R3 Kimagure Orange Road

[Njr Scrawl]

All KOR - TV, OVAs & both movies is listed as Proware R3TW titles at JSMall here. (http://mall.jsdvd.com/advanced_search_result.php?categories_id=&search_i n_description=1&inc_subcat=1&keywords=Orange+Road& x=9&y=10) Japanese LPCM audio, Chinese subtitles.

The movies can also be bought from Yeasasia, those are HK R3 releases.

[Thanatos]

No Jump OVA though.

[Njr Scrawl]

Never seen it released anywhere on any media apart from the Japanese LD & VHS. Its existence is probably not well known which can't help.

[mcarocks2003]

Thats a shame, i really love the KOR pilot.

Hopefully it will get a re-release considering it also had it's own OST soundtrack (http://www.ex.org/2.3/31-kor_cd.html) released on cd too.

[Njr Scrawl]

There may once have been a French DVD of the pilot, but long OOP.

[Bumble]

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Wrath of the Njr said:
There may once have been a French DVD of the pilot, but long OOP.

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First I've heard about his. Any more info? /images/graemlins/happy.gif

The pilot undoubtedly falls under a different rights holder than the rest of the series, otherwise it would have been included in at least one of the KOR sets world-wide.

As for the R3 versions of KOR, I found a page with a few screen captures from different versions on it (shown on a 4+ MB png image):

Mod edit: Link snipped - don't link to sites comparing to bootlegs.

[jnik]

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Bumble said:
As for the R3 versions of KOR, I found a page with a few screen captures from different versions on it

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Pardon me while I cry....

[Njr Scrawl]

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Bumble said:
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Wrath of the Njr said:
There may once have been a French DVD of the pilot, but long OOP.

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First I've heard about his. Any more info? /images/graemlins/happy.gif

The pilot undoubtedly falls under a different rights holder than the rest of the series, otherwise it would have been included in at least one of the KOR sets world-wide.

As for the R3 versions of KOR, I found a page with a few screen captures from different versions on it (shown on a 4+ MB png image):



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Script Club's timings came from the French DVD (SC says). Also the French KOR fan sight madoka.ayukawa mentions the pilot DVD.

As for the R3, jsmall have another order! The Proware version is what we might get (or better!) if a R2J release is done. I'm hoping for seiyuu interviews with the R2Js. (Got Hiromi Tsuru on GSMikami DVD & Gall Force VHS, KOR would be the hat trick!)

[Thanatos]

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jnik said:
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Bumble said:
As for the R3 versions of KOR, I found a page with a few screen captures from different versions on it

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Pardon me while I cry....

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Wow, it's like four entirely different color schemes.

[Njr Scrawl]

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Bumble said:
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Wrath of the Njr said:
There may once have been a French DVD of the pilot, but long OOP.

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First I've heard about his. Any more info? /images/graemlins/happy.gif

The pilot undoubtedly falls under a different rights holder than the rest of the series, otherwise it would have been included in at least one of the KOR sets world-wide.

As for the R3 versions of KOR, I found a page with a few screen captures from different versions on it (shown on a 4+ MB png image):

Mod edit: Link snipped - don't link to sites comparing to bootlegs.

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Could someone edit out the bootleg shots & post elsewhere?

[Bumble]

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Wrath of the Njr said:
Could someone edit out the bootleg shots & post elsewhere?

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Not a bad idea. I certainly I wasn't condoning bootlegs and I don't believe that website was either (although by extension, it was acknowledging their existence).

A helpful picture comparison excluding those shots would be a good thing to have around. It certainly got me to think seriously about those Proware DVDs!

[Skywise]

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Wrath of the Njr said:
Could someone edit out the bootleg shots & post elsewhere?

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Err.. what bootleg shots and posts?

[Bumble]

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Err.. what bootleg shots and posts?

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The link you edited out of my post was to a page with various comparisons of different versions of KOR on DVD and LD. One of those comparisons was from a bootleg set, which is presumably why you edited out the link from my post.

Wrath was suggesting that an edited version of those picture comparisons removing the offending images would be OK and not come into conflict with forum rules. They do helpfully show off some very interesting color scheme differences between the R1 Animego and R3 Proware official DVDs.

[Skywise]

Oh right - if someone wants to do that I'm fine with it. Ultimately I would prefer a proper comparison from someone who actually has the discs so we could get them in full resolution instead of the sized down pics. Quality is much more than color balance.

