are girly shows /images/graemlins/wink.gif

something
02-06-2006, 10:03 PM
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golthin said:
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disarm said:
but I'm all about Kaleido Star or Super GALS or Full Moon wo Sagashite

[/ QUOTE ]NOOO! those are not girly shows! I resist to belive they are girly shows /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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"Aimed at" girls then =P

lostnomad84
02-06-2006, 10:48 PM
I can't honestly say I 'like' it, but I will say this, the day I purchased the first boxset was one of the most bizarre days of my life. With that noted, I was also curious about the set itself and said, "what the heck?!" I bought it, watched it. Enjoyed it, but not to a fan level. However, I decided I just wanted to see all of it, thus I bought it all.

maxanime
02-06-2006, 11:09 PM
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golthin said:
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disarm said:
but I'm all about Kaleido Star or Super GALS or Full Moon wo Sagashite

[/ QUOTE ]NOOO! those are not girly shows! I resist to belive they are girly shows /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Super Gals felt pretty damn girly to me. /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif

After several reruns that feeling went away /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Falcon_73
02-07-2006, 12:16 AM
I have only watched 1 disc of Sailor Moon S so far, but I was surprised by how quickly I was enthralled by the show. I don't normally go for episodic or monster of the week shows, but I don't find myself minding that theme at this point. There is a level of intrigue going on right now as to the true nature of two of the Sailor Soldiers and I'm very curious as to where they will go with it.

At first it seemed that I might tire of the repetitive transformations, but instead I find myself wanting to exclaim "Mars Star Power ... Make Up!" etc. right along with them. Maybe it will become clear why I like the show when I get a chance to watch more of it, but right now it's just so charming and entertaining.

Oh yeah, I guess there's also the outfits. /images/graemlins/wink.gif Yes, I like long legs and short skirts, but I must admit Sailor Moon has the best shoes/boots I've yet to see in anime. My Sailor Mars project (http://members.cox.net/falcon_77/Sailor-Mars/) showcases one example.

I'm looking forward to watching more of Sailor Moon. /images/graemlins/happy.gif ...um, when I can find it...

Rhodes
02-07-2006, 12:46 AM
cute girls in mini skirts and sailor suits with spike heels... hey whats not to like? doesnt hurt that the original jp stories are good, great character development, story arcs with a begining and an ending, the characters are fun and the jp audio track features some of the best talent jp has to offer... and the opening song is catchy too.

Suwako Moriya
02-07-2006, 01:07 AM
Cute girls, transformation scenes, magical attacks and the story was pretty decent. At least that's what got me into the anime. However it's been awhile since I watched any of it. Be it edited or uncut. Also I never finished the series. Thus my view on it may be completely different if I were to rewatch it and heck even finish watching it completely.

ohtori_akio
02-07-2006, 03:13 AM
Your Sailor Mars project looks interesting... Although I'm not quite sure you are trying to achieve with it. I think you're going to like the ride with Sailor Moon S. This show invented monster of the week and for some reason knows how to handle it...

With the shoes, Mars has my favourites, Red High Heels are /images/graemlins/noseblef.gif Jupiter and Neptune also have great pairs... God I'm gay!!

Kris Z
02-07-2006, 08:05 AM
I am a guy and I admit that I am a Shojo freak.

In Anime I love Princess Nine, Kaliedo Star, Full Moon Wo Sagashite.

In Manga I love W Juliet, Hana Kimi, Fruits Basket, Kare Kano, Ultramaniac, Shinshi Doumei Cross, Full Moon Wo Sagashite, Nana, Absolute Boyfriend, Ceres, Alice 19th, Sailor Moon, Codename Sailor V, Imadoki, Fushigi Yugi and More.

I just love shojo overall because it is able to capture me emotionally far better than what a shonen series is capable of. Not to mention it has a good bonus of having cute girls and handsome guys (So sue me, I prefer both sexes to be attractive when I read a piece of work. I hate it when a series is unrealistic and has the nerdy dude gets the hot girl. We all know reality isn't like that).

Isuzu Inugami
02-07-2006, 11:12 AM
Well, the short skirts don't hurt any, and those gals have great gams, but when you really look at it, apart from transformation sequences (which tend to get old eventually anyway), Sailor Moon has very little actual fanservice.

What appeals in the show is the characters, who have a great deal of depth and individual personality, and whose interactions are really what make the show fun. In fact, by the end of the series the standard monster-of-the-week element is almost perfunctory, and it's practically all about the character interactions.

In addition to that, seasons 3 and 5 (at least) have some great, intense plotting in the overall storyline that keep you coming back for more. And an underlying message that favors redemption over punishment makes the show ultimately very positive and uplifting.

Shsway
02-07-2006, 03:30 PM
I was first attracted to the subtext/maintext and storytelling of S, but later realized that the original first season kicked so much more ass. And the animation in Super S is terribly gorgeous/cute at times.

For me, it's all about the girls as a group. Their friendship, the relationships between specific pairs in the group (you know, some are just closer to one other), and how they deal with not only saving the world, but enduring typical girl issues. Sailor Moon is a property that has never been afraid to be girly at the risk of being silly or overdoing it sometimes. And yet, it's a show that still manages to be empowering. There's slice-of-life, death, super-deformed situations, snack foods, angst, moronic villains, sleep-overs, cute pets and even past/future incarnations for all of the characters. What's not to love?

AbeChinchilla
02-07-2006, 03:55 PM
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shounen kakumei akio said:
The similarities with Utena were things that just made Sailor Moon S more enjoyable to me (I know it was made before Utena). Add to that one of the best endings you could hope for and it was a classic. Although the SuperS season of Sailor Moon was nowhere near as good as the first 3, I cannot say it wasn't enjoyable. This has got to be the only 150+ episode show that was never a pain for me to watch.

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Blah blah blah.
Sailor Moon SuperS kicks all the other seasons' asses.

