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theworld

02-20-2006, 02:45 PM

I've heard, in general, some pretty positive opinions surrounding Gantz, and I do admit that I am interested in seeing it...*drools at men in tight black suits*

So, is it worth it?

chloes_fork

02-20-2006, 03:02 PM

I'd say so. Beyond being fun on a pure exploitation level, the show's characters and themes are also more interesting than it's often given credit for.

balthier2012

02-20-2006, 03:19 PM

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The World said:
I've heard, in general, some pretty positive opinions surrounding Gantz, and I do admit that I am interested in seeing it...*drools at men in tight black suits*

So, is it worth it?

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Worth it is a very good question. I "was" the #1 boycotter of Gantz release at 2 episodes per disc. I'm sure some AoD members remember my endless rants and demoralization of ADV Films because of it.

Anyways, that said, HELL YES it's worth it. Luckily I found Vol. 1 w/box + 2,3,4,5,6 used for $40. I marathoned it I could not stop. It's addicting. I immediately bought 7,8,9,10. Gantz goes beyond the boundaries of .. well any anime I've ever seen and all hollywood movies I've seen. Gantz exploits what most writers would fear doing. If you love chaotic situations that never end this is the show for you!

I know it's a gruesome show and all but I was literally on the edge of my seat the whole time with a big /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif going HOLY SHIT! The brutality and intense situations are purely kickass. I've never seen a show more suspensful, most suspense is created with cheap tactics (Like when watching most movies you know the main characters are gonna win in the end anyways) Not that I'm hinting later events I'm just saying.. with Gantz ANYTHING can happen, and when you watch a typical hollywood movie or anime you can tell "the innocent will be saved" and "the good guys will win" This show basically says "fuck that" It's awesome.

I mean if the most notorious boycotter of Gantz release thinks it's worth it.. I think you might find it worthy if you like what you've heard.

CrazyAsano

02-20-2006, 03:31 PM

Gantz embodies one of my favorite things about anime. It doesn't have a giant stick up its ass like the majority of American tv.

balthier2012

02-20-2006, 03:33 PM

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Gantz embodies one of my favorite things about anime. It doesn't have a giant stick up its ass like the majority of American tv.

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That's a good way of putting it /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif Except I think it goes beyond the boundaires of most other anime as well. I mean there are a few others out there, but not many.

Puppet Master

02-20-2006, 03:39 PM

HELL YEAH! It's worth the money easily for me at least it was addicting I bought the thinkpak watched it and went back to Best Buy to get 7-10 after work the next morning. I'd recommend it to anyone who doesnâ€™t mind gore. Itâ€™s just incredible everyone should see it now with its new release! I just wish there was more to it now Iâ€™m hoping to at least see the manga brought over here. But the bottom line is this buy it now! /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

theworld

02-20-2006, 03:43 PM

Well, it's a good thing I bought it just now. *drools at man on cover with tight black suit*

balthier2012

02-20-2006, 03:45 PM

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Well, it's a good thing I bought it just now. *drools at man on cover with tight black suit*

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Hell yea. WTF you still reading this? GO WATCH IT!!! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

ohtori_akio

02-20-2006, 04:00 PM

Okay you sound just like me! Kei-chan in that outfit is wank worthy /images/graemlins/happy.gif
The show itself beyond that is a little disappointing though. There are good aspects but the pacing is a real problem. If it weren't for Kei-chan and the gay guy I forget the name of I probably wouldn't have watch past ep.10...

AbeChinchilla

02-20-2006, 04:05 PM

This was the best show I purchased in 2005. Hands down.
But a lot of naysayers are too used to unrealistic anime. This show focuses on people's inner thoughts about killing and murder. People don't really think about it, especially those who are used to anime where people kill others without a second thought. Even if they aren't human... killing should always be something that makes you feel quite uneasy.

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

AbeChinchilla

02-20-2006, 04:06 PM

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shounen kakumei akio said:
Okay you sound just like me! Kei-chan in that outfit is wank worthy /images/graemlins/happy.gif
The show itself beyond that is a little disappointing though. There are good aspects but the pacing is a real problem. If it weren't for Kei-chan and the gay guy I forget the name of I probably wouldn't have watch past ep.10...

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Kei-chan? As in Kishimoto (the girl?)

Oh... KURONO. /images/graemlins/happy.gif Sorry, I would of never thought of Kurono being called by "Kei-chan" aside from a childhood friend (namely, Kato).

balthier2012

02-20-2006, 09:12 PM

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AbeChinchilla said:
This was the best show I purchased in 2005. Hands down.
But a lot of naysayers are too used to unrealistic anime. This show focuses on people's inner thoughts about killing and murder. People don't really think about it, especially those who are used to anime where people kill others without a second thought. Even if they aren't human... killing should always be something that makes you feel quite uneasy.

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

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Yes. Most look at Gantz and see only the action and gore but it has several deep aspects about it. Such as the purpose of Gantz and how those who reform themselves live longer while those who remain stubborn and unwilling to change, learn, or take advice die. And how sometimes humanity will forsake morality and idealism for survival.

CrazyAsano

02-20-2006, 09:29 PM

Gantz is how Survivor should be.

AbeChinchilla

02-20-2006, 09:38 PM

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Balthier said:
Yes. Most look at Gantz and see only the action and gore but it has several deep aspects about it. Such as the purpose of Gantz and how those who reform themselves live longer while those who remain stubborn and unwilling to change, learn, or take advice die. And how sometimes humanity will forsake morality and idealism for survival.

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Ah, so that is how you saw it too, eh?

I wonder if I'm crazy for thinking Kishimoto had actually already escaped the games earlier on...

theworld

02-20-2006, 11:17 PM

The show is very interesting so far, and I'm so totally loving those tight black suits on Kato, Kei-chan, and the supposedly named "homo" character. Although, I couldn't help but feel a little irked by how ADV decided to translate it as "fag." That, honestly, insulted me. And the reactions from the characters didn't help matters. -_-

Setting that aside, I only have two issues with the show thus far:
1.) Some of the characters act a little too stupid in certain situations. I found myself yelling at them to shoot or get out of the way moreso than any other anime series.
2.) The animation can be very, very choppy at times, though the CG work makes me forgive it at the same time.

All in all, pretty solid.

Puppet Master

02-20-2006, 11:22 PM

Happy you like it as the battles progress for the most part it gets better just wait for the third game it's the best of them all IMO. I can see why you would view some of them as idiots because they were too stupid for words. BTW Balthier I know what you mean it seems three people saw Gantz that way.

theworld

02-20-2006, 11:39 PM

I should hope so. I want my second season DVD set XD

AbeChinchilla

02-21-2006, 02:04 AM

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I should hope so. I want my second season DVD set XD

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Just buy the singles.

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

CrazyAsano

02-21-2006, 03:04 AM

ohtori_akio

02-21-2006, 03:59 AM

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The World said:
I should hope so. I want my second season DVD set XD

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Just buy the singles.

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

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Although I preferred the resolution of the second season, I found that it suffered from even worse pacing. You'll find yourself screaming at them to do more than just stare again there, but this time it's slightly worse....

golthin

02-21-2006, 04:04 AM

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AbeChinchilla said:
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shounen kakumei akio said:
Okay you sound just like me! Kei-chan in that outfit is wank worthy /images/graemlins/happy.gif
The show itself beyond that is a little disappointing though. There are good aspects but the pacing is a real problem. If it weren't for Kei-chan and the gay guy I forget the name of I probably wouldn't have watch past ep.10...

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Kei-chan? As in Kishimoto (the girl?)

Oh... KURONO. /images/graemlins/happy.gif Sorry, I would of never thought of Kurono being called by "Kei-chan" aside from a childhood friend (namely, Kato).

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I would never have thought of Kurono as wank worthy, /images/graemlins/stunned0.gifteaches me how much I know of those things! ã‚ªãƒŠãƒ‹! ã‚ªãƒŠãƒ‹!

golthin

02-21-2006, 04:07 AM

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AbeChinchilla said:
This was the best show I purchased in 2005. Hands down.
But a lot of naysayers are too used to unrealistic anime. This show focuses on people's inner thoughts about killing and murder. People don't really think about it, especially those who are used to anime where people kill others without a second thought. Even if they aren't human... killing should always be something that makes you feel quite uneasy.

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

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I agree with the show being awesome! I rented the show from netflix because I just couldn't handle the 2 episode per disc for the first season. I will probably buy the show when ADV release a complete collection.

theworld

02-21-2006, 08:08 AM

*chuckles and winks* The pretty boys in tight suits are definitely wank worthy. I find it amazing that there's no yaoi out there for this show.

