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cartman414

06-01-2006, 04:57 PM

Silly question, but was there any sort of clarification of Tomoe Midoh's cause of death? Though of course she's human, it just seems a little ironic to me how such an example of natural athletic prowess could die in her mid-30s. Judging from the scene though, my money's on something along the lines of pneumonia.

Fencedude

06-01-2006, 04:59 PM

She died of "Plot-device-itis"

Njr Scrawl

06-01-2006, 05:54 PM

It is never explained in the OVA series. However in BAV, we see in flashback - at the end of the 1st arc (as Akari tells Ichino about her), Tomoe talking to Akari shortly before she died. It seemed to be a wasting sickness of some kind - so likely cancer for someone so young & presumably fit.

aquapermanence

06-01-2006, 06:35 PM

Tomoe has golden eyes. Clearly, her ancestors dabbled in alchemy, wrecking the wheels of nature. As a result the entire bloodline was doomed to live short yet brilliant lives, bear children, and die young.

Akari is afflicted, too. Her only clues to this terrible curse are the mysterious masked figure who oversees her education, and the various women who live with her and try to get into her pants.

/images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif This was all explained in another AIC series.

TheGreenMan

06-01-2006, 06:48 PM

She died because someone put a spoiler in the heading of a post. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif

Fencedude

06-01-2006, 07:08 PM

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She died because someone put a spoiler in the heading of a post. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif

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Err...the fact that Tomoe Midoh is dead is not a spoiler, its background for the series.

Chloe

06-01-2006, 07:16 PM

For once, I agree with Fencedude... /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

Aquapermanance: Which AIC series might you be referring to? Inquiring minds want to know! /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

TheGreenMan

06-01-2006, 07:28 PM

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TheGreenMan said:
She died because someone put a spoiler in the heading of a post. /images/graemlins/depresse.gif /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif

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Err...the fact that Tomoe Midoh is dead is not a spoiler, its background for the series.

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Oh, okay. /images/graemlins/sweat200.gif It sounded like a spoiler. When I read it, I was thinking "Crap! Now I have to watch the series knowing the character will die." Sorry.

TalonG4

06-01-2006, 08:19 PM

Well, Flo-jo died at 38 so death can hit anyone, anytime but I think Fence hit it on the head in this case.

Of course if you are in better shape the odds are lower, but genes play a big part too. Maybe Akari will die young too.

aquapermanence

06-01-2006, 08:20 PM

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Which AIC series might you be referring to?

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Masquerade. It's the show I spread awareness about. ::points at username::

cartman414

06-01-2006, 09:14 PM

I'm starting to think AIC should do an anime for the sake of being self-referential, a la GAINAX with FLCL and Otaku no Video (that counts, right?). Attractive females from space, gravity defying hairdos, and wacky forehead emblems, oh my!

So wow, Akane's life could be about halfway over. On the other hand, if it was illness or disease, then hopefully revived Tomoe at the end of the series will be treated early for when she reaches that age again.

One extraneous thought, Jessie sure was a bitch to Akane in ep. 5. I wouldn't consider it Akane's fault that Tomoe was overly gentle with Akane, told her that Akane would "become strong" at the University Satellite rather than prepare her herself, and then suddenly die on her. To be chastised for not living up to said mother was vinegar on that open wound. I know that Jessie had it harder growing up, but that's still a pretty weak excuse.

Njr Scrawl

06-02-2006, 05:16 AM

Do you mean Akari?

Jessie's personality is tough, from her background & the enviroment she lives in. She is a self-sacrifice zealot though.

I wish there had been more on the Russian swimmer.

GanChan

06-02-2006, 01:16 PM

Obviously, she was a victim of Anime Mom Disease. Any female character who reproduces is taking her life in her own hands, and will only appear in bittersweet dream sequences thereafter.

Spirit Of The Stage

06-02-2006, 05:59 PM

Silly thought - considering that her husband Mr. Miracle suffered from an illness as well, maybe she caught something from him...and she just didn't eat enough chocolate...^_^ 

A serious answer is a possible illness that is unknown to us, but occured in the 4990s on a similar scale to cancer and the like?

Isuzu Inugami

06-02-2006, 06:14 PM

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Obviously, she was a victim of Anime Mom Disease. Any female character who reproduces is taking her life in her own hands, and will only appear in bittersweet dream sequences thereafter.

