Possible new Eva project aka Let Tha Milking Commence

[Chiyosuke]

News via ANS:
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8-7-06 (7:04AM EDT)---- New Evangelion Anime Movie(s) Coming?
One of the biggest rumors running this summer among Japanese fans online involves Studio GAINAX, presumably under the aegis of Director Hideaki Anno, re-editing and adding new animation footage to the original 1995 26 episode Evangelion TV series (ala Gundam Zeta) and releasing them as a series of new movies to Japanese theaters. So the story goes, as many as 4 movies could be produced and the 4th one may be entirely new material or may contain an entirely new ending to the Evangelion saga. A side rumor from a few months ago indicates a staff room for Evangelion was being created or renovated at GAINAX HQ. This questionable information started circulating prior to the below mentioned GAINAX search launched, looking for production and animation staff for a forthcoming Hideaki Anno directed animated film project codenamed "Color" (Khara). Those who meet the criteria are encouraged to email to joboffer(AT)khara.co.jp or call. What can be confirmed now as fact is Evangelion and project "Color" are connected and the proof can be found on GAINAX's official EVA website. At the bottom of the page, the copyright statement has added "color" (in katakana) to the Project Eva copyright information. Other twists include the following: A whois search for the domain khara.co.jp reveals it is registered to Khara Corporation. The name Todoroki Ikki is listed as registration and tech contact. It's worth noting Anno Hideaki appeared in the movies Taste of Tea and Naisu No Mori with Todoroki Ikki. Additionally, a search on GAINAX's company overview page shows the Director's name is no longer present. This is leading many to speculate "Color / Khara" could be a spinoff studio perhaps similar to Hideo Kojima's production label "Kojima Productions" or Hayao Miyazaki's private office "Ni Bariki".

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Anno left GAiNAX? /images/graemlins/depresse.gif Really that's all I gotta say about it. I did a background check myself and everything stated on ANS panned out. Anyways, let the milking commence!!!

edit: Did a quick search and nothing came up... so if this has been brought up... well yall know the drill

- Lemar pka Chiyo

[kamillebidan]

I don't care that they're "milking" it, as long as this turns out to be something good!

[lostnomad84]

At this point it could be anything (a complete remake of Evangelion, a Zeta movie-like version of Evangelion, a continuation of Evangelion, etc...)

I remember reading somewhere Anno once said the adventures continued in his head, so I am not completely ruling out a continuation to Evangelion, but the reality of this is slim. I personally wouldn't mind seeing Evangelion redone, but there is just something blasphemous to the idea since at this point I consider Evangelion done and really Anno and Gainax should move on and just not touch it any more. I doubt they will ever stop milking it, but I think they really need to move on. However, at the same time, I think like many Evangelion fans, I wouldn't mind seeing more either. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Either case, most likely Anno is going back over Evangelion again for the _th time and adding more to it or it is a completely unrelated new series.

[Gersen]

I realy, realy, hope not /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

I don't want "today" Gainax touching Eva anymore and I especialy don't want them to pull a "Gunbuster2-like" crap with Eva /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

Can't Gainax just continue make the usual "maids stuff" they do today and let their old anime alone.

Gersen

[vtr9kvictor]

Could be someone decided to animate the Angelic Days manga.

[lostnomad84]

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Gersen said:
I realy, realy, hope not /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

I don't want "today" Gainax touching Eva anymore and I especialy don't want them to pull a "Gunbuster2-like" crap with Eva /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

Can't Gainax just continue make the usual "maids stuff" they do today and let their old anime alone.

Gersen

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That is my greatest fear. However, if the rumors are true, and if Anno is in complete control in a seperate studio, then there is hope it won't end up crappy. However, as 2 times have proven already, no one will be happy with the ending.

[Gersen]

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lostnomad84 said:
That is my greatest fear. However, if the rumors are true, and if Anno is in complete control in a seperate studio, then there is hope it won't end up crappy. However, as 2 times have proven already, no one will be happy with the ending.

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Honestly I am not realy sure if I trust "today" Anno anymore than I trust Gainax. His recent "contribution" were not that great to say the least, Re-Cutey Honey and the live movie were funny in their own twisted kind of way but they were both monuments of cheasyness (a lot more than the original serie ever was) and both rather "destroyed" the main character.

Gersen

[Lego]

ADV: Hey guys, look at all this money we have, want to make some more Eva?

Nah, that is the cynical guy in me heh.

[vtr9kvictor]

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Lego said:
ADV: Hey guys, look at all this money we have, want to make some more Eva?

Nah, that is the cynical guy in me heh.

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What's the joke Tiffany tells about Eva and Robotech? That ADV is licensed to release each exactly seven more times?

[redline]

Looks like we could be riding the coattails of another big one here folks. Just posted to www.animenewsservice.com (http://www.animenewsservice.com) :

8-8-06 (7:35AM EDT)---- "Extra Large" Evangelion Scoop In October Newtype
According to information published in the just released September, 2006 Japanese edition of Newtype Magazine, 10 years from the original series telecast their October issue will include an "extra large" scoop on Neon Genesis Evangelion. No details are given but in a teaser preview they ask readers the question "What starts happening?", and invites them to pick the next issue to find out.

[Elendil]

I don't see the point of pulling a George Lucas on the original series....but if they wanted to make a new season of eps or an OVA or even a movie, that would be pretty cool. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[Lego]

Will be interesting if he decides to redo the series. I personally think it'll be an OVA or side story with Eva's characters, maybe after the movies.

[fantasydewdrop]

Another ending? Heh, at this rate, there'll be a different ending for everyone eventually.

I say that in this version, Kaworu and Shinji get married, and Misato tells Gendo to fuck off.

Then in the next version, Misato can have him.

And in one of them, Shinji's friend that orgasms over everything millitary can marry one of those human-sized Gundam models that's comming out.

[jlazar]

Dear Gainax:


Please call me reguarding animating my "Garden of Eva" fanfiction instead. Yes, it'll have to be adult rated, but it'll make a lot of money. I'll only ask for the worldwide licensing rights as compensation.


/images/graemlins/wink.gif /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[Lum-chan]

Not even Anno's crazy enough to try and top Eva... I just don't buy it. This is either a set up, or Anno's seriously gone bat shite loco. Right now it's 50/50.

[fantasydewdrop]

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Lum-chan said:
Not even Anno's crazy enough to try and top Eva... I just don't buy it. This is either a set up, or Anno's seriously gone bat shite loco. Right now it's 50/50.

[/ QUOTE ]Wasn't Eva and FLCL basically just him venting his insanity anyways?

[johnmora]

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KasiTL said:
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Lum-chan said:
Not even Anno's crazy enough to try and top Eva... I just don't buy it. This is either a set up, or Anno's seriously gone bat shite loco. Right now it's 50/50.

[/ QUOTE ]Wasn't Eva and FLCL basically just him venting his insanity anyways?

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Anno didn't create FLCL.

[fantasydewdrop]

Really? Someone told me he did. Okay, never mind then, just Evangelion being an insane man venting, then.

[Scribble]

I read this post yesterday. Like many, I wouldn't mind seeing a "re-doing" of Eva, along Gundam lines.

However, today one other possibility occurred to me. If most of the hoopla is due to the fact that this new company has it's name on the copyright line of new Eva stuff, couldn't it just be that Anno owns part of the Eva copyright, so his new company (which could have been created for anything) gets part control of the old series merchandise, etc? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (about this being likely), copyright and merchandise issues aren't my area of expertise.

[Njr Scrawl]

*eyes bulge, mimics Shinji's screams of horror in EoE*

"I must run away, I must run away, I must run away, I must run away"

[ulkesh]

There was something said by ADV about the Live Action movie having a big announcement in the autumn:
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A major announcement about this project is going to be made sometime this fall.

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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/convention.php?id=346

Something else to throw in /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[Chiyosuke]

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KasiTL said:
Really? Someone told me he did. Okay, never mind then, just Evangelion being an insane man venting, then.

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Yup, that was Kazuya Tsurumaki, Anno's "student" (he's also one of the assistant director of EVA and directed one of the movies).

[Chiyosuke]

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Wrath of the Njr said:
*eyes bulge, mimics Shinji's screams of horror in EoE*

"I mustn't run away, I mustn't run away, I mustn't run away, I mustn't run away"

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Fixed that for ya /images/graemlins/devil.gif /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Lego]

Isn't there a Eva manga/doujin out there called "Angelic Days"? Wonder if he'll try his hand at that.

[crosbie394]

Angelic Days is my guess. A light hearted spin on eva will not cause as much annoyance to the fanbase compared to them trying to remake the original eva series and making it cack.

I wouldn't mind some OVA series around the second impact and the team that discovered adam.

[Aiia]

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KasiTL said:
I say that in this version, Kaworu and Shinji get married

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Yeah, I'd watch that. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[Njr Scrawl]

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Chiyosuke said:
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Wrath of the Njr said:
*eyes bulge, mimics Shinji's screams of horror in EoE*

"I mustn't run away, I mustn't run away, I mustn't run away, I mustn't run away"

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Fixed that for ya /images/graemlins/devil.gif /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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<font color="red">AAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGG GGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH </font>

[MrDisco]

if ganaix does it with the director's full approval and it turns out to be good then i'm all for it.

(adv's continual milking of the license notwithstanding)

[Jadawin]

Angelic Days SUCKS. Gainax please DONT animate it.
THANKS.

[mighty_vespa]

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KasiTL said:
Really? Someone told me he did.

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"Someone"? I want names. /images/graemlins/devil.gif

C'mon, folks. GAiNAX is probably going to trot out a new Evangelion animation just in time for 2015. Let's not pretend to be shocked.

[LOUiE]

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Ulkesh said:
There was something said by ADV about the Live Action movie having a big announcement in the autumn:
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A major announcement about this project is going to be made sometime this fall.

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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/convention.php?id=346

Something else to throw in /images/graemlins/happy.gif

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September 10th is still summer.

[Chiyosuke]

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MrDisco said:
if ganaix does it with the director's full approval and it turns out to be good then i'm all for it.

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Normally, I doubt they'd need Anno's approval since they OWN Eva. But since the copyright has officially changed, we could have another Stellvia and Nadesico on our hands. Of course, that's not gonna happen, just making a point. /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

[Tomcat]

While I wouldn't mind seeing some side story, a prequel, or even a continuation (or alternate universe), I would prefer if they just stop messing with the series. Whatever they make, it is most likely going to be an extreme letdown in the artwork compared to the original. I find that anime fans either love Eva, or absolutely hate it, with very few in the middle. Those that hate it won't be buying anything in this franchise, and those that love it will gripe endlessly about them messing up the character designs.

I have no faith that they won't mess up the character designs, and I know they won't be doing cel animation, and probably pull some crap out like Initial D style animation.

-TC

[fantasydewdrop]

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mighty_vespa said:
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KasiTL said:
Really? Someone told me he did.

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"Someone"? I want names. /images/graemlins/devil.gif


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o_O' . . . A friend I know in real life. . . . Stalker. . . .
I didn't know anything about FLCL, so I took his word on it....

[indigo0086]

I think all the Japanese Eva fans killed themselves already.

[ulkesh]

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LOUiE said:
September 10th is still summer.

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September is after the school holidays, so always feelt like autumn to me.

[Gatts]

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indigo0086 said:
I think all the Japanese Eva fans killed themselves already.

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Nah, who do you think buys all of that Eva merchandise that comes out every month from Gainax. The figures and pillows and stuffed dolls all have to be going someplace. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[DocWatson]

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Lego said:
Will be interesting if he decides to redo the series. I personally think it'll be an OVA or side story with Eva's characters, maybe after the movies.

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Or before? How about Misato, Ritsuko and Ryouji Kaji in college? Or an animated version of Girlfriend of Steel?

[Lego]

I always liked Ritsuko, little psycho, but interesting. I personally wouldn't be surprised if they went with something like Angelic Days, or Girlfriend of Steel like you mentioned. Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing GOS turned into a short anime.

[fantasydewdrop]

What's "Girlfriend of Steel"?

[Lego]

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KasiTL said:
What's "Girlfriend of Steel"?

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Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_Of_Steel) you go.

[Mark]

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Scribble said:
I read this post yesterday. Like many, I wouldn't mind seeing a "re-doing" of Eva, along Gundam lines.

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I hated G-Gundam, but replacing the Gundams with Eva's or Angels would be pretty damn interesting.

[Mark]

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Jim Lazar said:
Dear Gainax:

Please call me reguarding animating my "Garden of Eva" fanfiction instead. Yes, it'll have to be adult rated, but it'll make a lot of money. I'll only ask for the worldwide licensing rights as compensation.

/images/graemlins/wink.gif /images/graemlins/happy.gif

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Dear Jim:

I've always loved this series. Please don't forget your fans if you do get rich and famous.

[fantasydewdrop]

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Lego said:
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KasiTL said:
What's "Girlfriend of Steel"?