Trey-Trey

02-21-2006, 08:30 AM

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CrazyAsano said:
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AbeChinchilla said:
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The World said:
I should hope so. I want my second season DVD set XD

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Just buy the singles.

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

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You say that about everything.

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ha ha. Yeah, the main thing that the box set has going for it is the smaller size and reduced price. However I prefer the singles because the artwork is better (especially the box). From my understanding, the content is the same. Granted you'll pay about $30 more (during a studio sale at TSRI) but if cost isn't too much of an issue and neither is space, then that's another option.

theworld

02-21-2006, 08:34 AM

I just felt like being cheap.

balthier2012

02-21-2006, 08:58 AM

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I just felt like being cheap.

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I recommend you go buy Vol. 7 w/box and 8-10 now. If you're scrapped for cash don't eat for 3 days, don't do your laundry, and who needs toilet paper use leaves! The show is well worth it and trust me... the annoyance about people not doing things.. gets a little better cuz eventually a game comes along withs lots of badasses, and even more badass aliens It gets extremely rough and you'll get to see Kei .. well "perform" is the word I'm going to use /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

As I already stated, I was the biggest ADV hater of the 2 episode release, and now look at me. I got both artboxes and all singles and i'm VERY VERY GLAD that I did.

And if you can take your eyes off the tight black suits for a moment you'll endulge in some very interesting life lessons and idealism. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

chloes_fork

02-21-2006, 09:11 AM

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Balthier said:
And if you can take your eyes off the tight black suits for a moment you'll endulge in some very interesting life lessons and idealism. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Are you suggesting that the show's actual content doesn't exactly seem to be The World's priority? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

balthier2012

02-21-2006, 09:18 AM

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chloes_fork said:
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Balthier said:
And if you can take your eyes off the tight black suits for a moment you'll endulge in some very interesting life lessons and idealism. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Are you suggesting that the show's actual content doesn't exactly seem to be The World's priority? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Eh, yea I think so to say the least. Looks like we got a hentai addict straying into the anime section /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

theworld

02-21-2006, 10:15 AM

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Balthier said:
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chloes_fork said:
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Balthier said:
And if you can take your eyes off the tight black suits for a moment you'll endulge in some very interesting life lessons and idealism. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Are you suggesting that the show's actual content doesn't exactly seem to be The World's priority? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Eh, yea I think so to say the least. Looks like we got a hentai addict straying into the anime section /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Non, non. Not hentai: I just like seeing the boys in skin tight suits. Rawr. /images/graemlins/noseblef.gif

And yes, the morals in the show are interesting and the philosophical attitude so far has been intriguing, but I want more Kei-chan: with or without the suit /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Thank TOAST that the creators of the show decided to appeal to both guys and girls /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

Vicserr

02-21-2006, 11:09 AM

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The World said:
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Balthier said:
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chloes_fork said:
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Balthier said:
And if you can take your eyes off the tight black suits for a moment you'll endulge in some very interesting life lessons and idealism. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Are you suggesting that the show's actual content doesn't exactly seem to be The World's priority? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Eh, yea I think so to say the least. Looks like we got a hentai addict straying into the anime section /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Non, non. Not hentai: I just like seeing the boys in skin tight suits. Rawr. /images/graemlins/noseblef.gif

And yes, the morals in the show are interesting and the philosophical attitude so far has been intriguing, but I want more Kei-chan: with or without the suit /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Thank TOAST that the creators of the show decided to appeal to both guys and girls /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

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To each it's own, but I prefer the ladies in Skin-tight suits... specially Sei /images/graemlins/noseblef.gif (Should I dust off my Ladies of Gantz avatar series?.... /images/graemlins/wink.gif )

Itano is a director that likes to break form standard anime conventions as he did with Megazone 23 vol 2 he's not afraid of taking chances and takcle non-standard themes and techniques.. this series is worth it and unless you care of matching the box of season 2 with the thinpaked season 1, pick up 7 with box and 8-10 /images/graemlins/happy.gif

theworld

02-21-2006, 11:31 AM

Y'see, I don't have the funds to really do that right now. Otherwise, I would. IGPX came out today ^^ /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

balthier2012

02-21-2006, 01:42 PM

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The World said:
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Balthier said:
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chloes_fork said:
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Balthier said:
And if you can take your eyes off the tight black suits for a moment you'll endulge in some very interesting life lessons and idealism. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Are you suggesting that the show's actual content doesn't exactly seem to be The World's priority? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Eh, yea I think so to say the least. Looks like we got a hentai addict straying into the anime section /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Non, non. Not hentai: I just like seeing the boys in skin tight suits. Rawr. /images/graemlins/noseblef.gif

And yes, the morals in the show are interesting and the philosophical attitude so far has been intriguing, but I want more Kei-chan: with or without the suit /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Thank TOAST that the creators of the show decided to appeal to both guys and girls /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

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I know you will LOVE Vol. 7. I do but for the women. There's plenty for your Kei fix too /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

theworld

02-21-2006, 03:47 PM

I know! I saw the preview for the seventh DVD and blood splurt outta my nose ^^

Just....*erases the big-boobed lady*...There we go ^^

AbeChinchilla

02-21-2006, 03:55 PM

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The World said:
I know! I saw the preview for the seventh DVD and blood splurt outta my nose ^^

Just....*erases the big-boobed lady*...There we go ^^

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(Reads your profile again) Wait, I thought you liked bouncy boobs??

theworld

02-21-2006, 06:09 PM

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AbeChinchilla said:
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The World said:
I know! I saw the preview for the seventh DVD and blood splurt outta my nose ^^

Just....*erases the big-boobed lady*...There we go ^^

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(Reads your profile again) Wait, I thought you liked bouncy boobs??

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Non, non, non. I merely find them amusing. I don't find anything sexually stimulating in them, just amusement at how disproportionite they tend to be ^^

balthier2012

02-21-2006, 09:58 PM

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The World said:
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AbeChinchilla said:
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The World said:
I know! I saw the preview for the seventh DVD and blood splurt outta my nose ^^

Just....*erases the big-boobed lady*...There we go ^^

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(Reads your profile again) Wait, I thought you liked bouncy boobs??

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Non, non, non. I merely find them amusing. I don't find anything sexually stimulating in them, just amusement at how disproportionite they tend to be ^^

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Well I like them, and nobody is erasing the bouncy boobs off those hotties /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Lav2k4

02-21-2006, 10:01 PM

I thought Gantz manga was amazing..I watched the first episode in Fansubs (edited) back before adv licensed it.I havent watched it since because of the dissapointment...but now its on dvd (uncut) and the thinpak came out..Think I should give it another shot? Its fairly cheap /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

balthier2012

02-21-2006, 10:04 PM

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Lav2k4 said:
I thought Gantz manga was amazing..I watched the first episode in Fansubs (edited) back before adv licensed it.I havent watched it since because of the dissapointment...but now its on dvd (uncut) and the thinpak came out..Think I should give it another shot? Its fairly cheap /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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Maybe, alot of manga readers are usually disappointed by the anime version, not just this show but it seems most. And of my knowledge of the manga it goes on and on and sounds very interesting. I only wish they would make a second anime season to cover more of the manga material.

I guess it depends if you're more of a manga or anime person. I'm a big anime type so I would.

Lav2k4

02-21-2006, 10:07 PM

I watch more anime then read manga.

The only reason Im saying that I was turned off by it..was because the shitty edited fansubs.

Also I Dont like unfinish endings that remain in the manga version (Berserk,H&HC).

balthier2012

02-21-2006, 11:25 PM

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Lav2k4 said:
I watch more anime then read manga.

The only reason Im saying that I was turned off by it..was because the shitty edited fansubs.

Also I Dont like unfinish endings that remain in the manga version (Berserk,H&HC).

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Gantz leaves off at a point that can leave the viewer at limitless assumptionable endings. But I think it's a great show, and if you have the manga to fill in the gaps for you even better. You might as well get it. And then use your imagination to fuse it with the events in the manga towards the end.

Puppet Master

02-21-2006, 11:32 PM

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Balthier said:
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Lav2k4 said:
I watch more anime then read manga.

The only reason Im saying that I was turned off by it..was because the shitty edited fansubs.

Also I Dont like unfinish endings that remain in the manga version (Berserk,H&HC).

