Higurashi no Naku Koro ni...anyone else watching? [Archive]

pathos

04-16-2006, 07:50 PM

Just curious.

Got around to watching the first episode. This one could end up being pretty good.

First episode was pretty solid. And it's pointing towards some pretty gruesome things to come, which always is a plus in my book /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Well, not that you couldnt tell that from the opening song or anything

Fencedude

04-16-2006, 07:52 PM

Just watched the first episode today, this is a very, very strange show.

I trust exactly none of the cast.

Oh, and did anyone else catch that Mion carries a gun! I almost missed that at first, I had to rewind and double check.

pathos

04-16-2006, 08:56 PM

Oh, I missed that. Just skimmed back through to find it.

It certainly looks like one. Heck, for all I know it's supposed to be a cell phone or something. But it definately looks like she's packing

Ty

04-16-2006, 11:17 PM

I skimmed the first ep with plans to watch it later. The beginning is certainly a wtf moment. After all the cool artwork floating around I must say the animation looks awfully cheap and undetailed though. That's a letdown, but if the show is interesting then it matters not.

BluWacky

04-17-2006, 03:20 AM

USO DA!!!!!

Yup, I'm watching; the character designs are abysmal and the day-to-day hijinks are retarded, but jesus is this show creepy. Episode 2 is even better on that front *evil grin*

Hopefully the silly bits will subside and it'll be near-permanent creepiness for much of the rest of the show.

golthin

04-17-2006, 03:43 AM

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pathos said:
Just curious.

Got around to watching the first episode. This one could end up being pretty good.

First episode was pretty solid. And it's pointing towards some pretty gruesome things to come, which always is a plus in my book /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Well, not that you couldnt tell that from the opening song or anything

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This seems to be a very interesting series! Rena gives me the creeps when she gets her demon eyes.

saeba_ryo

04-17-2006, 06:34 AM

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Oh, I missed that. Just skimmed back through to find it.

It certainly looks like one. Heck, for all I know it's supposed to be a cell phone or something. But it definately looks like she's packing 

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I've been waiting to check out this show ever since I saw Max Factory's figures for it. As for that particular scene I don't think it can be a cellphone as the story takes place in 1983. From some of the summaries I read that could be a gun as her family has ties to the Yakuza. Looks like this will be another show I will be following in what looks like a great anime season.

XenoSaber

04-17-2006, 10:13 AM

OK, let me see, one packs heat, the other just conviently happens to have a curved ax on hand at all times right. This is really creepy. I can't wait to see what happens next. Oh, and BTW, about that incident, "nothing happened".......right!

pathos

04-17-2006, 01:13 PM

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pathos said:
Oh, I missed that. Just skimmed back through to find it.

It certainly looks like one. Heck, for all I know it's supposed to be a cell phone or something. But it definately looks like she's packing 

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I've been waiting to check out this show ever since I saw Max Factory's figures for it. As for that particular scene I don't think it can be a cellphone as the story takes place in 1983. From some of the summaries I read that could be a gun as her family has ties to the Yakuza. Looks like this will be another show I will be following in what looks like a great anime season.

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At this point, I'm still not sure that the beginning short peice is actually the present. It might have been a flashback to what happened 20something years ago, with possibly the main characters dad or something? At this point, I guess just about anything is possible

golthin

04-19-2006, 09:55 PM

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pathos said:
Just curious.

Got around to watching the first episode. This one could end up being pretty good.

First episode was pretty solid. And it's pointing towards some pretty gruesome things to come, which always is a plus in my book /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Well, not that you couldnt tell that from the opening song or anything

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I just watched episode 3, I have never been scared in my life from watching anime. This is the first anime that brought me to something similar to my childhood days when watching scary movies made you want to stop but you couldn't. The mystery, being scared for the main character, and finding what the hell is up with all the girls. I can't wait for the next episode. This show has taken the place of ZHime for me to look forward every week. /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif

Kris Z

04-19-2006, 10:16 PM

I am reading Higurashi no Naku Koro ni that is published in SquareEnix's Gangan Comics and Gangan Wing Comics.

The Gangan Comics version focuses heavily on Rena and the designs are far better than the anime.

The Gangan Wing Comics version focuses more on Mion and her sister Shion. I have to admit that the Gangan Wing Comics version is by far the most superior version of them all. It has gorgeous character designs, it paces the story perfectly and it focuses more heavily on Shion and Mion rather than the other characters which I dislike.

It was kind of funny because when I picked up both Manga's from Kinokuniya I knew that it was something special since they have 7 different versions of the story being published simultaneously focusing more on certain characters and events. There is one thing wrong with it, and that is the 6 month difference waiting for more story from the SquareEnix version and it does a superior job when it comes to designs and storytelling.

edit: I still still watch the anime, but I am definitely buying the manga. I look forward for the volume 2 release of all the versions in 6/22/06.

Hell yeah, I just realized that the 2nd volume will be out much sooner than I thought /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Fencedude

04-20-2006, 08:19 AM

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pathos said:
Oh, I missed that. Just skimmed back through to find it.

It certainly looks like one. Heck, for all I know it's supposed to be a cell phone or something. But it definately looks like she's packing 

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I've been waiting to check out this show ever since I saw Max Factory's figures for it. As for that particular scene I don't think it can be a cellphone as the story takes place in 1983. From some of the summaries I read that could be a gun as her family has ties to the Yakuza. Looks like this will be another show I will be following in what looks like a great anime season.

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At this point, I'm still not sure that the beginning short peice is actually the present. It might have been a flashback to what happened 20something years ago, with possibly the main characters dad or something? At this point, I guess just about anything is possible

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You know, in that opening scene, those two (dead?) girls look an awful lot like Rena and Mion.

Anyway, episode 2 was DAMN creepy. Especially the part when Kei accuses Rena of hiding things (boy was that a stupid decision), and at the end when he realizes she'd overheard his phone conversation.

*shudders*

pathos

04-20-2006, 09:45 AM

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You know, in that opening scene, those two (dead?) girls look an awful lot like Rena and Mion.

Anyway, episode 2 was DAMN creepy. Especially the part when Kei accuses Rena of hiding things (boy was that a stupid decision), and at the end when he realizes she'd overheard his phone conversation.

*shudders*

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I think I pretty much have to agree with you now, I see a baseball bat in Keichi kun's future 

Gonna give episode 3 a shot tonight after work. Wow, this show is creepy /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

golthin

04-20-2006, 09:51 AM

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Fencedude said:

You know, in that opening scene, those two (dead?) girls look an awful lot like Rena and Mion.

Anyway, episode 2 was DAMN creepy. Especially the part when Kei accuses Rena of hiding things (boy was that a stupid decision), and at the end when he realizes she'd overheard his phone conversation.

*shudders*

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I think I pretty much have to agree with you now, I see a baseball bat in Keichi kun's future 

Gonna give episode 3 a shot tonight after work. Wow, this show is creepy /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

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Episode 3 will really creep you out! what you have seen So far has been nothing. This time keichi kun gets double teamed at night. It ends in a cliffhanger.

golthin

04-26-2006, 07:18 AM

Wow! I was not expecting this at all! this episode was brutal! Even though I saw the images at the first episode I
was not expecting this. Kaichi ends killing Mion and Rena with a bat in his room, then he dies in some mysterious way while talking to the police detective in a phone booth. The girls injected him with something, before he went berserk. /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif

Gatts

04-26-2006, 11:52 AM

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saeba_ryo said:
I've been waiting to check out this show ever since I saw Max Factory's figures for it.

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Question, where did you find Max Factory figures for this show? The only ones that I know of are the Spring ones for Shion and Mion which I didn't like because they were a bit stubby looking and one for Rumiko by Yujin.

*edit* Nevermind. I looked around a bit and answered my own question. The Max Factory ones are okay since they aren't as stubby as the 1/8 scale figures, but the poses are a bit boring compared to the Spring set.

But on the other hand, I will be getting the opening CD. I didn't notice Eiko was singing the opening for this series.

Jadawin

04-27-2006, 09:51 AM

I just watched the 3rd ep. and the last time that I hated certain characters so much was in Juuni Kokki. I hate ALL the girls! /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif And it pains me to see that the main character doesnt have the guts to talk back when the girls are in evil/possessed mode. At least the next morning he could go to them and ask: "What the fuck is wrong with you girls?!" or something. He could at least talk about Rena and mention her behaviour in her previous school if the others dont believe him.
Yeah I know its anime and therefore logic is non-existent. /images/graemlins/relief1.gif
Of course its perfectly possible that he is just imagining all these things although you could see Rena in evil looking mode at the end of ep. 2 (her eyes).

Jumbo

04-27-2006, 11:06 AM

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But on the other hand, I will be getting the opening CD. I didn't notice Eiko was singing the opening for this series.

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I guess I don't post enough for my signature to be of much advertising use. ^^; I'd thought about starting some kind of basic I've Sound Thread in the music forums but...

I've got my pre-order in already and looking forward to hearing the full length version. Compared to her "Healing Pops" label she has had on her past two releases this certainly seems like a break from the norm for her. (Though she pulls it off very well!)

Will post thoughts on the show itself once I get through ep. 4.

edit: grammer snaffu

Gatts

04-27-2006, 11:10 AM

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I guess I don't post enough for my signature to be of much advertising use. ^^;

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Heh, a bigger problem is that I rarely read sigs. I see plenty of your posts. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Jadawin

04-30-2006, 01:40 PM

Yeah that episode was indeed bloody and very shocking. In the end we dont know anything about what really happened.

I am just wondering if all the things the girls told him could be interpreted differently if their words were spoken normally and not with evil mode voices.
On the other hand, we had enough "3rd person scenes" where he wasnt present but the girls were still evil so it cant be just him imagining things.
But I already said that in a previous posting.

Dagger

04-30-2006, 01:52 PM

Episode 4 really impressed me. So many good shows this spring! If Higurashi keeps up this kind of pace for 26 episodes, it could go just about anywhere.

Ty

05-01-2006, 01:15 AM

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Episode 4 really impressed me. So many good shows this spring! If Higurashi keeps up this kind of pace for 26 episodes, it could go just about anywhere.

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If only they were getting licensed. /images/graemlins/sad.gif

I haven't seen ep.4 yet, but what I have seen I've really liked. The show does a surprising job of coming across with a genuinely creepy aura. The girls all act like life is all normal, and then they just turn ugly at the snap of a finger. I particularly liked the confrontation with Rena. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

SnowfairyX

05-04-2006, 04:58 PM

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Anyway, episode 2 was DAMN creepy. Especially the part when Kei accuses Rena of hiding things (boy was that a stupid decision), and at the end when he realizes she'd overheard his phone conversation.

*shudders*

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I definitely have to agree with you there. Those were the exact two scenes that stuck out in my mind which creeped me out and I thought I was starting to get desensitized to this type of stuff too. I may not have watched much anime like this (horror/mystery/suspense), but even by just the second episode, I don't think I've ever been more creeped out by any other anime, and even the recent live-action horror movies I've seen in the past year or two as well. That scene near the end was very subtle, but damn, that was creepy /images/graemlins/depresse.gif /images/graemlins/horse.gif.

About the first episode, I gotta say that even though it was technically boring, the way the episode opened up along with a very interesting opening introduction theme (also one of the best I've ever seen and heard), definitely got me intrigued so much that I just had to watch the second episode as soon as possible, which I did. The very light-heartedness of the first episode along with the very odd character designs seem to completely clash with the way the series opens up, and somehow that is what has got me so interested. I am definitely looking forward to more.

pathos

05-05-2006, 07:03 AM

Heh, every episode seems to top itself on the creepiness factor. This show has really surprised me

XenoSaber

05-07-2006, 01:30 AM

OK, so now I'm confused. I just caught ep 5 and it seems to have restarted with a new story. Is this supposed to be a combination of short creepies?

golthin

05-07-2006, 01:32 AM

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OK, so now I'm confused. I just caught ep 5 and it seems to have restarted with a new story. Is this supposed to be a combination of short creepies?

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I believe this is happening long before the events of episode 4. So we are getting more back story of what happened.

XenoSaber

05-07-2006, 01:39 AM

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OK, so now I'm confused. I just caught ep 5 and it seems to have restarted with a new story. Is this supposed to be a combination of short creepies?

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I believe this is happening long before the events of episode 4. So we are getting more back story of what happened.

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So, mabey even before ep 1 perhaps? This is going to get wierder and wierder, but that's fine with me.

saeba_ryo

05-07-2006, 03:24 AM

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OK, so now I'm confused. I just caught ep 5 and it seems to have restarted with a new story. Is this supposed to be a combination of short creepies?

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I believe this is happening long before the events of episode 4. So we are getting more back story of what happened.

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From what I've read its more of a alternative path then back story. The anime is based on a game and is divided into various chapters. Each chapter starts the same but ends differently based on the decisions made by Keiichi (the player). The goal of the player is to figure out what is happening in the town based upon the stories.

Fencedude

05-07-2006, 08:11 AM

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OK, so now I'm confused. I just caught ep 5 and it seems to have restarted with a new story. Is this supposed to be a combination of short creepies?

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Higurashi is divided up into chapters. Each chapter takes place over approximately the same period in time, and are basically alternate versions of events.

Sort of like a choose your own adventure novel.

Episodes 1~4 showed us one possible outcome, episodes 5~8 will show another, and presumably 9~12 another and so on.

Ty

05-08-2006, 11:33 AM

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Fencedude said:
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XenoSaber said:
OK, so now I'm confused. I just caught ep 5 and it seems to have restarted with a new story. Is this supposed to be a combination of short creepies?

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Higurashi is divided up into chapters. Each chapter takes place over approximately the same period in time, and are basically alternate versions of events.

Sort of like a choose your own adventure novel.

Episodes 1~4 showed us one possible outcome, episodes 5~8 will show another, and presumably 9~12 another and so on.

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That sounds pretty cool. Should be more intresting than a series of vignettes like I was expecting.

aquastar831

05-08-2006, 05:48 PM

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Fencedude said:
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XenoSaber said:
OK, so now I'm confused. I just caught ep 5 and it seems to have restarted with a new story. Is this supposed to be a combination of short creepies?

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Higurashi is divided up into chapters. Each chapter takes place over approximately the same period in time, and are basically alternate versions of events.

Sort of like a choose your own adventure novel.

Episodes 1~4 showed us one possible outcome, episodes 5~8 will show another, and presumably 9~12 another and so on.

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That's what I've been told too. It's like the if you get a bad ending in a choose your path game, reload a previous save, and go back and make a different decision to see what happens. Interesting way to structure a show. This is a creepy but intriguing show. I'm interested to see the different outcomes that can occur with this.

Shale

05-15-2006, 12:47 AM

So some friends of mine grabbed me and convinced me to watch the first arc of this tonight. It's a hell of a show to marathon - the first four episodes really feel like one well-made horror movie when you watch them back-to-back. Great pacing. There wasn't really any one moment that creeped me out in particular, but the overall effect was...er, effective.

Oh, and I echo not trusting anybody who's showed up, ever. Or their alternate-universe twins. I just hope the other arcs aren't too different - I'd like to be able to find out what the bloody hell's going on sometime.

Nork22

05-15-2006, 01:17 AM

Had a go at this without much enthusiasm apart from knowing that there's some murderous lolis running around. Add to it Fence's current avatar kinda made me go "WTF up with that?"

After finish the first story arc.... God... I never felt so freaked out in my life. Not to mention I watched it from 12am to 2am straight. /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif So much unanswered mysteries and the question on whether it was a descent into madness or something more sinister afoot, had me up most of the night racking my brains out to try and find some clues.

Can't wait to see how the second arc plays out. I'm feeling uneasy already seeing the relationship between the "twins" and K1.

SnowfairyX

05-15-2006, 11:20 PM

This is probably an inane and unecessary amount of text, but these are just some of my thoughts and observations of the first 4 episodes:

Episode 1:

Keiichi plays a card game with the group of girls and loses. He gets a punishment game in which much of his face is drawn on by what looks like an ordinary black marker. After this scene, there is a short clip of a vase containing a bunch of flowers and one of them falls off. It does not seem to mean anything, but this scene might possibly be important.

Episode 2:

4 years ago during the Watanagashi, a murder took place in which a person was dismembered. One year later, a man fell off a cliff and died and his wifeâ€™s body was also never found. One year after that, a shrine owner dies of a mysterious illness and his wife had supposedly committed suicide by throwing herself in the swamp (she wrote a suicide not). On the 4th year, a housewifeâ€™s dead beaten body (husband of housewife is the younger brother of the dam supporter who died two years earlier from falling off cliff) is found. During the 5th year of which it is currently, the photographer (Tomitake) is found dead and the woman he was with (Takano) is missing.

The body of the photographer was found 5 minutes before 12 noon. The estimated time of death was between 9:00 and 11:00 pm. There is evidence that he may have been abused by several people before his death. Keiichi is told by the cop (Oishi) not to tell anyone about the conversation, especially not Mion.

Keiichi can't sleep that night and the next day while he is laying his head down on the classroom desk during club activities, he overhears a conversation between Rena and Mion that appears to be about the woman that had gone missing. Keiichi supposedly had not told anyone about this, yet they already seem to know.

Later during the day while Keiichi is walking home with Rena, he accuses her and everyone else of lying or hiding stuff from him. Rena goes into "Oyashiro" mode for the first time and ends the conversation by turning around the conversation and accuses Keiichi of lying and keeping secrets, and seems to know exactly what he is up to.

Oishi calls Keiichi at his home the next night and says he is calling from the Okonimiya bookstore, yet it appears he is really calling from a place where people play Mahjong?