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Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_Of_Steel) you go.

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Oooh, that would be pretty interesting. I wonder if they would actually pick an ending to be cannon, or would just produce all three and you just pick which one you want on the DVD?

[Gersen]

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KasiTL said:
I wonder if they would actually pick an ending to be cannon, or would just produce all three and you just pick which one you want on the DVD?

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Well they already did, the movie ending is supposed to be cannon.

Gersen

[kamillebidan]

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Jadawin said:
Angelic Days SUCKS. Gainax please DONT animate it.
THANKS.

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Ditto for Girlfriend of Steel! Man, reading through this thread. I was beginning to get a little worried that I was the only sane one here. Thank you...

Anyway, I don't think it would be anything that ridiculous. My guess is that this will probably be a prequel of some kind that adds to the story, not one that completely rewrites it. Or maybe this will just be about the live-action movie... hopefully, it got canned and they're making this OVA or whatever it is instead? I really hope that live-action movie never gets made...

[chloes_fork]

Not really all that informative, but just to add a little more fuel to the speculation fire, Anime News Service (http://www.animenewsservice.com) has the following report, dated September 3:

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Due on Japanese newstands in less than 1 week, some advertisements for the October, 2006 edition of Newtype Magazine have been circulating around hyping their big Evangelion scoop. The cover will supposedly read 'REBUILD OF EVANGELION'.

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They also have a small scan of the ad. Sounds like we might know something of substance in the next few days.

[Elendil]

And now ANS says this....

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9-6-06 (4:50AM EDT)---- Unconfirmed: New Evangelion Anime Details

The following is totally unconfirmed: The title for the new film series is "Evangelion Shin Gekijou Ban", it will consist of 4 parts with the first part arriving in Japanese theaters in early summer, 2007. Staff include General Supervisor: Hideaki Anno, Director: Tsurumaki Kazuya , Character Design: Yoshiyuki Sadamoto, Mecha Design: Ikuto Yamashita, Animation Production: Khara (Color) Studio. The scenario of the 1st part will be written by Hideaki Anno with storyboard by Shinji Higuchi. Key points of a supposed interview which may or may not appear in the forthcoming edition of Newtype attributed to Toshimichi Ohtsuki of King Records have also been circulating. According to that information:
-The content is quite different though the time base of the story is the same as the original TV series.
- It will be a remake, however, it is not a re-creation but a "new work".
- The approach will be different than what Tomino-san did with the Gundam Z New Translation films, there will apparantly be a large amount of new material.
- Even if the TV series has not be seen, the viewer will be able to enjoy it. Though the content becomes easy, it is not redundant to those already familiar with the series.
- The technique that purposely scatters difficult words and phrases will not be used any longer.
- As an antithesis to current animation industry segments. It is an attitude on the production side to pull the act in the age that started from Eva.

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Hmmm.....

[Gersen]

Babblefish powaaaaa... It would be nice if a japanese speaking poster could provide a more "understandable" translation, I have no idea what the hell "- As an antithesis to current animation industry segments. It is an attitude on the production side to pull the act in the age that started from Eva. mean /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

Anyway I can't help but being woried by that, it will be a "new work" with different content which mean a different story, the whole The technique that purposely scatters difficult words and phrases will not be used any longer sound to me like we are not going to put complicated things the average mainstream user might not be able understand, and let's not mention Gainax recent "anime" (Yeah I know it's Color and not Gainax but still) /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

I hope Anno is not going to make a "FLCL meet Mahoromatic" Eva, like Gainax did for Cra... heu... Diebuster /images/graemlins/depresse.gif.

Gersen

[Bibulb]

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Gersen said:
... the whole The technique that purposely scatters difficult words and phrases will not be used any longer sound to me like we are not going to put complicated things the average mainstream user might not be able understand ...

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"We're no longer going to rely on 'reverse the polarity of the neutron flow!' as a primary substitute for dramatic tension."

I mean, I love Ritsuko and all, but when her shouting random pseudo-scienticrap is the only way of communicating "somethin' bad happen", it gets old after a while - especially if you're trying something new with the same root material.

[lostnomad84]

I don't exactly know what to think of this. When I read the news, at first glace I get the impression of something equivalent to Bubble Gum Crisis remade as 2040. Then when I see the comment on the Zeta Gundam movies, I get the impression it is the same universe, but the story is planned out differently.

Ugh... Anno is already messing with my head.

[kamillebidan]

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Gersen said:
Babblefish powaaaaa... It would be nice if a japanese speaking poster could provide a more "understandable" translation, I have no idea what the hell "- As an antithesis to current animation industry segments. It is an attitude on the production side to pull the act in the age that started from Eva. mean /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

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I think what they're trying to say is that they want this new production to be striking different from anything else out there - a revolutionary event that dynamically changes Japanese animation as a whole, like the Eva TV series did 10 years ago.

Oh hell yeah. This is going to be awesome.

[redline]

Scans of October Newtype backing up information:
www.animenewsservice.com (http://www.animenewsservice.com)

[Gersen]

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Kamille Bidan said:
Oh hell yeah. This is going to be awesome.

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Well I find you a little over optimistic. That's not the first time we are promised a revolution /images/graemlins/wink.gif Given Gainax and even Anno recent track record, add that their "we are not going to make something too complicated" like quote, we have all the reason to be woried. I feel like will are going to have a "FLCL meet Evangelion" like anime /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

Gersen

[golthin]

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Gersen said:
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Kamille Bidan said:
Oh hell yeah. This is going to be awesome.

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Well I find you a little over optimistic. That's not the first time we are promised a revolution /images/graemlins/wink.gif Given Gainax and even Anno recent track record, add that their "we are not going to make something too complicated" like quote, we have all the reason to be woried. I feel like will are going to have a "FLCL meet Evangelion" like anime /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

Gersen

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Gainax have not had any winners in a while, right now Kyo-ani, JC staff and Sunrise are having the most sucesseful shows.

[Vallen Valiant]

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golthin said:
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Gersen said:
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Kamille Bidan said:
Oh hell yeah. This is going to be awesome.

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Well I find you a little over optimistic. That's not the first time we are promised a revolution /images/graemlins/wink.gif Given Gainax and even Anno recent track record, add that their "we are not going to make something too complicated" like quote, we have all the reason to be woried. I feel like will are going to have a "FLCL meet Evangelion" like anime /images/graemlins/depresse.gif

Gersen

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Gainax have not had any winners in a while, right now Kyo-ani, JC staff and Sunrise are having the most sucesseful shows.

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KyoAni? definitely.
JC staff? I will accept that.