[Njr Scrawl]

Anyone ordering apart from me?

[Vicserr]

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Err.. what bootleg shots and posts?

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The link you edited out of my post was to a page with various comparisons of different versions of KOR on DVD and LD. One of those comparisons was from a bootleg set, which is presumably why you edited out the link from my post.



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Well, didn't a page just like it(from Macross World I think) was linked when AE was releasing SDF Macross, comparing it with the R2J and a b**tl*g and that didn't cause any mayor hubbub...

[Skywise]

The mods were probably asleep /images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

[Njr Scrawl]

Otherwise it could have been allowed because the bootleg caps showed their rubbish translation for the subtitles, thus being poor enough to be allowed, since they were used to illustrate bad quality.

Mods sleeping? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Vicserr]

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Wrath of the Njr said:
Otherwise it could have been allowed because the bootleg caps showed their rubbish translation for the subtitles, thus being poor enough to be allowed, since they were used to illustrate bad quality.

Mods sleeping? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Well, it's just a comparison, so I don't see the harm, heck it shows the superior quality of the licensed versions, it's not like it's pushing the B**tl*g version(at least that's the case with the Macross page, I don't know the case with the KOR page)

[Thanatos]

The Maison Ikkoku page wasn't blocked either. It's never been a rule to prevent linking to screencaps of pirated anime. Where to buy, yes, but never mere images. If that were the case, pirate anime faq shouldn't be linked to, nor should fan blogs that host images from new TV anime which have not been released on DVD yet. Let's not be ridiculous.

[Njr Scrawl]

Got the lot today. Each volume is in its own slip case. Identical art to the keepcase cover, from the same collection as Animeigo & the French release. No Akemi Takada covers. Same artist/collection as AE used + extra illustrations which include all the characters, making KOR appear a more family-centric show.

Menus.
1 main menu, then a subtitle on/off menu, then an individual episode chapter menu. Each one you choose opening (if there is one offered), part A, Part B, ending, next episode of previous one.

Video.
Although fresher & occasionally sharper than AE's DVD video quality (especially red & yellow), the video IMO is not re-mastered, but just a better transfer than Animeigos. My Animeigo LDs are a better rival to the R3s. Toei's R2J remasters of Touch TV & Miyuki TV are overall superior, Proware may have done some remastering with KOR, but probably on a lower budget, & only on some scenes.

4 episodes on each DVD. Each episode has its own ending, but only every other episode has an opening. That is how the Japanese LDs were.

Audio.
For audio though, these R3s are fine. Proware have used LPCM (they say) & some discs have a label advertising the stereo aspect. The audio sounds richer, more bass & is slightly stereo. There is some directional favour toward character screen positioning & movement, for example when Hikaru's motorcycle skids across the screen in her first appearance. BGM is louder than Animeigo used. The opening & ending music has been made simulated stereo as well. DVD-9s have been used.


If you have the R1s, don't bother, but purists, obsessives & collectors will find this set good value for money.

If a R2J release is done, the test will be how good the more poorly animated & fades scenes are restored to. Prowares's passes Animeigo's, but more work is needed to do polish up this show as it deserves.


(I haven't watched the OVAs yet, but each case & slip cover has Akemi Takeda art. Madoka in ballroom gown & tennis gear are IIRC 2 pictures not used on the R1s. DVD-5S used & 2 eps to a disc.)

[Pyocola]

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Wrath of the Njr said:
Toei's R2J remasters of Touch TV & Miyuki TV are overall superior...

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Miyuki was remastered? (None of those are from Toei by the way.)

[Njr Scrawl]

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Wrath of the Njr said:
Toei's R2J remasters of Touch TV & Miyuki TV are overall superior...

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Miyuki was remastered? (None of those are from Toei by the way.)

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Sorry, I thought they were Toei.

I have the Miyuki TV set. Although video quality varies, generally its high for a show its age on DVD IMO. I'm only watching on a 25" CRT, though its a mid-90s Sony.

Going back to KOR, no mosaicing, a little ghosting(?) external lines 1mm above the figure or object) in places.

[JeffDM]

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mcarocks2003 said:
Thats a shame, i really love the KOR pilot.

Hopefully it will get a re-release considering it also had it's own OST soundtrack (http://www.ex.org/2.3/31-kor_cd.html) released on cd too.

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That was eleven years ago, so any possible help or mindshare the sound track could have been would be long cold.

I happen to have the US release of that CD. I wonder how many of them were made.