Of the first victim who was dismembered, there were 6 murderers but one was never captured.

A cocaine addict is arrested for the murder of the housewife (the 4th year victim) but dies in his jail cell before he is proven to have committed the crime. The child of the family, Houjou Satoshi-kun, (1 year older than Keiichi) goes missing. He had attended school until last year.

Episode 3:

At the beginning of the episode, the time is 8:05.

At the doctor's office where he receives a shot for a cold, Keiichi finds out the name of the missing woman, which is Takano.

The victim of the first year was the foreman of the construction site. He had fought with Sonozaki Mion-san a few weeks prior to his death. The dam supporting couple of whom the man had died and the woman had disappeared had a daughter named Hojo Satoko (Keiichi's younger classmate with the blond hair). During the third year, the shrine priest who had died from a mysterious illness and whose wife had supposedly committed suicide, had a daughter, Furude Rika-san (Keiichi's younger classmate with the blue/purple hair). The housewife whom had been murdered during the 4th year is Hojo Satokoâ€™s aunt by marriage. She had custody of Satoko-san because of her parentsâ€™ deaths. The boy who had gone missing during the 4th year (Houjo Satoshi) is Satoko-sanâ€™s brother by birth. Tomitake, the current victim is connected to everyone in some way.

Rena and Mion come by and give Keiichi some ohagi to eat. Rena mentions that she made one of the ohagi and Keiichi is asked to guess which one she made. Keiichi freaks out when he finds a needle in the ohagi marked E, out of 5 that are marked from A-E.

Almost immediately after that incident, Keiichi starts writing a letter that says the following: I, Maebara Keiichi, am being hunted by someone. I donâ€™t know why or who it is. But I do know that it has something to do with the curse of Oyashiro-sama. At 1:25, he folds up the letter and places it behind the clock.

The following night, Keiichiâ€™s mother calls him to tell him that they had left for Tokyo before noon. She says they will be back tomorrow night.

Keiichi looks for the ohagi he had previously thrown against the wall the previous night. He tries to find the needle, but he doesnâ€™t find any trace of the ohagi. Either his parents had cleaned up the mess before they left, or maybe he was imagining things?

Episode 4:

After Keiichi repeatedly slams the door on Rena's fingers while telling her to go home, Keiichi observes her standing outside his window in the middle of the rain and notices that she appears to be repeatedly uttering the words, "I'm sorry."

It seems like there might be something up with the cieling light.

Later on, when Keiichi is running away from "Oyashiro" mode Rena who is laughing maniacally, he runs into 3 very suspicious looking men and is knocked out by one of them. He later wakes up in his own room with Rena sitting beside him and Mion soon after.

The girls mention that the â€œDirectorâ€ will be happy that Keiichi is into baseball. Who is the "Director"?

Keiichi gets a penalty game for forgetting about the ohagi home. Rena holds him down while Mion attempts to inject him with a needle.

After killing the two girls, Keiichi takes the letter that he hid behind the clock and writes some additional notes with the following: â€œRena and Mion are part of the criminal gang. In addition, four or five adults own a white van. Tomitake-sanâ€™s death was due to an unknown drug. This syringe is for evidence.â€ When he puts the piece of paper back behind the clock, the time is 8:00 pm.

Keiichiâ€™s last words are: "Go-na-i."

When the police search the house, it is examined that the clock may have had something else attached to it besides the note that they find of Keiichiâ€™s (probably the syringe). The lines mentioning how Tomitake dies and the syringe as being used as evidence is missing from the paper. The 2nd page contains the following: â€œHow things became like this, I do not know. If you are reading this, by that timeâ€¦I will already be dead. To whomever reading this, please uncover the truth. That is my only wish, Maebara Keiichi.â€

After watching these episodes 2 or 3 times each, I still can't quite figure out what the heck is going on. I think at least partly that Keiichi is probably imagining some of this stuff though. That would be especially bad if the girls weren't really psycho all along and it was really Keiichi himself that went completely nuts and finally ended up killing them. That would be even more depressing if that was the case and I somehow have a strong feeling it is /images/graemlins/depresse.gif.

Anyway, these 4 episodes were absolutely fantastic and I don't think I've ever been more creeped out and fascinated by an anime, much less live-action. I've seen episodes 5 and 6 as well, but I'll add some comments on those later. This is some really great stuff.

Shale

05-16-2006, 09:24 AM

A few other things I think are/could be important from the first arc, with a focus on symbolism:

<ul type="square"> The card game in episode 1 is played with marked cards. In general, the club cheats at every game they play.

In episode 2, the club plays a game of Clue. The solution - the murderer, weapon, and location of the crime - is Rika, with poison, in the doctor's office. Rika mentions she'd use something that works slowly.

(With apologies to Fence for lifting his theory) Following that point, everything horror-ific that Rena and Mion do comes after the doctor gives Keiichi an injection in the beginning of episode 3.

WARNING: DETAIL FROM THE GAME (but from the first chapter. so it's an event we've already seen)

 the game shows that, before the smashing in episode 4, Mion and Rena did not inject Keiichi with whatever was in that syringe. So whatever it was didn't cause his suicide at the end.

Okay, that's done.

We never see the bodies of this year's curse victims.

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That's all I can think of. Man, does this show encourage overthinking.

something

05-16-2006, 11:59 PM

So I just watched episodes 1-3 (and am about to watch 4-6) and holy shit this show is awesome.

And creepy.

And cute.

And cutecreepy. Cuteepy. Creeute?

Bipolar, at the least.

There were some truly great scenes in those episodes, such as: Rena screaming "YOU LIAR" when the guy says he wasn't talking about them, and all the birds fly out of the tree... Rena and Mion at the door before they give him the needle meatball, when as the door is closing, it suddenly cuts to a closeup of Mion's eye as she gives him a final warning... Rena's look when she says "Transfer" in episode three.

It's just fucked up, and I love it. The lead's life is quickly becoming a living hell >_> Though the "living" part seems to become less sure as time goes on /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

Edit: just finished the first chapter at 4... and just... wow. So disturbing, but so good.

HOWEVER.

Now we jump back in the storyline to when everyone is alive and all is well? I'm almost done episode 5 now and it's just not working for me. I can't go back to the cutesey stuff after episode four. Hell, there's not much I can go back to after the trauma that was episode four. Seeing them playing around hapyp and all is just... justttttt...

I dunno man. I'll withhold judgement until I see where they go with all this, but I'm really beginning to think that their chosen chronology was a really unfortunate choice...

We'll see.

Edit2: Ok, almost done episode six and it looks like it's neither thing I thought... it's the same story retold multiple ways? Because they've clearly changed the chronology entirely... Shion, different set of events at Watanagashi, etc...

Weird stuff.

Fencedude

05-17-2006, 08:19 AM

Each chapter is a different telling of the same basic events.

Sorta like a Choose your own adventure book.

You get a BAD END, so you start over, make different decissions...and get BAD END again.

something

05-17-2006, 12:43 PM

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Each chapter is a different telling of the same basic events.
Sorta like a Choose your own adventure book.
You get a BAD END, so you start over, make different decissions...and get BAD END again.

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Haha, yes, it's going to be BAD END no matter what. What I can't decide is if I like it better this way or not. I suppose that in the end I can't answer that for myself, because it simply is what it is, and I can't compare what it is to what it isn't.

It's just that as I started episode five and wasn't aware of the retelling yet, I was so confused and uneasy about how it was going. But now I know that, well, that first story is simply over and there's a new one coming. One that's just as creepy >_> Snatching away the sacrifice and eating their intestines, indeed.

Suwako Moriya

05-17-2006, 09:14 PM

I have no idea why, but I decided to watch the first four episodes to see if this series is err whacked as you people make it out to be. Now I realize that is an understatement. Still I think I'll take my time watching the series, so I can seen an entire arc in one sitting. In fact if this get released on DVD here, I hope whoever releases the DVDs here can find a way to have each self contained to one dvd.

Oh yeah while watching the first four episodes. Multiple thoughts went through my mind. One was I kept thinking when will they reveal their true forms Second was everyone must either be possessed, be good actors, or have split personalities, finally I reached the point of even wondering if I should be more suspicious of the main.

It seems each arc begins with a scene that takes place near the end although that may not hold true for the second arc. Still if that does hold true. They should do an arc where the scene meant to take place later looks perfectly happy just to leave us confused. Wondering what the true evil of the scene is supposed to be. Yes I would not put that past them.

Either way I'm going to now spend awhile wondering what the heck I should think of this series. Oh yes I have actually messed around with Choose your own adventure books and sometimes would just play around to see what endings I could get.

05-17-2006, 09:30 PM

It scares me. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

I've only seen the first two episodes and in the process of getting the 3rd, but getting no. 7 of HSnY [The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya]. I'm just waitin' for someone to die right infront of us. Part of me wants to see what leads up to the moment of the first scene in the show, but part of me doesn't. I sometimes hope it's a dream, but i doubt it is. If i had to guess it'll either be at the second to last episode or 1/2 through the show.

Fencedude

05-17-2006, 09:33 PM

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The Alaskan Assassin said:
It scares me. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

I've only seen the first two episodes and in the process of getting the 3rd, but getting no. 7 of HSnY [The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya]. I'm just waitin' for someone to die right infront of us. Part of me wants to see what leads up to the moment of the first scene in the show, but part of me doesn't. I sometimes hope it's a dream, but i doubt it is. If i had to guess it'll either be at the second to last episode or 1/2 through the show.

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Heh...hehehehehehhehehehe.....

golthin

05-17-2006, 09:37 PM

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So I just watched episodes 1-3 (and am about to watch 4-6) and holy shit this show is awesome.

And creepy.

And cute.

And cutecreepy. Cuteepy. Creeute?

Bipolar, at the least.

There were some truly great scenes in those episodes, such as: Rena screaming "YOU LIAR" when the guy says he wasn't talking about them, and all the birds fly out of the tree... Rena and Mion at the door before they give him the needle meatball, when as the door is closing, it suddenly cuts to a closeup of Mion's eye as she gives him a final warning... Rena's look when she says "Transfer" in episode three.

It's just fucked up, and I love it. The lead's life is quickly becoming a living hell >_> Though the "living" part seems to become less sure as time goes on /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

Edit: just finished the first chapter at 4... and just... wow. So disturbing, but so good.

HOWEVER.

Now we jump back in the storyline to when everyone is alive and all is well? I'm almost done episode 5 now and it's just not working for me. I can't go back to the cutesey stuff after episode four. Hell, there's not much I can go back to after the trauma that was episode four. Seeing them playing around hapyp and all is just... justttttt...

I dunno man. I'll withhold judgement until I see where they go with all this, but I'm really beginning to think that their chosen chronology was a really unfortunate choice...

We'll see.

Edit2: Ok, almost done episode six and it looks like it's neither thing I thought... it's the same story retold multiple ways? Because they've clearly changed the chronology entirely... Shion, different set of events at Watanagashi, etc...

Weird stuff.

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This is an alternate universe where Mion has a twin. In the first 4 episodes she didn't have one. Or so i have read .

Dagger

05-17-2006, 09:42 PM

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The Alaskan Assassin said:
It scares me. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

I've only seen the first two episodes and in the process of getting the 3rd, but getting no. 7 of HSnY [The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya]. I'm just waitin' for someone to die right infront of us. Part of me wants to see what leads up to the moment of the first scene in the show, but part of me doesn't. I sometimes hope it's a dream, but i doubt it is. If i had to guess it'll either be at the second to last episode or 1/2 through the show.

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Heh...hehehehehehhehehehe.....

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You shouldn't be allowed to laugh like that when you're using such a creepy avatar. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Moving on, though, I've gotta mention that the opening scene of episode 5 is one of the most memorable sequences I've seen in any anime. I went back and re-watched it multiple times (which probably makes me come off as being completely sick, but oh well). It was very well directed, despite being so brief.

And as far as I'm concerned, Mion's crazed laugh was an absolute tour de force on the part of her seiyuu.

Fencedude

05-17-2006, 09:44 PM

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This is an alternate universe where Mion has a twin. In the first 4 episodes she didn't have one. Or so i have read .

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No, she existed, we just never met her.

The only differences between the arcs are the decisions K1 makes.

Dagger

05-17-2006, 09:45 PM

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This is an alternate universe where Mion has a twin. In the first 4 episodes she didn't have one. Or so i have read .

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Really? Where did you read this? Given that Shion even appears in the OP sequence, I was pretty sure that K1 just didn't meet her in Onikakushi-hen. Her existence may explain some of what happens in Onikakushi-hen, such as Mion being aware of K1's restaurant meeting with Oishi.

ETA: Thanks for confirming it, Fence. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

05-17-2006, 09:57 PM

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Fencedude said:
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The Alaskan Assassin said:
It scares me. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

I've only seen the first two episodes and in the process of getting the 3rd, but getting no. 7 of HSnY [The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya]. I'm just waitin' for someone to die right infront of us. Part of me wants to see what leads up to the moment of the first scene in the show, but part of me doesn't. I sometimes hope it's a dream, but i doubt it is. If i had to guess it'll either be at the second to last episode or 1/2 through the show.

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Heh...hehehehehehhehehehe.....

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*runs away*

*cries*

something

05-17-2006, 10:36 PM

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Dagger said:
Moving on, though, I've gotta mention that the opening scene of episode 5 is one of the most memorable sequences I've seen in any anime. I went back and re-watched it multiple times (which probably makes me come off as being completely sick, but oh well).

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Don't worry, I did this as well. About five times. I couldn't stop, it was too fucked up, yet poweful >_<

something

05-17-2006, 10:40 PM

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Fencedude said:
Heh...hehehehehehhehehehe.....

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*runs away*
*cries*

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That should be pretty accurate in the end =D

If you thought 1-2 were bad, ohhhhhhhh man. 3-4 are frickin brutal. I LOVE IT!

aquastar831

05-18-2006, 01:09 AM

Alaskin Assassin, so I see you subjected yourself to this series. I've seen up to ep 5 so far. Yeah, if you thought that the first arc was brutal, prepare for the shock for the prologue that starts on ep 5. That disturbing scene is still sticking in my mind. Aaaaaaaaah!

Good thing I have Haruhi eps to counterbalance the shock. Though I have a feeling that there will be a few times where I'm going to have trouble sleeping.

SnowfairyX

05-18-2006, 02:20 AM

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Shale said:
WARNING: DETAIL FROM THE GAME (but from the first chapter. so it's an event we've already seen)

 the game shows that, before the smashing in episode 4, Mion and Rena did not inject Keiichi with whatever was in that syringe. So whatever it was didn't cause his suicide at the end.

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Based solely on the anime itself, it really seems that way to me as well. My guess is that at least at that point, Keiichi was hallucinating and that the girls didn't mean him any real harm, including not even having an actual syringe to inject him with. I think it might have been a marker that they used to draw on his face in the first episode. Take a look at this (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/SnowfairyX/Higurashi%20no%20Naku%20Koro%20ni/higurashi-marker2.jpg) scene from the first episode and the scene from episode 4 (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/SnowfairyX/Higurashi%20no%20Naku%20Koro%20ni/higurashi-syringe2.jpg). Don't they look eerily similar?

(episode 4 spoiler) Also if the girls really wanted to harm him, why did they not restrain him properly beforehand? Was it also a smart idea to leave two young girls alone to guard a guy such as Keiichi who could very likely overpower them and also conveniently leave his baseball bat in the room too? This is assuming there are little to no plot holes.

SnowfairyX

05-18-2006, 02:58 AM

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Dagger said:
Moving on, though, I've gotta mention that the opening scene of episode 5 is one of the most memorable sequences I've seen in any anime. I went back and re-watched it multiple times (which probably makes me come off as being completely sick, but oh well). It was very well directed, despite being so brief.

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It definitely keeps one watching doesn't it? I thought the beginning of the first episode did a fantastic job in doing that, and this scene probably even more so. I've watched this scene several times too, but that also went with my multiple viewings of the first 4 episodes.

Also, another thing about the beginning of the 5th episode. In previous episodes, some people said that they noticed that Mion occassionaly seemed to be carrying a gun with her holstered over her left shoulder, which I never noticed myself the first time I saw those episodes. Anyway, someone on another forum told me it wasn't a gun. He said to pay close attention to the beginning of the 5th episode and notice the way she is holding something in her right hand. It's pretty unclear exactly what the item in question is at least to me (I thought it really was a gun the first time I saw it), but he said that the way she was holding it made it out to be a stun gun. Interesting little tidbit, but I don't really know whether that's important or not, or if that's definitive proof over exactly what she's carrying with her.

Nork22

05-18-2006, 07:38 AM

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Virginia Knights said:
I have no idea why, but I decided to watch the first four episodes to see if this series is err whacked as you people make it out to be. Now I realize that is an understatement. Still I think I'll take my time watching the series, so I can seen an entire arc in one sitting. In fact if this get released on DVD here, I hope whoever releases the DVDs here can find a way to have each self contained to one dvd.

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That was pretty what a friend of mine said when he started watching the show. At first he though it wasn't all that great until he saw episodes 3 and 4.

Hehehehehehehehe... /images/graemlins/devil.gif /images/graemlins/devil.gif /images/graemlins/devil.gif

I want the anime licenced, the manga brought over, SquareEnix to release the PS2 game in English and get a 1/1 size replica of Rena's machete. /images/graemlins/devil.gif

Shale

05-18-2006, 09:52 AM

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SnowfairyX said:
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Shale said:
WARNING: DETAIL FROM THE GAME (but from the first chapter. so it's an event we've already seen)

 the game shows that, before the smashing in episode 4, Mion and Rena did not inject Keiichi with whatever was in that syringe. So whatever it was didn't cause his suicide at the end.