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Gantz leaves off at a point that can leave the viewer at limitless assumptionable endings. But I think it's a great show, and if you have the manga to fill in the gaps for you even better. You might as well get it. And then use your imagination to fuse it with the events in the manga towards the end.

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Im personally hoping to see the manga brought over specially now that I've seen the anime 2 times in four days. Truly an incredible series up there with the best in my eyes. Seeing an OST of it over here would be nice too. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

theworld

02-22-2006, 12:08 AM

*shrugs* To each their own. Now I want the second season set. ^^

More Kei-chan and Kato can only be a good thing.

AbeChinchilla

02-22-2006, 12:56 AM

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The World said:
*shrugs* To each their own. Now I want the second season set. ^^

More Kei-chan and Kato can only be a good thing.

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Or is it?

Don't wait. Buy the singles for vol. 7-10, NOW.

AbeChinchilla

02-22-2006, 12:56 AM

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Im personally hoping to see the manga brought over specially now that I've seen the anime 2 times in four days. Truly an incredible series up there with the best in my eyes. Seeing an OST of it over here would be nice too. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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As long as it's not being brought over only to be edited.

Puppet Master

02-22-2006, 01:06 AM

darkhunter

02-22-2006, 02:00 AM

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Puppet Master said:
Im personally hoping to see the manga brought over specially now that I've seen the anime 2 times in four days. Truly an incredible series up there with the best in my eyes. Seeing an OST of it over here would be nice too. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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As long as it's not being brought over only to be edited.

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If Viz do bring it over, they will not likely edit it. People are kind of jumpy with TenTen (CMX) and Shonen Jump title being edit, but none of Viz's mature title have ever been edit and some of them are pretty graphic.

Oh yeah, if you love gantz, please let Viz know that you want gantz by sending them an email/letter. Their parent company own the right to the series, and Viz get most of their title from their parent company. If they get enough request from fan, they might think bring it over.

theworld

02-22-2006, 08:15 AM

*chuckles* I can't get the singles right now. My money situation is way too tight.

AbeChinchilla

02-22-2006, 09:41 AM

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*chuckles* I can't get the singles right now. My money situation is way too tight.

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But...

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it!

AbeChinchilla

02-22-2006, 09:42 AM

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Puppet Master said:
Im personally hoping to see the manga brought over specially now that I've seen the anime 2 times in four days. Truly an incredible series up there with the best in my eyes. Seeing an OST of it over here would be nice too. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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As long as it's not being brought over only to be edited.

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If Viz do bring it over, they will not likely edit it. People are kind of jumpy with TenTen (CMX) and Shonen Jump title being edit, but none of Viz's mature title have ever been edit and some of them are pretty graphic.

Oh yeah, if you love gantz, please let Viz know that you want gantz by sending them an email/letter. Their parent company own the right to the series, and Viz get most of their title from their parent company. If they get enough request from fan, they might think bring it over.

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Will do.
I'll have my friends request it as well.

theworld

02-22-2006, 10:38 AM

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*chuckles* I can't get the singles right now. My money situation is way too tight.

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But...

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it!

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Not at the moment. While I like the show, it's not THAT high up on my priorities list of things to buy and what I have to save up right now. If anything, the ONLY on-going series I'll be buying based on my tight money situation would probably be Gankutsuou. Until then, I'll just dream of more skin-tight black suits ^^ *drools*

Trey-Trey

02-22-2006, 11:16 AM

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The World said:
*shrugs* To each their own. Now I want the second season set. ^^

More Kei-chan and Kato can only be a good thing.

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Or is it?

Don't wait. Buy the singles for vol. 7-10, NOW.

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Exactly. It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good.
(Based on what the rodent, Abe, says) /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

theworld

02-22-2006, 12:14 PM

I can wait. It's not such a godly show that I can't wait for the next installment.

AbeChinchilla

02-22-2006, 01:32 PM

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I can wait. It's not such a godly show that I can't wait for the next installment.

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Impossible!

I wish I could of been like that.
The waits between volume 7-10 were painful.
Too used to the monthly release of the first 6.

Puppet Master

02-22-2006, 02:01 PM

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I can wait. It's not such a godly show that I can't wait for the next installment.

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Impossible!

I wish I could of been like that.
The waits between volume 7-10 were painful.
Too used to the monthly release of the first 6.

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The wait would have been for a killer for me if I didn't buy Gantz in two days

theworld

02-22-2006, 03:18 PM

*smirks* The only shows in recent memory that aggravated me over the wait were Texhnolyze, Witch Hunter Robin, ROD the TV, and more recently Gankutsuou and Princess Tutu.

DKL

02-23-2006, 08:30 AM

Well, I'll jump in here and say that I liked it too...

Uh... I'll write about it in the next few days and just stick it in here...

ALSO, is there a second set coming out soon?

...

crap, it doesn't matter, I'm getting the rest today and tomorrow >_>

theworld

02-23-2006, 09:30 AM

There probably will be a second set, just who knows when.

AbeChinchilla

02-23-2006, 02:38 PM

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DKL said:
Well, I'll jump in here and say that I liked it too...

Uh... I'll write about it in the next few days and just stick it in here...

ALSO, is there a second set coming out soon?

...

crap, it doesn't matter, I'm getting the rest today and tomorrow >_>

[/ QUOTE ]

Buy the singles, NAO.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

chloes_fork

02-23-2006, 02:52 PM

Y'know, I used to feel like I was one of Gantz's few defenders, but between you and Balthier in this thread, I'm mainly thinking, "Jeez, it was good, but not THAT good." /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Trey-Trey

02-23-2006, 03:05 PM

[ QUOTE ]
AbeChinchilla said:
[ QUOTE ]
DKL said:
Well, I'll jump in here and say that I liked it too...

Uh... I'll write about it in the next few days and just stick it in here...

ALSO, is there a second set coming out soon?

...

crap, it doesn't matter, I'm getting the rest today and tomorrow >_>

[/ QUOTE ]

Buy the singles, NAO.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

[/ QUOTE ]

wait, wait. I am on the singles bandwagon too on 99% of all releases but this one is literally identical to the orginal release except for the box art (which I wasn't a fan of initially but now I prefer to the original). So I'm just curious to know why (in this case) are you pimping the singles?

AbeChinchilla

02-23-2006, 03:08 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Trey-Trey said:
wait, wait. I am on the singles bandwagon too on 99% of all releases but this one is literally identical to the orginal release except for the box art (which I wasn't a fan of initially but now I prefer to the original). So I'm just curious to know why (in this case) are you pimping the singles?

[/ QUOTE ]

No, I mean, why wait for the last 4 volumes?
When it's just FOUR volumes?! /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Buy the second season NAO is all I'm trying to say.
Because it's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

Trey-Trey

02-23-2006, 03:45 PM

[ QUOTE ]
AbeChinchilla said:
[ QUOTE ]
Trey-Trey said:
wait, wait. I am on the singles bandwagon too on 99% of all releases but this one is literally identical to the orginal release except for the box art (which I wasn't a fan of initially but now I prefer to the original). So I'm just curious to know why (in this case) are you pimping the singles?

[/ QUOTE ]

No, I mean, why wait for the last 4 volumes?
When it's just FOUR volumes?! /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Buy the second season NAO is all I'm trying to say.
Because it's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

[/ QUOTE ]

I can understand that. Usually I am like that too. I almost always spend more on the singles than the thinpaks mostly due to the extras and lost discs/art work, but this time the thinpak is identical to the original release AND I got it at half the price. Those other 4 discs can go right into the Netflix que. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

balthier2012

02-23-2006, 07:26 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Trey-Trey said:
[ QUOTE ]
AbeChinchilla said:
[ QUOTE ]
Trey-Trey said:
wait, wait. I am on the singles bandwagon too on 99% of all releases but this one is literally identical to the orginal release except for the box art (which I wasn't a fan of initially but now I prefer to the original). So I'm just curious to know why (in this case) are you pimping the singles?