No other season have such interesting victims-of-the-day.

Season 1 - Nameless crowds of people, no-name single people.
Season 2 - Nameless crowds of people/consumers.
Season 3 - Mostly no-name people.
Season 4 - Interesting people who are nicely fleshed out within the show's 20 minutes of non-reused animation.
Season 5 - Ha ha ha. (See season 1 and 3)

AbeChinchilla
02-07-2006, 03:56 PM
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shounen kakumei akio said:
Your Sailor Mars project looks interesting... Although I'm not quite sure you are trying to achieve with it. I think you're going to like the ride with Sailor Moon S. This show invented monster of the week and for some reason knows how to handle it...

With the shoes, Mars has my favourites, Red High Heels are /images/graemlins/noseblef.gif Jupiter and Neptune also have great pairs... God I'm gay!!

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So, did you like seeing the REAL Rei Hino in spandex and high heels? (cough-Ikuhara's other self-cough)

Fencedude
02-07-2006, 03:56 PM
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AbeChinchilla said:
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shounen kakumei akio said:
The similarities with Utena were things that just made Sailor Moon S more enjoyable to me (I know it was made before Utena). Add to that one of the best endings you could hope for and it was a classic. Although the SuperS season of Sailor Moon was nowhere near as good as the first 3, I cannot say it wasn't enjoyable. This has got to be the only 150+ episode show that was never a pain for me to watch.

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Blah blah blah.
Sailor Moon SuperS kicks all the other seasons' asses.

No other season have such interesting victims-of-the-day.

Season 1 - Nameless crowds of people, no-name single people.
Season 2 - Nameless crowds of people/consumers.
Season 3 - Mostly no-name people.
Season 4 - Interesting people who are nicely fleshed out within the show's 20 minutes of non-reused animation.
Season 5 - Ha ha ha. (See season 1 and 3)

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Unfortunately, SuperS has way too much of the Spoor.

AbeChinchilla
02-07-2006, 03:58 PM
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Fencedude said:
Unfortunately, SuperS has way too much of the Spoor.

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So did Season 2 and 3. People forget these things.

Fencedude
02-07-2006, 03:59 PM
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AbeChinchilla said:
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Fencedude said:
Unfortunately, SuperS has way too much of the Spoor.

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So did Season 2 and 3. People forget these things.

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No, I said "Way too much", not "The presense of".

I can handle her, especially when she's being offset by the infinitely more awesome Hotaru.

But an entire season revolving around her was just too much.

Isuzu Inugami
02-07-2006, 04:16 PM
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Fencedude said:

Unfortunately, SuperS has way too much of the Spoor.

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Totally countered by her bestial, equine romance.

Fencedude
02-07-2006, 04:36 PM
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Shimauma said:
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Fencedude said:

Unfortunately, SuperS has way too much of the Spoor.

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Totally countered by her bestial, equine romance.

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Oh, don't remind me.

HotaruXChibiUsa has so much potential...

Isuzu Inugami
02-07-2006, 04:50 PM
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Fencedude said:


HotaruXChibiUsa has so much potential...

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Ah... true... there is that....

She's just fickle!

Dang, now I don't like her anymore! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Shsway
02-07-2006, 07:13 PM
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Fencedude said:
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Shimauma said:
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Fencedude said:
Unfortunately, SuperS has way too much of the Spoor.

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Totally countered by her bestial, equine romance.

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HotaruXChibiUsa has so much potential...

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Shimauma said:
She's just fickle!

Dang, now I don't like her anymore! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Hehe. I never really had as much time as other people to develop a patent dislike for the kid. It took years for me to finally see R, with her proper introduction and all. I believe I was really shocked about how horrible I thought she was there, despite my previous experience with the character.

Falcon_73
02-07-2006, 07:21 PM
This may not be the forum for it, but since we are on the topic of Sailor Moon, can anyone tell me what the Japanese is for the "...punish you" proclamation? This is usually done by Sailor Moon herself with the "trademark" arm movements. Thanks. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

However, if you see me trying to do this.... /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Dragon_Shiryu
02-07-2006, 07:29 PM
I don't like it, but I watched 70 episodes. The characters are fun, so I guess that could be one of the reasons. The music isn't bad either.

My gripe with it is that I got tired of it, because I knew what would happen in most episodes.

EmperorBrandon
02-07-2006, 07:32 PM
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Falcon_73 said:
This may not be the forum for it, but since we are on the topic of Sailor Moon, can anyone tell me what the Japanese is for the "...punish you" proclamation?

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Could be wrong, but I think it is "Tsukini kawatte... oshiokiyo!"

pianocello
02-07-2006, 09:24 PM
Why do I like Sailor Moon?
(1)Character development and character growth.
(2)Multi-dimensional and sympathetic villains.
(3)Able to make me laugh one moment and make me cry the next moment.
(4)Great songs
(4)Great seiyuu.

ohtori_akio
02-08-2006, 01:16 AM
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Dragon Shiryu said:
I don't like it, but I watched 70 episodes. The characters are fun, so I guess that could be one of the reasons. The music isn't bad either.

My gripe with it is that I got tired of it, because I knew what would happen in most episodes.

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The Saint Seiya influence is cool too though, wouldn't you say? I think it's what attracted me to it in the first place Shiryu... I was such a Hyoga fanboy when I was younger, it's not funny!

ohtori_akio
02-08-2006, 01:19 AM
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AbeChinchilla said:
So, did you like seeing the REAL Rei Hino in spandex and high heels? (cough-Ikuhara's other self-cough)

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How could you not? You can't resist that person's charm...

vtr9kvictor
02-08-2006, 05:26 AM
My two cents:

Sailor Moon is (as someone else has probably already said) a Gateway Drug. It is one of the first anime I (and many other anime fans) ever experienced. What I liked about it was the continuing storyline. It wasn't just a bunch of half hour shows thrown together to keep a kid busy so his parents could make dinner. It had a plot, and it went somewhere. It included story elements UNHEARD OF in American Children's TV - character deaths, homosexuality (I don't think ANYONE bought Zoicite being a woman), an orphan living on her own, betrayal, and it did it honestly, you knew when Makoto/Lita went home at night no one was there to say 'hi' to her, you could see the pain of Nephlite's loss in Naru/Molly's eyes after he died, Usagi/Serena's desperate and mostly futile attempts to free Mamoru/Darien hurt her severely, when Ami is forced to leave Japan by her Mother you can feel the conflict within her and the pain her friends felt for losing her, these things happened and continued to affect the story, events HAD consequences. There were very few shows like that around the time when it was first running (basically just Robotech and Star Balzers, which coincedentally are also Gateway Drugs). And for its time the animation was really good. That is what initially attracted me to the show.

Man, the R and S movies were awesome. I may have to break them out this week and watch em again.

The sailor suit thing came to me later on, after I discovered the 'internet' and 'doujinshi'.

sawmill
02-08-2006, 09:11 AM
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AbeChinchilla said:
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shounen kakumei akio said:
Your Sailor Mars project looks interesting... Although I'm not quite sure you are trying to achieve with it. I think you're going to like the ride with Sailor Moon S. This show invented monster of the week and for some reason knows how to handle it...

With the shoes, Mars has my favourites, Red High Heels are /images/graemlins/noseblef.gif Jupiter and Neptune also have great pairs... God I'm gay!!

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So, did you like seeing the REAL Rei Hino in spandex and high heels? (cough-Ikuhara's other self-cough)

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Umm, the reference is escaping me. Something unrelated to Sailor Moon? Or something that comes later?

Isuzu Inugami
02-08-2006, 10:27 AM
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sawmill said:
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AbeChinchilla said:

So, did you like seeing the REAL Rei Hino in spandex and high heels? (cough-Ikuhara's other self-cough)

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Umm, the reference is escaping me. Something unrelated to Sailor Moon? Or something that comes later?

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IIRC, Ikuhara (the director of half of R and all of S and SuperS) cosplayed as Sailor Mars at a convention somewhere. There's a picture floating around somewhere. He's a bit cagey when talking about it--"I was going to, but my friend Rei Hino substituted for me at the last moment." Or something. I guess she's his favorite character (he also kept wanting to write Tuxedo Mask out of the show, but they wouldn't let him.)

quenelf
02-08-2006, 03:11 PM
Because it's emotional and not afraid to show it, containing a serious melodramatic plot alongside a degree of silliness.

--quen

AbeChinchilla
02-08-2006, 03:29 PM
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Shimauma said:
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sawmill said:
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AbeChinchilla said:

So, did you like seeing the REAL Rei Hino in spandex and high heels? (cough-Ikuhara's other self-cough)

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Umm, the reference is escaping me. Something unrelated to Sailor Moon? Or something that comes later?

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IIRC, Ikuhara (the director of half of R and all of S and SuperS) cosplayed as Sailor Mars at a convention somewhere. There's a picture floating around somewhere. He's a bit cagey when talking about it--"I was going to, but my friend Rei Hino substituted for me at the last moment." Or something. I guess she's his favorite character (he also kept wanting to write Tuxedo Mask out of the show, but they wouldn't let him.)

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Not only write out, but just flat out murder the bastard. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

aleczman
02-08-2006, 05:09 PM
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shounen kakumei akio said:
Is that the reason other guys (non-gay) like it or is it for the short skirts and Sailor suits? /images/graemlins/happy.gif

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Looking at Chibiusa gives me a funny feeling in my pants.

Fencedude
02-08-2006, 05:20 PM
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AbeChinchilla said:
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Shimauma said:
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sawmill said:
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AbeChinchilla said:

So, did you like seeing the REAL Rei Hino in spandex and high heels? (cough-Ikuhara's other self-cough)

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Umm, the reference is escaping me. Something unrelated to Sailor Moon? Or something that comes later?

[/ QUOTE ]

IIRC, Ikuhara (the director of half of R and all of S and SuperS) cosplayed as Sailor Mars at a convention somewhere. There's a picture floating around somewhere. He's a bit cagey when talking about it--"I was going to, but my friend Rei Hino substituted for me at the last moment." Or something. I guess she's his favorite character (he also kept wanting to write Tuxedo Mask out of the show, but they wouldn't let him.)

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Not only write out, but just flat out murder the bastard. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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This sounds like an interesting story, more details?

Njr Scrawl
02-08-2006, 05:35 PM
I'm 100% hetero & like Sailor Moon. I think that the series humanity, & its characters' real-like personalities & problems charmed me. Plus its Japanese uniqueness.

And Kotono Mitsuishi as Usagi. Kotono was the seiyuu for Misato, my favourite character in Evangelion, my favourite series (before KOR, now its 2nd). Moving to BSSM, her best known character's series was inevitable.

BSSM's appeal is same as the Spider-Man comics had. With great power comes great responsibility coupled with vulnerable angsty heroes. Also the fun moments, fairy tale elements & evil villains.

Then along came Ami & Rei. Ami is cute, bright, sweet & intelligent. Rei is cute, sharp, athletic but good hearted. Usagi is cute, good-hearted, sympathetic, dim & klutzy - with a nagging cat. Before Makoto & Minako joined, those three were already an addictive force to watch at work & play.
So the Fantastic Three, only with Peter Parkers youth & more power.

GyBaNO
02-08-2006, 05:35 PM
I love Sailor Moon because it features a ton of goofy ass shit, plus the characters (which are very likeable IMO) and the situations that they're thrusted into, is a joy (guilty pleasure if you would) to watch for me.

Is it so wrong for a Sailor Moon fan to actually like Chiba-Usa though? Gotta love the misunderstood characters. *runs*

My cousin whom I live with often calls me a pedophile for collecting this and other mahou shoujo shows. Thing is, is that the little hypocrite sits there and watches it right along with me and enjoys it just as well. Though he'll sit there and lampoon the show as we watch it. One the best things he made up is when Luna flips around and makes the girls various battle items, he calls that "Magical Cat Piss Power," and it can be applied to various other anime as well. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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Fencedude said:
This sounds like an interesting story, more details?

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I'd like to hear more about this too.

Suwako Moriya
02-08-2006, 05:43 PM
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AbeChinchilla said:
Not only write out, but just flat out murder the bastard. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Wow someone must have a deep hatred for Tuxedo Mask. Then again the darn jerk is quite lazy. I mean he helps for a second, gives a speech and then runs off.

GyBaNO
02-08-2006, 05:46 PM
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Kiku Sarasugawa said:
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AbeChinchilla said:
Not only write out, but just flat out murder the bastard. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Wow someone must have a deep hatred for Tuxedo Mask. Then again the darn jerk is quite lazy. I mean he helps for a second, gives a speech and then runs off.

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We often call him "Tuxedo Flask" because of that. Its much more fun to think of him of some kind of drunk who just happens to run into the girls as they're fighting, then takes a long swig out of his whiskey flask and runs off (or falls somewhere).

Suwako Moriya
02-08-2006, 05:53 PM
Tuxedo Mask: My purpose is to be a plot device, give a speech and then vanish so you can start staring at girls in skirts again. So away I go!

AbeChinchilla
02-08-2006, 06:00 PM
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Fencedude said:
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AbeChinchilla said:
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Shimauma said:
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sawmill said:
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AbeChinchilla said:

So, did you like seeing the REAL Rei Hino in spandex and high heels? (cough-Ikuhara's other self-cough)

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Umm, the reference is escaping me. Something unrelated to Sailor Moon? Or something that comes later?

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IIRC, Ikuhara (the director of half of R and all of S and SuperS) cosplayed as Sailor Mars at a convention somewhere. There's a picture floating around somewhere. He's a bit cagey when talking about it--"I was going to, but my friend Rei Hino substituted for me at the last moment." Or something. I guess she's his favorite character (he also kept wanting to write Tuxedo Mask out of the show, but they wouldn't let him.)

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Not only write out, but just flat out murder the bastard. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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This sounds like an interesting story, more details?

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Ikuhara just didn't like him.
Couldn't blame him.
But Tuxedo Mask was hilarious in SuperS.
While fucking annoying in the first two seasons.
(And useless in S, with the Outer soldiers around)

ibby
02-08-2006, 06:37 PM
Simply becuase of the characters and story.

Falcon_73
02-08-2006, 08:29 PM
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Wrath of the Njr said:
And Kotono Mitsuishi as Usagi. Kotono was the seiyuu for Misato, my favourite character in Evangelion, my favourite series (before KOR, now its 2nd). Moving to BSSM, her best known character's series was inevitable.


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I was quite surprised to find this out. Kotono Mitsuishi continues to amaze me with her talent.

I was also surprised to find that Rika Fukami (Venus) & Aya Hisakawa (Mercury) were in it. This was definitely a pleasant surprise, even if they sound different... Beneej Spaurh (CotS) and Youko Nakajima (12K) in Sailor Moon along with Misato... wow!

Another note is that the Japanese VA's for the main group are all older than I am; all having been born in the 60's. I always did like older women. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

jecca-neko
02-08-2006, 08:35 PM
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disarm said:
Why might a guy like a show like Sailor Moon? The same reason any guy might like any "girly" show -- not all of us buy into the socially constructed "this is for guys, this is for girls" dichotomy. So, instead, they put aside he surface characteristics and judge it just like any other show. I don't watch Sailor Moon myself, but I'm all about Kaleido Star or Super GALS or Full Moon wo Sagashite or (etc). So, I suppose the answer is a lot simpler than one might think: they like it because they think it's a good show.

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Good answer. I think another reason guys watch it (male friends and my boyfriend included) is the attractive girls with long hair (ie Sailor Mars). /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

My reason? I'm not entirely sure, actually, beyond the "good show" and "good music" reasons. Back then, when it was airing on TV, shows such as Power Rangers were on TV. I did watch and like Power Rangers back then (I still wish they'd release the original Japanese show on DVD here in the US) and Sailor Moon has Power Rangers-like elements to it.

jecca-neko
02-08-2006, 08:37 PM
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Unfortunately, SuperS has way too much of the Spoor.

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So did Season 2 and 3. People forget these things.

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Yes, but see, season 3 Chibi-usa was sometimes comedic relief. Look at the episodes where her stupid Pink Sugar Heart Attack doesn't work, or when it does, it doesn't hurt the enemy, just annoys them. For that reason, I don't mind Chibi-usa AT ALL in the S season. She cracks me up. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

jecca-neko
02-08-2006, 08:46 PM
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Falcon_73 said:
I have only watched 1 disc of Sailor Moon S so far, but I was surprised by how quickly I was enthralled by the show. I don't normally go for episodic or monster of the week shows, but I don't find myself minding that theme at this point. There is a level of intrigue going on right now as to the true nature of two of the Sailor Soldiers and I'm very curious as to where they will go with it.

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That intrigue tends to continue with Sailor Moon S, even when the identities of the two new Sailor Soldiers are revealed to the rest of the team. A lot of people call S the darkest series of the 5 and I tend to agree. It's my favorite season and I highly encourage you to try to find the rest. If you enjoyed volume 1, you'll love the series up through the end.

After that, if you still want more, my next suggestions would be the original series and the R movie. You'll see how the team of 5, Moon/Mars/Mercury/Venus/Jupiter, meets up and when you watch it you'll see how much each character has changed, for the better, since they started. Usagi, Sailor Moon, will be a lot different from how you have seen her so far in S. The R movie, like the rest of the movies, doesn't truly connect in the main storyline, but it does take place before S, so you'll know the powers and transformations.

Falcon_73
02-08-2006, 08:55 PM
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So, did you like seeing the REAL Rei Hino in spandex and high heels? (cough-Ikuhara's other self-cough)

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Umm, the reference is escaping me. Something unrelated to Sailor Moon? Or something that comes later?

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IIRC, Ikuhara (the director of half of R and all of S and SuperS) cosplayed as Sailor Mars at a convention somewhere. There's a picture floating around somewhere. He's a bit cagey when talking about it--"I was going to, but my friend Rei Hino substituted for me at the last moment." Or something. I guess she's his favorite character (he also kept wanting to write Tuxedo Mask out of the show, but they wouldn't let him.)

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I thought this was a reference to the live action series. Thanks for clearing it up. Hmm, so he had an "evil twin" named Rei Hino... interesting. /images/graemlins/devil.gif

Looking up more about the character Rei Hino, her name means "fire's spirit" and I see she is an Aries... like me. I've always been fascinated by the planet Mars as well... JPL Mars missions, Mars movies, etc.

Maybe I'm just making up excuses as to why I like her, besides the shoes. /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

Falcon_73
02-08-2006, 09:13 PM
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jecca-neko said:
That intrigue tends to continue with Sailor Moon S, even when the identities of the two new Sailor Soldiers are revealed to the rest of the team. A lot of people call S the darkest series of the 5 and I tend to agree. It's my favorite season and I highly encourage you to try to find the rest. If you enjoyed volume 1, you'll love the series up through the end.

After that, if you still want more, my next suggestions would be the original series and the R movie. You'll see how the team of 5, Moon/Mars/Mercury/Venus/Jupiter, meets up and when you watch it you'll see how much each character has changed, for the better, since they started. Usagi, Sailor Moon, will be a lot different from how you have seen her so far in S. The R movie, like the rest of the movies, doesn't truly connect in the main storyline, but it does take place before S, so you'll know the powers and transformations.

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Thank you for your suggestions and for the insight. I will be getting the first season soon (I won an auction on it last night). However, now I have to decide if I'm going to keep renting S, while I keep looking for the set. I also need to decide if I should start at the beginning or if I should just keep watching S (assuming I can get it). Decisions, decisions... I'm looking forward to whatever I can watch. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Can anyone tell me a little bit about Sailor Pluto and Sailor Saturn? Without spoiling too much... /images/graemlins/wink.gif ...I have only seen Saturn on website pictures and Pluto in the S OP and also on websites.

Thanks again,

Fencedude
02-08-2006, 09:37 PM
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Falcon_73 said:

Can anyone tell me a little bit about Sailor Pluto and Sailor Saturn? Without spoiling too much... /images/graemlins/wink.gif ...I have only seen Saturn on website pictures and Pluto in the S OP and also on websites.

Thanks again,

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Pluto is the "Guardian of Time" (or somesuch), she is older than the rest, carries a long staff, and generally only steps in if she REALLY has to.

Saturn is basically the Senshi's failsafe. If EVERYTHING else fails, and evil is about to win, you bring in Saturn, she drops the Silence Glaive, and everyone dies.

DeadlyMessiah
02-09-2006, 06:50 AM
LEt's see, Sailor Moon has:

1. Awesome Villians
2. A great story
3. Comedy that fits
4. Drama that isn't over the top (most of the time)
5. The live action had Dark Mercury

I think those are valid enough reasons to like Sailor Moon.

Loafy
02-09-2006, 03:04 PM
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AbeChinchilla said:
Not only write out, but just flat out murder the bastard. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Wow someone must have a deep hatred for Tuxedo Mask. Then again the darn jerk is quite lazy. I mean he helps for a second, gives a speech and then runs off.

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Tuxedo Mask would be a whole lot more useful if he didn't spend half the battle planning his grand entrance and then the other half waiting for the perfect moment to make his appearance. That bitch is such a prima donna it isn't funny. If he could carry around a spotlight to help his entrance he would. I have 2 words for him - cloest homo.

AbeChinchilla
02-09-2006, 08:55 PM
I'd like to add:

Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon > Sailor Moon (anime)
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SAILA senshi sodiwa MOONRIGHT REAL ARRRU!!!

El Santos
02-09-2006, 10:37 PM
i think this the kind show for people that can't sleep watching a minute of it will make you count sheep

Fencedude
02-10-2006, 08:21 AM
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i think this the kind show for people that can't sleep watching a minute of it will make you count sheep

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And how much have YOU actually watched?

TuxedoFred
02-10-2006, 10:04 AM
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Loafy said:
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Kiku Sarasugawa said:
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AbeChinchilla said:
Not only write out, but just flat out murder the bastard. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Wow someone must have a deep hatred for Tuxedo Mask. Then again the darn jerk is quite lazy. I mean he helps for a second, gives a speech and then runs off.

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Tuxedo Mask would be a whole lot more useful if he didn't spend half the battle planning his grand entrance and then the other half waiting for the perfect moment to make his appearance. That bitch is such a prima donna it isn't funny. If he could carry around a spotlight to help his entrance he would. I have 2 words for him - cloest homo.

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Here I come back after spending a week in the frigid northern wastelands of your godforsaken country and find you disparaging the noble Tuxedo Mask. I ask you, have you no decency, sir?

Besides he obviously gets it on with Usagi. And Rei. And Mina. And everyone else. Ahhh, orgies with high school girls...

Loafy
02-10-2006, 10:40 AM
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TuxedoFred said:
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Loafy said:
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Kiku Sarasugawa said:
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AbeChinchilla said:
Not only write out, but just flat out murder the bastard. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Wow someone must have a deep hatred for Tuxedo Mask. Then again the darn jerk is quite lazy. I mean he helps for a second, gives a speech and then runs off.

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Tuxedo Mask would be a whole lot more useful if he didn't spend half the battle planning his grand entrance and then the other half waiting for the perfect moment to make his appearance. That bitch is such a prima donna it isn't funny. If he could carry around a spotlight to help his entrance he would. I have 2 words for him - cloest homo.

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Here I come back after spending a week in the frigid northern wastelands of your godforsaken country and find you disparaging the noble Tuxedo Mask. I ask you, have you no decency, sir?

Besides he obviously gets it on with Usagi. And Rei. And Mina. And everyone else. Ahhh, orgies with high school girls...

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Hey, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. There are plenty of instances of you not wanting to or being embarrassed to kiss Usagi let alone any other girl. You have a penchant for flamboyent outfits and grand entrances. Purple shirt anyone?!? Don't even get me started on Fiore. Add all these up: Tuxedo Mask = Flaming 'Mo
I rest my case Your Honor. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

TuxedoFred
02-10-2006, 11:15 AM
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Loafy said:
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TuxedoFred said:
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Loafy said:
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Kiku Sarasugawa said:
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AbeChinchilla said:
Not only write out, but just flat out murder the bastard. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Wow someone must have a deep hatred for Tuxedo Mask. Then again the darn jerk is quite lazy. I mean he helps for a second, gives a speech and then runs off.

[/ QUOTE ]

Tuxedo Mask would be a whole lot more useful if he didn't spend half the battle planning his grand entrance and then the other half waiting for the perfect moment to make his appearance. That bitch is such a prima donna it isn't funny. If he could carry around a spotlight to help his entrance he would. I have 2 words for him - cloest homo.

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Here I come back after spending a week in the frigid northern wastelands of your godforsaken country and find you disparaging the noble Tuxedo Mask. I ask you, have you no decency, sir?

Besides he obviously gets it on with Usagi. And Rei. And Mina. And everyone else. Ahhh, orgies with high school girls...

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Hey, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. There are plenty of instances of you not wanting to or being embarrassed to kiss Usagi let alone any other girl. You have a penchant for flamboyent outfits and grand entrances. Purple shirt anyone?!? Don't even get me started on Fiore. Add all these up: Tuxedo Mask = Flaming 'Mo
I rest my case Your Honor. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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Well, remember, what we may consider flamboyant in the west may be de rigueur in Japan.

And besides, if fashion were any true indicator of sexual orientation, everyone in the entertainment industry would be gay.

Wait a minute...

bakafoo
02-10-2006, 12:21 PM
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I'd also like to hear other people's opinion as to what makes Sailor Moon touch you (no subtext intended) no matter your gender or sexual preference...

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When I was in:

Grade school: it was the "in"-thing. Plus we get to see 'naked people' transform. And look at them nekkid shots of Rei. Oh Rei.

End of Grade school: Still pretty much the same reason as above, only with Pluto and Mistress of Silence.

High school: just watching it for the hell of it. Nothing really comes into particular.

Now: Eh...

Shsway
02-10-2006, 05:06 PM
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Fencedude said:
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AbeChinchilla said:
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Shimauma said:
...(he also kept wanting to write Tuxedo Mask out of the show, but they wouldn't let him.)

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Not only write out, but just flat out murder the bastard. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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This sounds like an interesting story, more details?

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I'd like to hear more about this too.

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Well, the interview/chat transcript where he talks about this can be found here (http://uranime.nekomusume.net/misc/ikuhara_interview.iphtml), though I don't recall whether there's a link to his cosplaying photo anywhere on that page/site. The Sailor Moon stuff starts fairly close to the end.

ohtori_akio
02-10-2006, 05:27 PM
That's a great interview. And he is really sexy as Sailor Mars, why do Asian men have such nice legs? /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

AbeChinchilla
02-10-2006, 05:32 PM
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shounen kakumei akio said:
That's a great interview. And he is really sexy as Sailor Mars, why do Asian men have such nice legs? /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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I don't know about Asian men, but Ikuhara definately has the legs.

(Sailor Mars has the best female legs in anime, ever!)

jecca-neko
02-10-2006, 05:39 PM
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Falcon_73 said:
Can anyone tell me a little bit about Sailor Pluto and Sailor Saturn? Without spoiling too much... /images/graemlins/wink.gif ...I have only seen Saturn on website pictures and Pluto in the S OP and also on websites.


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Pluto is introduced in the second season, R. Essentially she's the keeper of the gates of space and time and has to stay there guarding the gates, so you don't really see her fight too often (except in S). She shows up about midway through S for a really good reason and sticks around through the end of the season. You can also see her (albeit, a very minor role) in the S and SuperS movies. She doesn't show up in the SuperS TV series (in that season there's only Chibi Moon and the main 5).

Saturn shows up toward the very end of S and there's an extremely good reason for that too. If you want the spoilers for that, Saturn (don't highlight if you don't want to know - it doesn't spoil the end of S or anything, it just explains a little about why it takes so long to show up) <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>is the sailor senshi of destruction who literally has enough power to destroy planets. She only shows up when she needs to do some major destroying.</span>

Enjoy Saturn the little bit of time you see her in S. The only other time she shows up in the entire show is in season 5, Sailor Stars, but that has like a 99% chance of never coming to the US. If you know enough Japanese and have a region 2 capable DVD player, you can do what I did and import the Japanese DVDs.

Edit: By the way, you'll see Chibi Moon starting on disc 3 of S, if I remember right. Ignore the haters - I find her hilarious in S. If you end up wanting to know more about her, she's originally introduced in season 2, R. She doesn't actually become a sailor senshi until S, so you won't miss any of her fights or anything, but in R you'll get to see the backstory of who in the heck this pink haired little girl is.

ohtori_akio
02-10-2006, 05:50 PM
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AbeChinchilla said:
(Sailor Mars has the best female legs in anime, ever!)

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I would agree but where do you place Utena and Anthy on that list coz they have really sexy legs too. And Anthy even wears red high heels /images/graemlins/noseblef.gif

EDIT: Shiori also gets a vote for the movie. Remember the scene Touga puts nail polish on her toe nails...? /images/graemlins/noseblef.gif

Falcon_73
02-10-2006, 08:55 PM
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AbeChinchilla said:
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shounen kakumei akio said:
That's a great interview. And he is really sexy as Sailor Mars, why do Asian men have such nice legs? /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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I don't know about Asian men, but Ikuhara definately has the legs.

(Sailor Mars has the best female legs in anime, ever!)

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Ah, so there are the pics... hmmm, aw come on, those heels aren't that high, cheater... /images/graemlins/tongue.gif ...Ok, yes, um ...Ikuhara has the legs though. I don't think I can bring myself to say "he" ...oops...

Yep, Sailor Mars can compete with Sylia Stingray for legs. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Falcon_73
02-10-2006, 09:14 PM
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jecca-neko said:
Enjoy Saturn the little bit of time you see her in S. The only other time she shows up in the entire show is in season 5, Sailor Stars, but that has like a 99% chance of never coming to the US. If you know enough Japanese and have a region 2 capable DVD player, you can do what I did and import the Japanese DVDs.


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Thank you both (Fencedude too) for the additional info on Pluto and Saturn. I will definitely be anticipating their entrances into the show. It might be a while before I can see it, but I just might be holding my breath by then.

I know enough Japanese to know that I still need subtitles, but at times I just try it anyway. If I can't get enough domestically, I may go the R2 route, at least in part. Is "Stars" worthy of purchase (e.g. did they run out of time to license) or would it be more of an optional series?

Fencedude
02-10-2006, 09:19 PM
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Falcon_73 said:
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jecca-neko said:
Enjoy Saturn the little bit of time you see her in S. The only other time she shows up in the entire show is in season 5, Sailor Stars, but that has like a 99% chance of never coming to the US. If you know enough Japanese and have a region 2 capable DVD player, you can do what I did and import the Japanese DVDs.


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Thank you both (Fencedude too) for the additional info on Pluto and Saturn. I will definitely be anticipating their entrances into the show. It might be a while before I can see it, but I just might be holding my breath by then.

I know enough Japanese to know that I still need subtitles, but at times I just try it anyway. If I can't get enough domestically, I may go the R2 route, at least in part. Is "Stars" worthy of purchase (e.g. did they run out of time to license) or would it be more of an optional series?

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Stars is well worth watching.

I personally wouldn't buy the R2s, but if thats your thing...

BonnKansan
02-10-2006, 09:30 PM
It's got the boom anime babes that make them think the wrong thing. Duh /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

I need to see this one sometime, after reading this thread it sounds worth a try.

jecca-neko
02-10-2006, 09:39 PM
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Falcon_73 said:
Is "Stars" worthy of purchase (e.g. did they run out of time to license) or would it be more of an optional series?

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It's just never been licensed. Rumor says that Toei wouldn't let anyone license it. *shrugs*

I personally think it's worthy of R2 purchase, but I'm a huge Sailor Moon fanatic. The only other way to watch Sailor Stars is by means of questionable legality (aka fansubs and bootlegs).

But in the meantime, you still have plenty to watch. There's 4 seasons and 3 movies to track down!

ohtori_akio
02-10-2006, 10:37 PM
Stars is definitely worth watching. It recaptures a lot of the things that were missing from SuperS, like more focus on Usagi, usage of the outer sailor soldiers and a thighter focus on the inner soldiers (except for my favourite, Mars, who only gets one ep focusing on her /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif).

In other words, if you like the cast past Chibi-usa and Mamoru, you'll like it /images/graemlins/happy.gif
Add the Sailor StarLights or my first encounter with drag queens in anime and it's highly entertaining!

AbeChinchilla
02-10-2006, 10:53 PM
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shounen kakumei akio said:
Stars is definitely worth watching. It recaptures a lot of the things that were missing from SuperS, like more focus on Usagi, usage of the outer sailor soldiers and a thighter focus on the inner soldiers (except for my favourite, Mars, who only gets one ep focusing on her /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif).

In other words, if you like the cast past Chibi-usa and Mamoru, you'll like it /images/graemlins/happy.gif
Add the Sailor StarLights or my first encounter with drag queens in anime and it's highly entertaining!

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SuperS &gt; Stars

jecca-neko
02-10-2006, 11:11 PM
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AbeChinchilla said:
SuperS &gt; Stars

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SuperS &gt; Stars in a music standpoint
SuperS &gt; Stars in a character development standpoint
SuperS &lt; Stars in an overall story standpoint
SuperS &lt; Stars in villain standpoint

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P.S. I hate Queen Nehelenia. Sure she's <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>in Stars too, but at least I see her less. </span>

I do like the Amazon Quartet though.

EmperorBrandon
02-10-2006, 11:57 PM
When I last watched SuperS, I found I liked the Amazon Trio overall more than the Amazones Quartet. Just more interesting to me for the most part.

Njr Scrawl
02-11-2006, 02:57 AM
The dialogue in Stars matters more, because of explanations, songs, relationships etc.

Still plenty of action, but IMO, its all more meaningful, YMMV.

Stars is the most emotional BSSM series throughout, &amp; tops S &amp; Season 1 for dire situations.

Could someone who has the R2J set do reviews &amp; send them to Chris please. Alternatively Hitoshi Doi's site has reviews of each episode here. (http://www.tcp.com/~doi/smoon/episodes/index.html)

jecca-neko
02-11-2006, 02:09 PM
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When I last watched SuperS, I found I liked the Amazon Trio overall more than the Amazones Quartet. Just more interesting to me for the most part.

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The main thing I like about the Amazon Trio is the episode where Minako dates 2 of them at the same time. Hilarious episode. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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Wrath of the Njr said:
Could someone who has the R2J set do reviews &amp; send them to Chris please. Alternatively Hitoshi Doi's site has reviews of each episode here. (http://www.tcp.com/~doi/smoon/episodes/index.html)

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What, for Stars? I suppose I could do that. I'll need to rewatch them again first. Either way, I think there should be a review of volume 1 at least up since it has the "real" ending of SuperS with those first 6 episodes.

ohtori_akio
02-13-2006, 06:18 PM
Just finished this magical girl show recently and I was wondering if Sailor Moon fans in general like Wedding Peach or if they find it a little too close to the source material. I thought the first few episodes were quite similar but it then moved into a plot of its own. So, I liked it. What does everyone else think?

touma
02-13-2006, 06:51 PM
I enjoyed Wedding Peach. To me it seemed different enough that I did not feel like I was watching Sailor Moon again. The various seasons of Sailor Moon are more similar to each other than Wedding Peach is to any of them, IMO, if that makes sense.
Of course there are some strong similarities. Every time that Limone appeared I wondered why Tuxedo Mask had blond hair. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

evilarrex
02-13-2006, 07:14 PM
There are lesbians /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif /images/graemlins/noseblee.gif

jecca-neko
02-13-2006, 08:41 PM
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shounen kakumei akio said:
Just finished this magical girl show recently and I was wondering if Sailor Moon fans in general like Wedding Peach or if they find it a little too close to the source material. I thought the first few episodes were quite similar but it then moved into a plot of its own. So, I liked it. What does everyone else think?

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I watched only the first disc of Wedding Peach. I mostly dropped it due to collecting too many other things at the same time. I might go back to it and if I do I'll definitely buy the thinpacks.

Anyway, from that first volume, it didn't feel like Sailor Moon to me. If I were to compare it to other magical girl shows I've seen, I'd say it feels a little closer to Nurse Angel Ririka (though I like Ririka better from what I saw of Wedding Peach).

Wedding Peach also had a little bit less appeal to me personally in that I can't identify with the characters. Momoko and the other girls' big dream is to, essentially, be beautiful brides when they grow up. I never did and still don't really care about that very much. Maybe it helps that I really hate wearing dresses so can't imagine myself wearing one of those huge, clumsy-looking wedding gowns. /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

jecca-neko
02-13-2006, 08:44 PM
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Arrex said:
There are lesbians /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif /images/graemlins/noseblee.gif

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Half the time it doesn't feel like a lesbian relationship to me. Uranus is pretty much a man. Her voice actress does such a good job of sounding like a guy too that it's easy to forget that she has breasts and that she's wearing a skirt when transformed.

Njr Scrawl
02-14-2006, 02:44 PM
How does Pretty Cure compare to Wedding Peach? Which is better?

Fencedude
02-14-2006, 07:03 PM
Granted I haven't seen Wedding Peach, but from what I know of it, other than both being Magical Girl shows they don't have all that much in common.

pianocello
02-15-2006, 07:25 PM
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Arrex said:
There are lesbians /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif /images/graemlins/noseblee.gif

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Half the time it doesn't feel like a lesbian relationship to me. Uranus is pretty much a man. Her voice actress does such a good job of sounding like a guy too that it's easy to forget that she has breasts and that she's wearing a skirt when transformed.

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Unfortunately, the one canon couple in this anime are some of my least favorite characters in the whole series. I honestly cannot stand Uranus and Neptune.

The main lesbian couples in this series should have been:
ChibiUsa x Hotaru
Aluminium Siren x Lead Crow

Shsway
02-15-2006, 08:04 PM
As for me, I really wish that the whole Mercury/Jupiter thing wasn't just wishful thinking from the fans. It would really work! It's not just a case of it looking nice. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

jecca-neko
02-15-2006, 08:58 PM
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Wrath of the Njr said:
How does Pretty Cure compare to Wedding Peach? Which is better?

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Haven't seen that one.

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piano_cello_conducting said:
Unfortunately, the one canon couple in this anime are some of my least favorite characters in the whole series. I honestly cannot stand Uranus and Neptune.

The main lesbian couples in this series should have been:
ChibiUsa x Hotaru
Aluminium Siren x Lead Crow

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Why not? There were more gay characters than lesbian characters. It would've been a bit more fair. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Shsway said:
As for me, I really wish that the whole Mercury/Jupiter thing wasn't just wishful thinking from the fans. It would really work! It's not just a case of it looking nice. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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I never really got that one personally even though I've seen it mentioned before. I didn't really notice any lesbian hinting with Mercury and Jupiter.

Shsway
02-15-2006, 09:13 PM
It was all small stuff. Like Ami's blush when they're first introduced, an episode from the first season where <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Makoto gets an eyeful of Ami's upturned skirt</span>, or their interaction, when they first run into each other again in R, <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>before regaining their memories of first season events</span>. After that, nothing much at all besides lucky group positioning, until that dance from Super S (though, obviously, things don't go anywhere from there, thanks to a crush that Mako has on an obvious someone else). It all hardly pointed the way to "TRU LOVE, YARRR!", but it was fun to think about.

Dagger
02-15-2006, 10:17 PM
I always felt as if the five main senshi were pretty much mix-and-match, haha. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Njr Scrawl
02-16-2006, 01:57 PM
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Aluminium Siren x Lead Crow

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They were IMO. This is given away mainly by Crow's reactions to Siren's habits - impatient but not nasty, and <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>emotionally after Galaxia had executed Siren</span>, when Tin Nyanko was first around. Crow also respected Siren enough to take Siren's "findings" seriously.

Speedy Boris
02-16-2006, 09:46 PM
I've never seen the original Sailor Moon series, thanks to the fact that nobody currently has U.S. rights to my knowledge, and that may not change anytime soon.

ohtori_akio
02-17-2006, 02:49 AM
I have a question about the adaptation of Sailor Moon. In the manga Rei and Minako are best friends yet their relationship is really lacking in the anime. Is there a particular reason for that? I mean Rei's relationship with both Ami and Makoto have had more screen time...