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Based solely on the anime itself, it really seems that way to me as well. My guess is that at least at that point, Keiichi was hallucinating and that the girls didn't mean him any real harm, including not even having an actual syringe to inject him with. I think it might have been a marker that they used to draw on his face in the first episode. Take a look at this (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/SnowfairyX/Higurashi%20no%20Naku%20Koro%20ni/higurashi-marker2.jpg) scene from the first episode and the scene from episode 4 (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/SnowfairyX/Higurashi%20no%20Naku%20Koro%20ni/higurashi-syringe2.jpg). Don't they look eerily similar?

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..."penalty game"...Heh.

pathos

05-18-2006, 11:23 AM

I'm curious about the end of episode 6 myself...
 I think everyone will agree he was talking to Mion and not Shion on the phone. But, do you think Shion is already dead?

Fencedude

05-20-2006, 05:49 PM

Holy shit. That was...yeah.

For now, I'll just throw out a theory or two concerning Shion/Mion

A) Shion is dead/vanished, the "Shion" K1 has been talking too since the festival is really Mion pretending to be Shion

B) Mion is dead/vanished, the "Shion" K1 has been talking to is Shion pretending to be Mion pretending to be Shion

XenoSaber

05-20-2006, 06:18 PM

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Fencedude said:
Holy shit. That was...yeah.

For now, I'll just throw out a theory or two concerning Shion/Mion

A) Shion is dead/vanished, the "Shion" K1 has been talking too since the festival is really Mion pretending to be Shion

B) Mion is dead/vanished, the "Shion" K1 has been talking to is Shion pretending to be Mion pretending to be Shion 

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But at several points they were all seen together, like at the festival!!!! /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

something

05-20-2006, 07:21 PM

This show does is quite fricking amazing, really. The way they handled that last phone call and the transition from crying to laughter was just... maaaaaaaaaaan~

As for Shion/Mion - well, your option B is always possible but perhaps a bit too convoluted. I'm not sure what the significance of it would be either, unless there's some massive multilayered Shion-driven plot, straight down to dressing exactly like her during the Rika "headache" scene upcoming next episode. I suppose I'll have to go with A. I can see "Mion being a crazy bitch" being a common strand through every chapter =P

About the only thing lacking this episode was the "crazy Mion at the ladder" scene, which wasn't bad in and of itself, but the mismatch between how she looked on screen and how her VA spoke was pretty extreme. That probably could have been smoothed out and synched up better /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

But on the other hand, no blood no blood no blood no blood... XD And the way she instantly snapped out of it when others arrived was hilarious =P

I do have to say I'm happy that it seems like Rena will get out clean. Well, maybe. She hasn't said anything psychotic and isn't involved in the incident at the storehouse, at least. On the other hand, she swore she would never disappear, which I suppose gives her a 70% chance of doing just that /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

And I'm still not looking forward to seeing Rika make her dramatic exit, but it's only a matter of time...

something

05-20-2006, 07:22 PM

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XenoSaber said:
But at several points they were all seen together, like at the festival!!!! /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

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He's saying *after* the festival though. We haven't seen "Shion" since then, only heard her voice on the phone. Or, were led to believe so.

golthin

05-20-2006, 09:01 PM

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disarm said:
This show does is quite fricking amazing, really. The way they handled that last phone call and the transition from crying to laughter was just... maaaaaaaaaaan~

As for Shion/Mion - well, your option B is always possible but perhaps a bit too convoluted. I'm not sure what the significance of it would be either, unless there's some massive multilayered Shion-driven plot, straight down to dressing exactly like her during the Rika "headache" scene upcoming next episode. I suppose I'll have to go with A. I can see "Mion being a crazy bitch" being a common strand through every chapter =P

About the only thing lacking this episode was the "crazy Mion at the ladder" scene, which wasn't bad in and of itself, but the mismatch between how she looked on screen and how her VA spoke was pretty extreme. That probably could have been smoothed out and synched up better /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

But on the other hand, no blood no blood no blood no blood... XD And the way she instantly snapped out of it when others arrived was hilarious =P

I do have to say I'm happy that it seems like Rena will get out clean. Well, maybe. She hasn't said anything psychotic and isn't involved in the incident at the storehouse, at least. On the other hand, she swore she would never disappear, which I suppose gives her a 70% chance of doing just that /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

And I'm still not looking forward to seeing Rika make her dramatic exit, but it's only a matter of time...

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MAAAAAN! This arc is as creepy as the first one, if not more. This show is incredible.

SnowfairyX

05-21-2006, 12:57 PM

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disarm said:
no blood no blood no blood no blood... 

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That is a mistranslation by the way, just in case you didn't find out already. The correct translation is "that's it," or something like that.

I'll post more comments later after I re-watch the episode again later tonight.

golthin

05-21-2006, 02:48 PM

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SnowfairyX said:
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disarm said:
no blood no blood no blood no blood... 

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That is a mistranslation by the way, just in case you didn't find out already. The correct translation is "that's it," or something like that.

I'll post more comments later after I re-watch the episode again later tonight.

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Very interesting.
That is the first time I heard that expression. It must be a very obscure slang.

something

05-21-2006, 07:07 PM

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disarm said:
no blood no blood no blood no blood... 

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That is a mistranslation by the way, just in case you didn't find out already. The correct translation is "that's it," or something like that.

I'll post more comments later after I re-watch the episode again later tonight.

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Fair enough, as "no blood" made no fucking sense, but sounded awesome at least. I'd have to rewatch the scene to tell if "that's it" makes any more sense, but I think making sense wasn't necessarily Mion's goal.

It did sound like "Chi ga nai" though. What did she really say?

Fencedude

05-21-2006, 07:20 PM

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It did sound like "Chi ga nai" though. What did she really say?

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Chigai Nai

Gatts

05-21-2006, 07:21 PM

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It did sound like "Chi ga nai" though.

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If you have a sound clip, I can listen to it. It's possible that they are saying chigai nai é•ã„ãªã„. Which is a version of chigau é•ã† or "that's wrong" or "that's different". That would sound close enough to chi gai inai è¡€ãŒã„ãªã„.

*edit* or I could wait for Fence to post it. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

something

05-21-2006, 07:27 PM

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disarm said:
It did sound like "Chi ga nai" though.

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If you have a sound clip, I can listen to it. It's possible that they are saying chigai nai é•ã„ãªã„. Which is a version of chigau é•ã† or "that's wrong" or "that's different". That would sound close enough to chi gai inai è¡€ãŒã„ãªã„.

*edit* or I could wait for Fence to post it. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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That would have been my second guess (chigai nai) and I thought for a little while after watching that that might have been what she said, but that also doesn't equal the "that's it" that SnowFairy said it really was (in fact, it'd be the opposite /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif) so I thought maybe there was a third option I wasn't hearing at all. The "nai" was pretty hard to miss though, and I figured she migth have been shortening "inai" to "nai".

But then again through most of that scene I was just staring at the hideous expression she was making and she was speaking so fast that the words seemed irrelevant XD

golthin

05-21-2006, 07:51 PM

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disarm said:
It did sound like "Chi ga nai" though.

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If you have a sound clip, I can listen to it. It's possible that they are saying chigai nai é•ã„ãªã„. Which is a version of chigau é•ã† or "that's wrong" or "that's different". That would sound close enough to chi gai inai è¡€ãŒã„ãªã„.

*edit* or I could wait for Fence to post it. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Learned something new! this is the first time I see that term in either spoken or written Japanese.

Shale

05-23-2006, 12:11 AM

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Fencedude said:
Holy shit. That was...yeah.

For now, I'll just throw out a theory or two concerning Shion/Mion

A) Shion is dead/vanished, the "Shion" K1 has been talking too since the festival is really Mion pretending to be Shion

B) Mion is dead/vanished, the "Shion" K1 has been talking to is Shion pretending to be Mion pretending to be Shion 

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I'm going to go with option B.

With the village chief's schedule as given, the only opportunity anybody had to talk to him would be at the meeting. Of the twins, Mion, as the active Yakuza, is much more likely to have been at that meeting. It's also possible, if Shion has been impersonating Mion since her disappearance, she was also pretending to be Mion at that meeting, and "confessed" to the chief specifically to eliminate both him and Mion.

Also, three guesses who called Rika and Satoko. First two don't count. No matter who's really gone missing, the villain of the piece is one of the Sonozaki family.

Nork22

05-23-2006, 09:00 AM

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Shale said:It's also possible, if Shion has been impersonating Mion since her disappearance, she was also pretending to be Mion at that meeting, and "confessed" to the chief specifically to eliminate both him and Mion.

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While that may be, I highly doubt Shion was impersonating Mion for the simple reason that Rika mentions that the elder 'cat' is punishing the younger 'cat'
Geh... best not to try to create a reason when I'm half-drunk... /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

Shale

05-23-2006, 10:01 AM

That assumes Rika is right about who's who, though.

something

05-23-2006, 10:02 AM

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That assumes Rika is right about who's who, though.

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So many possibilities. I'm just waiting for the arc where the cameraman gets tired of dying and kills everyone else XD

Jumbo

05-23-2006, 11:27 AM

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Gatts said:
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disarm said:
It did sound like "Chi ga nai" though.

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If you have a sound clip, I can listen to it. It's possible that they are saying chigai nai é•ã„ãªã„. Which is a version of chigau é•ã† or "that's wrong" or "that's different". That would sound close enough to chi gai inai è¡€ãŒã„ãªã„.

*edit* or I could wait for Fence to post it. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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That would have been my second guess (chigai nai) and I thought for a little while after watching that that might have been what she said, but that also doesn't equal the "that's it" that SnowFairy said it really was (in fact, it'd be the opposite /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif)

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Actually... SnowFairy is close enough. Don't forget the fact that the "nai" in there makes it negative so it is more literally "Not wrong" or "Not Different" This negative basically gives it the same meaning as "kanarazu" [å¿…ãš](certainly). So it should translate to "I am sure, surely or that's it, make no mistake." Something along those lines.

Shi/(?)Mion is just confirming her monolog there. (Or trying to tell herself that it has to be that way.)

golthin

05-24-2006, 08:57 AM

Well, this arc is quite different from the first one. We find who actually did the killings. I couldn't help feel sorry for Mion, she is possesed by a demon and it is forcing her to do all the killings. Sion is still alive, the reason he has not been killed is because Mion likes him. Rika and Satoko also were killed. At the end Keiichi ends in the hospital and Sion dies. The Demon Mion appears in the hospital to end her job, so we don't actually know if Keiichi dies or live. The fact that the Demon awoke because Keiichi gave Rena a doll instead of Mion is a very interesting fact.

This end was not as shocking but very Sad in IMHO.

XenoSaber

05-25-2006, 12:42 AM

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golthin said:
Well, this arc is quite different from the first one. We find who actually did the killings. I couldn't help feel sorry for Mion, she is possesed by a demon and it is forcing her to do all the killings. Sion is still alive, the reason he has not been killed is because Mion likes him. Rika and Satoko also were killed. At the end Keiichi ends in the hospital and Sion dies. The Demon Mion appears in the hospital to end her job, so we don't actually know if Keiichi dies or live. The fact that the Demon awoke because Keiichi gave Rena a doll instead of Mion is a very interesting fact.

This end was not as shocking but very Sad in IMHO.

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That doesn't make sense. I think the doll may have started things but didn't manafest anything, if it had Rena would have gotten the full brunt of the problem, not Shion. It seems to me that Keichi was falling for Shion because she had a better personality than Mion, and that's what really started it. The demon was released at the festival when they entered the shrine. This manifested it's self in Mion and fed off her jelousy. The only question for me remains, why kill the young ones? They had nothing to do with it.

golthin

05-25-2006, 06:22 AM

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golthin said:
Well, this arc is quite different from the first one. We find who actually did the killings. I couldn't help feel sorry for Mion, she is possesed by a demon and it is forcing her to do all the killings. Sion is still alive, the reason he has not been killed is because Mion likes him. Rika and Satoko also were killed. At the end Keiichi ends in the hospital and Sion dies. The Demon Mion appears in the hospital to end her job, so we don't actually know if Keiichi dies or live. The fact that the Demon awoke because Keiichi gave Rena a doll instead of Mion is a very interesting fact.

This end was not as shocking but very Sad in IMHO.

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That doesn't make sense. I think the doll may have started things but didn't manafest anything, if it had Rena would have gotten the full brunt of the problem, not Shion. 

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Mion Told Keiichi herself! Sion and Keiichi got in trouble because they went in the room. The young girls got in trouble because They were trying to protect Keiichi.

Nork22

05-27-2006, 09:21 PM

OK, watched it and the whole thing really teases you too much into making you believe one thing over another. Am I supposed to believe that there was an actual "Demon" that possesed 'Mion'? Since she has a Ogre tattoo on her back, I'm reminded of this certain thing that happen in Oni-Tensei, a hentai I know, where it's not really a "Demon" that took over, more like the deep psychological stress of being the sole heir to the Sonozaki's and witnessing many of the tortures made her the way she is.

Nevertheless, this was one great story arc that answered a few questions in the previous arc yet open up more questions. Bring on the next arc, Tatarigoroshi-hen. And damn, they didn't show the scene of Rika impaling her head on the knife in this arc. Yes, I'm sick. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

aquastar831

05-28-2006, 12:05 AM

I just finished watching this ep. I'm still getting confused between Mion and Shion. I think it's because of the puzzling theories that people keep formulating. Example is that people keep saying that Shion was psychotic too and that one is pretending to be the other. From what I saw was plain and simple. Shion is a victim like Keiichi, Rika, Satoko, and the others involved, and Mion is the villain again in this arc, and Rena is not evil this time.

I do like how they ended the arc. It's like a horror movie formula with the final twist you don't see coming and it leaves you in a sort of shock, wondering, "what the hell just happened?" with Mion hiding underneath Keiichi's bed, with the last thing you see is the hammer coming down

People mention that from this arc, we got some answers for the previous one. I'm not quite sure exactly what you guys mean. Can someone explain the link between the first two arcs? I thought they were meant to be completely different scenarios?

Let's see what happens in the next arc.

Shale

05-28-2006, 01:29 AM

According to people who've played the game, the only difference between the chapters is Keiichi's actions. So if Mion killed the "demoning" victims in this arc, she killed them in every arc. So as Keiichi gets involved in different aspects of the town and its past, the viewers keep finding out new information about the story as a whole.

Fencedude

05-28-2006, 08:11 AM

Haaahaaa...this episode broke my brain.

Jumbo

05-28-2006, 01:56 PM

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aquastar831 said:
People mention that from this arc, we got some answers for the previous one. I'm not quite sure exactly what you guys mean. Can someone explain the link between the first two arcs? I thought they were meant to be completely different scenarios?

Let's see what happens in the next arc.

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Technically I think the Meakashi-hen is suppoed to be the "answer-arc" for Watanagashi-hen.

I just finished the Onikakushi-hen (game version) yesterday and at the end, you get some bonus omake where they actually do a "wrap party" of sorts. (It almost plays out like the "Tips" in a way.)

Anyway each of the characters aside from Keiichi, who is already hard at work on the Watanagashi-hen scenario, (Rika blames his absence on the fact that he doesn't have a standing picture like the rest of the cast did.) come back to discuss their theories on Oyashiro-sama's curse or a human suspect.

From the sounds of things one of the basic set ups for Watanagashi was you kind of get to learn more about Oyashiro-sama and what kind of deity (?) he supposedly is. In Onikakushi we never really got any of the history on the folklore itself, mainly just the dam construction happenings. If that is how Watanagashi was supposed to play out then I think the anime did a pretty good job giving us that info. There may be connections you can draw elsewhere but this one seems to be the one of major importance to me.

I know it is kind of late but I would like to hear what everyone has to say after seeing these two chapters. Is it really Oyashiro-sama's curse/superstition come to life or is there a scientific route with this all being a human's actions? Which way are people leaning now?

something

05-28-2006, 06:33 PM

Goddddddddddamn this episode was so up and down and up and down some more, and what an ending it was. Keiichi was pretty damn naive to trust Mion so far after knowing the things she did. Who goes around saying "You're my best friend" after he kills two other friends of yours and imprisons/tortures another in some sick demonic dungeon? Going out at night to meet her (right before she stabbed him) was just the icing on the cake. God what a fool.

I can say I did not expect what happened at the very end. He was sitting there all that time talking to Oishi... and a psychopathic serial murderer was under his bed /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif Or... was Oishi in on it? >_> I mean, how could Mion fake her death for that long? Don't they have half competent forensic scientists in this place? Or even someone who can check a pulse? It just seems like she had to have some... help. And Oishi gave away far too easily that they were staking out Mion's house, which he knew would send Rena and Keiichi over there to check things out. Or maybe it's just the demonic power in her ::shrugs::

But the biggest surprise... no indication that Rena is dead. Of course, one can only assume she's next after Mion finishes off Keiichi, but still, there's nothing in the story that would validate that claim in any way, other than pure prediction.

Also: I guess the arcs won't all end with the scene that starts them. The baseball bat massacre did so for chapter one, but Rika's suicide (well, ok, it would have been more than a little induced by Mion) never appeared on screen again -- we just hear that her and Satoko's dead bodies end up in a well. The switch from confused horror to delight on Mion's face during that scene makes sense now though, if you interpret it as a struggle between normal Mion and her evil, demonic Mion.