But Sunrise? I will rather watch "This ugly and beautiful world", arguably the worst Gainax work, over most recent Sunrise products.

I am not expecting ground-breaking stuff, but there is no reason to believe Gainax is dead and buried. They have talented people in their midst still, and I will give a crack at it.

I'm excited, but I'm waiting to see what happens with the first movie before I make any decisions. I remember how much I freaking hate the second movie and the crushing blow it delievered to my Eva-fandom.

[Perfect_Cell]

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redxxii said:
I'm excited, but I'm waiting to see what happens with the first movie before I make any decisions. I remember how much I freaking hate the second movie and the crushing blow it delievered to my Eva-fandom.

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I gonna bet its going to end in a even more crazy and questionable way. What are the odds that these movies are going to be simple?

[something]

Four new movies (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=9464). Article at ANN.

I find this hilarious, but you can be damn sure I will be getting all four.

Edit: original post could use a subject change now, or maybe this should be it's own thread since it's finally s[ecific official news. Either way though, this is one of the bigger anime related announcements in recent years.

Edit2: nevermind, reread the post from a few days ago and that already mentioned the 4-part idea. Guess this isn't quite so new.

[XenoCrisis0153]

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Elendil said:
And now ANS says this....

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9-6-06 (4:50AM EDT)---- Unconfirmed: New Evangelion Anime Details
- The technique that purposely scatters difficult words and phrases will not be used any longer.

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oh no... if you ask me, this is one of the most powerful tools of the show. It visualized the breakdown of the human psyche by throwing emotion-charged words at us. Words like "rape" "abandon" "mother" "hate" "kill" "suicide" just showed how sick and twisted these characters were deep down inside. Delving into the psychotic inner-workings of deranged orphan children is what gives NGE it's charm.

[golthin]

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Vallen Chaos Valiant said:
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golthin said:
But Sunrise? I will rather watch "This ugly and beautiful world", arguably the worst Gainax work, over most recent Sunrise products.


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Whatever you think of sunrise's show, Mai-hime and Mai-Otome were super successful. keroro gunso is also very successful and still going strong at 125 episodes.

[Vallen Valiant]

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golthin said:
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Vallen Chaos Valiant said:
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golthin said:
But Sunrise? I will rather watch "This ugly and beautiful world", arguably the worst Gainax work, over most recent Sunrise products.


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Whatever you think of sunrise's show, Mai-hime and Mai-Otome were super successful. keroro gunso is also very successful and still going strong at 125 episodes.

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I agree that Keroro Gunso is a fun ride, and Mai Hime was good cheese, but it is only a tiny proportion of Sunrise's products.
And are we talking about success in terms of money earned, or critic acclaim? Gainax never really made things for the sake of earning millions; that's what Sunrise is used to, with their giant marketing machine. Ganiax "milks" Eva far less comparatively, especially since most of the related merchandise were made in limited numbers.

I just fail to see why you would believe Gainax is less likely to make good anime than Sunrise.

[kamillebidan]

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XenoCrisis0153 said:
oh no... if you ask me, this is one of the most powerful tools of the show. It visualized the breakdown of the human psyche by throwing emotion-charged words at us. Words like "rape" "abandon" "mother" "hate" "kill" "suicide" just showed how sick and twisted these characters were deep down inside. Delving into the psychotic inner-workings of deranged orphan children is what gives NGE it's charm.

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You know, there are other ways that they can get the same point across without giving the audience a migrane...

[XenoCrisis0153]

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Kamille Bidan said:
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XenoCrisis0153 said:
oh no... if you ask me, this is one of the most powerful tools of the show. It visualized the breakdown of the human psyche by throwing emotion-charged words at us. Words like "rape" "abandon" "mother" "hate" "kill" "suicide" just showed how sick and twisted these characters were deep down inside. Delving into the psychotic inner-workings of deranged orphan children is what gives NGE it's charm.

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You know, there are other ways that they can get the same point across without giving the audience a migrane...

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it's more subliminal this way. It kinda sinks in without you even realizing it. You see it for literally a quarter of a second, hardly enough time to read it, yet you still understand it. It's like they're sending it straight into your head.

you and I must be different. I never got a headache from it. To each his own, I suppose.

[tstidm1]

I wonder if this is also going to be the front page story for Newtype USA in October. They are starting to bring in more Japanese cover stories more quickly into America. This would get the magazines moving because there is still a large Eva hardcore base in America. CJ, Do you want to respond to this thought? /images/graemlins/devil.gif

[Lum-chan]

I am of the opinion that this will blow... Blow harder than the attempted "random is cool" factor of Melody of Oblivion mixed with the "should not have even been attempted" sequelitus of DieBuster. Gainax has apparently lost all originality and now (like Disney) can only milk its old properties for revenue... For shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame, Gainax... For shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame...

[Lego]

[ QUOTE ]
Lum-chan said:
I am of the opinion that this will blow... Blow harder than the attempted "random is cool" factor of Melody of Oblivion mixed with the "should not have even been attempted" sequelitus of DieBuster. Gainax has apparently lost all originality and now (like Disney) can only milk its old properties for revenue... For shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame, Gainax... For shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame...

[/ QUOTE ]

I liked the music in MoO. As for the new "Eva movies", I think they have a chance to be decent. I'll at least give them a chance before I go "Zomg suxors!" at them. With the original team returning, I can see how this can be a great project, or it could fail miserably trying to be the Eva of old. I'm reserving my judgement until I see the finish product.

Although I do agree with one thing that Lum said. Gainax seems to be grapsing at straws after their last two or three series. Eva is a huge money maker for them, so was only a matter of time until they reintroduced Eva.

[lostnomad84]

[ QUOTE ]
Lego said:
[ QUOTE ]
Lum-chan said:
I am of the opinion that this will blow... Blow harder than the attempted "random is cool" factor of Melody of Oblivion mixed with the "should not have even been attempted" sequelitus of DieBuster. Gainax has apparently lost all originality and now (like Disney) can only milk its old properties for revenue... For shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame, Gainax... For shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame...

[/ QUOTE ]

I liked the music in MoO. As for the new "Eva movies", I think they have a chance to be decent. I'll at least give them a chance before I go "Zomg suxors!" at them. With the original team returning, I can see how this can be a great project, or it could fail miserably trying to be the Eva of old. I'm reserving my judgement until I see the finish product.

Although I do agree with one thing that Lum said. Gainax seems to be grapsing at straws after their last two or three series. Eva is a huge money maker for them, so was only a matter of time until they reintroduced Eva.

