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09-16-2006, 02:41 AM
I recently purchased the original Tenchi OVA box set and the 3 movies off yahoo auctions. I expected Tenchi in Love to look pretty shocking (letterboxed 95 minute feature+ extras and 2 DD5.1 tracks on a single layer disc AND it was authored in late 1997 /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif) and indeed I was correct. The bitrate of the movie barely ever gets above the 5 mark. Manatsu no Eve fares a little better as it is a 60 minute feature+ extras on a double layer disc due to the DTS track but it is still letterboxed, boo. What shocked me the most though ws that the OVAs look pretty awful too, I am no technophile but I could easily spot huge compression blocking and horrible shadowing of cels as the scene changed (I dont know the tech term for it /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif) The reason I was so supprised by the quality is because the Tenchi OVAs were an early benchmark for DVD quality and I expected more.
So that brings me to the point of my post, are the later pressings of the first movie and OVAs better quality than the originals? I dont particularly want to re-buy the ugly, "rondo robe selection" DVDs of the OVAs but I may consider the movie if it is a significant step above the original. I am still hoping that one day Geneon give Tenchi in Love the DVD treatment it deserves and releases a remastered, animorphic disc. I dont hold much hope of that hapening though considering how many times they have re-released the movie in letterboxed format (the original, the Tenchi in Love 1&2 set, the tenth aniversary box and the new cheap release). Guess I will have to wait for a HD release one day....
On a side note, I am planning on buying the (original) R2 Tenchi TV boxes and the Shin Tenchi discs as well, I am interested to know how they compare to the US discs (a review of one of the TV volumes on AoD said it was better than the Tenchi in Tokyo quality).
09-16-2006, 09:06 AM
The first discs are pretty bad, but the encoding does get better as you progress through the series. I recommend the R1 for video, but the R2 for the DTS audio. It's full rate so it really makes a difference. For the movies, I'm not sure if Tenchi in Love is the same disc in both regions - the R1 is mostly okay because it's a new film transfer and mostly progressive. It still has quite a bit of compression artifacts, but personally I can deal with it simply cause of the high animation quality. It's not really something that would be acceptable today however.
Definitely stay away from the R1 of Manatsu no Eve, as they screwed up some of the multi-angle parts.
All the re-releases in R2 with the exception of the last one were simply repackagaing and no changes to the encoding. They removed the english dubs from the last releases so it's possible that they're better on the video front, but they also removed the DTS tracks from the OVA so even if they are, I'd just stick with the R1 (Ultimate Edition, not the crappy single disc re-releases).
I'm sure Tenchi will be released in HD some time - and look great in it. The OVA and movie are all cel and edited on film so they should be able to take full advantage of the format.
09-17-2006, 12:58 AM
Thanks for the info. I am pretty sure the R1 and R2 of Tenchi in Love are the same disc as both discs have the English and Japanese versions of the menu and the US disc even has Japanese subs (right?). If I ever have the opportunity, I will rent some of the cheap releases of the OVAs and the movie to see if they are improved. As you said though, I am sure a HD Tenchi release wont be too far in the future so I will probably just stick to my current set and wait for the inevitable HD release. I doubt I will re-buy Shin Tenchi Muyo in HD (I haven't seen it but have heard it kinda sux) but I would jump on the OVAs, TMTV and movies in a heartbeat as they are some of my favourite anime ever. When the HD versions come it will actually mark the 4th time I will have bought the original OVAs and movie (VHS, LD, DVD and HD) and 3 times for TMTV.
09-17-2006, 08:36 AM
Heh, you sound like me /images/graemlins/happy.gif. If you really want to see what Shin Tenchi is like I suggest you just rent it. I absolutely hated it from the minute I started watching it, from the crappy music, changed character designs to the story itself. If I was being charitable I'd say that it's half-decent on its own merits, but it's not Tenchi.
10-04-2006, 09:22 AM
Not to derail the topic, but I also have a question. Are the Japanese R2 disc any better video quality wise than the US R1 Discs? I know they released like 4 different version Pioneer 3 times (Singles, Box Sets 1 & 2, and the wooden set, which I am assuming are all the same discs, just different packages) and the newly released Geneon box 1 and 2. I know the Pioneer ones have the english audio track on them, but the Geneon does not. So that means the Geneon discs are atleast reauthored. If anyone knows please tell me which version you are referring to .
Thanks in advance
10-05-2006, 01:37 PM
Yeah, the Rondo Robe versions of Tenchi TV have excellent video quality, not sure about the other series though. The extras except for creditless OPs/EDs have been stripped however. Tenchi TV had some sweet Japanese-only seiyuu extras on the LDs and original R2 DVDs.
10-06-2006, 01:30 AM
Any idea where I can find those, can't seem to get any descent hits in google. Or are those the Geneon (Japan) release ones with the Japanese only audio?
10-06-2006, 09:11 AM
Yeah, they're the re-priced Geneon versions under their Rondo Robe Selection label. The extras have all been stripped, including the English dub. Only the original R2s (and limited R2 boxes) have the dub, and I'd imagine they have even worse compression artifacts since they're all single-layer discs and have massive amounts of seiyuu extras that the single-layer R1s didn't have.
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