Last thing: Shion's frightened screams upon seeing Mion were just too much for me. Goddamn, so creepy and disturbing and arrrrrrrrrrgh!

something

05-28-2006, 06:36 PM

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Nork22 said:
Am I supposed to believe that there was an actual "Demon" that possesed 'Mion'?

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Untagging since it's well past air date now that I'm getting around to talking, so I dont think I need spoilers anymore (subject line says ep 8 so it's safe I think)

Anyway, I guess that's where the deepest, most disturbing mystery of the whole series lies. Are we to believe that Oyashiro-sama drove people in chapter one to kill themselves, which Keiichi's bizarre suicide would imply? Are we to believe that Mion is actually possessed by a demon? That the inhabitants of the village have ogre/demon blood?

We definitely aren't going to get those answers, I think, because to do so would destroy the atmosphere of the series and turn it into a very different show.

Edit: Incidentally, I've discovered that the best thing to watch after the new episode of Higurashi is the new episode of Ouran =P It offsets the disturbing carnage quite well /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

golthin

05-28-2006, 07:02 PM

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Goddddddddddamn this episode was so up and down and up and down some more, and what an ending it was. Keiichi was pretty damn naive to trust Mion so far after knowing the things she did. Who goes around saying "You're my best friend" after he kills two other friends of yours and imprisons/tortures another in some sick demonic dungeon? Going out at night to meet her (right before she stabbed him) was just the icing on the cake. God what a fool.

I can say I did not expect what happened at the very end. He was sitting there all that time talking to Oishi... and a psychopathic serial murderer was under his bed /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif Or... was Oishi in on it? >_> I mean, how could Mion fake her death for that long? Don't they have half competent forensic scientists in this place? Or even someone who can check a pulse? It just seems like she had to have some... help. And Oishi gave away far too easily that they were staking out Mion's house, which he knew would send Rena and Keiichi over there to check things out. Or maybe it's just the demonic power in her ::shrugs::

But the biggest surprise... no indication that Rena is dead. Of course, one can only assume she's next after Mion finishes off Keiichi, but still, there's nothing in the story that would validate that claim in any way, other than pure prediction.

Also: I guess the arcs won't all end with the scene that starts them. The baseball bat massacre did so for chapter one, but Rika's suicide (well, ok, it would have been more than a little induced by Mion) never appeared on screen again -- we just hear that her and Satoko's dead bodies end up in a well. The switch from confused horror to delight on Mion's face during that scene makes sense now though, if you interpret it as a struggle between normal Mion and her evil, demonic Mion.

Last thing: Shion's frightened screams upon seeing Mion were just too much for me. Goddamn, so creepy and disturbing and arrrrrrrrrrgh!

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You are right about keiichi being a fool, more when Mion warned him not to meet her again, because the next time they met, she would be the demon possesing her corpse. Mion was alive when she took Keiichi in the dungeon, she was dead when she stabbed Keiichi and was also dead in the hospital room. FOOL! FOOL! The keiichi in the first arc had more common sense. The only reason Mion had not killed Keiichi and Rena was because the human part of her was keeping the demon from doing it, once Mion died and the demon took over all bets were off.

On a side note, yikes! Japanese has so many words for Demon!
Mi is a new character that I had not heard of before. I read the first chapter of the manga and I was able to see the character in Mion first name and it is similar to the more common character for demon "oni". WIth this there are 4
characters use for demon.

Nork22

05-28-2006, 08:02 PM

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golthin said:On a side note, yikes! Japanese has so many words for Demon!
Mi is a new character that I had not heard of before. I read the first chapter of the manga and I was able to see the character in Mion first name and it is similar to the more common character for demon "oni". WIth this there are 4
characters use for demon.

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At another forum that I can't mention /images/graemlins/wink.gif put up a TIPS from the game that details a bit about the use of the character oni (é¬¼) and how it's all connected to the village itself and the 3 families that control it. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Nork22

05-28-2006, 08:09 PM

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disarm said:Anyway, I guess that's where the deepest, most disturbing mystery of the whole series lies. Are we to believe that Oyashiro-sama drove people in chapter one to kill themselves, which Keiichi's bizarre suicide would imply? Are we to believe that Mion is actually possessed by a demon? That the inhabitants of the village have ogre/demon blood?

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No, no, yes. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

After this arc, I'm even more convince that K1 simply went paranoid in the previous arc. As for the Mion bit, I'm speculating that it was indeed her "Inner Demon" that made her the way she is, and not some kind of "possession". But if I take that into consideration, I'll pretty much be ignoring all the other facts about the mystery. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif /images/graemlins/knowital.gif

golthin

05-28-2006, 08:27 PM

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golthin said:On a side note, yikes! Japanese has so many words for Demon!
Mi is a new character that I had not heard of before. I read the first chapter of the manga and I was able to see the character in Mion first name and it is similar to the more common character for demon "oni". WIth this there are 4
characters use for demon.

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At another forum that I can't mention /images/graemlins/wink.gif put up a TIPS from the game that details a bit about the use of the character oni (é¬¼) and how it's all connected to the village itself and the 3 families that control it. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

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The characters are a little different, [é*…éŸ³] Mion which can be tranlated as Charming sound.

Nork22

05-28-2006, 08:58 PM

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Same with Akane (èŒœ) and Akane (è’).

btw, Akane is Shion & Mion's mother who was supposed to be the next in line, but was disowned by the head member family.

SnowfairyX

05-29-2006, 08:28 AM

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Jumbo said:
I know it is kind of late but I would like to hear what everyone has to say after seeing these two chapters. Is it really Oyashiro-sama's curse/superstition come to life or is there a scientific route with this all being a human's actions? Which way are people leaning now?

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I stubbornly refuse to believe that there isn't anything but a completely logical explanation for everything myself but after finishing the 2nd arc, the series seems to be starting to lean slightly more towards a more "mystical" explanation which is definitely not what I would prefer. Of course, I still think everything so far is still vague enough that it could go either way.

Anyway, I thought the 2nd arc was still great but not quite as good as the first. One thing I really disliked in the 2nd arc was the character interaction between Keiichi and Mion in the last episode (8th). So after she admits to torturing and killing all those people (especially the two girls, Satoko and Rika /images/graemlins/depresse.gif), Keiichi still acts as cool as a cucumber around her and still has the gall to say that they're still friends? /images/graemlins/anger200.gif He sort of reminds me of a particular person in another series but I'm not sure who's worse.

I'll add a few more comments later on when I have the time.

Shale

05-30-2006, 06:18 PM

Not a spoiler as such, but checking these links will solve one of the show's mysteries for you - don't click if you want to figure everything out yourself!

http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=episode59hq.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=episode67ah.jpg

golthin

05-30-2006, 08:13 PM

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Shale said:
Not a spoiler as such, but checking these links will solve one of the show's mysteries for you - don't click if you want to figure everything out yourself!

http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=episode59hq.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=episode67ah.jpg

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So they take turns going to school or Sion is just a replacement for Mion when she is busy with her "duties"?

Shale

05-30-2006, 08:17 PM

I'd imagine it's a combination of stuff - switching for fun, Shion covering for Mion, and one or both deciding to dress up as the other without her knowledge for fun and/or devious plans (e.g. Mion pretending to be Shion when she brought Keiichi dinner).

Fencedude

05-30-2006, 08:23 PM

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Shale said:
Not a spoiler as such, but checking these links will solve one of the show's mysteries for you - don't click if you want to figure everything out yourself!

http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=episode59hq.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=episode67ah.jpg

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*blinks*

Ok, maybe its just because I'm tired, but I'm not seeing how those images solve that particular mystery.

Nork22

05-30-2006, 08:24 PM

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Fencedude said:Ok, maybe its just because I'm tired, but I'm not seeing how those images solve that particular mystery.

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Bags. The notice which hands the bags are on. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

golthin

05-30-2006, 08:25 PM

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Fencedude said:
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Shale said:
Not a spoiler as such, but checking these links will solve one of the show's mysteries for you - don't click if you want to figure everything out yourself!

http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=episode59hq.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=episode67ah.jpg

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*blinks*

Ok, maybe its just because I'm tired, but I'm not seeing how those images solve that particular mystery.

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check the bookbag!

Fencedude

05-30-2006, 08:27 PM

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Fencedude said:Ok, maybe its just because I'm tired, but I'm not seeing how those images solve that particular mystery.

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Bags. The notice which hands the bags are on. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Gahhh

Well, thats interesting.

Do we have any supporting evidence though? THats very...iffy from just a couple of images.

Nork22

05-30-2006, 08:27 PM

Still it makes me wonder, do the twins really hate each other?

Nork22

05-30-2006, 08:28 PM

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Fencedude said:Do we have any supporting evidence though? THats very...iffy from just a couple of images.

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Not really. Though I'll put it into consideration whenever I go back and rewatch it to see if the theory holds up. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Shale

05-30-2006, 08:39 PM

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Nork22 said:
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Fencedude said:Ok, maybe its just because I'm tired, but I'm not seeing how those images solve that particular mystery.

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Bags. The notice which hands the bags are on. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Gahhh

Well, thats interesting.

Do we have any supporting evidence though? THats very...iffy from just a couple of images.

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Compare the waitress scene with the one where "Shion" brings Keiichi his dinner. I think we can all agree that it's a different twin in the second scene, and she goes from right-handed in the first to left-handed in the second.

golthin

05-31-2006, 11:58 AM

Well, in this episode the twins appeared again. It has been brought to our attention a fact about the difference between the twins. This time they seem to definetely have switched roles for some reason. Definetely one is right handed and another is left handed. From the previous arc the one that commited the crimes was right handed and was supposed to be Mion. In episode 9, Shion is right handed as we see her use her right hand and the animators pay special attention to this detail. We also see that "shion" acted possesed when Keiichi mentioned that Satoko's brother Transfered. Later on the way back from school, Rena, Keiichi and "mion" walk back together, Keiichi asks about Satoko's brother again and the girls tell keiichi that he ran away, but Rena starts blabbering her mouth and Mion has to quiet her with a slap, using her left hand. The animators again pay a little extra emphasis on the hand. So in this episode the possesed sister[right hand] is acting as shion and the other twin is acting as Mion.

XenoSaber

05-31-2006, 05:13 PM

You guys are starting to make my brain ache. /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif

golthin

05-31-2006, 06:14 PM

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You guys are starting to make my brain ache. /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif

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It is not "us", it is the makers of the show l /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

redxxii

05-31-2006, 11:09 PM

I've seen up to episode 5 of this one... and it's pretty much blown my mind. I've got to see more of this one.

Shale

06-13-2006, 12:36 AM

Lost of heavy stuff in this one.

No way it's as simple as Satoko's uncle abusing her. She looked too weird getting out of the car with the doctor, and that story about her wanting to endure it is way too pat. Plus there were multiple incidents of her being possibly abused before, and the episode cuts off after we only hear the one? Coincidence...yeah, right.

Keiichi's conversation with Mion was an interesting conflict with the second arc, except that she was right-handed. Shion must've been panicing something fierce when she had to respond to that.

Too many choices as to whose body washed up in that river in episode 9. Satoko's uncle? The doctor? Satoshi? The photographer whose name I can never remember? I'd wager on at least two of them dying within the chapter (not counting Satoshi if he really did die before it started), and judging from this episode they've all got it coming (the photographer just for the usual reasons, though).

Oishi looks like he's just trying to puzzle everything out. He probably suspects both Satoko's family of abuse and her of killing Satoshi. And her friends of covering for her on both counts. And everybody else in the town of general untrustworthiness. As he should.

Can't wait for 11.

Edible

06-13-2006, 09:34 AM

Have I mentioned that Oishi is the man lately?

jlazar

06-13-2006, 11:28 AM

Well... I have to say I'm starting to lose interest. 3 resets so far and I'm unable to really get into the continuing story. If it was just a 13 episode series, I'd stick it out, but 26 is along haul.

Maybe the shock value of the initial killings has worn off and I find myself uninterested in who gets killed next and how.

golthin

06-13-2006, 01:18 PM

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Shale said:
Lost of heavy stuff in this one.

No way it's as simple as Satoko's uncle abusing her. She looked too weird getting out of the car with the doctor, and that story about her wanting to endure it is way too pat. Plus there were multiple incidents of her being possibly abused before, and the episode cuts off after we only hear the one? Coincidence...yeah, right.

Keiichi's conversation with Mion was an interesting conflict with the second arc, except that she was right-handed. Shion must've been panicing something fierce when she had to respond to that.

Too many choices as to whose body washed up in that river in episode 9. Satoko's uncle? The doctor? Satoshi? The photographer whose name I can never remember? I'd wager on at least two of them dying within the chapter (not counting Satoshi if he really did die before it started), and judging from this episode they've all got it coming (the photographer just for the usual reasons, though).

Oishi looks like he's just trying to puzzle everything out. He probably suspects both Satoko's family of abuse and her of killing Satoshi. And her friends of covering for her on both counts. And everybody else in the town of general untrustworthiness. As he should.

Can't wait for 11.

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I hope they can redeem themselve with episode 11 and 12 because so far episodes 9 and 10 in this arc have not had the same impact at the previous 2 arcs.

Dagger

06-13-2006, 05:31 PM

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Jim Lazar said:
Well... I have to say I'm starting to lose interest. 3 resets so far and I'm unable to really get into the continuing story. If it was just a 13 episode series, I'd stick it out, but 26 is along haul.

Maybe the shock value of the initial killings has worn off and I find myself uninterested in who gets killed next and how.

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TBH, I feel that the show has kind of spiralled downhill (and not really in a good way) since the end of the first arc. I really, really wish that JC Staff had given it a bigger and/or more consistent budget--there are moments when it's so obvious how much better a particular scene would've been if they'd animated the movements more thoroughly and precisely.

In my case, it doesn't help that once you've seen the manga artwork--which absolutely nails those high-intensity emotional moments--there's no going back.

moyism

06-13-2006, 07:21 PM

All I have to say is WTF... in a good way /images/graemlins/wink.gif

I never expected K1 to be so proactive to actually become a murder. Dddddaaammmnnnn

golthin

06-13-2006, 07:40 PM

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All I have to say is WTF... in a good way /images/graemlins/wink.gif

I never expected K1 to be so proactive to actually become a murder. Dddddaaammmnnnn

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Well, he has not become a Murderer
He was just going by what people told him.

SnowfairyX

06-14-2006, 07:39 AM

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I hope they can redeem themselve with episode 11 and 12 because so far episodes 9 and 10 in this arc have not had the same impact at the previous 2 arcs.

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Actually I thought that this third arc starts off excellently myself and with the end of episode 10 that I recently finished watching, so far it looks to me that the quality of this arc might possibly match the first which I thought was brilliant. The 2nd arc overall was noticeably weaker to the first and I feel that the third arc starts off on a much better foot than the former in my opinion. And that cliffhanger at the end of episode 10 was so evil. Poor Satoko /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif. I absolutely cannot wait for the next episode.

Now for the first two episodes of this arc, I made some observations. First, Keiichi's parents leave for Tokyo before the festival this time and tell Keiichi to his face this time instead of a phone call.

This one is obvious, but I'm pretty sure we find out exactly who the manager/director is that Rena and Mion were talking about with Keiichi in the last episode of the first arc moments before they are killed by him. The show just simply spells out to the viewer in the third arc that the doctor is also the manager of the boy's baseball team. I think that Rena and Mion wanted Keiichi to meet him in order to possibly recruit him to the boy's baseball team? Oh yeah, and I just want to mention that this guy is pretty creepy for admitting that he's pedo for Satoko.

In the 9th episode when Rena goes into crazy mode, she acts in a very similar, odd way that Mion/Shion (?) does in that ladder scene of the 2nd arc. I don't know if there's any significance to that yet but I notice that they talk about the Oyashiro curse the same way and with a similar awkward expression.

Nork22

06-14-2006, 08:49 AM

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Maybe the shock value of the initial killings has worn off and I find myself uninterested in who gets killed next and how.

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I think you miss the point of this show. It's not about who gets killed, it's about us viewers trying to solve the mysteries of the village and the events that occured. And whether if it was the work of men that shaped the tragedies to come, or if it was of an otherworldly being that manipulates the people of a small village.

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TBH, I feel that the show has kind of spiralled downhill (and not really in a good way) since the end of the first arc. I really, really wish that JC Staff had given it a bigger and/or more consistent budget--there are moments when it's so obvious how much better a particular scene would've been if they'd animated the movements more thoroughly and precisely.

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It's animated by Studio Deen, not JC Staff. Studio Deen isn't exactly the A-Class animation studio like JC Staff or KyoAni.

But back onto the the episode, I though it was a rather good show piece on Satoko. She isn't well featured in the last 2 arcs, and this one really shows off how tragic her life has been. I nearly shed a tear at the end of the episode (but Mika Kanai's crying needs a bit more work. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif ). Now I'm curious what's going to happen with Satoko and her uncle, the real truth behind Satoshi's disappearance, what Maid-lolicon-Irie is really hiding and how it ties in with Rena's fanaticism with LORD OYASHIRO!!!

Dagger

06-14-2006, 02:40 PM

Argh, my bad (although I wouldn't put JC Staff in the same category as KyoAni either way, heh). I often get JC Staff & Studio Deen mixed up, for some reason...

Well, hopefully F/SN will make them gobs of money so they can put a little extra back into Higurashi. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

golthin

06-14-2006, 07:31 PM

WOW! They really surprised me with this episode. I was not expecting this to happen at all. Keiich decides to take matters on his own hands and during the festival he killed Satoko's uncle with Satochi's bat. He burried the body in the forest and dropped the bat and the guy's scooter in a pond. He then on his way back get picked by the blonde lady that disppeared in the two previous arcs, as he was very tired from digging two graves.