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The anime industry spends millions coming up with yet another technique to split rocks with one's fists, but not a dime for Anime Mom Disease. It's frickin' criminal, I tell ya!

akcoll99

06-02-2006, 10:01 PM

Anime reminds me of 1960's American sitcoms- almost nobody ever 'divorced', they were all widows or widowers (Brady Bunch, Courtship Of Eddie's Father, My 3 Sons, etc.) /images/graemlins/happy.gif

jecca-neko

06-02-2006, 10:18 PM

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Silly thought - considering that her husband Mr. Miracle suffered from an illness as well, maybe she caught something from him...and she just didn't eat enough chocolate...^_^ 

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It's good she didn't eat more chocolate. Watch BAV again (really frickin' big spoilers, don't read if you haven't seen the last volume of BAV): the chocolate is revealed to be a poison that Eric gives to Mr. Miracle on behalf of the Nerelians so he will slowly die. It doesn't go into why exactly Mr. Miracle needed Eric to start treating him in the first place, presumably for whatever it was that the headmaster hinted to Mr. Miracle doing in his quest to raise up girls to be Cosmo Beauties, but the chocolate did almost kill him regardless.

Can you tell I just finished re-watching this series recently? Recently as in I watched the last volume earlier this week. /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

Njr Scrawl

06-03-2006, 06:11 AM

Perhaps Tomoe did eat some. Either given her by her husband, or she ate some as a choco-holic airhead. Or because it gave her extra energy. If she had a weaker constitution, the poison could have affected her faster. 

Sub topic. How were the Nereilians able to "resurrect" Tomoe?
DNA cloning from her remains, or was she er...preserved somehow when buried

Fencedude

06-03-2006, 07:54 AM

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Perhaps Tomoe did eat some. Either given her by her husband, or she ate some as a choco-holic airhead. Or because it gave her extra energy. If she had a weaker constitution, the poison could have affected her faster. 

Sub topic. How were the Nereilians able to "resurrect" Tomoe?
DNA cloning from her remains, or was she er...preserved somehow when buried

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You're thinking too hard.

cartman414

06-03-2006, 11:45 AM

Actually it would have made sense if the Nerilians poisoned Tomoe and caused her pre-storyline death so they would have the opportunity to resurrect her and have control over her like they did before the final challenge. Because unless they had some sort of mind control as backup they really lucked out.

Njr Scrawl

06-03-2006, 12:07 PM

So they could have done it through Eric in food or chocolate. 

More likely Tomoe got cancer, but what has always perplexed me is how such a young, fit woman with no vices could die young of natural causes.

The "new" Tomoe is a clone IMO, advanced to her age when she was top athlete. Perhaps "seeing the light" is what changed/matured her to a level-headed woman & later mother

Shsway

06-03-2006, 05:29 PM

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Judging from the scene though, my money's on something along the lines of pneumonia.

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Honestly, that's what I always assumed. Or tuberculosis, though there was certianly no evidence of either on screen.

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Actually it would have made sense if the Nerilians poisoned Tomoe and caused her pre-storyline death so they would have the opportunity to resurrect her and have control over her like they did before the final challenge. Because unless they had some sort of mind control as backup they really lucked out.

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Kewl!

Hey, Njr, Happy Birthday, man!

Njr Scrawl

06-03-2006, 06:43 PM

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Judging from the scene though, my money's on something along the lines of pneumonia.

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Honestly, that's what I always assumed. Or tuberculosis, though there was certianly no evidence of either on screen.

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Actually it would have made sense if the Nerilians poisoned Tomoe and caused her pre-storyline death so they would have the opportunity to resurrect her and have control over her like they did before the final challenge. Because unless they had some sort of mind control as backup they really lucked out.

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Kewl!

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With TB,I'm sure they would have shown her coughing & blood. Pneumonia is plausible.

If Eric was working for them all along, he could have drugged Tomoe to make her seem like dying, faked the death certificate, & she would have been buried, then abducted, had her body healed & had her memory wiped. The Nerelians zapping Tomoe's tomb would destroy evidence her body was not there. (OK, definitely thinking too much about this!)

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Hey, Njr, Happy Birthday, man!

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cartman414

06-04-2006, 12:27 AM

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Judging from the scene though, my money's on something along the lines of pneumonia.

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Honestly, that's what I always assumed. Or tuberculosis, though there was certianly no evidence of either on screen.

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Actually it would have made sense if the Nerilians poisoned Tomoe and caused her pre-storyline death so they would have the opportunity to resurrect her and have control over her like they did before the final challenge. Because unless they had some sort of mind control as backup they really lucked out.

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Kewl!

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With TB,I'm sure they would have shown her coughing & blood. Pneumonia is plausible.

If Eric was working for them all along, he could have drugged Tomoe to make her seem like dying, faked the death certificate, & she would have been buried, then abducted, had her body healed & had her memory wiped. The Nerelians zapping Tomoe's tomb would destroy evidence her body was not there. (OK, definitely thinking too much about this!)

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Hey, Njr, Happy Birthday, man!

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Interesting thoughts, all. Too bad Battle Athletes didn't become more popular as to merit any more official discussion.

Oh, and happy b-day too. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif