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ape2020
07-07-2006, 09:51 PM
Okay I'm not techophile so I'm not sure what is being said but here a claim a work around the copy protection has been found for both HD-DVD and BRDVD on PCs.
HD Copy Protection Workaround Discovered. (http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/11308/HD-Copy-Protection-Workaround-Discovered/)

-chimp1010

jlazar
07-07-2006, 10:03 PM
That didn't take as long as I thought it would. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Granted, this is rather limited in it's ability to really 'copy' a movie, but it just goes to show everyone what the media companies refuse to believe:

Anything that can be seen or heard can be copied.


I imagine Vista will have built in limitations to avoid screen grabs of HD/BR material, but then that'll be broken sooner or later anyway.

Gersen
07-08-2006, 08:56 AM
Not realy a "huge" or even a very "exciting" discovery, before DeCSS a similar method was already used for DVD (using powerDVD capture frame function instead or a printscreen)

It's not that "practical" not only you have to reencode the video, which quality loss, also you don't have access to the "real" video stream but only to the images after decoding so you better hope that your software decoder didn't add too much artefacts (not to mention all the VMR9 generated crap), but the bigest problem is that your video will be in uncompressed which mean something like a tera byte (+1000Gb) of data for a 1080p 120 minutes movie and that's just for the video.

I wait for the "real" announcement, the one telling that the disks have been successfully cracked, only then I will start rejoicing /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Gersen

Skywise
07-08-2006, 03:04 PM
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Gersen said:
Not realy a "huge" or even a very "exciting" discovery, before DeCSS a similar method was already used for DVD (using powerDVD capture frame function instead or a printscreen)

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Good thing I'm not the only one that remembers that /images/graemlins/happy.gif. With Vista this functionality will most likely be gone as then (that's the idea at least) the entire processing pathway from drive to display will be encrypted, including the framebuffer on the video card. Whether that'll actually happen I have some doubts about.

JeffDM
07-10-2006, 06:34 PM
Now you'd need to make a program that steps the player through a movie and grabbing each frame, and then encoding an entire movie from it. That's a lot of work. I hope this grab feature isn't taken away to prevent this. It might be a nice way to grab nice wallpaper images.

TAS
07-15-2006, 12:43 PM
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JeffDM said:
I hope this grab feature isn't taken away to prevent this. It might be a nice way to grab nice wallpaper images.

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Intervideo's WinDVD 7.5 B41.071 no longer has the screenshot option when playing HD DVDs

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As expected...

Skywise
07-15-2006, 03:46 PM
I suspect that was a PR move over anything else. Unlike on Vista they can't secure the video pathway on XP, so it shouldn't take hackers long to figure out how to get access to it again. As long as there's playback software on non-secure OSs both blu-ray and hd-dvd are very vulnerable to rip exploits. At this point they'll have to blacklist XP based players once Vista is out and available if they want to plug the hole.

golthin
07-16-2006, 05:22 AM
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Chimp1010 said:
Okay I'm not techophile so I'm not sure what is being said but here a claim a work around the copy protection has been found for both HD-DVD and BRDVD on PCs.
HD Copy Protection Workaround Discovered. (http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/11308/HD-Copy-Protection-Workaround-Discovered/)

-chimp1010

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does this surprise you? Copy protections are not to stop pirates from copying things, but to stop your avarage joe from doing it. for every 10 persons that work on a copy protection system, there is thousands of people with nothing better to do than to break the code.