Jadawin

06-16-2006, 07:55 PM

I sure didnt expect him to really do it! He coldheartedly planned and commited a murder! Once again, he killed someone with Satoshis bat, but this time he was (more or less) fully aware of what he was doing. Or so it seems. Maybe the oncle was innocent, who knows.

I wouldnt be surprised if she used the first one for her own purpose.

jlazar

06-16-2006, 09:07 PM

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I wouldnt be surprised if she used the first one for her own purpose.

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And I have to wonder what's in the trunk of her car. Or who?

I was ready to drop this series, but this episode pulled me back in. Be intersting to see what happens next time.

golthin

06-16-2006, 09:12 PM

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I wouldnt be surprised if she used the first one for her own purpose.

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And I have to wonder what's in the trunk of her car. Or who?

I was ready to drop this series, but this episode pulled me back in. Be intersting to see what happens next time.

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It seems the formula for each arc is that the first two episodes give you back story and set you up and the last two episodes hit you on the head like a sledgehammer.

XenoSaber

06-17-2006, 12:26 AM

I don't know, I'm starting to think the Uncle may be the lesser or two evils. The way she freaked out thinking about her brother makes me think he's what she is really scared of.

ayareiko

06-17-2006, 10:53 AM

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XenoSaber said:
I don't know, I'm starting to think the Uncle may be the lesser or two evils. The way she freaked out thinking about her brother makes me think he's what she is really scared of.

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I also think the body we saw at the beginning of this arc was Satoshi's. I wonder if Satoko had anything to do with that? It may explain her reaction to K1 if she was a witness to Satoshi's "punishment".

Nork22

06-17-2006, 07:02 PM

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I also think the body we saw at the beginning of this arc was Satoshi's. I wonder if Satoko had anything to do with that? It may explain her reaction to K1 if she was a witness to Satoshi's "punishment".

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It's not Satoshi's corpse you saw. Since I can't link this to the TIPs at another board:
This is a conversation between Oishi and a couple of officers:

A: "....By the way Oishi-san, did you find out anything?"
B: "What's this about. ...oh, you're talking about the mutilated corpse that was found in the river. Did you find any leads on it?"
Oishi: "A little bit. Can you do a follow up?"
A: "As always! So what's the details on the victim?"
Oishi: "She went by the name of Mamiya Rina. Real name was Ritsuko."
Kuma: "She worked at a club called Blue Mermaid in Shishibone Flower Road."
B: "Sigh, that's a tough one. That's the one that's owned by one of the lieutenants of the Sonozakis ain't it?"
A: "...Sonozaki...Damn! That's falls under Type-S. ...This case is gonna be rough."
Kuma: "According to rumors, she got into huge trouble by using their money and drugs. Obviously, it was on a scale that couldn't be taken as a joke."
B: "She poked her hand into their money huh. Seems like there's a guy behind her. A girl can't do all of this on her own."
Oishi: "Unfufu! He's probably dead too already. It's just that we haven't found his body yet."
Kuma: "Oh yes, Oishi-san. The girl's pimp-daddy still seems to be alive."
Oishi: "He is? Well then, I guess he'll die very soon. I love how this system works - the pests exterminates the pests."
Kuma: "This pimp-daddy of her, it's that guy - Houjou Teppei"
B: "...Houjou? Who's he?"
A: "...Houjou Teppei. Remember the housewife that was brutally beaten to death last year at Hinamizawa? It's her husband. ....I heard he went into hiding after that incident. ....So he crawled under his bitch huh. "
B: "...This starts to smell more and more like Sonozaki involvement."
Oishi: "So where's this boyfriend of hers?"
Kuma: "He was living with her at her apartment. However, he seems to have thought that she left him so he's now going from one place to another for a new home to leech off of."

golthin

06-18-2006, 02:24 PM

Wow, is that from the manga?

Nork22

06-18-2006, 04:29 PM

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golthin said:
Wow, is that from the manga?

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No, it's a 'TIPS'.

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From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higurashi_no_naku_koro_ni)
The game also utilizes an intermission where the player obtain several "TIPS." These "TIPS" allows the player to read information that may or may not be useful in solving the mystery. For example, one of the "TIPS" can be as simple as "this is a small village; children who go to this school are combined into one classroom regardless of what grade or year they are in." On the other hand, they can also provide valuable hints, such as being able to read the excerpts of the newspaper articles regarding the murders that occurred in Hinamizawa.

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Shale

06-19-2006, 01:26 AM

Holy crap.

Never expected Keiichi to just go off and commit a murder like that, and the murder scene itself was pretty damn effective. Seems likely that the body in the first episode was the uncle's, since where Keiichi put it there's a good chance the rain could wash it into the water below. Which brings me to my main reaction to the episode, which was that even with everything else that happened, it's nice to know that Keiichi still has that comfortable, familiar idiocy. Nice attention to detail, genius.

I still don't think the uncle was the abuser. More trauma that way, among other things.

Takano's appearance at the end was GREAT. Can't wait to see who or what is taking up space in her trunk.

Nork22

06-19-2006, 07:16 AM

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Seems likely that the body in the first episode was the uncle's, since where Keiichi put it there's a good chance the rain could wash it into the water below.

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If you read the TIPS I posted up, it's a fact that the body is neither Satoshi or the uncle.

SnowfairyX

06-19-2006, 08:11 AM

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Shale said:
Seems likely that the body in the first episode was the uncle's, since where Keiichi put it there's a good chance the rain could wash it into the water below.

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If you read the TIPS I posted up, it's a fact that the body is neither Satoshi or the uncle.

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I also wouldn't think it's the uncle either because the corpse had all those nails in it's finger joints which Keiichi did not do and would not make any sense for him to do so anyway. It also seems pretty obvious that the dead person was slowly tortured while he/she was alive based on information from the previous arc, of which the uncle was not. And as for the TIPS, I'm aware that they're hints for the game but since I don't think that they're technically meant for the anime, I choose to ignore and disregard them myself.

About the episode, at this point I'm almost certain that Keiichi really screwed up big time. I just have this very bad feeling that the uncle, while most likely not completely innocent, might not have done all those bad things to Satoko as percieved by Keiichi. I'm also pretty sure that there is a lot of manipulation going on, I'm just not sure whom it may be pulling the strings. Maybe it's one person, maybe more than one. I just know that I absolutely cannot trust anyone in this series, even the lolis. And I just want to mention that I loved how this episode ended as well. When Takano was speaking with Keiichi about something and he didn't hear it the first time, and then when she repeated herself and asked, "Was the corpse buried properly?" right before the episode ended, I was like, "Oh sh*t!" /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Nork22

06-19-2006, 09:22 AM

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And as for the TIPS, I'm aware that they're hints for the game but since I don't think that they're technically meant for the anime, I choose to ignore and disregard them myself.

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Though I think without the TIPS to complement the anime or manga, you'll still be guessing till no end. Though from what I've been told, the TIPS themselves are a double edge sword in that some of them can lead you to believe one thing over another.

SnowfairyX

06-19-2006, 09:42 AM

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SnowfairyX said:
And as for the TIPS, I'm aware that they're hints for the game but since I don't think that they're technically meant for the anime, I choose to ignore and disregard them myself.

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Though I think without the TIPS to complement the anime or manga, you'll still be guessing till no end.

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And that's one of the reasons why I'm loving this anime so far /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif. I just love being confused as all hell and hope that only some of the mysteries get solved in the end so that I can endlessly speculate about the rest /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif.

golthin

06-20-2006, 07:12 PM

Episode 12 will rock your mind! i was going insane at the same time as Keiichi. This is the first arc with more than 4 episodes. I expected that keiichi was going to make the biggest mistake a criminal can do, go back to the scene of the crime.

SnowfairyX

06-20-2006, 10:58 PM

Wait, you mean this arc doesn't end at episode 12? If that's the case, do you know how exactly how many episodes it consists of?

Nork22

06-20-2006, 11:25 PM

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Wait, you mean this arc doesn't end at episode 12? If that's the case, do you know how exactly how many episodes it consists of?

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5 as it was stated it the official website. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Everyone knew that K1's murder isn't the end of the arc yet and the best is yet to come. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

SnowfairyX

06-21-2006, 12:01 AM

Well, I would have checked the official site myself if only I could read japanese.

Anyway, it's interesting that this chapter in the anime is slightly longer than the previous chapters while in the game, from the information that I've gathered, the chapter was originally slightly shorter instead. This arc seemed to have went by pretty fast for me though, so I think an extra episode would do it some good.

I can't comment on this episode currently as I haven't watched it yet.

Nork22

06-25-2006, 05:12 PM

My jaw drop as I was watching it. What the heck really happen in the last episode then?!

jlazar

06-25-2006, 05:27 PM

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My jaw drop as I was watching it. What the heck really happen in the last episode then?!

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Well, I almost had the impression a reset happened (making him keep his memory, but everyone else had memories of the festival and making the body disappear). But it's not really what we've seen before, so who knows...

something

06-25-2006, 07:14 PM

...So, I waited to watch 9-12 together to have one week of nightmares and looking over my shoulder at night instead of four. A friend (on the other side of the country) and I scheduled our watching so that we'd watch at the same time, and we even synched up occasionally with the timer into the ep. It was silly and elaborate but amusing.

So we watched. Episode 12 ended.

...But the arc didn't.

DAMNIT. I fail at life.

I'll save comment on the arc as a whole until after the next episode.

Edible

06-29-2006, 12:07 AM

What... what the HELL. o_o

Satoko's arc is now the most fucked-up one there is, beyond question.

I REALLY didn't expect that...

golthin

06-29-2006, 04:02 AM

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Edible said:
What... what the HELL. o_o

Satoko's arc is now the most fucked-up one there is, beyond question.

I REALLY didn't expect that...

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HA! I didn't post anything before because I didn't know what to say. /images/graemlins/knowital.gif /images/graemlins/knowital.gif It is not over yet.

Chepin

07-11-2006, 11:18 PM

I just finished watching the first four eps. Holy crap, I don't think I've ever watched a creepier show. Paranoia Agent and Vampire Princess Miyu have nothing on this one. I don't know what the hell is going on in that town, but there's no other show in the past year that I've wanted to keep on watching more.

Nork22

07-12-2006, 06:14 AM

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mustang said:
I just finished watching the first four eps. Holy crap, I don't think I've ever watched a creepier show. Paranoia Agent and Vampire Princess Miyu have nothing on this one. I don't know what the hell is going on in that town, but there's no other show in the past year that I've wanted to keep on watching more.

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Ex......cellent.... /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
Watch out for the third story arc. Biggest 'WTF' moment no other anime can match.

SnowfairyX

07-12-2006, 12:22 PM

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Nork22 said:
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mustang said:
I just finished watching the first four eps. Holy crap, I don't think I've ever watched a creepier show. Paranoia Agent and Vampire Princess Miyu have nothing on this one. I don't know what the hell is going on in that town, but there's no other show in the past year that I've wanted to keep on watching more.

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Ex......cellent.... /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
Watch out for the third story arc. Biggest 'WTF' moment no other anime can match.

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And what would that be, exactly (I think there are a few)? I'm assuming that it was probably the ending for the arc but for me, it was in the last episode when Keiichi finds Rika's dead body next to the shrine. It's probably not exactly a "WTF!?!" moment but more like a, "Holy sh*t!!! That did not happen!!! ", moment though /images/graemlins/depresse.gif. The overall effect with the visuals (body partially covered up by shadows, ravens circling over it), the music and Keiichi's reaction to it was easily the most chilling I've ever seen in an anime and even many of the live-action horror movies that I've seen. And the one's that I've seen recently in the past few months, frankly got their asses handed to them by a cartoon /images/graemlins/icon_rolleyes.gif.

Anyway, I thought this arc was great and liked it second to the first one. It was more depressing in comparison to the last two but adds more hints while at the same time, adding even more mystery which is enough to turn my brain into mush /images/graemlins/stunned1.gif.

Still waiting for the next episode to turn up which should come any day now... hopefully.

golthin

07-12-2006, 04:00 PM

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SnowfairyX said:
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Nork22 said:
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mustang said:
I just finished watching the first four eps. Holy crap, I don't think I've ever watched a creepier show. Paranoia Agent and Vampire Princess Miyu have nothing on this one. I don't know what the hell is going on in that town, but there's no other show in the past year that I've wanted to keep on watching more.

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Ex......cellent.... /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
Watch out for the third story arc. Biggest 'WTF' moment no other anime can match.

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And what would that be, exactly (I think there are a few)? I'm assuming that it was probably the ending for the arc but for me, it was in the last episode when Keiichi finds Rika's dead body next to the shrine. It's probably not exactly a "WTF!?!" moment but more like a, "Holy sh*t!!! That did not happen!!! ", moment though /images/graemlins/depresse.gif. The overall effect with the visuals (body partially covered up by shadows, ravens circling over it), the music and Keiichi's reaction to it was easily the most chilling I've ever seen in an anime and even many of the live-action horror movies that I've seen. And the one's that I've seen recently in the past few months, frankly got their asses handed to them by a cartoon /images/graemlins/icon_rolleyes.gif.

Anyway, I thought this arc was great and liked it second to the first one. It was more depressing in comparison to the last two but adds more hints while at the same time, adding even more mystery which is enough to turn my brain into mush /images/graemlins/stunned1.gif.

Still waiting for the next episode to turn up which should come any day now... hopefully.

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That would be the 3rd arc. there is 2 arcs with 4 episodes and one arc with 5 episodes, I am not sure if the 3rd arc ended at the episode 13 or if it has gone as far as episode 15, or if it is still continuing. episode 14 and 15 felt to me like they were continuing the 3rd arc.

Fencedude

07-12-2006, 04:43 PM

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golthin said:

That would be the 4th arc. there is 3 arcs with 3 episodes so far, I am not sure if the 4th arc ended at the episode 13 or if it has gone as far as episode 15, or if it is still continuing. episode 14 and 15 felt to me like they were continuing the 4th arc.

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Gah?

Onikakushi-hen: 1~4
Watanagashi-hen: 5~8
Tatarigoroshi-hen: 9~13

Nork22

07-12-2006, 06:02 PM

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Fencedude said:
Onikakushi-hen: 1~4
Watanagashi-hen: 5~8
Tatarigoroshi-hen: 9~13

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And Himatsubushi-hen: 14~15

Nork22

07-12-2006, 06:04 PM

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SnowfairyX said:
And what would that be, exactly (I think there are a few)?

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For me, that would be the day after he killed Satoko's uncle, and everyone claiming, K1 was at the festival

SnowfairyX

07-18-2006, 01:18 PM

Episode 15 should already be out by now, but I'll just make a few comments on the 14th episode first since no one else has commented on it yet, at least for this thread.

This episode begins with the new arc, "Himatsubushi~hen" (The Time Wasting Chapter). This episode/arc is interesting because unlike the previous arcs this takes place in the past (approximately 4-5 years ago) rather than in the present so this arc is kind of like a "flashback" arc or something. Also, a different character (Akasaka Mamoru) takes the main role that Keiichi has played in all the other arcs. This is probably due to laziness in character design shares a very striking physical resemblance to Keiichi, but older.

The episode starts off interestingly enough but rather in a much less "freaky" way as in the last three arcs. One thing I noticed and that I'm pretty sure that others may have too is that the two guys in the van at the beginning of the episode are dressed up just like those guys that were chasing Keiichi around in the first arc. I assumed that there was a slight possibility that Keiichi might have been imagining them in the first arc, since that was the only arc that they had made their appearance in and were completely non-existant in the next two, until now. But now, I'm much more certain that these guys existed and that the guys in the van and the guys that were chasing after Keiichi in the first arc are related.

As was mentioned in a different thread, Rika was really cute in this episode /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif. Those cute sounds she makes are just really adorable. Anyway, there was one point in the episode that didn't quite click with me though, involving Rika. When she went into her "Oyashiro-mode" for the first time in the episode, I had mixed feelings about it. If it was meant to be creepy or anything, it wasn't. It just happened almost all of a sudden from out of nowhere and overall, the effect just seemed to have been kind of forced. Also, for the people like me who assume that there is a logical explanation for things, it's just gotten a tad harder to explain it from that point of view. It's definitely mysterious though and something else to think about.

There's lots of other things that ocurred in this episode as well that makes it interesting, but I'll stop here. I'll catch the 15th episode probably later tonight. (Minor spoilers) And that should conclude this very short two episode arc.

Nork22

07-18-2006, 09:19 PM

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SnowfairyX said:
As was mentioned in a different thread, Rika was really cute in this episode /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif. Those cute sounds she makes are just really adorable. Anyway, there was one point in the episode that didn't quite click with me though, involving Rika. When she went into her "Oyashiro-mode" for the first time in the episode, I had mixed feelings about it. If it was meant to be creepy or anything, it wasn't. It just happened almost all of a sudden from out of nowhere and overall, the effect just seemed to have been kind of forced. Also, for the people like me who assume that there is a logical explanation for things, it's just gotten a tad harder to explain it from that point of view. It's definitely mysterious though and something else to think about.

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I'll tell you this now, Oyashiro-sama is not an evil god. After watching episode 15, during a flashback at the end of the episode where Asakasa meets Oishi again after the Hinamizawa disaster, he tells Oishi that Rika/Oyashiro was rather sad that the events will unfold and she can't stop it by herself. And finally she said that even when everything were to pass, she really doesn't want to die.

golthin

07-18-2006, 10:39 PM

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Nork22 said:
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SnowfairyX said:
As was mentioned in a different thread, Rika was really cute in this episode /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif. Those cute sounds she makes are just really adorable. Anyway, there was one point in the episode that didn't quite click with me though, involving Rika. When she went into her "Oyashiro-mode" for the first time in the episode, I had mixed feelings about it. If it was meant to be creepy or anything, it wasn't. It just happened almost all of a sudden from out of nowhere and overall, the effect just seemed to have been kind of forced. Also, for the people like me who assume that there is a logical explanation for things, it's just gotten a tad harder to explain it from that point of view. It's definitely mysterious though and something else to think about.

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I'll tell you this now, Oyashiro-sama is not an evil god. After watching episode 15, during a flashback at the end of the episode where Asakasa meets Oishi again after the Hinamizawa disaster, he tells Oishi that Rika/Oyashiro was rather sad that the events will unfold and she can't stop it by herself. And finally she said that even when everything were to pass, she really doesn't want to die.

[/ QUOTE ]Most deities are not evil, but their are vengeful when disobeyed.

Kris Z

07-19-2006, 12:09 AM

I have a theory about Oyashiro-Sama and it may be a little far fetched so hear me out.

We all know that Rika is the Physical Reincarnation of Oyashiro. When Rika tells him in the extended flashback in Oyashiro mode she tells him all the deaths that will happen. That she (as Oyashiro) wants to live a good life and be happy. My theory is that Oyashiro is a god who just wants peace and happiness.

My theory is farfetched, but maybe it may be pointing in the right direction. Oyashiro is a kind god who watches over it's beloved Hinamizawa, but when something upsets the balance, Oyashiro gets angry. The main cataylst for that is the people who get murdered.

-The dam construction worker dies to ensure that Hinamizawa will never ever be Flooded Again.
-Satoko's parents get killed because they were in Cahoots with the dam construction
-Rika's parents die because they are afraid of Oyashiro and according to the Translated TIPS they first accepted it, but later on they grew weary of Rika as Oyashiro's curse
-Satoko's Auntie get's killed by Satoshi, making Satoko sad, so Satoshi get's Watanagashied.
-Satoko climbs in Oyashiro's shrine and destroys a part of it, so Rika get's punished. As Oyashiro she takes her vengance on Satoko by Killing everyone she loves.
-Keichi get's killed in the first story arc because he goes insane and it spoils the happiness that Oyashiro once had, so he gets eradicated.
-Keichi get's killed in the second story arc because he made Mion sad, and that triggered her demon. It was also because they violated the Shrine of Oyashrio-Sama.
-Tomitake dies in the first two arcs because he is an outsider that is actually investingating Oyashiro's curse, but uses the guise of Photography to mask it like Akasaka.
-Rena goes crazy being possessed by Oyashiro's curse because Rika want's the entire group together, she wants to be happy with her friends Rena comes back.

Basically I think all the events are a combination of the Sonozaki Clan terrorising the villiagers to keep their power as supposed decendants from Oyashiro, it is also Oyashiro itself reincarnated through Rika that wants to live a happy life, but never does because of such events getting in it's way. 

I dunno, the answer arcs will help much more. I will say one thing though, Episode 15 gave me chills down my spine.

golthin

07-19-2006, 12:51 AM

Well, this new arc shows us the scheme that Shion and Mion had exchanging places. This arc also will show what happened with Satoshi, Episode 16 is title "first love", Shion falls in love with Sotoshi and get jealous and angry at Satoko, and bullies her thus getting on Satoshi's bad side.

Nork22

07-19-2006, 06:33 AM

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Anony_mous said:
I dunno, the answer arcs will help much more. I will say one thing though, Episode 15 gave me chills down my spine.

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Here me out on this theory I had since I sat down and thought about what Rika said in episode 15.

If Rika never did die, like what might have happen in Onikakushi-hen, I don't believe there will be the disaster like that occured in Tatarigoroshi. In fact, if you think into things, when Mion/Shion died along with Rika in Watanagashi-hen, the disaster didn't occur as well. And coincidence still, Mion was killed in Onikakushi-hen. Is there any connection to it?

golthin

08-01-2006, 09:48 PM

Wow! This is back to the basics. This arc is told from Shion's point of view. We see how Shion met Satoshi and what happened one year before Keiichi arrived to town.
How Shion tries not to forget about Satoshi, even though she feels happy when she is around Keiichi, she understand that Mion likes Keiichi. Episode 17 was a very powerful episode. Episode 18 was kind of scary at the end, I can't wait for episode 19.

edit:
I forgot to comment on something that happens in episode 18.
What is Shion thinking? I can't believe she is staying over at the Onibaba's house after what they did to her. I would stay away from those people. Naive Naive! The only way I can explain why she is still haging around is because she is hoping that Satoshi comes back. /images/graemlins/relief1.gif /images/graemlins/icon_rolleyes.gif

Nork22

08-02-2006, 06:17 AM

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golthin said:
Wow! This is back to the basics. This arc is told from Shion's point of view. We see how Shion met Satoshi and what happened one year before Keiichi arrived to town.
How Shion tries not to forget about Satoshi, even though she feels happy when she is around Keiichi, she understand that Mion likes Keiichi. Episode 17 was a very powerful episode. Episode 18 was kind of scary at the end, I can't wait for episode 19.

edit:
I forgot to comment on something that happens in episode 18.
What is Shion thinking? I can't believe she is staying over at the Onibaba's house after what they did to her. I would stay away from those people. Naive Naive! The only way I can explain why she is still haging around is because she is hoping that Satoshi comes back. /images/graemlins/relief1.gif /images/graemlins/icon_rolleyes.gif

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If anything, episode 17 has the best squirmish moment in anime history.

Haven't watch episode 18 yet, but I'm guessing Shion staying at the household has something more to do with seeing how Mion is like in the presence of Oryou so she can basically fool the whole lot of us. /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif

Isuzu Inugami

08-02-2006, 09:21 AM

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golthin said:
Episode 12 will rock your mind! i was going insane at the same time as Keiichi. This is the first arc with more than 4 episodes. I expected that keiichi was going to make the biggest mistake a criminal can do, go back to the scene of the crime.

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(Yeah, I'm way behind all youse guys.)

So, all the girls take such care to set Keichi up with an alibi, and he just freaks out. Stupid, stupid Keichi! And then he blabs to the doctor and goes to check on the body! He's not using his head one bit.

Oh, this show is so much fun! Onwards to ep 13!

golthin

08-02-2006, 11:00 AM

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Shimauma said:
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golthin said:
Episode 12 will rock your mind! i was going insane at the same time as Keiichi. This is the first arc with more than 4 episodes. I expected that keiichi was going to make the biggest mistake a criminal can do, go back to the scene of the crime.

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(Yeah, I'm way behind all youse guys.)

So, all the girls take such care to set Keichi up with an alibi, and he just freaks out. Stupid, stupid Keichi! And then he blabs to the doctor and goes to check on the body! He's not using his head one bit.

Oh, this show is so much fun! Onwards to ep 13!

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I predicted Keiichi's action for the next episode /images/graemlins/happy.gif.
Remember guys, if you make a crime, NEVER go back to the scene of the crime, no matter how much think you forgot something /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

SnowfairyX

08-05-2006, 01:03 PM

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Nork22 said:
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golthin said:
Wow! This is back to the basics. This arc is told from Shion's point of view. We see how Shion met Satoshi and what happened one year before Keiichi arrived to town.
How Shion tries not to forget about Satoshi, even though she feels happy when she is around Keiichi, she understand that Mion likes Keiichi. Episode 17 was a very powerful episode. Episode 18 was kind of scary at the end, I can't wait for episode 19.

edit:
I forgot to comment on something that happens in episode 18.
What is Shion thinking? I can't believe she is staying over at the Onibaba's house after what they did to her. I would stay away from those people. Naive Naive! The only way I can explain why she is still haging around is because she is hoping that Satoshi comes back. /images/graemlins/relief1.gif /images/graemlins/icon_rolleyes.gif

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If anything, episode 17 has the best squirmish moment in anime history.

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Indeed. I thought I had grown desensitized to this stuff already having seen my fair share of horror movies where torture is involved, but I think I remember finding myself actually looking away from the screen when that particular scene ocurred. My fingers felt numb for days /images/graemlins/depresse.gif.

Splitter

08-15-2006, 09:22 AM

Well, it seems that Shion really is the evil mastermind behind the Watanagashi-hen. It's very clearly made in this episode after killing Onibaba and locking up Mion. They also explained what happend with the village elder which gives me the sneaking suspicion that next week we're gonna find out what happened to Rika and Satoko.

Very good episode this week, and it promises to be even more intense in 20.

And really, who honestly believes someone that old would have lived from being tazed?

Fencedude

08-21-2006, 10:26 PM

Ahahahaha...that was totally awesome/horrible at the same time.

Shion is one crazy, twisted, sadistic bitch, and I LOVE IT.

We find out just what led up to the very infamous scene at the beginning of Watanagashi 1 (episode 4)

Oh, and after watching this, do make sure you go back to episode 2 and check what Rika says at 9:33...

Splitter

08-21-2006, 10:47 PM

I'm gonna have to rewatch the Watanagashi-hen arc after next week. I'm sure I'll see it in a whole new light.

The Rika/Shion stand-off was just great. Rika is like the best when it comes to getting you to drop your guard! Sweet little loli packing pepper spray and suicide drugs! DAYUM!

golthin

08-21-2006, 11:16 PM

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Splitter said:
I'm gonna have to rewatch the Watanagashi-hen arc after next week. I'm sure I'll see it in a whole new light.

The Rika/Shion stand-off was just great. Rika is like the best when it comes to getting you to drop your guard! Sweet little loli packing pepper spray and suicide drugs! DAYUM!

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I am not sure that was Suicide drug for sure, but more like she didn't want to let Mion/Shion torture her, she was there because she promised Keiichi that she would protect him. She failed though, so killed herself. This is of course my interpretation of Rika's motives to try to kill Mion(Shion). I am not Surprised that Shion is the killer because of the right/left hand thing, but surprised of her motives.

SnowfairyX

08-22-2006, 03:35 AM

I think this was by far the most f***ed up and most suspenseful episode yet. Even though the specific event in question ocurring in this episode was foreshadowed all the way back in the Watanagashi arc, it was still extremely unnerving to see it again, but this time with more clarity and shown along with the events immediately preceding that point /images/graemlins/depresse.gif. I think I stopped blinking and breathing at the point Rika suddenly turned creepy, immediately afterwards goes on to pepper-spray Shion in the eyes and eventually ends with Rika losing the fight and ends up intentionally killing herself by stabbing herself in the head O_O . The music which started playing at around the moment I heard the knife handle hit the wall was just absolutely perfect as well. I definitely had at least some trouble sleeping that night, with my blood pressure raised and all /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif.

When I had seen the episode for the first time, I had watched it raw since I couldn't stand waiting for the subs. Not knowing exactly what was going on, I had assumed that the substance Shion injected into Rika was definitely the catalyst which caused her (Rika) to commit suicide, especially since it was done in such a grisly and most likely painful fashion. But after looking at the subs, it almost seems possible that she did it because she had failed in her mission and she knew that there was no way out. But I still don't buy the fact that anyone, especially a young child such as Rika, would be able to commit suicide by stabbing themselves repeatedly in the head. Maybe there was something in the syringe that helped dull the pain? Or maybe I should stop assuming everything should be ocurring in a logical and realistic manner? /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif That would actually kind of suck though /images/graemlins/icon_rolleyes.gif.

Anyway, both Shion and Rika were pretty awesome in this episode. Shion with her insanity and Rika with her cuteness /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif. This arc has been pretty damn awesome and my anticipation for the next and last episode which concludes it just cannot be put into words on how much I'm looking forward to it. It just means I'll probably be disappointed /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif, but who knows? I really don't know what to expect but I might get really queasy and/or possibly shed a tear or two /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif.

SnowfairyX

08-23-2006, 12:58 AM

I'm not entirely sure if this is appropriate for this forum, so mods can feel free to remove the link if it's not but I was looking around the web and just happened to find this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5UfIRmkv28) very amusing video and I felt like sharing /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif. It contains spoilers from the first arc of the show (episodes 1-4).

golthin

08-23-2006, 01:04 AM

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SnowfairyX said:
I'm not entirely sure if this is appropriate for this forum, so mods can feel free to remove the link if it's not but I was looking around the web and just happened to find this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5UfIRmkv28) very amusing video and I felt like sharing /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif. It contains spoilers from the first arc of the show (episodes 1-4).

[/ QUOTE ]Someone had too much time on their hand. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Isuzu Inugami

08-23-2006, 11:13 AM

[ QUOTE ]
SnowfairyX said:
I'm not entirely sure if this is appropriate for this forum, so mods can feel free to remove the link if it's not but I was looking around the web and just happened to find this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5UfIRmkv28) very amusing video and I felt like sharing /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif. It contains spoilers from the first arc of the show (episodes 1-4).

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The very concept of 4kids picking up Higurashi is hilarious enough to begin with... seeing the result is priceless!

Jadawin

08-23-2006, 02:38 PM

OMG, what a bloody episode! /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

Maybe it was just some kind of sleeping medecine or something. I dont think that Rika wanted to kill her. Reminded me of the syringe scene in the first arc with Rena, Mion and Keiichi.

Interesting how Rika kept her cool. She didnt act like the cute "mii" girl, but more like the Oyashiro-sama version.
The scene where both girls stood in front of each other with their weapons in the hands, reminded me of some Beat 'em up game. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif Well, at the end its "Shion wiiins". /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

The "Fatality" (Mortal Kombat!) blow is commited by Rika herself though. And I dont think she stabbed herself in the head. It looked to me more like it was the neck/throat.

Does Rika know, that shes actually up against Shion? I guess, she probaby doesnt, right?

I wonder if we'll ever find out, what happened with Satoshi.

We need more Rena.

SnowfairyX

08-24-2006, 12:39 AM

Hmm... I think I may have found this episode to be disappointing. It was definitely tense for sure, but many things just felt far too over-the-top for me, especially some of the dumbass facial expressions that finally started to bug me with this episode /images/graemlins/relief1.gif. I'll have to wait for the subs to come out before I confirm my final thoughts. At the moment, I have a lot of choice expletives that I want to use for a particular character /images/graemlins/anger200.gif.

golthin

08-24-2006, 01:14 AM

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SnowfairyX said:
Hmm... I think I may have found this episode to be disappointing. It was definitely tense for sure, but many things just felt far too over-the-top for me, especially some of the dumbass facial expressions that finally started to bug me with this episode /images/graemlins/relief1.gif. I'll have to wait for the subs to come out before I confirm my final thoughts. At the moment, I have a lot of choice expletives that I want to use for a particular character /images/graemlins/anger200.gif.

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IT was silly how Shion die. That was really an stupid death.
I am just curious how they going to explain what happened in the hospital. They also explained the "the death was walking" statement.

TheGreenMan

09-10-2006, 05:12 PM

I started watching this show after hearing so much about it. Wow, what a show. I love how they combine cuteness with creepy horror. The first part of the lst episode was sick--the sounds alone make me cringe--*Smack!* *Squish* *Smack!* "Squish* My next avatar is going to be from this show.

The OP is awesome-creepy as hell. I watch it over and over and over again. One of the best OPs I've heard and seen in a while.

Geneon! License this!!!

Nork22

09-10-2006, 05:30 PM

Welcome to the mindfuck. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

P.S. There's another cringe worthy scene in a later episode which is far worse than the start.

TheGreenMan

09-10-2006, 05:40 PM

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SnowfairyX said:
I'm not entirely sure if this is appropriate for this forum, so mods can feel free to remove the link if it's not but I was looking around the web and just happened to find this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5UfIRmkv28) very amusing video and I felt like sharing /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif. It contains spoilers from the first arc of the show (episodes 1-4).

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LOL! "Where...did...you...that..popsicle...from?"

Splitter

09-10-2006, 05:43 PM

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Nork22 said:
Welcome to the mindfuck. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

P.S. There's another cringe worthy scene in a later episode which is far worse than the start.

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On best recollectino, there's like *counts on fingers* 6 worse scenes thus far.

Fencedude

09-10-2006, 06:23 PM

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Splitter said:
*counts on fingers*

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ARGH

golthin

09-10-2006, 06:47 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Splitter said:
[ QUOTE ]
Nork22 said:
Welcome to the mindfuck. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

P.S. There's another cringe worthy scene in a later episode which is far worse than the start.

[/ QUOTE ]

On best recollectino, there's like *counts on fingers* 6 worse scenes thus far.

[/ QUOTE ]no!No! You must use Nails to count! /images/graemlins/devil.gif

Splitter

09-10-2006, 07:25 PM

[ QUOTE ]
golthin said:
[ QUOTE ]
Splitter said:
[ QUOTE ]
Nork22 said:
Welcome to the mindfuck. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

P.S. There's another cringe worthy scene in a later episode which is far worse than the start.

[/ QUOTE ]

On best recollectino, there's like *counts on fingers* 6 worse scenes thus far.

[/ QUOTE ]no!No! You must use Nails to count! /images/graemlins/devil.gif

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Well, I'll try to think of 15... hope I can.

1. "USO DA!!!!" (Ep. 2)
2. The ohagi game (Ep. 3)
3. Rena grabbing the chain lock (Ep. 4)
4. Rena + machette + creepy-ass laugh (Ep. 4)
5. Keiichi's final penalty game (Ep. 4)
6. Rika stabbing her temple in until she died (Ep. 5/20)
7. Mion/Shion/Demon's creepy-ass laugh on the telephone followed by the dial tone (Ep. 7)
8. "I've decided to take it back" (Ep. 8)
9. Satoko going totally mental, vomiting everywhere (Ep. 10)
10. Keiichi killing Satoko's uncle (Ep. 11)
11. "Did you bury the body properly? (Ep. 12)
12. Shion beating the shit outta Satoko (Ep. 16)
13. Shion's distinction (Ep. 17)
14. Shion beating the shit outta Onibaba in front of Mion (Ep. 19)
15. "Say "I'm sorry" 1000 times and I'll let Satoko go" (Ep. 21)

And that's all I have up through Ep. 22. YAY! Watanagashi-style is fun!

SnowfairyX

09-16-2006, 12:46 PM

I thought this episode was pretty f***ing awesome! Rena has pretty much been my favorite character throughout the series but this episode fully sealed the deal. Finally, we get to see her use that machete of hers, although I think the scene where she beats that bitch to death with a rusty pipe was much more satisfying /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif. I must have watched this episode at least 5 times, particularly those specific scenes over and over again /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif. I actually didn't expect Rena to be so blood-thirsty as to kill two people on the same day (I only expected Rina to be killed), but that just makes her all the more awesome /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif. She killed the scum that actually deserved it, unlike Shion, and I would say that currently these two are nearly polar opposites for me in terms of likeability. I found Shion to be incredibly repulsive after the last arc /images/graemlins/anger200.gif.

I nearly teared up in this episode as well /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif. It's great to see that Rena has such good friends /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif.

So far, this arc has started out magnificently. I don't expect the series to be fully wrapped up in a mere 26 episodes /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif, but at the very least, I hope the final episode doesn't end crappily like the last arc.

Jadawin

09-16-2006, 01:35 PM

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SnowfairyX said:
So far, this arc has started out magnificently. I don't expect the series to be fully wrapped up in a mere 26 episodes /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif, but at the very least, I hope the final episode doesn't end crappily like the last arc.

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I am sure that it'll be another sad ending with some of the friends dying./images/graemlins/cry00000.gif I expect Rena to go into killing mode against Keiichi and the others. Arent there any happy endings in the game? /images/graemlins/sad.gif
I hope I am wrong and that in this arc Keichi, Rena and friends stay together until the end.

Splitter

09-16-2006, 03:20 PM

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Jadawin said:
[ QUOTE ]
SnowfairyX said:
So far, this arc has started out magnificently. I don't expect the series to be fully wrapped up in a mere 26 episodes /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif, but at the very least, I hope the final episode doesn't end crappily like the last arc.

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I am sure that it'll be another sad ending with some of the friends dying./images/graemlins/cry00000.gif I expect Rena to go into killing mode against Keiichi and the others. Arent there any happy endings in the game? /images/graemlins/sad.gif
I hope I am wrong and that in this arc Keichi, Rena and friends stay together until the end.

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My guess is that there was a lot of significance in what they were all talking about near the end of the episode, about their lie becoming the truth

My theory on this arc is that everyone has rejected any and all memories of her killing spree, but Oishi-san (Man, I love to hate this guy!) is going to unearth the case, and Rena is going to become incredibly paranoid and think Keiichi and Co. tricked her and told someone anyway.

I cannot WAIT to see how all of this unfolds!

Jadawin

09-16-2006, 05:36 PM

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Splitter said:
My theory on this arc is that everyone has rejected any and all memories of her killing spree, but Oishi-san (Man, I love to hate this guy!) is going to unearth the case, and Rena is going to become incredibly paranoid and think Keiichi and Co. tricked her and told someone anyway.

I cannot WAIT to see how all of this unfolds!

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Its funny. Although Oishi is on the side of justice (at least from what we know), we hate him. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Splitter

09-16-2006, 05:55 PM

Oishi-san is the guy that always shows up when you did something stupid and he wants to expose it to the world, but you'd rather die than let him. His interrogations always get under my skin, even though you KNOW that he's keen to what you're hiding. He's so good at his job it's scary!

Oh, more on my theory. Didn't the letter in the question arc have Keiichi asking for someone to "discover the truth"? Suspiiiiiicious.... ^^

golthin

09-16-2006, 10:16 PM

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Jadawin said:
[ QUOTE ]
Splitter said:
My theory on this arc is that everyone has rejected any and all memories of her killing spree, but Oishi-san (Man, I love to hate this guy!) is going to unearth the case, and Rena is going to become incredibly paranoid and think Keiichi and Co. tricked her and told someone anyway.

I cannot WAIT to see how all of this unfolds!

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Its funny. Although Oishi is on the side of justice (at least from what we know), we hate him. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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Because unlike most of the previous killings, this time Rena did it for a good reason. The first time she did it on self defense, the second time she did it to protect her only family, though her dad showed little common sense. Really after what his wife did to him, he should put women off for a while or at least till Rena was grown up and out of the house. I don't blame the wife for cheating and leaving him, he is probably a wimp.

Splitter

09-25-2006, 08:13 PM

Okay, seriously.... what the fuck. If ANYONE has ANY idea what the hell is going on, please let me know. Because they just totally lost me.

And I want to hurt Keiichi now. A lot.

Fencedude

09-25-2006, 08:45 PM

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Splitter said:
Okay, seriously.... what the fuck. If ANYONE has ANY idea what the hell is going on, please let me know. Because they just totally lost me.

And I want to hurt Keiichi now. A lot.

[/ QUOTE ]

Eh? What do you have against Keiichi?

Splitter

09-25-2006, 09:14 PM

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Fencedude said:
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Splitter said:
Okay, seriously.... what the fuck. If ANYONE has ANY idea what the hell is going on, please let me know. Because they just totally lost me.

And I want to hurt Keiichi now. A lot.

[/ QUOTE ]

Eh? What do you have against Keiichi?

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, I don't know... how about HE SHOT LITTLE GIRLS FOR FUN!!!

Fencedude

09-25-2006, 10:39 PM

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Splitter said:
[ QUOTE ]
Fencedude said:
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Splitter said:
Okay, seriously.... what the fuck. If ANYONE has ANY idea what the hell is going on, please let me know. Because they just totally lost me.

And I want to hurt Keiichi now. A lot.

[/ QUOTE ]

Eh? What do you have against Keiichi?

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, I don't know... how about HE SHOT LITTLE GIRLS FOR FUN!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

With a BB Gun.

The Anime skipped the actual explanation, but he really is sorry for it. He was just being a jerk, but after he accidentally hit a girl in the eye he turned himself in.

Jadawin

09-26-2006, 10:27 AM

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Fencedude said:
The Anime skipped the actual explanation, but he really is sorry for it. He was just being a jerk, but after he accidentally hit a girl in the eye he turned himself in.

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Yeah, he did.

While ep. 24 didnt impress me that much, this episode was really great. Rena is living similar things, which Keiichi experienced in the first arc.

syringe = marker. Damn!

It'll be interesting to see how Keiichi, Rika and friends will try to talk some sense into Rena. Since Keiichi now remembers what he did in the first arc (Wow, remembering what happened in an alternate reality), he should be exactly aware that Rena is dangerous and might even attack their friends, so I doubt that he'll foolishly face her unarmed or without protection. At least I hope so.

Too bad that they left out the part where Rika pays a visit to Rena in the junkyard.

Fencedude

09-26-2006, 04:58 PM

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Jadawin said:
he should be exactly aware that Rena is dangerous and might even attack their friends, so I doubt that he'll foolishly face her unarmed or without protection. At least I hope so.

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This is most likely a spoiler for the final episode:

Heaven or Hell...Lets Rock! (http://www.fencedude.com/Images/Heaven_or_Hell_Edit.jpg)

Jadawin

09-26-2006, 05:41 PM

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Fencedude said:
This is most likely a spoiler for the final episode:
Heaven or Hell...Lets Rock! (http://www.fencedude.com/Images/Heaven_or_Hell_Edit.jpg)

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Fu... yeah! /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

So their water pistol game in the first episode of this arc was the foreshadowing of what will probably happen in the final episode. Show that you're a man and kick her ass, Keiichi! /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

golthin

09-26-2006, 06:27 PM

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Jadawin said:
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Fencedude said:
This is most likely a spoiler for the final episode:
Heaven or Hell...Lets Rock! (http://www.fencedude.com/Images/Heaven_or_Hell_Edit.jpg)

[/ QUOTE ]

Fu... yeah! /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

So their water pistol game in the first episode of this arc was the foreshadowing of what will probably happen in the final episode. Show that you're a man and kick her ass, Keiichi! /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif 

[/ QUOTE ]
Well, it went as predicted, but this was [episode 26 spoiler] finally a happy ending, I was happy for Rena. I liked the Keiichi in this Arc the most. It took all those arcs for him to grow a spine. Keiichi lost on purpose, and hoped that Rena would be able to trust him. She eventually did what Keiichi couldn't in the first Arc, trust her friend.

Jadawin

09-26-2006, 06:32 PM

Damn, I only read the first 3 words and was probably spoiled. /images/graemlins/sad.gif I didnt expect that kind of spoiler. I thought it was about the Heaven or Hell scene. Well, I'll read the rest after the ep. has aired. Until then I'll just hope that I misunderstood those words. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

golthin

09-26-2006, 06:38 PM

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Jadawin said:
Damn, I only read the first 3 words and was probably spoiled. /images/graemlins/sad.gif I didnt expect that kind of spoiler. Well, I'll read the rest after the ep. has aired. Until then I'll just hope that I misunderstood those words. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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Sorry about that, I should have warned that it was a spoiler for episode 26.

Jadawin

09-26-2006, 06:39 PM

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golthin said:
Sorry about that, I should have warned that it was a spoiler for episode 26.

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What are you talking about? I didnt read anything! /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

/images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

golthin

09-26-2006, 06:44 PM

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golthin said:
Sorry about that, I should have warned that it was a spoiler for episode 26.

[/ QUOTE ]

What are you talking about? I didnt read anything! /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

/images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

[/ QUOTE ]Ok ok, so you better go and watch episode 26, this is the best episode of the whole show, even Oiichi was in awed to the awesomeness of what happened.

Jadawin

09-26-2006, 06:49 PM

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Ok ok, so you better go and watch episode 26, this is the best episode of the whole show, even Oiichi was in awed to the awesomeness of what happened.

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I'll have to wait a few days/a week for the you know what-version. I am not much of a raw watcher.

But although I've been spoiled its not as bad as it would have been for other animes, since I know that this isnt the end of the whole story (unless the anime changes some things and tries to wrap up the rest of the game in this last episode). There are at least two more game chapters and more surprises ahead.

Jadawin

10-06-2006, 04:29 PM

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golthin said:
Well, it went as predicted, but this was [episode 26 spoiler] finally a happy ending, I was happy for Rena. I liked the Keiichi in this Arc the most. It took all those arcs for him to grow a spine. Keiichi lost on purpose, and hoped that Rena would be able to trust him. She eventually did what Keiichi couldn't in the first Arc, trust her friend.

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The fight wasnt as well animated as I had hoped for, but crazy Rena was great. I particularly liked the scene when she finally realized her mistake.

They showed the beginning of the next arc with Rika being questioned by Oishi. Of course, since she knows what's happening, she (probably) won't go insane like Keiichi, Shion or Rena.

Oh, and actually this arc [game spoiler] DOESNT end well. Ok, the friends stay together, but still all die due to the gas disaster happening again. Too bad, that they didnt include that in the anime, hehe. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Well, up next is the game for the Minagoroshi and Matsuribayashi arcs, I guess. It's a good thing, that some nice ppl are translating those.
Rule X, Y and Z. Fight Rika! /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Nork22

10-06-2006, 05:40 PM

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Jadawin said:
Well, up next is the game for the Minagoroshi and Matsuribayashi arcs, I guess. It's a good thing, that some nice ppl are translating those.
Rule X, Y and Z. Fight Rika! /images/graemlins/happy.gif

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I'll just be playing the PS2 port. Then maybe after I'm done, I'll go read up Matsuribayashi. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

JackW

11-11-2006, 08:15 AM

I've just finished this series, and I have to say it's one of the most enjoyable series I've seen in a while.

I found the ending a little bit of a let-down, of a piece with the whole "you're my friend so I'll support you even though you have an underground torture chamber/chop people into fridge-sized chunks/kill off my other friends" extremist view of friendship, which was a bit hard to swallow, but otherwise it was all very engaging. My favourite by far was the Shion arc: I thought they pulled the previous strands of story together in a well-thought-out way that was believable, even if a bit extreme in places; I even ended up rooting for Shion, although she was completely off her trolley.

The most disturbing scene for me, despite all the torture and bloodletting, was when K1 has his flashback and we see that the syringe was just a marker afer all. That scene was already bad enough with Mion and Rena as possible antagonists; that he killed them when they were just friends playing was, I found, very depressing, especially as Rena and, particularly, Mion, were my favourite characters.

Overall, a solid 8/10 from me for this one.

SnowfairyX

12-06-2006, 08:44 PM

I heard of this from someone on another site but for those that are interested, there will be a 2nd season coming out for this show (source, Moon Phase (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/moonphase/20061206)). From what I heard from a less official source, it will be coming out in April. Also, this was much older news but for the japanese consumers that purchased all of the dvds, they will get to receive an exclusive OVA episode, though it presumably is just a stand-alone episode (filler) which is not important to the rest of the show.

Oh, and I am absolutely ecstatic about this news myself! :surprised: I am drooling in anticipation and can't freaking wait!! :neko: I've been dreaming of this ever since the last episode finished but I actually wasn't expecting a second season. Hopefully, the animators will have a larger budget this time.

Nork22

12-06-2006, 10:16 PM

I heard of this from someone on another site but for those that are interested, there will be a 2nd season coming out for this show (source, Moon Phase (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/moonphase/20061206)).
From what I've read, it's not really a second season, but rather, a second series. Wether it will be a retelling with a much closer following of the game, or they might be animating some of the side-stories, or that they might animated the last 5 answer arcs (2 from the PC game, 3 from the PS2 game), that's all up in the air at the moment. Nevertheless, I'm excited about this. :)

Jadawin

12-06-2006, 10:48 PM

Wow, that's great news! But already a remake? I hope that's not the case. Ok, so the anime crew screwed up on many occasions (according to those who played the games), but I'd really like them to animate the other arcs first, before redoing the old ones.

SnowfairyX

12-07-2006, 02:06 AM

I heard of this from someone on another site but for those that are interested, there will be a 2nd season coming out for this show (source, Moon Phase (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/moonphase/20061206)).
From what I've read, it's not really a second season, but rather, a second series.
I'm getting a little bit of conflicting information at this time, but I'm pretty sure logically, that it's a second season. It's only been about 2 or 3 months since the last episode aired so I don't think that a re-make would be announced so soon. I've heard it referred to as a second "series" but I've heard that it usually just means "season" and not literally another series like a re-make. Eventually down the road maybe in a few years, I hope that the series gets one though. I've heard that this current series is missing some stuff from the game and it also could use some better animation and character designs. For just the second season though, they can improve on all of the above that I mentioned except for the character designs, because then it would look kind of weird. Anyway, I'll mention again that I am really looking forward to this.

Edit: I can't read japanese but according to what others have said, the official web site (http://www.oyashirosama.com/web/) confirms that it will be a second season.

Nork22

12-07-2006, 05:16 AM

Edit: I can't read japanese but according to what others have said, the official web site (http://www.oyashirosama.com/web/) confirms that it will be a second season.
Well if that's the case, then YIPPIE!!! Now which ending are they going to animate? :D

P.S. Going to the official website still creeps me out. :nervous:

TheGreenMan

12-07-2006, 10:33 AM

Damnit, someone license this show already (Geneon-I'm looking at you)! I need my :evil:!

ayareiko

12-07-2006, 03:39 PM

http://www.oyashirosama.com/

Season 2 officially confirmed (with Rena in a Angel Mort uniform on less... :bignosebleed:).

Ty

12-07-2006, 04:22 PM

http://www.oyashirosama.com/

Season 2 officially confirmed (with Rena in a Angel Mort uniform on less... :bignosebleed:).
I'd have to agree now that I've gotten used to the oddball character designs.

SnowfairyX

12-07-2006, 06:18 PM

http://www.oyashirosama.com/

Season 2 officially confirmed (with Rena in a Angel Mort uniform on less... :bignosebleed:).
I'd have to agree now that I've gotten used to the oddball character designs.
Have you ever seen the designs for the original visual novels? They are quite... unique looking :nervous: and I'm amused at the thought that anyone could be able to lust over them. Also, I'm more looking forward to seeing Keiichi in a waitress outfit than Rena. :evil:

Some additional details that I've heard are that the director might choose to go a different path than of the visual novels and also make up his own ending. Even though I've never played the visual novels and tried to avoid as many spoilers as possible, I'm not really liking the sound of that. After all the yelling and screaming this studio must have heard from the visual novel fans, I don't they will want to mess it up though.

Advent_Nebula

12-07-2006, 08:18 PM

Yes, More Crazy Loli's FTW!!!

Jumbo

12-14-2006, 10:51 PM

http://www.oyashirosama.com/

Season 2 officially confirmed (with Rena in a Angel Mort uniform on less... :bignosebleed:).

Glad it's official. Looks like we are going to get our conclusion after all, though I'm curious now to see if they will simply finish up the final two chapters or throw some other stuff out there. I guess that depends on how long they plan on running it. The way they were going they could wrap up two more chapters in 13 or so episodes, though it would be interesting to let them have 26 again to cover the last two in more detail.

I'd have to agree now that I've gotten used to the oddball character designs.
Have you ever seen the designs for the original visual novels? They are quite... unique looking :nervous: and I'm amused at the thought that anyone could be able to lust over them. Also, I'm more looking forward to seeing Keiichi in a waitress outfit than Rena. :evil:

Quite frankly, I've grown rather fond of Ryukishi07's original versions while reading through the first 5 chapters. If nothing else I have to give the guy credit for the designs having a distinct style to them.

This is why while I am looking forward to the PS2 Higurashi Matsuri, I am not all that impressed with the PS2 character designs. If people thought the anime designs were blah or uninspiring, Alchemist's renditions are about as "generic mainstream anime" as you can get and I'm purchasing strictly for the exclusive chapters. I'm willing to bet the manga does a better job portraying any event scenes they decide to throw in the PS2 version as well.

Some additional details that I've heard are that the director might choose to go a different path than of the visual novels and also make up his own ending. Even though I've never played the visual novels and tried to avoid as many spoilers as possible, I'm not really liking the sound of that. After all the yelling and screaming this studio must have heard from the visual novel fans, I don't they will want to mess it up though.

I'd like to think they will follow the Sound Novel as well. This could also explain why they waited for 7th Expansion to release the final chapter and let everyone take it in before jumping on a second season anime really quick and going with some kind of "alternate" anime ending.

I just hope they decide to simply title the second season as Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni Kai after the answer arcs. ^_^

I also think this second season is why the series hasn't been licensed yet. Taking into consideration anime companies waiting for series to finish completely before jumping on a license to make sure they have it all. (Think FMP The Second Raid or School Rumble.) Just going to have to wait and see I guess.

Herufaiya

12-15-2006, 08:31 AM

I honestly don't understand all the issues concerning Keiichi's seiyuu, Studio DEEN or, the most disturbing of all, a complete remake, I think we should be happy we have such a unique anime series to begin with, and the cutesy character desgins add so much more richness to the series, I think people should spend less time trying to overhaul the series, and more time praying, praying that this is another 26 episode series, so we can get the last two PC games, maybe the manga arcs and, God-willing, the PS2 arcs, which technically complete the series(Matsuribayashi-hen is the series' alternate "good" ending, Miotsukushi-hen is the final ending)...
Anywho, premiere is in April, just like the original season, so maybe, just maybe, it'll be 26 episodes again, and this show can get an ending. Honestly, this is the best piece of anime horror since Berserk and Divergence EVE, and I like it, I do, but I wouldn't consider buying it for one second unless they finished the plotline...in its entirety, I like the characters and all, but the plot is what this show is best at...
*looks into Higurashi*
Oh God...they've added three new chapters to the series...DAMMIT, they'll never finish it now...

littleharlock

12-24-2006, 12:57 PM

Quite frankly, I've grown rather fond of Ryukishi07's original versions while reading through the first 5 chapters. If nothing else I have to give the guy credit for the designs having a distinct style to them.

Same here. If I had to choose I'd go for Ryukishi07's original designs for Higurashi no Naku koro ni in no matter of time.
Admited I really enjoy the way Kyuuta Sakai (http://www.vega.or.jp/~kohkichi/kyu2.htm) adapted the designs for the TV series, giving them a refreshing new approach yet staying faithful to the original designs (i.e. Oishi). However Ryukishi07's art is unique and addictive...I mean it's scenes like this (http://dragonautics.co.at/community/usrpages/lhnl/pub/rika-chan-neko.jpg) or this one (http://dragonautics.co.at/community/usrpages/lhnl/pub/rena-kaii-mode.jpg) where one realizes that his simplistic art just fits the scene and emotion of the scene perfectly :neko: (sorry for the bad screenshots ^_~)

Jumbo said:
This is why while I am looking forward to the PS2 Higurashi Matsuri, I am not all that impressed with the PS2 character designs. If people thought the anime designs were blah or uninspiring, Alchemist's renditions are about as "generic mainstream anime" as you can get and I'm purchasing strictly for the exclusive chapters.

Yeah those PS2 designs are horrible IMO. I mean, not that they look "bad" but it's IMO the worst and most obvious job of "let's adapt these designs into mainstream ones to ensure to cash". Thanks, but no thanks...I stick with Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei to be released in a week.

Coming back to the anime adaption, kudos to Studio Deen for the neat treatment it gives Higurashi no Naku Koro ni with this. Of course (referring to fans of the original digital novel that are "not pleased" with the anime adaption *to put it mildly*) it "could" have been done better, but given the episode count and the format I think the staff involved did a great job on turning Ryukishi07's wonderful story into anime at last. A second season therefore is great news IMO.

Overall I think Frontier Works just does a decent job with the jp DVD release for this series...for those that purchase all DVDs (applies to limited and regular edition buyers) and send in the attached tickets within the deadline, will receive a "new animation" DVD titled Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Gaiden ~ Neko Koroshi-hen. *So* can't wait for the fifth DVD to arrive here ^_^

Jumbo

01-29-2007, 12:11 PM

While I guess this doesn't really relate to the anime pre say, I did feel it was work posting.

Alchemist (http://www.alchemist-net.co.jp/products/higurashi_matsuri/) has posted the official release date for the PS2 Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni -Matsuri-. It will see release on Feb. 22nd.

More importantly, they now have their Opening Movie Download Campaign going as well.

If you follow the Alchemist link above to the index, clicking the only motion banner on the front page will send you to mirrors for a direct download.

The character designs are still (and always will be) a little bleh for me but the movie is put together pretty well. Something worth checking out while waiting for the game release/second season anyway.

littleharlock

01-29-2007, 01:14 PM

Nah I'm still not convinced about this console adaption and will stick to the OP single release for it (lovely Ito Kanako song for Higurashi ^_~)

All I *am* looking forward to in regards of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (aside of new stuff that comes from Ryukishi07 for the series of course) is the 2nd TV anime season. Speaking of which Jumbo, wouldn't an I've/Eiko Shimamiya take on "You" as Opening theme for season 2 rock? :bigsmile:

But at least Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei and the Frontier Works Comiket71 Higurashi goodies should arrive here soon to make the wait for season 2 a little more endureable.

Ialdaboth

01-29-2007, 01:43 PM

Damnit, someone license this show already (Geneon-I'm looking at you)! I need my :evil:!

Done, apparently.

In France. (http://www.manewsexpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3443) :P

Shiroi Hane

01-29-2007, 05:09 PM

I suspect that's matsuri?

Jumbo

01-30-2007, 05:40 PM

Nah I'm still not convinced about this console adaption

Yeah, I'm picking it up simply because I already have a R2 PS2 (Curse you Ohmori Aoi (http://irumo.vis.ne.jp/) and your game character designs (http://www.summonnight.net/snworld/snex/index.html)...) and due to the three new Chapters. (Taraimawashi, Tsukiotoshi and Miotsukushi Chapters.)

and will stick to the OP single release for it (lovely Ito Kanako song for Higurashi ^_~)

Isn't Kanako (http://www.mangaoh.co.jp/php/data_product.php?i_prd_code=135805) doing the ED theme and Ayane (http://www.mangaoh.co.jp/php/data_product.php?i_prd_code=135804) doing the OP? (What makes it more confusing is CD Japan (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=VGCD-1007) lists it as Higurashi "Sai" ??? And here I thought my little slip on "Matsuri was bad enough...) ^^; I figure the music used in the OP movie is Nageki no Mori. (Which is very cool) Are there samples of the ED out there?

All I *am* looking forward to in regards of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (aside of new stuff that comes from Ryukishi07 for the series of course) is the 2nd TV anime season. Speaking of which Jumbo, wouldn't an I've/Eiko Shimamiya take on "You" as Opening theme for season 2 rock? :bigsmile:

As cool as that might be, first I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that Eiko Shimamiya comes back for the second season at all. And if she does, I'd almost prefer it to simply be a completely new I've Sound production myself. ^^; Though it would be cool if they took sound effect samples from the game and used them in the music like you-Visionen im Spiegel did. (Though granted they only used it once but to great effect.)

But at least Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei and the Frontier Works Comiket71 Higurashi goodies should arrive here soon to make the wait for season 2 a little more endureable.

You'll have to keep me posted on those.

littleharlock

02-11-2007, 01:33 PM

Nah I'm still not convinced about this console adaption

Yeah, I'm picking it up simply because I already have a R2 PS2 (Curse you Ohmori Aoi (http://irumo.vis.ne.jp/) and your game character designs (http://www.summonnight.net/snworld/snex/index.html)...) and due to the three new Chapters. (Taraimawashi, Tsukiotoshi and Miotsukushi Chapters.)

Good for my wallet that I'm not into console games (though looking at what Japan offers in regards of PC games in 2007 I guess that doesn't build up more savings either ^_~).
Speaking of Higurashi promos, I personally like this one (http://baby.itigo.jp/dear-you/DOWNLOAD.html) offered for the Comiket70 Dear you Doujin CD release (not really because of the artwork but me can't get enough of "You" ^_^").

Isn't Kanako (http://www.mangaoh.co.jp/php/data_product.php?i_prd_code=135805) doing the ED theme and Ayane (http://www.mangaoh.co.jp/php/data_product.php?i_prd_code=135804) doing the OP? (What makes it more confusing is CD Japan (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=VGCD-1007) lists it as Higurashi "Sai" ??? And here I thought my little slip on "Matsuri was bad enough...) ^^; I figure the music used in the OP movie is Nageki no Mori. (Which is very cool)

You're right. Sorry my typo (I really should do some proofreading before posting ^_~).

Are there samples of the ED out there?

Not that I'm aware of. Kanako does list the single release on her site's News section (http://www.kanataro.com/top.html) but nor her site (nor the ZIZZ STUDIO site) do have samples up for the actual songs. However given Kanako's previous ZIZZ works this is a blind purchase I'm not worried about ^_^
Generally speaking it's amazing to see how many talented musicians already worked/are working on the Higurashi no Naku Koro ni project...Eiko Shimamiya/I've, Kenji Kawai, Rekka Katakiri, Tenmon, Haruka Shimotsuki and now Ito Kanako/ZIZZ STUDIO. Quite an impressive line-up in regards of music ^_~

You'll have to keep me posted on those.

Nothing exciting, unfortunately I missed the deadline for pre-ordering the full set at Animate (heck just like with the Aneimo 2nd Stage Mami Kawada Melty snow set and the PRISM ARK DX Sound Comiket71 set...I had it noted and boomarked, but remembered past the deadline for pre-ordering) but the CD and Memorial book are nice Higurashi goodies as well (on a somewhat related sidenote I could curse the customs here for not managing to let a package through to within a week -.-)

Jumbo

03-22-2007, 01:11 PM

Second Season has been given a start date of July. Oyashirosama.com (http://oyashirosama.com/web/news/kai.htm)

Looks like Ryukishi07 is going to be assisting with an original anime only chapter as well. (Character concept artwork for one of the new characters can be found at the bottom of the web page)

I'm glad they are going to run with -Kai- for the title. I wonder what other chapters are going to make it in there.

littleharlock

03-22-2007, 02:47 PM

Thanks for the info Jumbo!

Just received ltd. edition Vol. 6 to 8 and having watched through them I know that it will be a hard wait 'till the start of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai in July 07.
In fact right now, especially after the awesome Maekashi-hen, I'm very tempted to go through the Digital novel at *last* after I will finish ef - the first tale. (assumable this weekend). Heck I already did start my way through the novel's Onikakushi-hen anyways ^_^"

ayareiko

03-22-2007, 08:14 PM

They also list the cast too. Looks like every one is back plus:

???? --- å*€æ±Ÿç”±è¡£

The name on the right is Yui Horie. Anyone who has been following all things Higurashi should already know what role she's playing.
If you don't already know, but want to know anyway... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJpl41chmH4)

Fencedude

03-22-2007, 08:22 PM

They also list the cast too. Looks like every one is back plus:

???? --- å*€æ±Ÿç”±è¡£

The name on the right is Yui Horie. Anyone who has been following all things Higurashi should already know what role she's playing.
If you don't already know, but want to know anyway... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJpl41chmH4)

Au au au au au au au au au

Nork22

03-22-2007, 08:39 PM

If you don't already know, but want to know anyway... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJpl41chmH4)
Awwww.... now I see where Rika got her speech patterns from. How adorable. :neko: :neko:
Au au au au au au au

HitokiriShadow

03-23-2007, 12:01 AM

I think I've seen pictures of this girl. Or maybe it was another girl, since I recall her having pink hair. But she definitely had those horn looking things.

My memory of the first season is a bit fuzzy, but that sounds like Shion (or Mion) talking to her.

I'm also glad to here that there will be an anime only arc (or arcs). Maybe it will be the real, true ending.

Ty

03-23-2007, 12:04 AM

If you don't already know, but want to know anyway... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJpl41chmH4)
I dunno.... they fail to pass as cute when they start sounding like bird calls.

Thanatos

03-23-2007, 04:42 AM

Au au au au au au au au au

Is this the result of believing in a sign of UGUU?

ayareiko

03-23-2007, 04:48 AM

My memory of the first season is a bit fuzzy, but that sounds like Shion (or Mion) talking to her.
Nope, it's Rika. I think she uses this tone of voice twice in the series. First, in Himatsubushi-hen, when she tells Akasaka what will happen on the day of the festival for the next few years. And again, in Meakashi-hen, when she decided to remove her own head after she has lost to Shion.

Fencedude

03-23-2007, 04:55 AM

My memory of the first season is a bit fuzzy, but that sounds like Shion (or Mion) talking to her.
Nope, it's Rika. I think she uses this tone of voice twice in the series. First, in Himatsubushi-hen, when she tells Akasaka what will happen on the day of the festival for the next few years. And again, in Meakashi-hen, when she decided to remove her own head after she has lost to Shion.

"Frederika Bernkastel"

SnowfairyX

03-23-2007, 10:14 AM

If you don't already know, but want to know anyway... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJpl41chmH4)
*melts* Can I take it home? :blush:

Anyway, I still would like to see pics of her from the show first before I'm totally convinced that this character is really in it. With the addition of this character, I'm curious if the show will still retain the mood and consistency that it had in the first season. It seems like it might not and I have no idea if that'll end up totally to my liking. Still, this is definitely my most anticipated show of the year.

Jumbo

03-23-2007, 08:18 PM

Anyway, I still would like to see pics of her from the show first before I'm totally convinced that this character is really in it.

If they actually plan to finish the -Kai- (Answer) arcs (even if they simply follow the PC/Doujin soft) she will have to make an appearance. They also hinted at her getting animated when they put up promo art for the Hinamizawa Web Radio Sarumawashi-hen. Her character can be seen in the promo art here (http://www.famitsu.com/anime/news/2007/02/01/681,1170322848,66532,0,0.html). On top of that, they cast all the voices from the anime to do the PS2 game and with her name showing up on the anime home page odds are pretty high that she would be asked to reprise her role here too.

HitokiriShadow

03-24-2007, 12:13 AM

My memory of the first season is a bit fuzzy, but that sounds like Shion (or Mion) talking to her.
Nope, it's Rika. I think she uses this tone of voice twice in the series. First, in Himatsubushi-hen, when she tells Akasaka what will happen on the day of the festival for the next few years. And again, in Meakashi-hen, when she decided to remove her own head after she has lost to Shion.

I heard that deeper tone and figured it had to be one of the Sonozaki sisters. While they usually aren't that low, they can be when they are.... serious, shall we say. Unless my memory is fooling me again.

Anyhow, I'm not quite sure what to think about "au au au au au au". Its kind of cute, but annoying at the same time.

Shiroi Hane

03-31-2007, 11:21 AM

I guess we're talking about the camera shy girl (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1613363b1d775df9e1f5234uy4.jpg) who wasn't in the first anime?

littleharlock

04-01-2007, 04:29 AM

Among the more hilarious April Fool's Day jokes coming from Japan.
Don't miss this sightseeing attraction on your next Japan trip and explore the beautiful village of Hinamizawa with your personal tour guide Rena Ryugu (http://oyashirosama.com/web/top/) :bigsmile:

Nork22

04-01-2007, 07:21 AM

Among the more hilarious April Fool's Day jokes coming from Japan.
Don't miss this sightseeing attraction on your next Japan trip and explore the beautiful village of Hinamizawa with your personal tour guide Rena Ryugu (http://oyashirosama.com/web/top/) :bigsmile:
And it just cost a measly sixty-six billion, six hundred and sixty six million, six hundred and sixty-six thousand, six hundred and sixty six yen!!! :D
Where do I sign up?!

Jumbo

04-26-2007, 11:36 PM

Official site for the -Kai- season anime us up (http://www.oyashirosama.com/web/kai/index.htm). (Like the image!)

according to the report at eg's site (http://eg.nttpub.co.jp/news/20070426_07.html), it is set to be a 24 episode series this time. This should give them plenty of time to get through the new arc (Yakusamashi-hen, literally: Misfortune Awakening Chapter) which unfortunately is sounding like a sort of recap episode to catch everyone up with past events and set the stage for Minagoroshi-hen. (As opposed to being a "new" scenario per-say)

Horie Yui is still ??? but as mentioned earlier the PS2 Matsuri game kind of gives that away... In other Matsuri cross over stuff, if they keep the chapters to no more than six ep. maybe they will be able to throw in the Onisarashi-hen manga arc too.

* EDIT: Glad they are going to run with the -Kai- in the title itself.

Nork22

04-27-2007, 07:49 AM

Looking at the goods section of the main page, I want this T-Shirt! (http://oyashirosama.com/web/news/img/070330-1.jpg) :> :>