mai otome/ my hime ?connection? do i need to see the first?

[star11]

Can anyone take the time to explain the difference here to me. A sequel, but not a sequel... A little confused. /images/graemlins/shy10000.gif
I don't want any spoilers of long discussions, I just want to know if it's important to see MY Hime before Mai Otome.

[Lego]

While they're aren't really "that connected", I would reccomend seeing Hime before Otome. The big thing for me in Otome, as I'm sure it was for other Hime fans, was that you were able to see your favorite characters in a new light. I mean seeing how they acted in Hime compared to Otome was fun.

But they're both stand alone shows, as Otome doesn't pick up from the end of Hime, and vice versa.

[XenoSaber]

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Lego said:
While they're aren't really "that connected", I would reccomend seeing Hime before Otome. The big thing for me in Otome, as I'm sure it was for other Hime fans, was that you were able to see your favorite characters in a new light. I mean seeing how they acted in Hime compared to Otome was fun.

But they're both stand alone shows, as Otome doesn't pick up from the end of Hime, and vice versa.

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I won't say how, but clearly they are related. I would definatly watch Hime first. If you want, I guess it would be possible to not watch it, but I would, you'll enjoy Otome much better if you do.

[Suwako Moriya]

Trust me on this. Watch My-HiME first then watch My-Otome. A lot of enjoyment in My-Otome comes from having watched My-HiME first. Heck some of the events and scenes in My-Otome wouldn't be half as interesting if I didn't watch My-HiME first. I won't say more than that.

[XenoCrisis0153]

Mai-Otome just basically takes the same characters from Mai-HiME and puts them in a totally different universe. The stories are only vaguley similiar, but other than those two things, there is really no relation. You can watch either series first and not miss out on anything.

[Lego]

Oh yeh, I know that they're related, via characters and events. But my point, as others have made is that you want to watch Hime first to get into the characters and the general idea of it.

[Njr Scrawl]

What would it be like to watch Otome first & then Hime? Are there things that happened & characters you consider improved in Otome that were less satisfying in Hime?

[Lego]

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Wrath of the Njr said:
What would it be like to watch Otome first & then Hime? Are there things that happened & characters you consider improved in Otome that were less satisfying in Hime?

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Well the big thing with me watching Hime first was that I got to know the characters, the events that happened to them, and develop a bond heh. I mean if you would watch Otome first, you would go into Hime wondering where Nina and the others went to.

If I went blindly into Otome without seeing Hime, I don't think that it would of been that satisfying. I mean half the fun of Otome was pointing out things and references from Hime that were put in. So I say watch Hime first to know the characters, then switch over to Otome for a "side story" that involves your favorite characters.

[Njr Scrawl]

Thanks /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Is Otome a shorter series? Hime seems to get more character pics & screen caps than Otome as well.

[Lego]

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Wrath of the Njr said:
Thanks /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Is Otome a shorter series? Hime seems to get more character pics & screen caps than Otome as well.

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Well Hime came out first, and was huge when it did come out. Hime's popularity led to Otome being made and the Otome OVA's coming out. Otome is 26 episodes also, with a upcoming 4 OVA's(think it was 4) sometime in the future.

[Perfect_Cell]

Isn't there a 2nd season of Hime as well?

[Lego]

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Isn't there a 2nd season of Hime as well?

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Not that I know of. There was that movie trailer that was used as a extra, but it wasn't real heh. I wouldn't be surprised if a new Hime series after Otome poped up, but as of now, nope.

[Suwako Moriya]

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Zei said:
Isn't there a 2nd season of Hime as well?

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You're probably thinking of the "My-HiME 2ND Project" which was the working title for what eventually became known as My-Otome. Essentially it was a name thrown out there to entice fans of My-HiME while they decided what this new series will be. Of course by watching My-Otome people can see the results of their decision.

[Perfect_Cell]

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Zei said:
Isn't there a 2nd season of Hime as well?

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You're probably thinking of the "My-HiME 2ND Project" which was the working title for what eventually became known as My-Otome. Essentially it was a name thrown out there to entice fans of My-HiME while they decided what this new series will be. Of course by watching My-Otome people can see the results of their decision.

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I think thats it. I got my info from ANN last year, though is this the same thing your talking about? My-Hime: The Next Stage is the title for that can probably mean 2nd project anyway.

ANN (http://animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=6467)

[Suwako Moriya]

Yes that would be exactly what I'm talking about and referring to. Well more or less anyway. In any case speaking My-HiME. I'm still hoping for a prequel OVA eventually. Ie to do with <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Mashiro's festival time </span>

[Fencedude]

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XenoCrisis0153 said:
Mai-Otome just basically takes the same characters from Mai-HiME and puts them in a totally different universe. The stories are only vaguley similiar, but other than those two things, there is really no relation. You can watch either series first and not miss out on anything.

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Oh really?

What makes you so sure about that assertion?

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Wrath of the Njr said:
What would it be like to watch Otome first &amp; then Hime?

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Still fun, but not as fun as it should be. Otome was meant to be seen after HiME, regardless of any related story elements or not. There's just too much in there for fans of HiME that you'll miss out on if you watch Otome first.

Definitely, definitely watch HiME first.

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Are there things that happened &amp; characters you consider improved in Otome that were less satisfying in Hime?

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Just my opinion, but the ending was just so profoundly more satisfying that I can't put it into words. Also, I liked the lead character more (Arika is love). There were a few characters I liked more this time around than their HiME "counterparts", but details would be spoilers.

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Fencedude said:
Oh really?
What makes you so sure about that assertion?

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I agree that it's a very dubious claim, but we don't want him to answer in thread as it would be quite spoily.

[Fencedude]

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disarm said:
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Wrath of the Njr said:
What would it be like to watch Otome first &amp; then Hime?

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Still fun, but not as fun as it should be. Otome was meant to be seen after HiME, regardless of any related story elements or not. There's just too much in there for fans of HiME that you'll miss out on if you watch Otome first.

Definitely, definitely watch HiME first.



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Also, most of the next episode previews will make exactly ZERO sense if you've never seen HiME.

[Charred Knight]

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Alyssa Searrs said:


You're probably thinking of the "My-HiME 2ND Project" which was the working title for what eventually became known as My-Otome. Essentially it was a name thrown out there to entice fans of My-HiME while they decided what this new series will be. Of course by watching My-Otome people can see the results of their decision.

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Actually, its a reference to both the anime and manga, they are both created at the same time, and use the same characters, but they also have completely different stories.

[XenoCrisis0153]

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XenoCrisis0153 said:
Mai-Otome just basically takes the same characters from Mai-HiME and puts them in a totally different universe. The stories are only vaguley similiar, but other than those two things, there is really no relation. You can watch either series first and not miss out on anything.

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Oh really?

What makes you so sure about that assertion?

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ummmmmm, I know you've seen both series, so I know you obviously know the answer to this, but since you won't let me off the hook without explaining it to you: (spoilers aren't too major since I stopped halfway to wait for DVD, but don't read unless you're at least 6 or 7 episodes in)
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>HiMEs and their Childs don't exist in Mai-Otome. Different characters have different powers. The Otome setting is not on Earth. In Otome, the students attend Gualdarobe for the sole purpose of being Otomes, but in HiME, the HiME students are forced to keep their secret. Otome has flying cars, oversized desert transportation vehicles and other more futuristic devices (not that those couldn't exist in HiME or any other modern-day anime, but they're definitely not as prominent). Given that most of the recurring characters are only about 3 or 4 years older, you *could* say that it is a sequel, but with the world changing much more drastically around them, I would say not. Plus, Mashiro is totally different (and not in a wheelchair). Oh, and Mikoto is a CAT.</span>

[DiGiKerot]

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XenoCrisis0153 said:spoilers aren't too major since I stopped halfway to wait for DVD, but don't read unless you're at least 6 or 7 episodes in.