[/ QUOTE ]

No, I mean, why wait for the last 4 volumes?
When it's just FOUR volumes?! /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Buy the second season NAO is all I'm trying to say.
Because it's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

[/ QUOTE ]

I can understand that. Usually I am like that too. I almost always spend more on the singles than the thinpaks mostly due to the extras and lost discs/art work, but this time the thinpak is identical to the original release AND I got it at half the price. Those other 4 discs can go right into the Netflix que. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Gantz in the netflix que... that's just wrong... you're more evil then GANTZ! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

balthier2012

02-23-2006, 07:32 PM

[ QUOTE ]
chloes_fork said:
Y'know, I used to feel like I was one of Gantz's few defenders, but between you and Balthier in this thread, I'm mainly thinking, "Jeez, it was good, but not THAT good." /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Funny isn't it. I was the #1 Gantz hater, I endlessly spouted: "DO NOT BUY THIS OR YOU ARE A WEAK STUPID RETARDED CONSUMER THAT IS SUPPORTING FAT GREEDY HOGS that rule from a dark throne room behind the castle of ADV. If you buy this show you're a lowly carnal being unable to control you're own watching desires, like a drug addict, you cannot get enough you're giving in to the ungodly sin of supporting a show that has been given a shit ass release!" /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

So... Take it from the #1 Gantz hater... I LOVE IT! And you will love it too /images/graemlins/devil.gif The show is beyond worth 2 episodes a disc. This show is welcome to take up an entire room in my (future) house if the discs took up that much space. Gantz cries out for your very soul to acknowledge and understand your own humanity and the limits of psychological and physical abilities stretched to the pinnocle of insanity!

As Abe says:

It's SOOOOOOOOOOO worth it /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

P.S.
Buy the artbox with v7 too!

AbeChinchilla

02-23-2006, 08:06 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Balthier said:
P.S.
Buy the artbox with v7 too!

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, get the artbox with volume 7.

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

Reinhardt

02-23-2006, 09:55 PM

[ QUOTE ]
AbeChinchilla said:
[ QUOTE ]
Balthier said:
P.S.
Buy the artbox with v7 too!

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, get the artbox with volume 7.

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Best Buy has volume 7 + box for really cheap too - was like $11 (I think volume 7 alone costs $19, lol). When I picked up the season 1 thinpack, I also grabbed this one. Now I just need the next TRSI ADV sale to come along to get volumes 8-10. Since I wont be getting volumes 8-10 immediately, would it be better to stop watching at volume 6 or 7?

Puppet Master

02-23-2006, 10:46 PM

6 because 7 is when the third game starts if im not mistaken.

theworld

02-24-2006, 09:54 AM

Trey-Trey

02-24-2006, 12:18 PM

[ QUOTE ]
AbeChinchilla said:
[ QUOTE ]
Balthier said:
P.S.
Buy the artbox with v7 too!

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, get the artbox with volume 7.

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

[/ QUOTE ]

With all this talk of thinpaks becoming more and more scarce (which is fine with me), I would still crap myself if I found out ADV wasn't doing one for the second season (or cut out all the extras) since they raised the episode count per volume. Because then my first thinpak buying experience would probably be my last. Like I said before this is one of the few times that would buy the thinpak because I don't feel like a show with only 26 episodes should take up the same amount of shelf space that a 52 episode show does (Gundam SEED). If a thinpak is released for the 2nd season both of the thinpaks would take up the space of about 6 DVDs. A nice size for a 26 episode series. And I compare it to singles because I'm a singles whore. Wheeee!

AbeChinchilla

02-24-2006, 12:35 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Trey-Trey said:
[ QUOTE ]
AbeChinchilla said:
[ QUOTE ]
Balthier said:
P.S.
Buy the artbox with v7 too!

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, get the artbox with volume 7.

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

[/ QUOTE ]

With all this talk of thinpaks becoming more and more scarce (which is fine with me), I would still crap myself if I found out ADV wasn't doing one for the second season (or cut out all the extras) since they raised the episode count per volume. Because then my first thinpak buying experience would probably be my last. Like I said before this is one of the few times that would buy the thinpak because I don't feel like a show with only 26 episodes should take up the same amount of shelf space that a 52 episode show does (Gundam SEED). If a thinpak is released for the 2nd season both of the thinpaks would take up the space of about 6 DVDs. A nice size for a 26 episode series. And I compare it to singles because I'm a singles whore. Wheeee!

[/ QUOTE ]

Trey-Trey, just buy the damn singles!! Rawr!!

theworld

02-24-2006, 03:17 PM

The devoutness towards this show is startling. I mean, come on...It's not like it's comparable to Utena.

Legion

02-24-2006, 03:34 PM

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The World said:
The devoutness towards this show is startling. I mean, come on...It's not like it's comparable to Utena.

[/ QUOTE ]
I would say not, since the two shows are so different and all..

AbeChinchilla

02-24-2006, 03:35 PM

[ QUOTE ]
The World said:
The devoutness towards this show is startling. I mean, come on...It's not like it's comparable to Utena.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, Utena is AWESOME. I love Utena.

But yeah... GANTZ is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

ohtori_akio

02-24-2006, 03:38 PM

[ QUOTE ]
The World said:
The devoutness towards this show is startling. I mean, come on...It's not like it's comparable to Utena.

[/ QUOTE ]

I just asked a question about that in another thread although I find Utena infinitely superior...

http://forums.animeondvd.com/remlinker.p...mp;Main=1282231 (http://forums.animeondvd.com/remlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=22479&F_Board=generalanim eforum&Thread=1282231&Main=1282231)

AbeChinchilla

02-24-2006, 06:01 PM

[ QUOTE ]
shounen kakumei akio said:
[ QUOTE ]
The World said:
The devoutness towards this show is startling. I mean, come on...It's not like it's comparable to Utena.

[/ QUOTE ]

I just asked a question about that in another thread although I find Utena infinitely superior...

http://forums.animeondvd.com/remlinker.p...mp;Main=1282231 (http://forums.animeondvd.com/remlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=22479&F_Board=generalanim eforum&Thread=1282231&Main=1282231)

[/ QUOTE ]

... What the hell kind of question is that?

ohtori_akio

02-24-2006, 06:30 PM

I thought it would be interesting to have a game where one has to explain why a title that is typically inferior or disregarded in the big scheme of things is better than one that has proven its worth or is incredibly popular. Just a devil's advocate sort of game....

scorsesefan

02-24-2006, 08:46 PM

Ok, I just wanted to get in here and say for someone on a budget would it make more sense to wait until ADV thinpacks the second season to get Gantz?

I am anal, and I don't like the idea of having half of a show thinpacked and half of it in single cases. But, on the other hand, the second season, which is four volumes, will have to be cheaper in a thinpack box rather than buying all four singles.

But, I also need instant gratification. So if I buy season one now, I'm going to have to get the rest to see it all. Damn it, what should I do???? /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

Puppet Master

02-24-2006, 09:24 PM

[ QUOTE ]
SkullLeaderOne said:
Ok, I just wanted to get in here and say for someone on a budget would it make more sense to wait until ADV thinpacks the second season to get Gantz?

I am anal, and I don't like the idea of having half of a show thinpacked and half of it in single cases. But, on the other hand, the second season, which is four volumes, will have to be cheaper in a thinpack box rather than buying all four singles.

But, I also need instant gratification. So if I buy season one now, I'm going to have to get the rest to see it all. Damn it, what should I do???? /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Three words BUY IT NOW!

balthier2012

02-24-2006, 09:47 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Puppet Master said:
[ QUOTE ]
SkullLeaderOne said:
Ok, I just wanted to get in here and say for someone on a budget would it make more sense to wait until ADV thinpacks the second season to get Gantz?

I am anal, and I don't like the idea of having half of a show thinpacked and half of it in single cases. But, on the other hand, the second season, which is four volumes, will have to be cheaper in a thinpack box rather than buying all four singles.

But, I also need instant gratification. So if I buy season one now, I'm going to have to get the rest to see it all. Damn it, what should I do???? /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Three words BUY IT NOW!

[/ QUOTE ]

More then three words. BUY IT NOW OR SUFFER AGONIZING TORMENT OF BEING IGNORANT OF THE GREATNESS THAT IS GANTZ!! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Seriously if you don't want season 1 thinpak and season 2 singles, buy all the fuckin singles. It's well worth it. You loved Berserk, you will shit yourself over the intensity of this kickass show. You'll be hooked, no cocaine / meth addict has shit on someone who loves their GANTZ!

I don't see a Gantz season 2 thinpak for a good while, you'll be putting the vitality of your very soul on hold until then. Not worth it. Buy the fuckers! 2 episodes a disc is too much for any normal human being to handle anyways. Maybe they didn't do it to make more money, but because they feared more then 2 episodes was too much for any viewer to withstand. (not me I marathoned the bitch). And you will to if ya got any balls /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

ohtori_akio

02-24-2006, 09:56 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Balthier said:
You loved Berserk, you will shit yourself over the intensity of this kickass show. You'll be hooked, no cocaine / meth addict has shit on someone who loves their GANTZ!

[/ QUOTE ]

I disagree. I absolutely ADORE Berserk (here (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animeatt&aid=98#3440)) and I don't think GANTZ comes even close to the class or cleverness of Berserk. Sure they have the same amount of gore but Berserk has interesting characters not irritating ones. Berserk has a plot that gets built upon, GANTZ just burns bridges whenever it could go somewhere like killing off the guy who was close to getting 100 points, killing the whole cast, brings in characters for later games that are just stereotypes of ones from previous games etc...

I would say to watch GANTZ at your own risk. Don't expect "Berserkness" in it though coz you'll think it's shitass!

AbeChinchilla

02-24-2006, 10:42 PM

scorsesefan

02-24-2006, 10:54 PM

I don't think that I would ever go into any anime expecting Berserk. It stands alone in my mind as the the ultimate, nay, perfect combination of violence, sex, and amazingly complex storytelling and characterization ever. Nothing can or will ever be on an even playing field with Berserk. At least not in the heart and soul of this anime nerd.

That being said, I think I'm just gonna go ahead and buy the Season 1 thinpack and Season 2 in singles when I get a little more money tucked away. It's a pretty big purchase all in all, but I want to be able to watch it in it's entirety with no wait whatsoever. Thanks for the opinions guys.

ohtori_akio

02-24-2006, 11:23 PM

If those are the things you liked about Berserk, check out X TV as well...

scorsesefan

02-25-2006, 05:57 AM

X TV has been on my radar for quite some time. The whole apocalypse is coming thing and two opposing forces calling themselves "Dragons" gives me a boner.

I will definitely have to purchase that one within the near future. Looks like Gantz, Giant Robo, X TV, and Irresponsible Captain Tylor are the DVDs I'll be getting in the next month or so. I can't wait to watch them all!

theworld

02-25-2006, 08:09 AM

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shounen kakumei akio said:
If those are the things you liked about Berserk, check out X TV as well...

[/ QUOTE ]
*chuckles at your signature* Nice. But I totally agree with you on Berserk and Utena. Those two shows are just so well done, it's like they're in a different league far beyond Gantz.

AbeChinchilla

02-25-2006, 09:12 AM

[ QUOTE ]
The World said:
[ QUOTE ]
shounen kakumei akio said:
If those are the things you liked about Berserk, check out X TV as well...

[/ QUOTE ]
*chuckles at your signature* Nice. But I totally agree with you on Berserk and Utena. Those two shows are just so well done, it's like they're in a different league far beyond Gantz.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, so let's NOT compare GANTZ to the great Utena and go on, yes?

Because the argument is SOOOOOOOOOO not worth it.

theworld

02-25-2006, 09:28 AM

[ QUOTE ]
AbeChinchilla said:
[ QUOTE ]
The World said:
[ QUOTE ]
shounen kakumei akio said:
If those are the things you liked about Berserk, check out X TV as well...

[/ QUOTE ]
*chuckles at your signature* Nice. But I totally agree with you on Berserk and Utena. Those two shows are just so well done, it's like they're in a different league far beyond Gantz.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, so let's NOT compare GANTZ to the great Utena and go on, yes?

Because the argument is SOOOOOOOOOO not worth it.

[/ QUOTE ]
Agreed, but is there a reason why you keep saying "SOOOOOOO"?

AbeChinchilla

02-25-2006, 10:26 AM

[ QUOTE ]
The World said:
[ QUOTE ]
AbeChinchilla said:
[ QUOTE ]
The World said:
[ QUOTE ]
shounen kakumei akio said:
If those are the things you liked about Berserk, check out X TV as well...

[/ QUOTE ]
*chuckles at your signature* Nice. But I totally agree with you on Berserk and Utena. Those two shows are just so well done, it's like they're in a different league far beyond Gantz.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, so let's NOT compare GANTZ to the great Utena and go on, yes?

Because the argument is SOOOOOOOOOO not worth it.

[/ QUOTE ]
Agreed, but is there a reason why you keep saying "SOOOOOOO"?

[/ QUOTE ]

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOO worth the trouble of adding a couple of o's.

balthier2012

02-25-2006, 11:34 AM

[ QUOTE ]
SkullLeaderOne said:

I will definitely have to purchase that one within the near future. Looks like Gantz, Giant Robo, X TV, and Irresponsible Captain Tylor are the DVDs I'll be getting in the next month or so. I can't wait to watch them all!

[/ QUOTE ]

Great you will definitly enjoy Gantz. And earlier I didn't intend to say that Gantz was exactly like Berserk, but the intensity and kickass-ness was beyond it. Although Berserk's story is better IMO. Berserk is higher on my favorite list then Gantz but Gantz had me sprinting to the bookshelf 4 feet away and using my samurai sword to open the plastic cuz I didn't want to go to the kitchen to get a small knife cuz the additional 10 second wait was UNBEARABLE and then swiftly slamming it into the DVD player and drooling as the menu screen appeared. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif While Berserk I was hooked but not in agonizing wait each disc change.

Puppet Master

02-25-2006, 02:47 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Balthier said:
[ QUOTE ]
SkullLeaderOne said:

I will definitely have to purchase that one within the near future. Looks like Gantz, Giant Robo, X TV, and Irresponsible Captain Tylor are the DVDs I'll be getting in the next month or so. I can't wait to watch them all!

[/ QUOTE ]

Great you will definitly enjoy Gantz. And earlier I didn't intend to say that Gantz was exactly like Berserk, but the intensity and kickass-ness was beyond it. Although Berserk's story is better IMO. Berserk is higher on my favorite list then Gantz but Gantz had me sprinting to the bookshelf 4 feet away and using my samurai sword to open the plastic cuz I didn't want to go to the kitchen to get a small knife cuz the additional 10 second wait was UNBEARABLE and then swiftly slamming it into the DVD player and drooling as the menu screen appeared. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif While Berserk I was hooked but not in agonizing wait each disc change.

[/ QUOTE ]

You are seriously disturbed you know that. But that's why I keep my key chain handy since it has a key that's perfect for opening the plastic on DVD cases.

AbeChinchilla

02-25-2006, 05:49 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Puppet Master said:
[ QUOTE ]
Balthier said:
[ QUOTE ]
SkullLeaderOne said:

I will definitely have to purchase that one within the near future. Looks like Gantz, Giant Robo, X TV, and Irresponsible Captain Tylor are the DVDs I'll be getting in the next month or so. I can't wait to watch them all!

[/ QUOTE ]

Great you will definitly enjoy Gantz. And earlier I didn't intend to say that Gantz was exactly like Berserk, but the intensity and kickass-ness was beyond it. Although Berserk's story is better IMO. Berserk is higher on my favorite list then Gantz but Gantz had me sprinting to the bookshelf 4 feet away and using my samurai sword to open the plastic cuz I didn't want to go to the kitchen to get a small knife cuz the additional 10 second wait was UNBEARABLE and then swiftly slamming it into the DVD player and drooling as the menu screen appeared. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif While Berserk I was hooked but not in agonizing wait each disc change.

[/ QUOTE ]

You are seriously disturbed you know that. But that's why I keep my key chain handy since it has a key that's perfect for opening the plastic on DVD cases.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is why I don't trim my nails... and when I do (when they get all... flimsy) I sharpen em for this purpose.

One shred from my fingernail and voila!

balthier2012

02-25-2006, 09:57 PM

[ QUOTE ]
AbeChinchilla said:
[ QUOTE ]
Puppet Master said:
[ QUOTE ]
Balthier said:
[ QUOTE ]
SkullLeaderOne said:

I will definitely have to purchase that one within the near future. Looks like Gantz, Giant Robo, X TV, and Irresponsible Captain Tylor are the DVDs I'll be getting in the next month or so. I can't wait to watch them all!

[/ QUOTE ]

Great you will definitly enjoy Gantz. And earlier I didn't intend to say that Gantz was exactly like Berserk, but the intensity and kickass-ness was beyond it. Although Berserk's story is better IMO. Berserk is higher on my favorite list then Gantz but Gantz had me sprinting to the bookshelf 4 feet away and using my samurai sword to open the plastic cuz I didn't want to go to the kitchen to get a small knife cuz the additional 10 second wait was UNBEARABLE and then swiftly slamming it into the DVD player and drooling as the menu screen appeared. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif While Berserk I was hooked but not in agonizing wait each disc change.

[/ QUOTE ]

You are seriously disturbed you know that. But that's why I keep my key chain handy since it has a key that's perfect for opening the plastic on DVD cases.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is why I don't trim my nails... and when I do (when they get all... flimsy) I sharpen em for this purpose.

One shred from my fingernail and voila!

[/ QUOTE ]

Well I guess the real question is: who's more disturbing? A simple keychain attached to your clothing at all times or specially grown and sharpened finger nails for anime opening emergencies! Don't get me wrong though, the samurai sword works fine it's just hard to not have blood dripping afterwards /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

DKL

02-26-2006, 12:58 AM

... Ah, hell, this post sucks, I got really tired of typing... anyway, I'll just post it anyway:

Gantz Redux

Okay, letâ€™s look back for a moment on my initial impression of the showâ€¦ I said that I didnâ€™t like it on the basis of how weak the atmosphere was given that it feels like everything is setup to be unintentionally funny. Iâ€™m not sure what happened, but it eventually dawned on me that I was taking the wrong approach in order to enjoy the series; I initially took it in under the impression that it was supposed to be serious but came off as satireâ€¦ when actually, it is satireâ€¦ and yes, I have checked the definition of satire to make sureâ€¦ I think Iâ€™ll stick with this perspective given that itâ€™s the only way for me to enjoy the show.

Bottom-line, while this isnâ€™t the next great human drama or whatever, it is really entertaining when I just sit back and have fun with all the sex and violence (and swearing)â€¦ I mean, Kishimotoâ€™s rack is HUGE! Yeah! (erâ€¦ to the point where it actually is sexy and not scaryâ€¦ for me, anyway)

First Season!

So, what is the show trying to say?

There are multiple messages of people being desensitized to violence, murder, etc. But for me, something else really stood out:

People sometimes tend to devote an unnecessary amount of thought or time into making a decision about something, as opposed to actually doing something; Gantz is the exaggerated version of this.

Sometimes, people even have a habit of allaying their attention to other things that contributes to wasting time that wouldâ€™ve been spent on actually doing something (Kei is actually very susceptible to this).

Errâ€¦ the last two statements were made in the context of my interpretation, not society in general or whatever.

Going back on trackâ€¦ For example, when that bum fell onto the train tracks during the 1st episode, everyone spent a lot of time rationalizing whether or not to help the guy out when it actually just comes down to two choicesâ€¦ itâ€™s either you help him out, or you donâ€™t. Hell, even the people who didnâ€™t want to participate in the games later on took a while to decide whether they were going to leave or not.

Sure, you can go on with the whole â€œthinking is a complex process,â€? but the circumstances in the show donâ€™t give people enough time to think things out in detail like thisâ€¦ and no, I donâ€™t think it was a good way to build up tension either as it comes off as a little too forced in order to make you go: â€œdammit, do something already!â€? (in fact, tension was almost nonexistent for me during the entire seriesâ€¦ except for some parts).

Like that one thing:

It mustâ€™ve taken several minutes for the characters to decide whether or not to help out that Nishi dude (sp?) during the second game. I also vaguely remember half-an-episode being devoted to whether Kei was going to kill that big onion thing or not, but then, that was one of the more serious moments. 

Althoughâ€¦ it might feel like everyone is taking a long time to decide on things just because of director Itanoâ€™s problems (or whoever is responsible) with the pacing or whatever (Iâ€™m pretty sure that the matches are actually longer than their time limits). But while he couldâ€™ve thought of a better way to compress all this, itâ€™s all arguably very detailed and organized. Iâ€™m actually really impressed with how fleshed out and coordinated everyoneâ€™s thought process is (â€œdid somebody call the station agent?â€?) and that Itano doesnâ€™t end up going around in circles treading the same path over and over again. To simplify: itâ€™s unnecessarily long, but systematic (in a coordination sense) and entertaining.

The first season had a really cool ending. Not only that, Kei really breaks away from the convention mentioned above the moment he just ups and makes a decision on impulse; it was a lot of fun.

Second Season!

Okay, letâ€™s see where it goes now?

â€¦ Damn! What the hell was that? (You should know what Iâ€™m talking about)

Okay, onto the next game:

It was going quite well for a while, but then it kind of didnâ€™t click with meâ€¦ I canâ€™t move on any further without spoiler text though, so:

Okay, apparently sex is decided on impulse too. (har har har)

But yeah, I was just thinking that they needed more sex and I totally got my wish.

Okay.

The beginning of the third game where Kato was being the man was really cool and the battle was initially fun to watch; I really liked the part where the statue thingy used that stick of his to avoid getting shot, I laughed my ass off. And I loved the â€œrandom (sort of) people walking into the templeâ€? scenes. They were so EXCELLENT.

Anyway, the tone got different as it went along though and went all dead-seriousâ€¦ I wasnâ€™t too into this given that I had a hard time taking the show seriously to begin with. And when they started killing off the characters, it got really lame. Not only that, but Kishimoto had one of the worst death scenes everâ€¦ it couldâ€™ve at least been coordinated differently and ended up with the same result, but how it happened was totally out there. I mean, if she was moving so fast, why didnâ€™t she just push Kato out of the way? Iâ€™m not saying that she wouldâ€™ve lived, but damn, it wouldâ€™ve made more sense. Or maybe I missed some important detail here (aside from the symbolic characterization approach they were taking), but the execution is just totally off. Anyway, it got lame.

Okay, hereâ€™s the thing, even with all my bitching and while I think they shouldâ€™ve just made a conventional formula of â€œeveryone but the main characters should die,â€? I have to admit that the conflict they setup for the very last game was pretty great.. Sure, they took the really artificial-feeling buildup to get there psychologically, but I really liked how the last game went; I was totally surprised when Kei ended up being the last â€œtargetâ€? (but not the boss).

I think the pacing got a little better too since, while the thought-process was still quite detailed, everything felt like it was going at a faster pace.

So yeah, it was all really, really good (although, I was taken by surprised when they mentioned Iraq).

What did this last game say? Pretty simple: humans are the worst (hooray for us). In fact, when you think about it, the aliens in the series were sort of provoked most of the time; they werenâ€™t really hurting anyone by just being there. They were even wondering what the hell humans were doing in their side of reality.

I think the â€œhumans are the worstâ€? thing was sort of offset by some of the characters demonstrating we can be both, butâ€¦ you know, itâ€™s still kinda whack (â€œus,â€? I mean).

The ending was kind of weird though. But then, I was quite exhausted by the time I got to it and only walked away with a vague and iffy interpretation of it (I imagine that it would piss a lot of people off though).

So, what do I think happened?

It seems that this last battle had people from the first episode in it. It was (some of) those people that didnâ€™t really do anything even though they were there when Kei â€œdied.â€? So anyway, after all that stuff about â€œmaking the right choiceâ€? and how Kei sends Hajime toâ€¦ wherever the hell he goes when heâ€™s transported by that thingy (which is â€œthe right choice,â€? but you canâ€™t say that for sureâ€¦ for all we know, he couldâ€™ve just delegated the deed of killing the dude to someone else), Mika dies too and it seems that theyâ€™re going to take the abstract approach with the ending where Kei is back on the train tracks.

Soâ€¦ to summarize, all those people that helped him during the last battle sort of made up for what they did (or more precisely, what they didnâ€™t do) earlier. And thereâ€™s some abstract message about being able to go out there in the world on your own, which is sort of reinforced by that weird old lady.

Anyway, I donâ€™t really get it. All I seem to have come up with conclusively is that it seems that Kei â€œwonâ€? against Gantz since no one was there when that train thingy came by (that or it hit him so fast that it dragged all the crap with it). But yeah, it was fairly abrupt and even harder to take in given that I was exhausted by all the energy being flung around prior to this.

So, whatâ€™s my general overview of the series?

-I had a lot of fun since I decided to give it a chance and change my perspective. One could say that me having fun gets Itanoâ€™s (or whoeverâ€™s) message about being desensitized to violence through, but then, it feels like it was all set up this way to force me to fall into the messageâ€™s mindset. Whatever. But then, some people might actually have been offended by the show, so who knows.

-Looking at the production, Iâ€™d have to say that itâ€™s pretty weak here and there; Iâ€™m not a big fan of this showâ€™s animation, it even looks totally whack sometimes. Gonzo has probably made better-looking shows than this.

-Out of all the alien designs, Iâ€™d have to say that Suzuki was my favorite since it was sort of creepyâ€¦ I mean, with the voice and all.

-Out of all the characters that appeared, there are really only two that I genuinely did like. First being Kato, the other being:

Furuta, the bookstore owner dudeâ€¦ despite his goofy appearance, Iâ€™d have to say that heâ€™s a real man.

-The show wins extra points with me because of the Fist of the North Star references: Watatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatata-ATA!!!

-The show has a lot of glaring problemsâ€¦ I mean, I sort of feel like there are some logical inconsistenciesâ€¦ (it could just be me though), but again, I had a ton of fun watching everybody screw around the way they do. I think they call that a guilty pleasure or something, pretty sweet.

â€¦ man, that all got incoherent in the end, but whatever. Iâ€™m tired.

Okay, onto one of the REAL reasons why I actually decided to give the series another chanceâ€¦ its dub production (which will be stuffed into the English track forum at AoD).

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Yeah, I know... it turns into rambling, but whatever, feel free to comment...

ohtori_akio

02-26-2006, 01:13 AM

You've made some good points about the show. I do agree that pacing is the biggest problem of them all.
I liked your interpretation of what the director was trying to say but I find that his execution infuriated me too much to read all that into it. It is one anime I can easily dismiss because it is just not all that rewarding to watch. I also disliked the exploitative nature of some situations and to me they just felt like they were done for shock value...

DKL

02-26-2006, 01:18 AM

Yeah, he did try to get that "shock" value pretty hard... that's why I didn't like it at first since it was pretty forced *I mean... I wasn't shocked at all, I was more shocked at how lame the animation was*

But then I thought to myself:

"Just have fun with it" and it turned out just fine... like... don't take it too seriously and it'll actually be entertaining

I have to say though that even with that logic... I did get really drawn into the last game... can't deny that

Captain Impulse

02-26-2006, 01:18 AM

I thought the whole point of the show WAS shock value?

DKL

02-26-2006, 01:20 AM

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I thought the whole point of the show WAS shock value?

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I know... looking at the series like that, it's a pretty big failure then (as I mentioned above)

... you could call me fickle, but I really don't regret changing my approach...

and besides, the dub is great!

...

>_>

Captain Impulse

02-26-2006, 02:04 AM

Sometimes the dub can save a show that otherwise is mediocre at best. Gantz was that way for me...the English version added a bit of color to it that made it enjoyable instead of being merely tolerable. It's like getting a second chance in a way. Personally I thought Project ARMS (a series I loved in English) was less interesting in the original Japanese. Same deal for me with Saiyuki (which meant it REALLY hurt when the series "changed hands" (if you will) to Geneon for latter seasons. New VA's ruined it for me. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

I might be asking for trouble by saying this (especially considering the recent debacle with Ghost Stories), but I don't mind interjecting a little humor into a dub to spice things up. Most of the people who have problems with dubs won't listen to them anyway, so I don't quite comprehend why there's such a tremendous division between the two sides. If I dislike a dub, I'll switch to Japanese, and vice-versa.

Hmm...that's starting to sound too much like a sub/dub war bait. I'll quit while I'm ahead.

Edit: Self-edited to remove something that might have inadvertently sparked a sub/dub war.

theworld

02-26-2006, 07:47 AM

That guy hit the nail in the head about Gantz. I'd say another major problem the show had besides the ridiculously long period of waiting the characters did was also how amazingly stupid they were at many parts in the games.

AbeChinchilla

02-26-2006, 07:58 AM

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That guy hit the nail in the head about Gantz. I'd say another major problem the show had besides the ridiculously long period of waiting the characters did was also how amazingly stupid they were at many parts in the games.

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They're not that stupid.
Imagine yourself in that position.

This ain't no other anime where the character just does something because the viewers expect it to be done that way.

balthier2012

02-26-2006, 10:17 AM

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That guy hit the nail in the head about Gantz. I'd say another major problem the show had besides the ridiculously long period of waiting the characters did was also how amazingly stupid they were at many parts in the games.

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Well, IMO people are amazingly stupid in real life and that's the realistic interpretation of how they would react. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

theworld

02-26-2006, 03:44 PM

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That guy hit the nail in the head about Gantz. I'd say another major problem the show had besides the ridiculously long period of waiting the characters did was also how amazingly stupid they were at many parts in the games.

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Well, IMO people are amazingly stupid in real life and that's the realistic interpretation of how they would react. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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True, but there were some situations where the way the characters acted was obscenely idiotic.

ohtori_akio

02-26-2006, 03:50 PM

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Well, IMO people are amazingly stupid in real life and that's the realistic interpretation of how they would react. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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I don't agree. They overdramatised that completely, sure we would all wonder what to do but we wouldn't take so long coming up with a spontaneous answer or we would be running away from it pretty much straight away....

AbeChinchilla

02-26-2006, 04:46 PM

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The World said:
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Balthier said:
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The World said:
That guy hit the nail in the head about Gantz. I'd say another major problem the show had besides the ridiculously long period of waiting the characters did was also how amazingly stupid they were at many parts in the games.

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Well, IMO people are amazingly stupid in real life and that's the realistic interpretation of how they would react. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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True, but there were some situations where the way the characters acted was obscenely idiotic.

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When you're facing death itself, what can you do?!

theworld

02-26-2006, 07:44 PM

If I were facing death I wouldn't be standing there for almost minutes on end wondering what I would do. I mean, for god's sake... The granny in the second game tells her grandson to run and he up and decides to go back and die with her. Honestly, they could have done some interesting character development with him if he had survived that game, but alas...Not to mention some of the characters taking far too long to shoot or DO much of anything.

balthier2012

02-26-2006, 08:30 PM

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Well, IMO people are amazingly stupid in real life and that's the realistic interpretation of how they would react. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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I don't agree. They overdramatised that completely, sure we would all wonder what to do but we wouldn't take so long coming up with a spontaneous answer or we would be running away from it pretty much straight away....

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Well you forget something. The people in Gantz don't watch anime, so ofcourse they would be extra obscenely idiotic. While someone who does watch anime has exposted their mind to limitless circumstances and limitless choices and consequences. So in other words, ofcourse the granny was dumb and her grandson ... well he was brave enough to go back to her but he's a child what do you expect. I think it's realistic. It may be annoying that the people did it over and over, but still realistic. He could have been less realistic and made better entertainment for those who don't like realism.

And I don't want to hear the idea of Gantz is an unrealistic show anyways, sure the sci-fi aspect maybe, but the psychology was fully intended to be as close to realism as possible. To me the show was about when shit happens, humanity reverts to it's carnal nature, some were conceited and full of themselves, some let fear get to them and did somethin dum, and some forced others into taking the heat for them. I guess a couple more people could have fled the scene immediately, but that's about it IMO.

AbeChinchilla

02-26-2006, 09:10 PM

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The World said:
If I were facing death I wouldn't be standing there for almost minutes on end wondering what I would do. I mean, for god's sake... The granny in the second game tells her grandson to run and he up and decides to go back and die with her. Honestly, they could have done some interesting character development with him if he had survived that game, but alas...Not to mention some of the characters taking far too long to shoot or DO much of anything. 

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I agree with you there, but at least we didn't have to hear him cry anymore... well except for the recap in the next episode.

DKL

02-26-2006, 09:35 PM

Oh yeah, that was great:

 "Hey grandma! Will you gag that grandkid of yours already!?...

WHAT? We were all thinking it!" /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Err... that was done from memory, not sure if it went exactly like that >_>

theworld

02-26-2006, 10:54 PM

It's not so much the idiocy of the characters as it is Gonzo stretching certain scenes a little too long for the tension or emotional content to really take effect. Not to mention that Gonzo was REALLY half-assed about the animation quality of this show. I mean, good lord...Kiddy Grade and Gankutusou run circles around this poor thing.

Captain Impulse

02-26-2006, 11:13 PM

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The World said:
It's not so much the idiocy of the characters as it is Gonzo stretching certain scenes a little too long for the tension or emotional content to really take effect. Not to mention that Gonzo was REALLY half-assed about the animation quality of this show. I mean, good lord...Kiddy Grade and Gankutusou run circles around this poor thing.

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True. Gonzo seems to have this rep for producing shows with high-quality animation, and for the most part this is correct. However, Gantz and a few others I can think of really miss the mark. Inconsistency seems to be a better trademark for them than anything.

Puppet Master

02-26-2006, 11:56 PM

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AbeChinchilla said:
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The World said:
If I were facing death I wouldn't be standing there for almost minutes on end wondering what I would do. I mean, for god's sake... The granny in the second game tells her grandson to run and he up and decides to go back and die with her. Honestly, they could have done some interesting character development with him if he had survived that game, but alas...Not to mention some of the characters taking far too long to shoot or DO much of anything. 

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I agree with you there, but at least we didn't have to hear him cry anymore... well except for the recap in the next episode.

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I agree I honestly couldn't wait to see the kid and his Grandma go truly annoying. People are stupid when consumed by fear they lose their head that's what it comes down too.

theworld

02-27-2006, 08:18 AM

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The World said:
It's not so much the idiocy of the characters as it is Gonzo stretching certain scenes a little too long for the tension or emotional content to really take effect. Not to mention that Gonzo was REALLY half-assed about the animation quality of this show. I mean, good lord...Kiddy Grade and Gankutusou run circles around this poor thing.

[/ QUOTE ]

True. Gonzo seems to have this rep for producing shows with high-quality animation, and for the most part this is correct. However, Gantz and a few others I can think of really miss the mark. Inconsistency seems to be a better trademark for them than anything.

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Right you are.

AbeChinchilla

02-27-2006, 03:18 PM

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The World said:
It's not so much the idiocy of the characters as it is Gonzo stretching certain scenes a little too long for the tension or emotional content to really take effect. Not to mention that Gonzo was REALLY half-assed about the animation quality of this show. I mean, good lord...Kiddy Grade and Gankutusou run circles around this poor thing.

[/ QUOTE ]

True. Gonzo seems to have this rep for producing shows with high-quality animation, and for the most part this is correct. However, Gantz and a few others I can think of really miss the mark. Inconsistency seems to be a better trademark for them than anything.

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Right you are.

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Er... I only thought 3 or 4 episodes of GANTZ looked like utter crap.

I think... episode 5... epiosde 11 and... episode 22.

I thought the entire series, otherwise, had top-notch animation.

Captain Impulse

02-27-2006, 08:47 PM

Even a series like Vandread (one of my fav's) shows some serious Gonzo inconsistency. The early CG for the space battles looks like utter crap...like something you'd see on Reboot or Shadow Warriors. Later on in the series this improved notably, even to the point of having some strikingly beautiful and intriguing images in the final episodes of Second Stage. I haven't enjoyed space battles that much since the early days of watching Robotech on TV.

scorsesefan

02-28-2006, 05:33 AM

Inconsistency seems to be a problem that mars all anime televisions series I've seen so far. But most of the studios, including Gonzo, put the money where it needs to be; the more important battles/episodes to the story. Isn't inconsistent animation just the nature of the beast these days? Bones is the only studio I can think of that shocks me when not a single episode looks worse than all the others.

Then again, I haven't seen as many anime as you guys have. Yet, that is. Perhaps until then I should keep my mouth shut?

Captain Impulse

02-28-2006, 05:40 AM

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Inconsistency seems to be a problem that mars all anime televisions series I've seen so far. But most of the studios, including Gonzo, put the money where it needs to be; the more important battles/episodes to the story. Isn't inconsistent animation just the nature of the beast these days? Bones is the only studio I can think of that shocks me when not a single episode looks worse than all the others.

Then again, I haven't seen as many anime as you guys have. Yet, that is. Perhaps until then I should keep my mouth shut?

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Nah, I think your observations are quite accurate. Most shows see a significant drop in animation quality usually around the mid-point in the series (that is unless they've got a "money shot" planned around that time). Samurai 7 is a glaring example of blowing their budget on big effects early on, and letting later episodes take the brunt of it. Of course, most shows save a lot of capital for the last few episodes to go out with a bang as well, so to me it sounds like a case of mis-managing your budget. I'd rather have consistent quality throughout than a couple of "money shots", even if they are impressive.

Trey-Trey

02-28-2006, 07:32 AM

I love GONZO and I love BONES but they're literally night and day. I think it's an issue of quantity over quality. GONZO cranks out shows left and right and many of the foregrounds and backgrounds just don't mesh well. It looks too computerized and bright half of the time. Whereas BONES may only do one or two shows a year but their animation is very seamless and has a more natural look. It's hard to explain but most of you may understand what I mean.

Captain Impulse

02-28-2006, 07:44 AM

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I love GONZO and I love BONES but they're literally night and day. I think it's an issue of quantity over quality. GONZO cranks out shows left and right and many of the foregrounds and backgrounds just don't mesh well. It looks too computerized and bright half of the time. Whereas BONES may only do one or two shows a year but their animation is very seamless and has a more natural look. It's hard to explain but most of you may understand what I mean.

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Word.

Series such as Wolf's Rain and Mars Daybreak are a testament to how good a series can look throughout it's entire run. Some moments may still be better than others, but you won't see the animation quality lag as significantly as other companies' shows. At least not in my experience.

theworld

02-28-2006, 09:13 AM

Lav2k4

02-28-2006, 10:14 PM

does anyone know if Gonzo has more plans with Gantz? Cause Im reading the manga now and its way longer then expected.

or are they gonna pull a berserk move and have no plans whatso ever.

Puppet Master

02-28-2006, 11:27 PM

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does anyone know if Gonzo has more plans with Gantz? Cause Im reading the manga now and its way longer then expected.

or are they gonna pull a berserk move and have no plans whatso ever.

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Based on the ending probaly Berserk move

theworld

03-01-2006, 08:11 PM

I do know that just as many American and Japanese fans yearn for more Berserk and Fruits Basket...

Puppet Master

03-01-2006, 08:18 PM

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I do know that just as many American and Japanese fans yearn for more Berserk and Fruits Basket...

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Who wouldn't want to see more Berserk!? /images/graemlins/devil.gif

Captain Impulse

03-01-2006, 08:26 PM

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I do know that just as many American and Japanese fans yearn for more Berserk and Fruits Basket...

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Who wouldn't want to see more Berserk!? /images/graemlins/devil.gif

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Crazy people.

Puppet Master

03-01-2006, 08:54 PM

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I do know that just as many American and Japanese fans yearn for more Berserk and Fruits Basket...

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Who wouldn't want to see more Berserk!? /images/graemlins/devil.gif

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Crazy people.

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Nah the crazy people are the ones who enjoy the medevil blood and violence that is Berserk. Or maybe im the only one /images/graemlins/devil.gif /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Captain Impulse

03-01-2006, 08:56 PM

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Who wouldn't want to see more Berserk!? /images/graemlins/devil.gif

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Crazy people.

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Nah the crazy people are the ones who enjoy the medevil blood and violence that is Berserk. Or maybe im the only one /images/graemlins/devil.gif /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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Don't confuse crazy with sadistic. /images/graemlins/devil.gif

Puppet Master

03-01-2006, 09:12 PM

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Who wouldn't want to see more Berserk!? /images/graemlins/devil.gif

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Crazy people.

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Nah the crazy people are the ones who enjoy the medevil blood and violence that is Berserk. Or maybe im the only one /images/graemlins/devil.gif /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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Don't confuse crazy with sadistic. /images/graemlins/devil.gif

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My bad I forgot that my terminology was a bit off /images/graemlins/devil.gif The sadistic bloodbath fans mwahahah

scorsesefan

03-02-2006, 03:03 AM

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Captain Impulse said:
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Trey-Trey said:
I love GONZO and I love BONES but they're literally night and day. I think it's an issue of quantity over quality. GONZO cranks out shows left and right and many of the foregrounds and backgrounds just don't mesh well. It looks too computerized and bright half of the time. Whereas BONES may only do one or two shows a year but their animation is very seamless and has a more natural look. It's hard to explain but most of you may understand what I mean.

[/ QUOTE ]

Word.

Series such as Wolf's Rain and Mars Daybreak are a testament to how good a series can look throughout it's entire run. Some moments may still be better than others, but you won't see the animation quality lag as significantly as other companies' shows. At least not in my experience.

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Don't forget about 12 Kingdoms. That one ran up to about 40 some odd episodes and never once was there a seriously noticeable change in animation style or quality. Since then, I've been a BONES convert, having previously spread the gospel of Gonzo. Me and Gonzo had our times, they were fun, but BONES has taken the forefront of what I've seen so far as the animation studio of Japan. Every single show I've seen of theirs not only looks good, but also has some of the best writing, pacing, music, and voice acting as well. (Talking about the original Japanese VA's here, just to clarify.)

I would follow these guys to the grave. And I've only ever said that before about Adam Sandler, so that's a pretty big deal for me. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

By the way, I would punch a baby in the fucking face for more Berserk. Seriouisly...I'd do it. I'd fucking do it.