[/ QUOTE ]

Evangelion is the only series they've ever made money on and still continue to make money on. It is a no-brainer for them to make more financially, but what truely surprises me is that Anno is on board after saying no for so many years. Either the money is pushing him or he truely wants to tell more.

[ QUOTE ]
Redneck Otaku said:
I wonder if this is also going to be the front page story for Newtype USA in October. They are starting to bring in more Japanese cover stories more quickly into America. This would get the magazines moving because there is still a large Eva hardcore base in America. CJ, Do you want to respond to this thought? /images/graemlins/devil.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

In October, no (that issue's already done and gone). There will be a little bit of lag time, but I think we'd be remiss not to put this in NTUSA as soon as possible.

- CJ

[GetterBeam]

Well, there's a few things we can at least guess at IMO:

-Fantastic score for all 4 movies. I'm actually curious how they will pull this off since I'd be amazed if they can get away with using the same score for 4 movies straight. Lord help them if any of the movies have terrible music to it...deja vu is too powerful a force in Eva to not come out strong on the music.

-ADV pre-licence?

-Why do I have this pain in the pit of my stomach that I seem to think indicating that this could be a tool for attempting a big time HD Blu-Ray/HDDVD/etc anime push? I mean, what better for them to use to try and force the new tech than something with as much clout as Eva?

-This will surely have some sort of effect on the SRW franchise in a big way. Pretty much, however much the New GaiKing winds up having plus 10 times 1,000.

-Will they spring to get as many of the classic VA's back as possible...or will they crap out on us like the sad case with Saint Seiya Hades: Chapter Inferno?

[PhilipReuben]

[ QUOTE ]
GetterBeam said:
-Will they spring to get as many of the classic VA's back as possible...or will they crap out on us like the sad case with Saint Seiya Hades: Chapter Inferno?

[/ QUOTE ]

The original VAs appear in every second-rate Eva video game that comes out, so I can't imagine they won't be used for the new movies.

[GyBaNO]

[ QUOTE ]
Lum-chan said:
I am of the opinion that this will blow... Blow harder than the attempted "random is cool" factor of Melody of Oblivion mixed with the "should not have even been attempted" sequelitus of DieBuster. Gainax has apparently lost all originality and now (like Disney) can only milk its old properties for revenue... For shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame, Gainax... For shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame...

[/ QUOTE ]

I lol'ed!

[Tomcat]

[ QUOTE ]
GetterBeam said:
-Why do I have this pain in the pit of my stomach that I seem to think indicating that this could be a tool for attempting a big time HD Blu-Ray/HDDVD/etc anime push? I mean, what better for them to use to try and force the new tech than something with as much clout as Eva?

[/ QUOTE ]
I had not thought of that yet, but I can only imagine that this will likely not be the case. I think that we probably won't see the first movie released in the US until 2008 or 2009, and by then, I sure hope that this whole HD Next Generation issue is decided on a format, or has went the way of the LaserDisc. Honestly, I don't see that the average person is going to know the difference, or really care, except they will buy into the commercial mentality and buy it because they are told that they "need" it.

[ QUOTE ]
-Will they spring to get as many of the classic VA's back as possible...or will they crap out on us like the sad case with Saint Seiya Hades: Chapter Inferno?

[/ QUOTE ]
They at least have to have Hayashibara, Ogata, Miyamura and Mitsuishi back as the seiyuu for their respective characters. Without their voices, the character's fans will scream murder, and the movies will not be well received.

-TC

[something]

[ QUOTE ]
GetterBeam said:
-Why do I have this pain in the pit of my stomach that I seem to think indicating that this could be a tool for attempting a big time HD Blu-Ray/HDDVD/etc anime push?

[/ QUOTE ]
Not gonna happen unless they want to completely screw themselves out of a shitload of sales. They can release in both formats if they want, but it would be suicide to bypass DVD.

[J-Syxx]

I'm so sick of hearing about Evangelion. Where's my Battle Athlets movie? /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

[aquapermanence]

[ QUOTE ]
Dinco said:
I'm so sick of hearing about Evangelion. Where's my Battle Athlets movie? /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Hiroki Hayashi is too busy not working on the Magical Project S movie, the continuation of Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040, and the second season of Battle Programmer Shirase to make it.

That or he's hiding in a closet with Seikou Nagaoka and Nahoko Hasegawa until Kajishima goes back to working on porn.

[Redcoffin]

All I want is a different ending. <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>I want the ending where Shinji gets his act together and saves everything at the last moment, and nobody gets gooped. I'd even settle for a cold reset ending--which is normally a cop-out I hate. </span> Is that too much to ask? Just an ending that doesn't suck.

[And, is it even worth putting spoiler tags on a comment about Evangelion? Is there anyone left in the world to spoil?]

Do I remember right that Yoshiyuki Sadamoto is on record somewhere as saying he did not like the story line of the last part of the series, all the way through to E-of-E? And that his manga was an attempt to re-tell the story differently, except that he got bogged down doing profitable stuff like game art and never finished it. Does any of that sound vaguely true? Just asking... /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[mrgazpacho]

[ QUOTE ]
Hiyo_2366 said:
All I want is a different ending. <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>I want the ending where Shinji gets his act together and saves everything at the last moment, and nobody gets gooped. I'd even settle for a cold reset ending--which is normally a cop-out I hate. </span> Is that too much to ask?


[/ QUOTE ]

I don't believe the TV ending precludes that scenario.

[Gersen]

[ QUOTE ]
Hiyo_2366 said:
All I want is a different ending. <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>I want the ending where Shinji gets his act together and saves everything at the last moment, and nobody gets gooped. I'd even settle for a cold reset ending--which is normally a cop-out I hate. </span> Is that too much to ask? Just an ending that doesn't suck.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well that's exactily what happen in the movie <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>he refuse the instrumentality allowing everybody who want to come back (Well probably except those who died before the third impact started)</span>

Gersen

[golthin]

[ QUOTE ]
mrgazpacho said:
[ QUOTE ]
Hiyo_2366 said:
All I want is a different ending. <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>I want the ending where Shinji gets his act together and saves everything at the last moment, and nobody gets gooped. I'd even settle for a cold reset ending--which is normally a cop-out I hate. </span> Is that too much to ask?


[/ QUOTE ]

I don't believe the TV ending precludes that scenario.

[/ QUOTE ]Actually the TV ending let the viewer know that there are infinite possibilities as to what can happen. Shinji only have to wish for it. The Doujinshi Re-Take
by Studio KIMIGABUCHI explores the many possibilities of shinji wishing a different past so he can fix his mistakes.

[Tomcat]

[ QUOTE ]
Gersen said:
Well that's exactily what happen in the movie <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>he refuse the instrumentality allowing everybody who want to come back (Well probably except those who died before the third impact started)</span>

[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>I thought that once he started instrumentality, then refused it, he opened up both worlds to the choices of other, so those that wanted to return to "normal" life could, or those that wanted to stay merged could. Of course, that assumed that they didn't die first...</span>

-TC

[Gersen]

[ QUOTE ]
Tomcat said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>I thought that once he started instrumentality,</span>

[/ QUOTE ]

<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>He is not the one who started instrumentality, it's Rei who did it</span>

[ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> he opened up both worlds to the choices of other, so those that wanted to return to "normal" life could, or those that wanted to stay merged could. Of course, that assumed that they didn't die first...</span>

[/ QUOTE ]

<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>When Shinji refused instrumentality, we see all the souls being releassed, so I guess thoses who don't want to come back just... well... die.</span>

Gersen

[Tomcat]

[ QUOTE ]
Gersen said:
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>He is not the one who started instrumentality, it's Rei who did it</span>

[/ QUOTE ]
<span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>Well, while this is true, I actually meant that he first accepted instrumentality, and then rejected it. Yeah, he didn't start it, as that was Rei, I think in reaction to Gendo, but Rei gave the decision of the outcome to him.</span>

I wouldn't want to be part of instrumentality, but it certainly would solve loads of things to be so connected to everyone else.

-TC

[MrNice]

[ QUOTE ]
Tomcat said:
I wouldn't want to be part of instrumentality, but it certainly would solve loads of things to be so connected to everyone else.

-TC

[/ QUOTE ]Yes, but could you go to work the next morning if they suddenly knew what you really thought about them? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Tomcat]

[ QUOTE ]
Mr. Nice said:
Yes, but could you go to work the next morning if they suddenly knew what you really thought about them? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
I'm usually pretty open with co-workers about what I think about them...

But, part of Instrumentality that struck me... I don't think there really IS work... Or life, for that matter.

And, the other part, since much of the hard feelings are a result of either misunderstanding or miscommunications. If everyone knew exactly what everyone was thinking from the start, minor conflicts would be much reduced...

But, then you'd have your odd psychopath, and it's throw every out of whack!

-TC

[Kristoffer]

New Info:

Four Evangelion Movies in the Works
Source: Variety
September 11, 2006


Toon maker Gainax will produce four theatrical features in its iconic "Evangelion" series. The films, the first in nearly a decade, are based on the 26-part TV series that launched the worldwide "Evangelion" boom in the 1990s.

The first, helmed by Gainax veteran Shinji Higuchi, will be released in July, the second in January and the third and fourth on a double bill in June 2008. They'll be distributed by Klockworx.

The first three pics will borrow some images from the TV show, but with new backgrounds and soundtracks. The stories of the third and final will be brand-new, in response to the many fans who were dissatisfied with the ending of the two "Evangelion" pics directed by Hideaki Anno and released in 1997.

All four will incorporate far more 3-D animation technology than the original features and series.

The "Evangelion" series, about teenagers who pilot huge robot warriors against invading aliens while struggling with the issues of adolescence, began as a cult hit on Japanese TV.

Hmmm don't know.

[canaryfarmer]

[ QUOTE ]
Kris7 said:
The "Evangelion" series, about teenagers who pilot huge robot warriors against invading aliens...

[/ QUOTE ]

Heavens, if it was only that simple. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[jlazar]

[ QUOTE ]
canaryfarmer said:
[ QUOTE ]
Kris7 said:
The "Evangelion" series, about teenagers who pilot huge robot warriors against invading aliens...

[/ QUOTE ]

Heavens, if it was only that simple. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, plus the Evas aren't robots and the angels aren't aliens... well maybe if 4kids gets the rights. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Gersen]

[ QUOTE ]
canaryfarmer said:
[ QUOTE ]
Kris7 said:
The "Evangelion" series, about teenagers who pilot huge robot warriors against invading aliens...

[/ QUOTE ]

Heavens, if it was only that simple. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, they completly forgot to mention there was a penguin /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif.

Gersen

[golthin]

[ QUOTE ]
Jim Lazar said:
[ QUOTE ]
canaryfarmer said:
[ QUOTE ]
Kris7 said:
The "Evangelion" series, about teenagers who pilot huge robot warriors against invading aliens...

[/ QUOTE ]

Heavens, if it was only that simple. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, plus the Evas aren't robots and the angels aren't aliens... well maybe if 4kids gets the rights. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
The writer of the article probably have not watched Eva and was assigned the article as a promo. At least with this Gainax doesn't have to burn too many brain cells thinking of something new to produce till the end of 2008.

[Gersen]

[ QUOTE ]
golthin said:
At least with this Gainax doesn't have to burn too many brain cells thinking of something new to produce till the end of 2008.

[/ QUOTE ]

And I wouldn't be surprised if in 2009 we end up with "Nadia Resurection" or something like that /images/graemlins/relief.gif

Gersen

[Kristoffer]

He he. I am just the messenger! I didn't write it. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[Bibulb]

[ QUOTE ]
Jim Lazar said:
[ QUOTE ]
canaryfarmer said:
[ QUOTE ]
Kris7 said:
The "Evangelion" series, about teenagers who pilot huge robot warriors against invading aliens...

[/ QUOTE ]

Heavens, if it was only that simple. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, plus the Evas aren't robots and the angels aren't aliens... well maybe if 4kids gets the rights. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Hell, it's Variety - I'm just glad we didn't get "KIDS AND BOTS ZAP BUGS WITH GUNS". (I can imagine their editors looking at a synopsis of Eva and tearing their hair out shouting "HOW THE HELL DO YOU REDUCE THIS TO ONE SENTENCE?!")

[mrgazpacho]

[ QUOTE ]
canaryfarmer said:
[ QUOTE ]
Kris7 said:
The "Evangelion" series, about teenagers who pilot huge robot warriors against invading aliens...

[/ QUOTE ]

Heavens, if it was only that simple. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

To be fair, it is actually the best way to summarise /images/graemlins/happy.gif

It's the way the series starts, and remember what Ritsuko said to Gendo halfway through: "If Misato or Shinji ever found out <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>what the Evas really are</span>, they'd never forgive us"

[Shsway]

[ QUOTE ]
Gersen said:
And I wouldn't be surprised if in 2009 we end up with "Nadia Resurection" or something like that /images/graemlins/relief.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Give the lead a couple of big guns, some black leather and I'm there! /images/graemlins/blush000.gif /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

I'm highly amused/ticked by all of these new rumors. I can't wait to see what the result will be, if anything. Unless it sucks. *Loved both the TV series and final movie endings*

[Kristoffer]

News:

10-19-06 (9:29AM EDT)---- World Exclusive: Rebuild Of Evangelion Updates
Tonight we met up with Evangelion Producer Toshimichi Ootsuki in Akihabara. According to Ootsuki-san the "contents" for the "1st part" of the new Rebuild Of Evangelion movies is now complete. The animation staff is also very close to being fully assembled. Building on past hints (the cover image of the October, 2006 issue of Newtype Magazine) Kaworu Nagisa and Rei Ayanami will be central characters in this new story. The theme of the "first part" movie will feature the characters in a school setting prior to the arrival of the angels.
http://www.animenewsservice.com/
/images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

[aquapermanence]

[ QUOTE ]
Kris7 said:
The theme of the "first part" movie will feature the characters in a school setting prior to the arrival of the angels.

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif Fluffy high-school fanservice comedy! ...maybe?

Wait, they're 14, so make that middle-school.

Unless by "prior" they mean elementary-school age.

/images/graemlins/depresse.gif Wasn't Rei raised in a dank basement?

[ QUOTE ]
aquapermanence said:
[ QUOTE ]
Kris7 said:
The theme of the "first part" movie will feature the characters in a school setting prior to the arrival of the angels.

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif Fluffy high-school fanservice comedy! ...maybe?

Wait, they're 14, so make that middle-school.
Unless by "prior" they mean elementary-school age.

/images/graemlins/depresse.gif Wasn't Rei raised in a dank basement?

[/ QUOTE ]

well the first angel arrived when Shinji got there /images/graemlins/wink.gif
So it'll probably be a few weeks before that, or even a year /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Gersen]

[ QUOTE ]
Kris7 said:
The theme of the "first part" movie will feature the characters in a school setting prior to the arrival of the angels.

[/ QUOTE ]

Looks like Gainax decided to concentrate on most important part of Evangelion story... Asuka en Rei in school uniform /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

doesn't surprise me just wonder how long it will take for one of the girls to appear dressed in maid outfit /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Gersen

[Kenderoth]

[ QUOTE ]
Kris7 said:
News:

10-19-06 (9:29AM EDT)---- World Exclusive: Rebuild Of Evangelion Updates
Tonight we met up with Evangelion Producer Toshimichi Ootsuki in Akihabara. According to Ootsuki-san the "contents" for the "1st part" of the new Rebuild Of Evangelion movies is now complete. The animation staff is also very close to being fully assembled. Building on past hints (the cover image of the October, 2006 issue of Newtype Magazine) Kaworu Nagisa and Rei Ayanami will be central characters in this new story. The theme of the "first part" movie will feature the characters in a school setting prior to the arrival of the angels.
http://www.animenewsservice.com/
/images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
Sounds as though they wanted to do more of somthing with the idea of Angelic Days, Its set in a school so the Concept is the same as Angelic Days just without nothing ever happening with the angels.

[J-Syxx]

[ QUOTE ]
Gersen said:
[ QUOTE ]
Kris7 said:
The theme of the "first part" movie will feature the characters in a school setting prior to the arrival of the angels.

[/ QUOTE ]

Looks like Gainax decided to concentrate on most important part of Evangelion story... Asuka en Rei in school uniform /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

doesn't surprise me just wonder how long it will take for one of the girls to appear dressed in maid /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Gersen

[/ QUOTE ]

Am I the only one who doesn't find them remotely attractive, even just by looks?

[chloes_fork]

[ QUOTE ]
Dinco said:
Am I the only one who doesn't find them remotely attractive, even just by looks?

[/ QUOTE ]
(conducts quick poll of entire planetary population)

Yes. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Galexia]

[ QUOTE ]
Dinco said:
Am I the only one who doesn't find them remotely attractive, even just by looks?

[/ QUOTE ]


Asuka is pretty. Her personality leaves much to be desired. At least she's interesting.

Rei is well, um... at the risk of getting beaten up by 1000 obsessive fanboys (and who knows how many fangirls) ... I really do not see anything attractive about her. I mean, she has the personality of a cardboard box. Maybe guys like the fact that she is so submissive.

/images/graemlins/cry00000.gif Don't hurt me.

At least Misato is pretty and interesting.

[Fort Max]

[ QUOTE ]
Gersen said:
[ QUOTE ]
Kris7 said:
The theme of the "first part" movie will feature the characters in a school setting prior to the arrival of the angels.

[/ QUOTE ]

Looks like Gainax decided to concentrate on most important part of Evangelion story... Asuka en Rei in school uniform /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

doesn't surprise me just wonder how long it will take for one of the girls to appear dressed in maid outfit /images/graemlins/happy.gif

Gersen

[/ QUOTE ]


Well they do have an awful lot of um.. "artistically licensed" Garage kits to animate...

Just let me know when the Evas come in. :p

[Tomcat]

[ QUOTE ]
Galexia said:
Rei is well, um... at the risk of getting beaten up by 1000 obsessive fanboys (and who knows how many fangirls) ... I really do not see anything attractive about her. I mean, she has the personality of a cardboard box. Maybe guys like the fact that she is so submissive.

[/ QUOTE ]
Well... Rei is an enigma. Lots of people find mystery to be incredibly interesting, and a challenge. And, I mean this in real life as well as in anime.

In a classical "takes one to know one" sense, Rei is an introvert. She is the poster girl for introversion. People that are extroverts see introverts as having no personality, or otherwise stupid or damaged. It's simply not true. Many introverts are actually incredibly gifted and intelligent.

And, most introverts get along best with other introverts, and often recognize them right away. The unfortunate part is that they generally won't take the initiative to approach each other, so don't often actually connect. Friendships and other relationships between two introverts are often very, very deep, and very long lasting.

So... Honestly, Rei has a very interesting personality, and is also portrayed in a way that she seems both very gifted and incredibly intelligent. Most extroverts are unlikely to notice, but if you watch with in mind, you really can't miss it. Rei often does not intrude with her thought, OR her actions, but when she does speak, or act, it's usually very important.

Fanboy or not, Rei is actually my favorite anime character from any series, and Evangelion actually has two of my top three females characters... But, I don't really like the story, or the twisted (sick) mind of Anno. Rei has a very similar personality to my own, just a lot more extreme, and I'm already an extremely introverted person.