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In which case, I think its wise to walk away right now and forget about this discussion until you've seen to the end of ZHiME - I'm saying no more than that /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif

[ayareiko]

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XenoCrisis0153 said:
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Fencedude said:
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XenoCrisis0153 said:
Mai-Otome just basically takes the same characters from Mai-HiME and puts them in a totally different universe. The stories are only vaguley similiar, but other than those two things, there is really no relation. You can watch either series first and not miss out on anything.

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Oh really?

What makes you so sure about that assertion?

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ummmmmm, I know you've seen both series, so I know you obviously know the answer to this, but since you won't let me off the hook without explaining it to you: (spoilers aren't too major since I stopped halfway to wait for DVD, but don't read unless you're at least 6 or 7 episodes in)
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>HiMEs and their Childs don't exist in Mai-Otome. Different characters have different powers. The Otome setting is not on Earth. In Otome, the students attend Gualdarobe for the sole purpose of being Otomes, but in HiME, the HiME students are forced to keep their secret. Otome has flying cars, oversized desert transportation vehicles and other more futuristic devices (not that those couldn't exist in HiME or any other modern-day anime, but they're definitely not as prominent). Given that most of the recurring characters are only about 3 or 4 years older, you *could* say that it is a sequel, but with the world changing much more drastically around them, I would say not. Plus, Mashiro is totally different (and not in a wheelchair). Oh, and Mikoto is a CAT.</span>

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1) I suggest you should continue to watch the series, given how far off you are on some of your "spoilers".

2) Parallel/Mirror Universe is more plausible than the idea that HiME and ZHiME are on the same timeline.

[Fencedude]

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XenoCrisis0153 said:
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Fencedude said:
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XenoCrisis0153 said:
Mai-Otome just basically takes the same characters from Mai-HiME and puts them in a totally different universe. The stories are only vaguley similiar, but other than those two things, there is really no relation. You can watch either series first and not miss out on anything.

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Oh really?

What makes you so sure about that assertion?

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ummmmmm, I know you've seen both series, so I know you obviously know the answer to this, but since you won't let me off the hook without explaining it to you: (spoilers aren't too major since I stopped halfway to wait for DVD, but don't read unless you're at least 6 or 7 episodes in)
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>HiMEs and their Childs don't exist in Mai-Otome. Different characters have different powers. The Otome setting is not on Earth. In Otome, the students attend Gualdarobe for the sole purpose of being Otomes, but in HiME, the HiME students are forced to keep their secret. Otome has flying cars, oversized desert transportation vehicles and other more futuristic devices (not that those couldn't exist in HiME or any other modern-day anime, but they're definitely not as prominent). Given that most of the recurring characters are only about 3 or 4 years older, you *could* say that it is a sequel, but with the world changing much more drastically around them, I would say not. Plus, Mashiro is totally different (and not in a wheelchair). Oh, and Mikoto is a CAT.</span>

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I have seen the entire series.

You have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

Understand?

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XenoCrisis0153 said:
I stopped halfway to wait for DVD

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That explains everything.

Why did you think you were knowledgable enough to answer with any authority if you've seen only about half? /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

[Njr Scrawl]

So, um...anyway, would you say Otome is like a dream or Wizard of Oz-type fantasy a Hime character might have?

[Fencedude]

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Wrath of the Njr said:
So, um...anyway, would you say Otome is like a dream or Wizard of Oz-type fantasy a Hime character might have?

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Like...as just wild speculation? Sure, why not?

As an actual explanation? No.

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Wrath of the Njr said:
So, um...anyway, would you say Otome is like a dream or Wizard of Oz-type fantasy a Hime character might have?

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Nah, nothing of the sort was ever indicated, so I don't believe that was ever what the creators intended. ::shrugs::

[Suwako Moriya]

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disarm said:
Why did you think you were knowledgable enough to answer with any authority if you've seen only about half? /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

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Especially since in any series the major secrets are never revealed that early. Plus there is always the change of focus. Whatever those may be. Either way it doesn't really matter if HiME and Otome are directly connected or not. Regardless of the truth it's still far better to watch HiME before Otome. It's as simple as that if you ask me.

[LupusUmbrus]

<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>&lt;snipsnip&gt; Better off somewhere else.</span>

edit: Moving this to a more appropriate thread.

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LupusUmbrus said:
I'm curious what everyone thinks about the planet that Otome takes place on.

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Can't say too much here without getting spoilery, so this is really best discussed in the Otome content discussion thread. Even if you add spoiler tags, it's just easier and safer to take it over to the Otome thread.

[LupusUmbrus]

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disarm said:
Can't say too much here without getting spoilery, so this is really best discussed in the Otome content discussion thread. Even if you add spoiler tags, it's just easier and safer to take it over to the Otome thread.

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Whoops, your right. Still getting my caffine intake for the day and forgot /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif Moving it over to another thread.

Getting more on topic, I'll ring in with more of the 'watch MaiHime first' crowd. There are so many references and nods to the fans in Otome that you'll miss out on some of the fun if you watch them out of order.

[XenoCrisis0153]

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Fencedude said:
I have seen the entire series.

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I am well aware, but thanks for telling me

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You have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

[/ QUOTE ] I was pretty clear in explaining that I hadn't seen the whole series, get it? Don't treat me (or any of us) like an idiot. I was explaining it from the POV of someone who was only halfway through. We were all at that point during some part. And even if I am quote-unquote wrong in any of my quote-unquote assertions, it does not matter, twists in anime ALWAYS come at *gasp* the end. Seeing Mai-HiME first will not change that. So to answer the original question.... NO, you do not HAVE to see HiME first. I will agree with others here though that you will get more enjoyment out of seeing HiME first, but for those who see Otome beforehand will not be totally lost.

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Understand?

[/ QUOTE ] I understand that you're a complete jackass, but many of us already knew that

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XenoCrisis0153 said:
I was explaining it from the POV of someone who was only halfway through.

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All well and good, but the post of yours that Fence initially responded to said nothing about only seeing half the series. You just made an assertion (made it in a very matter-of-fact way, at that) that was uninformed. I'm not going to defend Fence's, uh, lack of diplomacy, but you did get like 4-5 posts basically saying the same thing... that you weren't in a position to make the claim you did. So, you did not say that you only saw half of it, but what you did say is:

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You can watch either series first and not miss out on anything

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...and well, that's at best a very unorthodox and difficult to defend position, and I don't think anyone who has seen the whole series would agree. Heck, I am even sort of confused as to how someone who saw just half could even say that, but that's a separate issue I suppose. So, that's where the reaction comes in, and when your "spoilers" were even farther off, it just made it stronger.

I'm certainly not going to call you an idiot for it, because that's silly, but it was a largely uninformed post.

[Fencedude]

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XenoCrisis0153 said:
I was pretty clear in explaining that I hadn't seen the whole series, get it? Don't treat me (or any of us) like an idiot. I was explaining it from the POV of someone who was only halfway through. We were all at that point during some part. And even if I am quote-unquote wrong in any of my quote-unquote assertions, it does not matter, twists in anime ALWAYS come at *gasp* the end. Seeing Mai-HiME first will not change that. So to answer the original question.... NO, you do not HAVE to see HiME first. I will agree with others here though that you will get more enjoyment out of seeing HiME first, but for those who see Otome beforehand will not be totally lost.



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Your post had nothing to do with whether or not you HAVE to see HiME first (you don't, but you probably should), you stated, FLAT OUT, that they were unconnected. Which is something you had absolutely no basis for one way or another.

[Njr Scrawl]

Twists don't always come at the end. I don't consider the Scrapped Princess one near the end.