Misato is my other favorite, and is also somewhat an introvert.

-TC

[Serial Experiments Nobue]

[ QUOTE ]
Tomcat said:
And, most introverts get along best with other introverts, and often recognize them right away. The unfortunate part is that they generally won't take the initiative to approach each other, so don't often actually connect. Friendships and other relationships between two introverts are often very, very deep, and very long lasting.

[/ QUOTE ]

And this would be the "Hedgehog's Dilemma". /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[chloes_fork]

Excellent post, and an interesting perspective (though I'm more an Asuka man myself).

[krelyan]

I don't know if I agree with that. I would consider myself, I suppose, an introvert, yet I also found Rei to be rather boring and dull. It was an interesting read though.

[Tomcat]

[ QUOTE ]
Serial Experiments NieA said:
And this would be the "Hedgehog's Dilemma".

[/ QUOTE ]
That would probably be accurate. I don't know that I would have used that analogy if it weren't used in NGE first.

[ QUOTE ]
chloes_fork said:
Excellent post, and an interesting perspective (though I'm more an Asuka man myself).

[/ QUOTE ]
This is probably more accurately the Hedgehog's Dilemma. Shinji is clearly introverted as well. He certainly finds Asuka interesting, but knows that she is extroverted, and would he'd end up getting hurt from the relationship. Most relationships between introverts and extroverts are painful in the end, something that "love" can't overcome. The differences between the two are just too great. Extroverts are more apt to want to be around other people, where introverts are least comfortable in large social settings. That alone puts lots of stress on both parties.

I definitely think that Asuka is interesting, and I truly feel sorry for her for her unhappiness, but as an introvert, I would never be able to develop a strong bond with such a person. Physically, she is very attractive. Probably number 2 only to Misato.

Hedgehog dilemma may also describe the relationship between Misato and Kaji.

[ QUOTE ]
Krelyan said:
I don't know if I agree with that. I would consider myself, I suppose, an introvert, yet I also found Rei to be rather boring and dull. It was an interesting read though.

[/ QUOTE ]
I speak only in generalities, and from personal experience. Certainly introverts are boring, and usually have rather dry humor. That's not to say that extroverts don't sometimes display those qualities. I'd say that anime probably has a larger share of introverts than the general population. It's also not a black and white issue, most people lay in the middle of the scale. I know where I fit only because of lots of tests and research.

I fall somewhere on the scale close to being an extreme introvert, but not completely 100% introverted. This means that I find most things that extroverts to be extremely boring. I absolutely hate parties, or large social settings. There is absolutely nothing fun in that for me. I don't go to anime or sci-fi conventions because of this, even though I'm an extreme anime and sci-fi fan. It's just not fun for me. When I do go to something like this, I'm interested in the products, so I'd check out the vendors, and galleries, or under the hoods of cars, or... but I'd never want to talk shop with anyone. It's just not interesting.

But, I'm not the extreme case. I don't shy away from online discussions, and I'm quite opinionated and forceful at work. Actually, I'm quote opinionated online also.

Rei II is more extreme than I am. The Angelic Days one doesn't seem to be that way, and Rei I and Rei III are less extreme than Rei II.

So... I think my point is that not all people are going to find the same people to be interesting, and depending on where you are on the scale, you might have other findings. There are lots of aspects that affect who you find attractive or interesting. Science only points to SOME of those aspects. Some people make mistakes that end up causing them much pain, like I did in my first (and only) marriage.

-TC

*wonders why he's long winded on this topic.*

[kamillebidan]

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Krelyan said:
I don't know if I agree with that. I would consider myself, I suppose, an introvert, yet I also found Rei to be rather boring and dull. It was an interesting read though.

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Same here. I'm as introverted as it gets, but I'm definitely more drawn to Misato.

[Fort Max]

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*wonders why he's long winded on this topic.*

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Beacuse it's clearly important to you and that's easy to understand. I'm kind of the same way myself and NGE actually helped me to understand why I never seemed to fit in anywhere.

[chloes_fork]

This site (http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/11/12/more-details-on-new-evangelion-project/) contains a good bit of new detail about "Rebuild of Evangelion" -- mainly the first movie -- said to be culled from a recent issue of Newtype Japan.

[mighty_vespa]

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This site (http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/11/12/more-details-on-new-evangelion-project/) contains a good bit of new detail about "Rebuild of Evangelion" -- mainly the first movie -- said to be culled from a recent issue of Newtype Japan.

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And the "Lucas Parallels" are kicked into an even HIGHER gear. Nice. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Is this guy's blog translating that article word for word, or is he just giving his own blow-by-blow impressions? Seems like the latter.

The idea of the NERV logo change seems a bit silly. First, the halved fig leaf is one of the the most recognizable logos in fandom. And now they may want to change it to a half-bitten apple ("Ha!", says Lord Jobs), while SEELE gets an apple and a snake?

Wow GAiNAX. How very anvilicious of you. /images/graemlins/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Panon]

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mighty_vespa said:And the "Lucas Parallels" are kicked into an even HIGHER gear. Nice. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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I wish people would knock it off with the "Lucas" crap, because last I checked this is a remake, an alternate version of Evangelion and not Anno taking Eva TV, splattering CG and inappropriate new scenes all over it and attempting to bury the original.

[nekonene]

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mighty_vespa said:And the "Lucas Parallels" are kicked into an even HIGHER gear. Nice. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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I wish people would knock it off with the "Lucas" crap, because last I checked this is a remake, an alternate version of Evangelion and not Anno taking Eva TV, splattering CG and inappropriate new scenes all over it and attempting to bury the original.

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So, who shoots first: Gendo or Ritsuko? /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

[AbeChinchilla]

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golthin said:
At least with this Gainax doesn't have to burn too many brain cells thinking of something new to produce till the end of 2008.

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And I wouldn't be surprised if in 2009 we end up with "Nadia Resurection" or something like that /images/graemlins/relief.gif

Gersen

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Oh, God. I've love that.

(trailer starts up)

Coming Soon...

(cue eyecatch music/voices)

THE SECRET BLUE WATER!!!

[Mitsuki]

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Panon said:
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mighty_vespa said:And the "Lucas Parallels" are kicked into an even HIGHER gear. Nice. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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I wish people would knock it off with the "Lucas" crap, because last I checked this is a remake, an alternate version of Evangelion and not Anno taking Eva TV, splattering CG and inappropriate new scenes all over it and attempting to bury the original.

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So, who shoots first: Gendo or Ritsuko? /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

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I don't know, but I hear they'll be adding a CGI Asuka and Kaji to episode 1. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif