Death Note discussion [Archive]

masterpez

10-06-2006, 06:24 PM

Official Website (http://www.ntv.co.jp/deathnote/)

There was a thread for this, but it was paired off with Ghost Hunt. So I figure if anyone wants to discuss GH, they can revive this thread (http://www.ntv.co.jp/deathnote/). As for Death Note, if anyone doesn't know the basic story, here's the blurb which is written on the back of vol. 01 of the manga released by Viz:

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Light Yagami is an ace student with great prospects- and he's bored out of his mind. But all that changes when he finds the Death Note, a notebook dropped by a rogue Shinigami death god. Any human whose name is written in the notebook dies, and now Light has vowed to use the power of the Death Note to rid the world of evil. But when criminals begin dropping dead, the authorities send in the legendary detective L to track down the killer. With L hot on is heels, will Light lose sight of his noble goal...or his life?

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Episode 1 covers almost all of chapter 1 of the manga, only leaving out anything that involved L. The ep was pretty faithful to the manga except for the standard way that scenes tend to be extended or added to make a full episode. Also some events were rearranged, which made certain other events happen in chorological order rather than taking place in a flashback. Overall, I think the adaptation is pretty good. The character designs are nice, animation, music, etc. Hopefully Madhouse can keep the quality going for however many episodes this series will be. And I'll probably end up buying it twice (r2, then r1 /images/graemlins/depresse.gif)

monika

10-06-2006, 11:57 PM

I wasn't particularly interested in this until I saw the cast. Particularly the matchup of legendary Kappei Yamaguchi as L and newcomer favorite Mamoru Miyano as Light Yagami (with bonus Aya Hirano as Misa Amane). Basically, I know what the characters look like and I know what the actors sound like, and the two didn't really mesh in my head, so curiosity is getting the best of me.

Dagger

10-07-2006, 12:02 AM

Mamoru Miyano did an excellent job as Light in the first episode IMO. There were one or two weak spots, but given that his vocal performance was almost singularly responsible for lending the story dramatic heft and will continue to be responsible for that throughout the series, I think he was fantastic. I'm really looking forward to seeing how he handles Light spazzing out in future episodes.

I can't reconcile Kappei Yamaguchi with L at all, but I'll try to keep an open mind about it.

monika

10-07-2006, 12:52 AM

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I'm really looking forward to seeing how he handles Light spazzing out in future episodes.

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He spazzes out well though. I listened to the first episode, and is it a bad thing when an actor sounds strange to me when he's NOT affecting a strong French accent / Koyasu impersonation? But yeah, if there's spazzing out involved, then the casting makes more sense to me and I'm looking forward to it.

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I can't reconcile Kappei Yamaguchi with L at all, but I'll try to keep an open mind about it.

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/images/graemlins/happy.gif I've been watching a lot of South Park in Japanese lately. This is going to be interesting.

BluWacky

10-07-2006, 06:13 AM

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He spazzes out well though. I listened to the first episode, and is it a bad thing when an actor sounds strange to me when he's NOT affecting a strong French accent / Koyasu impersonation? But yeah, if there's spazzing out involved, then the casting makes more sense to me and I'm looking forward to it.

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See, my first contact with Mamoru Miyano was as Kiba in Wolf's Rain, one of the darkest parts imaginable; Light is hardly a stretch from that for me, and I was very pleasantly surprised by his Ouran performance.

Johnny

10-07-2006, 10:31 AM

Well, episode one was fantastic. Felt like ages waiting on this being turned into an anime but I'm happy at the way it has turned out so far.
Loved the music and animation - the sequence near the end with Light writing the names into the Death Note was particularly impressive.

Just a few things to wait on now - episode 2, the introduction of Misa, the R2's and the R1 license /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

animeforever'04

10-07-2006, 10:48 AM

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johnny said:
Well, episode one was fantastic. Felt like ages waiting on this being turned into an anime but I'm happy at the way it has turned out so far.
Loved the music and animation - the sequence near the end with Light writing the names into the Death Note was particularly impressive.

Just a few things to wait on now - episode 2, the introduction of Misa, the R2's and the R1 license /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

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keep dreaming on R1 part

Johnny

10-07-2006, 11:18 AM

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johnny said:
Well, episode one was fantastic. Felt like ages waiting on this being turned into an anime but I'm happy at the way it has turned out so far.
Loved the music and animation - the sequence near the end with Light writing the names into the Death Note was particularly impressive.

Just a few things to wait on now - episode 2, the introduction of Misa, the R2's and the R1 license /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

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keep dreaming on R1 part

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Why? I'd say it's a fairly safe bet this will be picked up sooner or later.

Curse_7781

10-07-2006, 11:28 AM

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Well, episode one was fantastic. Felt like ages waiting on this being turned into an anime but I'm happy at the way it has turned out so far.
Loved the music and animation - the sequence near the end with Light writing the names into the Death Note was particularly impressive.

Just a few things to wait on now - episode 2, the introduction of Misa, the R2's and the R1 license /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

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keep dreaming on R1 part

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Why? I'd say it's a fairly safe bet this will be picked up sooner or later.

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I agree. It's just a matter of who's getting it is the real mystery /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Enhance the Trance,
Curse

Johnny

10-07-2006, 11:30 AM

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johnny said:
Well, episode one was fantastic. Felt like ages waiting on this being turned into an anime but I'm happy at the way it has turned out so far.
Loved the music and animation - the sequence near the end with Light writing the names into the Death Note was particularly impressive.

Just a few things to wait on now - episode 2, the introduction of Misa, the R2's and the R1 license /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

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keep dreaming on R1 part

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Why? I'd say it's a fairly safe bet this will be picked up sooner or later.

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I agree. It's just a matter of who's getting it is the real mystery /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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*cough*Geneon*cough*

Well, that's what I wish anyway.

angelx03

10-07-2006, 11:41 AM

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johnny said:
Well, episode one was fantastic. Felt like ages waiting on this being turned into an anime but I'm happy at the way it has turned out so far.
Loved the music and animation - the sequence near the end with Light writing the names into the Death Note was particularly impressive.

Just a few things to wait on now - episode 2, the introduction of Misa, the R2's and the R1 license /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

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keep dreaming on R1 part

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Why? I'd say it's a fairly safe bet this will be picked up sooner or later.

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I agree. It's just a matter of who's getting it is the real mystery /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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*cough*Geneon*cough*

Well, that's what I wish anyway.

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Considering it's a Shounen Jump property, it's more likely Viz..... /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

cheezisgoooood

10-07-2006, 02:13 PM

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johnny said:
Well, episode one was fantastic. Felt like ages waiting on this being turned into an anime but I'm happy at the way it has turned out so far.
Loved the music and animation - the sequence near the end with Light writing the names into the Death Note was particularly impressive.

Just a few things to wait on now - episode 2, the introduction of Misa, the R2's and the R1 license /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

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keep dreaming on R1 part

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Why? I'd say it's a fairly safe bet this will be picked up sooner or later.

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I agree. It's just a matter of who's getting it is the real mystery /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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*cough*Geneon*cough*

Well, that's what I wish anyway.

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Considering it's a Shounen Jump property, it's more likely Viz..... /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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But it's also a Madhouse anime, so there still could be a chance for a Geneon release.

Helschadenfreude

10-07-2006, 04:32 PM

Wow, I'm really happy with L and Ryuk voice. Exactly to how I imagine them. The swish of the pen when he was writing was quite amusing. This sort of renews my love in Death Note again. Sorta.

Andrew Cunningham

10-07-2006, 05:30 PM

The musical montage was AWESOME.

Pyocola

10-07-2006, 06:08 PM

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The musical montage was AWESOME.

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Indeed it was. Overall I was impressed with it; good music and the art and animation by Madhouse was consistently great. Anyone know if they're intending to animate the whole manga?

And as mentioned, Geneon does have a pretty good track record with Madhouse shows, so let's hope for that. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

something

10-07-2006, 11:02 PM

Haven't read the manga, so everything beyond the basic premise is new to me.

But I loved episode one. Everyone loves a morally ambiguous (and utterly insane) vigilante protagonist... or at least I do. No qualms about killing or desire to "save" the evil people here. Just kill, kill, killlllll~ Wahoo!

Seeing as how the two primary images I have in my head of "Shinigami" are from Bleach and Full Moon, the shinigami of death note are quite a change, but still pretty damn cool. I love how Ryuk never blinks XD

As for the art... it's very well animated, although the style isn't my type. Maybe it's true to the manga, I don't know, but it's not immediately appealing to my eyes. That said, it's appropriate to the subject matter and mood, and of high artistic quality, so it won't be bugging me. The music is average so far, and I'm not really into either the OP or ED, but again that's not a huge deal.

In any event, this show looks like a winner, so far at least.

something

10-07-2006, 11:05 PM

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Let's see, the manga is licensed, it's a SJ property, it's high profile... I don't think it is going to take much "dreaming" to get this licensed. I say it's a sure thing.

cheezisgoooood

10-07-2006, 11:07 PM

It's not a matter of if Death Note will get licensed, it's by who and when, really. I predict Viz Media will license it sometime late next year.

Sandrylina

10-07-2006, 11:51 PM

Argh...another anime that may have me buying (or in this case, at least the first few vols of) the manga. Really liked the 1st episode, Light looks and sounds great, and so does Ryuk. Music is all awesome, so I'll really be looking forward to the introduction of the next major characters. /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

-Sandrylina-

kamillebidan

10-08-2006, 12:01 AM

Seriously. The manga is consistently one of Viz's top sellers and has a huge fanbase over here already. Is he talking about the same series?

If Viz doesn't already have it, then I can imagine that there is a definite fight over the R1 license for this title. Hopefully Geneon gets it...

As for episode one, I was thoroughly impressed. I actually went through it again today and took tons of screencaps of the whole thing (about 150 in total). Not sure what I'll do with them, except maybe use them for future avatar material...

Can't wait for volume 8.

monika

10-08-2006, 12:16 AM

The cast just got lolfuckinawesomer. Kobayashi Kiyoshi is playing Watari, who I gather from character descriptions is, um, good with guns?

Thanatos

10-08-2006, 04:21 AM

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The musical montage was AWESOME.

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Word. The show has style in spades. I've never read the manga but look forward to new episodes!

By the way, what's up with the main character's name being "Light"? He IS Japanese, isn't he?

monika

10-08-2006, 05:22 AM

From what I hear, his given name is spelled "月", that is "Moon", read "Light", and pronounced indistinguishably from "Right", and his code name is "Killer", or "Kira" which means "Shiny". But I take terrible terrible puns to be standard for Japanese character names.

夜神, Yagumi, means {night, evening} {gods, mind, soul} according to WWWJDIC.

Helschadenfreude

10-08-2006, 06:20 PM

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From what I hear, his given name is spelled "月", that is "Moon", read "Light", and pronounced indistinguishably from "Right", and his code name is "Killer", or "Kira" which means "Shiny". But I take terrible terrible puns to be standard for Japanese character names.

夜神, Yagumi, means {night, evening} {gods, mind, soul} according to WWWJDIC.

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Also the author apparently did an english rendition of all the names, and thus you have Light, and not Raito.

Helschadenfreude

10-08-2006, 06:20 PM

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The cast just got lolfuckinawesomer. Kobayashi Kiyoshi is playing Watari, who I gather from character descriptions is, um, good with guns?

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But isn't... Watari... old?

monika

10-08-2006, 08:04 PM

I don't know, but Kobayashi Kiyoshi's been playing characters who are good with guns since the '60s (and a specific one since '71). And the actor himself is 73 years old.

10-09-2006, 09:53 PM

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keep dreaming on R1 part

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That's the funniest thing I've read on a message board all week. As others have said, there's no way this won't get licensed. It should be considered a given at this point.

StudioZEL

10-16-2006, 06:03 PM

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I can't reconcile Kappei Yamaguchi with L at all, but I'll try to keep an open mind about it.

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I can actually see it totally, considering that L is supposed to be a genius detective.

Kappei Yamaguchi also plays Kudo Shinichi in Detective Conan/Case Closed, who is also a genius detective.

Dagger

10-16-2006, 06:08 PM

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I can't reconcile Kappei Yamaguchi with L at all, but I'll try to keep an open mind about it.

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I can actually see it totally, considering that L is supposed to be a genius detective.

Kappei Yamaguchi also plays Kudo Shinichi in Detective Conan/Case Closed, who is also a genius detective.

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For the record, I was absolutely blown away by his (few) lines in episode 2. They pretty much served to erase any reservations I'd had about his performance. I'm really looking forward to hearing more. Kind of different from his Kudo voice, I think, although it's been a while since I watched any Conan /images/graemlins/happy.gif

something

10-16-2006, 08:50 PM

Holy shit. Episode one was great, but episode two is a whole level above.

I cannot adequately describe how awesome it is to have a show with no hero. No morally obvious "right" and "wrong". No light (well...) and dark, no good and evil. And a protagonist who is utterly insane (and yet utterly in control at the same time...) and has murdered more than 100 people BY EPISODE TWO. Fucking awesome. Disturbing, but awesome XD

If there IS a hero, it can be argued that it isn't even the protagonist, but rather 'L'. Light has already murdered someone he thought was an innocent, when he killed the "stunt double" 'L'. He didn't know that was really a criminal, and he killed him anyway. His sense of justice has become so twisted that it's no longer about killing criminals, but rather killing those who oppose him. He has internalized the idea that he is a higher being, and that his justice is superior. He even entertained the idea of killing his family for the "greater good" of his ultmate plan, when asked what would happen if his family found the Death Note. (On a side note, his sister is kinda cute.)

The televised showdown between Light and L only hinted at things to come, but it was baaaaaad ass~ 'L' promises to be a hell of a character, and Ryuk is this strange wildcard, in that he's just along for the ride to have a bit of fun. I can't wait to see what sort of deciding role he plays in the end (well, if any).

Now I see why the manga was such a hit around here. A friend of mine was wondering how a show where the protagonist can kill anyone by writing their name in a notebook can have any dramatic tension... Well, I'm going to have to make sure he finds out ASAP, because this is going to be an amazing and tense battle of wits between Light and L.

Helschadenfreude

10-16-2006, 11:17 PM

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I can't reconcile Kappei Yamaguchi with L at all, but I'll try to keep an open mind about it.

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I can actually see it totally, considering that L is supposed to be a genius detective.

Kappei Yamaguchi also plays Kudo Shinichi in Detective Conan/Case Closed, who is also a genius detective.

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For the record, I was absolutely blown away by his (few) lines in episode 2. They pretty much served to erase any reservations I'd had about his performance. I'm really looking forward to hearing more. Kind of different from his Kudo voice, I think, although it's been a while since I watched any Conan /images/graemlins/happy.gif

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Same here.. I was trying to figure out how to figure Monta(since that's the main one that popped up) and the few lines made me go BAM! wow...

beatmania

10-17-2006, 12:48 PM

What makes Light think that Death Note can be burned??? It is obviously no ordinary notebook.

I have no doubt that L can find out who Kira is, the problem is, there's not a damn thing he can do about it legally. The only thing he can do is take matters into his own hands and murder that little bastard.

Johnny

10-17-2006, 01:01 PM

Have you read the manga, disarm? If not you're in for one hell of a ride and I promise you that! /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

FWIW, L is awesome. Such a cold, evil bastard...what's not to like? /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

Dagger

10-17-2006, 01:09 PM

So I was looking at the 2ch thread for episode 3, and it looks like the art is starting to go downhill pretty quickly. Madhouse has a lot of big shows on their plate this season; I really hope this isn't a continuing trend. I know DN's main appeal is in its writing, but I want to see more of the awesome and atmospheric animation from episode 1. /images/graemlins/sad.gif

evilarrex

10-17-2006, 03:18 PM

Dagger

10-17-2006, 04:19 PM

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So I was looking at the 2ch thread for episode 3, and it looks like the art is starting to go downhill pretty quickly. Madhouse has a lot of big shows on their plate this season; I really hope this isn't a continuing trend. I know DN's main appeal is in its writing, but I want to see more of the awesome and atmospheric animation from episode 1. /images/graemlins/sad.gif

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Did the episode director change at all?

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I'm not sure about the episode director, but I believe that episode 2 and episode 3 were outsourced--hopefully someone who knows more about the situation than me can set the record straight.

The good news is that I just watched episode 3, and I'd say that overall it's on the same level as episode 2--not totally impressive, but not so much worse that the visuals are distracting. A couple of shots are really off-model, but they weren't as plentiful as I had feared. I also think I tend to notice and be bothered by that sort of thing more than most people.

musouka

10-17-2006, 04:22 PM

And that's why it's always good to read 2ch before watching the ep. They make such mountains out of molehills you'll be happy it isn't animated stick figures voiced by two year olds. /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

kamillebidan

10-17-2006, 05:37 PM

Dammit, this has always been something that I've noticed in Madhouse productions. But I've never seen it start as early as episode 3...

Dagger

10-17-2006, 05:40 PM

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Dammit, this has always been something that I've noticed in Madhouse productions. But I've never seen it start as early as episode 3...

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The thing is, they have a lot of productions on their slate right now (including other heavyweights like Nana and action shows like Black Lagoon). In any other season, I think they'd be able to maintain a level of consistency like that which they pulled off for Monster, but I guess right now they're being pulled in too many different directions. /images/graemlins/sad.gif

something

10-17-2006, 06:49 PM

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Have you read the manga, disarm? If not you're in for one hell of a ride and I promise you that! /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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Nope, I don't read too much manga, I just knew it was popular. I think it was the #1 most wanted in the 'unlicensed manga' thread before it got nabbed.

something

10-17-2006, 06:54 PM

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I have no doubt that L can find out who Kira is, the problem is, there's not a damn thing he can do about it legally.

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Why do you say so? He's murdered over a hundred people. Maybe the world is better off for it, but he still did it. Are you saying that they couldn't prove the supernatural power of the book in court? Perhaps so, but Light would sooooooo admit to the crime, happily at that, if cornered.

beatmania

10-17-2006, 07:17 PM

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I have no doubt that L can find out who Kira is, the problem is, there's not a damn thing he can do about it legally.

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Why do you say so? He's murdered over a hundred people. Maybe the world is better off for it, but he still did it. Are you saying that they couldn't prove the supernatural power of the book in court? Perhaps so, but Light would sooooooo admit to the crime, happily at that, if cornered.

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Yes, no court would find someone guilty because they have a notebook with all the dead people's names on it. I don't even think a live 'experiment' would suffice to convince judges/jury.

10-18-2006, 12:23 PM

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I have no doubt that L can find out who Kira is, the problem is, there's not a damn thing he can do about it legally.

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Why do you say so? He's murdered over a hundred people. Maybe the world is better off for it, but he still did it. Are you saying that they couldn't prove the supernatural power of the book in court? Perhaps so, but Light would sooooooo admit to the crime, happily at that, if cornered.

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Yes, no court would find someone guilty because they have a notebook with all the dead people's names on it. I don't even think a live 'experiment' would suffice to convince judges/jury.

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Exactly. It's part of what makes the show so interesting since it addresses questions of morality and the human dilemma in ways that normally don't get touched. The current justice system really has no way of holding him accountable with a total lack of physical evidence and I'm sure he knows this and is part of why he feels so empowered. Sure they have motive, but how easy is it to convict purely on motive and nothing else? The eventual showdown between L and Kira will be fascinating for sure.

This show didn't look like my kind of thing at first, but episode two had me hooked for good. I'm curious how it's going to develop over it's 39 episode run considering how fast the pacing has been already.

kamillebidan

10-18-2006, 05:55 PM

When was a definitive series length announced?

something

10-18-2006, 06:01 PM

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When was a definitive series length announced?

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Dunno, never looked into it before his post.

ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6592) lists 37, and this site (http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/945/time), which has been reliable in the past, also has 37 scheduled.

Sounds pretty set. I had no idea how long this would run, so I'm pretty happy to hear this news.

kamillebidan

10-18-2006, 06:08 PM

I just find it strange that they would have such a random number decided upon so far ahead of time.

something

10-18-2006, 06:10 PM

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I just find it strange that they would have such a random number decided upon so far ahead of time.

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::shrugs:: The number may be sort of abnormal, but they really SHOULD know ahead of time what with the need to budget and plan the writing and all. But of course with numbers like this, even if official, they're always subject to change.

sbarrett321

10-18-2006, 10:34 PM

The pacing hasn't really been that fast. Episode 1 covered most of chapter 1 (they moved the start of the police summit, which closes chapter 1, to episode 2). Episode 2 covers chapter 2 of the manga, only shifting a bit of the chronology of two scenes (helping Saya with homework, and rigging the desk drawer) from chapter 3 into episode 2.

Episode 3 looks to cover at least through chapter 5. For reference, there's 108 chapters total, 12 volumes.

I was actually a little worried about the pace at first. It seemed they would only get up to the first half of the manga. They still might only be aiming to get slightly past the midway point of the manga, which will make for an interesting conclusion (though I think they can come up with a suitable one, so nothing to fear there)

The greatest thing about this story/adaptation for me is that there really is no slowing down. It's practically a breakneck speed battle of wits that goes back and forth with little stopping. There's more than enough material in the first half of the manga to fill out 37 episodes.

gsilver0

10-18-2006, 11:22 PM

I don't think I've been this excited about an anime series in a long time.

10-18-2006, 11:44 PM

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When was a definitive series length announced?

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Dunno, never looked into it before his post.

ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6592) lists 37, and this site (http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/945/time), which has been reliable in the past, also has 37 scheduled.

Sounds pretty set. I had no idea how long this would run, so I'm pretty happy to hear this news.

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Yeah, that's what I read too. I wasn't sure if it was 37 while I was typing but I knew it was 3 seasons so I just typed 39 since it didn't really matter. I too am curious how they decided upon such an odd number so far in advance.

kaiyouske

10-20-2006, 06:58 AM

Yeah tell me about....an anime that actually lived up to the hype. I seriously hope the ending doesn't blow monkey nuts.

10-22-2006, 12:46 AM

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So I was looking at the 2ch thread for episode 3, and it looks like the art is starting to go downhill pretty quickly. Madhouse has a lot of big shows on their plate this season; I really hope this isn't a continuing trend. I know DN's main appeal is in its writing, but I want to see more of the awesome and atmospheric animation from episode 1. /images/graemlins/sad.gif

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I guess I didn't notice really. A bit less of the highly fluid motion shots and there weren't as many grandiose camera sweeps, but it still looked good to me. On the subject of story so far we have 3 episode that have all carried a huge plot hook and edge of your seat excitement. If the show can maintain this level of energy for even a few more episodes before settling into something more normal it will have earned my eternal respect.

Johnny

10-22-2006, 04:42 AM

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When was a definitive series length announced?

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Dunno, never looked into it before his post.

ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6592) lists 37, and this site (http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/945/time), which has been reliable in the past, also has 37 scheduled.

Sounds pretty set. I had no idea how long this would run, so I'm pretty happy to hear this news.

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Yeah, that's what I read too. I wasn't sure if it was 37 while I was typing but I knew it was 3 seasons so I just typed 39 since it didn't really matter. I too am curious how they decided upon such an odd number so far in advance.

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Yeah, I would have said this would be at least 52 episodes before it started airing, but they are moving along at a fairly rapid pace.
Which means...Misa will be appearing soon(ish)! /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif /images/graemlins/noseblef.gif

BluWacky

10-22-2006, 05:10 AM

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Dagger said:
So I was looking at the 2ch thread for episode 3, and it looks like the art is starting to go downhill pretty quickly. Madhouse has a lot of big shows on their plate this season; I really hope this isn't a continuing trend. I know DN's main appeal is in its writing, but I want to see more of the awesome and atmospheric animation from episode 1. /images/graemlins/sad.gif

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It's a terminal trend for Madhouse shows; around episode 3 or 4 the first episode they start farming more of the animation out to Korean firms like Dr. Movie (witness: Tenjou Tenge, Kemonozume, Yume Tsukai etc.) and the art goes down. It goes back up again if you're lucky (like Kemonozume did) but TenTen was a prime example of nothing really recovering (episode 6, anyone?).

I shouldn't be too worried; they've probably got pots of cash for Death Note, and out of their currently running stuff Kemonozume is probably a law unto itself, Black Lagoon is short and probably already has everything in place to finish it off, Kiba just chugs along without any worries and Nana, Otogijushi Akazukin and Saiunkoku Monogatari don't need high budgets.

beatmania

10-25-2006, 04:34 PM

Wow I was sure Light would make the trade since in last ep, immediately at the ED I saw that he had red eyes.
So now he's discovered that he can control people within their capabilities ... as long as they die in the end. L's probably noticed it too. Of course, the fact that a guy died hijacking his bus would probably bring L to examine him thoroughly.

something

10-28-2006, 06:54 PM

Woo, talk about intense. I swore Light was going to accept Ryuk's offer for the eyes (the OP and ED sure reinforced that perception), but he didn't, at least not for now.

The whole "experiment" with the date and the bus was executed so well. It's also good to see that the Death Note has more limitations: you can't just make the person do ANYTHING before dying. And of course, we get another bombshell... Ryuk had two Death Notes. Will L get a hold of the other one?

Light is getting increasingly twisted. He talks about justice and killing criminals, but now he's planning to kill the investigators too. He's simply unable to see any justice other than his own, and his concept of criminality and evil has been utterly twisted. Even after the FBI guy proves (as Light knew all along) that he has no love for the criminal and indeed was willing to protect everyone on the bus, with his life if need be... Light still plans to kill him. Where's the justice in that?

I wouldn't be surprised at all if later in the story, he winds up killing his own father. I can just see the investigation getting too close to catching him, and so in a fit of desparation he kills off his own father, chief of the investigation, and puts on a show of intense mourning at the funeral just to avoid becoming a suspect.

Never mind the fact that he had no qualms whatsoever putting that innocent girl and everyone on the bus (and the driver of the car) through such intense psychological trauma... the very people he claims to want to protect are just pieces of experimental meat to him.

Light is a great character, and it's because of his twisted nature that the show is so interesting, but at this point the show absolutely has to end with him "losing". Getting caught, killed, losing the Death Note, whatever it is. Well, that or becoming a real Death God... that would just be awesome /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif Still, he's too twisted for me to really "root" for him all the way to and including a "happy ending" for him. He's soul his soul, and will pay for it in the end (and yes, I know humans that use the Note can't go to heaven or hell, but I think he'll be stopped in his tracks long before then. If the characters in Jigoku Shoujo are condemned to hell just for taking out their antagonists in a fit of desparation, there's NO way Light deserves to get off clean =P

Note: if you've read the manga, I don't want to know if I'm right or wrong. Keep it to yourself, and just let me speculate freely, damnit! =P

untoldsorrow

10-28-2006, 08:11 PM

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disarm said:
Woo, talk about intense. I swore Light was going to accept Ryuk's offer for the eyes (the OP and ED sure reinforced that perception), but he didn't, at least not for now.

The whole "experiment" with the date and the bus was executed so well. It's also good to see that the Death Note has more limitations: you can't just make the person do ANYTHING before dying. And of course, we get another bombshell... Ryuk had two Death Notes. Will L get a hold of the other one?

Light is getting increasingly twisted. He talks about justice and killing criminals, but now he's planning to kill the investigators too. He's simply unable to see any justice other than his own, and his concept of criminality and evil has been utterly twisted. Even after the FBI guy proves (as Light knew all along) that he has no love for the criminal and indeed was willing to protect everyone on the bus, with his life if need be... Light still plans to kill him. Where's the justice in that?

I wouldn't be surprised at all if later in the story, he winds up killing his own father. I can just see the investigation getting too close to catching him, and so in a fit of desparation he kills off his own father, chief of the investigation, and puts on a show of intense mourning at the funeral just to avoid becoming a suspect.

Never mind the fact that he had no qualms whatsoever putting that innocent girl and everyone on the bus (and the driver of the car) through such intense psychological trauma... the very people he claims to want to protect are just pieces of experimental meat to him.

Light is a great character, and it's because of his twisted nature that the show is so interesting, but at this point the show absolutely has to end with him "losing". Getting caught, killed, losing the Death Note, whatever it is. Well, that or becoming a real Death God... that would just be awesome /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif Still, he's too twisted for me to really "root" for him all the way to and including a "happy ending" for him. He's soul his soul, and will pay for it in the end (and yes, I know humans that use the Note can't go to heaven or hell, but I think he'll be stopped in his tracks long before then. If the characters in Jigoku Shoujo are condemned to hell just for taking out their antagonists in a fit of desparation, there's NO way Light deserves to get off clean =P

Note: if you've read the manga, I don't want to know if I'm right or wrong. Keep it to yourself, and just let me speculate freely, damnit! =P

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I love Death Note because its soo well writen, and you will see how well writting it is once things start moving, this is only the beginning.

Sandrylina

10-29-2006, 01:47 PM

While I remember most of this from what I read of the manga, the anime for Death Note is still awesome. The parts between Light and Ryuk in this episode were great, as was Light testing out his abilities with the Death Note. Can't wait until there is more L in the episodes!

-Sandrylina-

10-30-2006, 12:06 AM

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untoldsorrow said:
I love Death Note because its soo well writen, and you will see how well writting it is once things start moving, this is only the beginning.

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Yeah, it does give the feeling of just getting started, even for those who haven't read the manga like myself. I find that amazing because what we've seen so far has been utterly top shelf. Even good shows level off some for a while aftering making a good starting episode but Death Note has hit us with 4 amazing eps right from the beginning and shows no signs of slowing down. I'm looking forward to this getting the deluxo treatment with it gets licensed.

beatmania

11-01-2006, 09:25 PM

Haha, Light just made someone else real pissed off. Nothing scarier than a vengeful woman set upon you.

something

11-03-2006, 11:06 PM

This has to be one of the most intelligent shows I've ever seen.

Light was screwed up from the beginning, but with this episode he absolutely lost all potential claim to having the moral high ground. As they say in the episode a few times, he no longer only kills criminals, but anyone who opposes him. He has no qualms whatsoever with mass murder of innocents. He has no inhibitions when it comes to threatening women and children.

In short, he has become every bit a monster as those he destroys. He is a serial killer, and he is pure evil, through and through.

And therefore, I am wholeheartedly cheering for L. It's pretty awesome how the show throws you a curveball so relatively early in, where the protagonist is the villain. It's brilliant, really.

Now Ray Penbar's fiance is on the case, the police force has been whittled down to the inner core, and L is about to show his face. Death Note just raises the tension higher, and higher, and higher... I can't imagine what it's going to be like by the time the show is ready to end /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

SnowfairyX

11-04-2006, 01:31 AM

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disarm said:
This has to be one of the most intelligent shows I've ever seen.

Light was screwed up from the beginning, but with this episode he absolutely lost all potential claim to having the moral high ground. As they say in the episode a few times, he no longer only kills criminals, but anyone who opposes him. He has no qualms whatsoever with mass murder of innocents. He has no inhibitions when it comes to threatening women and children.

In short, he has become every bit a monster as those he destroys. He is a serial killer, and he is pure evil, through and through.

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Having read the first 7 domestic volumes of the manga, my impression of Light in the anime so far is that they seemed to make him a bit more evil and I know I'm not the only one with this opinion. Based on the manga though, I highly respect him and think he's awesome but somehow... a little less so in the anime but I guess I'll have to wait and see if my opinion changes later on. On balance I don't really think that Light is evil myself but the anime seems to give a stronger impression that it truly is what he is.

Dagger

11-04-2006, 07:18 AM

I agree that the anime makes it harder to deny Light's evilness, but I don't think this is due to the writers or director "making" him so. Since the anime has been faithful to the manga, down to using many of the same camera angles, and since music & atmospheric effects alone are probably not enough to drastically change one's opinion of a character, I would argue that Light's actions have a lot more impact in the anime simply by virtue of being animated.

One of the manga's salient qualities is that, exciting as it can be, it's really pretty dry and flat. The author consistently avoided focusing on human drama in order to present a faster-moving story. However, because it's an anime, the anime version almost has no choice but to bring out a more of the human drama element (not by actually altering anything, but since the characters have voices now and all that). The anime is not perfectly done, but it really brings the story to life, and IMO that's why some events have a lot more emotional impact. It took me longer to hate Light in the manga than in the anime. What he did to Ray Penbar isn't presented differently at all, but the anime version had much more of an emotional effect on me, in that it really left me outraged.

something

11-04-2006, 12:03 PM

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Dagger said:
What he did to Ray Penbar isn't presented differently at all, but the anime version had much more of an emotional effect on me, in that it really left me outraged.

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Indeed. That was just... blargh. You think he'd have SOME tiny feeling of remorse, but he absolutely revels in it. I'm sure he'll snap or something later on, but for now, he's just a bastard. And with that, he lost any tiny little chance that I could see this show ending with him being redeemed in my eyes.

Johnny

11-04-2006, 01:46 PM

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Dagger said:

One of the manga's salient qualities is that, exciting as it can be, it's really pretty dry and flat. The author consistently avoided focusing on human drama in order to present a faster-moving story. However, because it's an anime, the anime version almost has no choice but to bring out a more of the human drama element (not by actually altering anything, but since the characters have voices now and all that).

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I agree totally. Although I've read the manga and know what is about to happen, the animation and voices give it so much more depth.
Another thing is the music. Not only do I think it is great but it is used so well to convey mood. The tone of the manga has been summed up more or less perfectly so far.

cheezisgoooood

11-04-2006, 01:57 PM

I really wish people would quit bitching about how they "changed Light's character" to make him "more evil". He's just as evil in both the anime and manga, says the exact same things, does the exact same things, the only difference is this is an anime and that was a manga, this one has scary music to go with his ludicrous speeches, the manga didn't.

I think the anime adaption is perfectly faithful to the manga in pretty much every way.

sbarrett321

11-04-2006, 02:56 PM

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cheezisgoooood said:
I really wish people would quit bitching about how they "changed Light's character" to make him "more evil". He's just as evil in both the anime and manga, says the exact same things, does the exact same things, the only difference is this is an anime and that was a manga, this one has scary music to go with his ludicrous speeches, the manga didn't.

I think the anime adaption is perfectly faithful to the manga in pretty much every way.

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Personally I love the anime adaptation, but there are a few subtle changes that do influence the view of Light.

For one during the family meeting scene, the Dad's line about how "Ideas from Light have helped solve cases in the past" was removed; I'm waiting to see if the anime removes the part about Light's childhood plans to join the police force when he graduated are removed too .

I don't think it's that determential to the series, but not giving time to the background of Light and the influence of being the son of the police chief inspector can make some of the story seem coicidental (Oh, his dad just happens to be such a high ranking official). While it is convienant to the story, it's not something that was just tacked on. In fact, being the son of a police officer has shaped Light into the person he is. The transition of misguided well intentions to psycho serial killer happens quickly regardless, but there's more room to believe the scenes when Light is proclaiming that he'll catch Kira if something happens to his dad when we know there's a preexisiting connection between him and his dad's work, and that before the Death Note, that is something that he would realistically say and act on. Instead, it comes across more as the bold faced lie it is, instead of having any context to make it remotely believable.

It's extremely minor in my opinion, and absolutely not something that would affect my enjoyment of the anime series. But I would say there are differences.

cheezisgoooood

11-04-2006, 03:01 PM

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cheezisgoooood said:
I really wish people would quit bitching about how they "changed Light's character" to make him "more evil". He's just as evil in both the anime and manga, says the exact same things, does the exact same things, the only difference is this is an anime and that was a manga, this one has scary music to go with his ludicrous speeches, the manga didn't.

I think the anime adaption is perfectly faithful to the manga in pretty much every way.

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Personally I love the anime adaptation, but there are a few subtle changes that do influence the view of Light.

For one during the family meeting scene, the Dad's line about how "Ideas from Light have helped solve cases in the past" was removed; I'm waiting to see if the anime removes the part about Light's childhood plans to join the police force when he graduated are removed too .

I don't think it's that determential to the series, but not giving time to the background of Light and the influence of being the son of the police chief inspector can make some of the story seem coicidental (Oh, his dad just happens to be such a high ranking official). While it is convienant to the story, it's not something that was just tacked on. In fact, being the son of a police officer has shaped Light into the person he is. The transition of misguided well intentions to psycho serial killer happens quickly regardless, but there's more room to believe the scenes when Light is proclaiming that he'll catch Kira if something happens to his dad when we know there's a preexisiting connection between him and his dad's work, and that before the Death Note, that is something that he would realistically say and act on. Instead, it comes across more as the bold faced lie it is, instead of having any context to make it remotely believable.

It's extremely minor in my opinion, and absolutely not something that would affect my enjoyment of the anime series. But I would say there are differences.

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It's only been five episodes, I'm sure they'll probably mention it, seeing as how that's part of the reason why he was being considered for inclusion in solving the Kira case in the first place.

We'll have to wait and see though.

golthin

11-04-2006, 07:23 PM

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Dagger said:
I agree that the anime makes it harder to deny Light's evilness, but I don't think this is due to the writers or director "making" him so. Since the anime has been faithful to the manga, down to using many of the same camera angles, and since music & atmospheric effects alone are probably not enough to drastically change one's opinion of a character, I would argue that Light's actions have a lot more impact in the anime simply by virtue of being animated.

One of the manga's salient qualities is that, exciting as it can be, it's really pretty dry and flat. The author consistently avoided focusing on human drama in order to present a faster-moving story. However, because it's an anime, the anime version almost has no choice but to bring out a more of the human drama element (not by actually altering anything, but since the characters have voices now and all that). The anime is not perfectly done, but it really brings the story to life, and IMO that's why some events have a lot more emotional impact. It took me longer to hate Light in the manga than in the anime. What he did to Ray Penbar isn't presented differently at all, but the anime version had much more of an emotional effect on me, in that it really left me outraged.

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I have always been amazed with the way that criminals think. If I was light, once I found about L and the FBI I will have Ceased all my killings for a while. Then I will start again executing criminals. I understand that the problem is that Light think himself superior and that he is smart enough not to be caught and that is his failing. I will also have not fallen for the first trap that L got for light, that show his arrogance.

kamillebidan

11-04-2006, 07:44 PM

Dagger

11-04-2006, 07:49 PM

He says that he's trying to make the world better, but IMO achieving god-like status is just as important to him, if not more so, than that ideal. I'd cite examples related to his family from the manga, but I don't remember exactly where those parts come in, and I don't want to spoil you.

cheezisgoooood

11-04-2006, 08:14 PM

This all reminds me I need to go ahead and pick up Death Note 8 from Barnes and Noble as soon as I find time.

StudioZEL

11-04-2006, 10:36 PM

A little diddy I drew up tonight for fun. ^^

Ryuk really wants an apple... (http://www.studio-zel.com/images/deathnotecomic.jpg)

Anime_Fire

11-05-2006, 12:32 PM

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StudioZEL said:
A little diddy I drew up tonight for fun. ^^

Ryuk really wants an apple... (http://www.studio-zel.com/images/deathnotecomic.jpg)

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Haha, that was hilarious!

I for one am really really liking the anime music. I think they're overplaying that strong choral piece (it's losing its impact by appearing in nearly every episode) but it's still really strong. Any word on a soundtrack?

treatment

11-05-2006, 06:47 PM

per http://animenewsservice.com/ :

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11-5-06 (5:34PM EDT)---- Death Note Anime Licensed For America

ANS has learned the Death Note TV animation has been officially licensed for release in the North American market in 2007. We'll leave the actual licensee to properly announce themselves at their preferred time and in their preferred manner. A few things have to come together before that can happen though. Look for some official word in the form of simultaneous / coordinated press releases anywhere from weeks at earliest to months at latest.

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My guess is ADV has it.

Dagger

11-05-2006, 07:10 PM

ADV? Doesn't this seem like an obvious choice for Viz?

kamillebidan

11-05-2006, 07:55 PM

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per http://animenewsservice.com/ :

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11-5-06 (5:34PM EDT)---- Death Note Anime Licensed For America

ANS has learned the Death Note TV animation has been officially licensed for release in the North American market in 2007. We'll leave the actual licensee to properly announce themselves at their preferred time and in their preferred manner. A few things have to come together before that can happen though. Look for some official word in the form of simultaneous / coordinated press releases anywhere from weeks at earliest to months at latest.

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My guess is ADV has it.

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Why ADV?

It's obviously either Viz or Geneon.

Thanatos

11-05-2006, 07:57 PM

Not seeing the "obviously Geneon" part.

kamillebidan

11-05-2006, 07:59 PM

They have a strong relationship with Madhouse and VAP.

TnAdct1

11-05-2006, 08:54 PM

Darn. One show that I've been following this season has already been licensed (although there's always the manga). /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif

Mr. Nail Bat

11-05-2006, 09:01 PM

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11-5-06 (5:34PM EDT)---- Death Note Anime Licensed For America

ANS has learned the Death Note TV animation has been officially licensed for release in the North American market in 2007. We'll leave the actual licensee to properly announce themselves at their preferred time and in their preferred manner. A few things have to come together before that can happen though. Look for some official word in the form of simultaneous / coordinated press releases anywhere from weeks at earliest to months at latest.

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Once again I am reminded of how much I dislike ANS.

railohio

11-05-2006, 09:35 PM

That's hardly journalism as much as it is rumour-mongering! If I wrote "news" stories like that I'd have to look damn hard for jobs!

something

11-05-2006, 10:54 PM

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per http://animenewsservice.com/ :
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...Well, that's that I guess. Suppose I'll see episode six in a year or three. More likely the latter since I don't watch DVDs until I have the whole show... This is where I start to remind myself why I shouldn't watch long shows. If they get licensed befor completion, it's a goddamned bitch. At 37 eps it's not nearly as bad as Bleach or something but... blargh.

And ADV? I assume Viz. Which might mean it takes even longer...

Oh well, better this happens now I guess, before I get TOO irrevocably hooked. That's one show out of the weekly rotation... I'll be back to comment in about 2009 =P

kamillebidan

11-06-2006, 12:19 AM

May I suggest reading the manga?

Arcturus

11-06-2006, 01:58 AM

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disarm said:
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treatment said:
per http://animenewsservice.com/ :
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11-5-06 (5:34PM EDT)---- Death Note Anime Licensed For America

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...Well, that's that I guess. Suppose I'll see episode six in a year or three. More likely the latter since I don't watch DVDs until I have the whole show... This is where I start to remind myself why I shouldn't watch long shows. If they get licensed befor completion, it's a goddamned bitch. At 37 eps it's not nearly as bad as Bleach or something but... blargh.

And ADV? I assume Viz. Which might mean it takes even longer...

Oh well, better this happens now I guess, before I get TOO irrevocably hooked. That's one show out of the weekly rotation... I'll be back to comment in about 2009 =P

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Well, two points.

1. It's not like it's a huge surprise that Death Note would be licensed anyway. Wouldn't shock me if the deal had been made weeks ago.

2. With that in mind, just about anybody could write that Death Note has been licensed and it would be plausible. I don't see how ANS's vaguely worded announcement changes anything.

something

11-06-2006, 04:55 AM

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Arcturus said:
1. It's not like it's a huge surprise that Death Note would be licensed anyway. Wouldn't shock me if the deal had been made weeks ago.

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Well, of course not given how big the manga is. I wouldn't say I was surprised or anything.

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2. With that in mind, just about anybody could write that Death Note has been licensed and it would be plausible. I don't see how ANS's vaguely worded announcement changes anything.

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Yeah, but if they're even half right it sounds like an announcement can't be TOO far off. So I might as well stop watching now because any extra I watch will just make it harder when it's official /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif

something

11-06-2006, 04:58 AM

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May I suggest reading the manga?

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I've thought about it, but two problems... well one problem and one potential problem.

The first is that peple are saying it's similar to the manga. Very, very similar in fact. I don't want to pay for the same things twice, and I'm more of an anime person anyway, so I'd probably pass on the manga.

Second is that with the glacial rate that most manga gets released, if this is a large number of volumes I'll probably have the anime in my hands first, regardless =P Still, it's Shounen Jump so Viz might be pumping it out the door quickly, and this might not be as much of an issue.

Fencedude

11-06-2006, 08:21 AM

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11-5-06 (5:34PM EDT)---- Death Note Anime Licensed For America

ANS has learned the Death Note TV animation has been officially licensed for release in the North American market in 2007. We'll leave the actual licensee to properly announce themselves at their preferred time and in their preferred manner. A few things have to come together before that can happen though. Look for some official word in the form of simultaneous / coordinated press releases anywhere from weeks at earliest to months at latest.

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Once again I am reminded of how much I dislike ANS.

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Thats being nice.

I personally think they are full of shit.

(see also: Anime Company non-payment article)

The Pirate Queen

11-06-2006, 08:29 AM

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disarm said:
Second is that with the glacial rate that most manga gets released, if this is a large number of volumes I'll probably have the anime in my hands first, regardless =P Still, it's Shounen Jump so Viz might be pumping it out the door quickly, and this might not be as much of an issue.

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Volume 8 (of 13, IIRC) just came out. It's being released fairly quickly - one volume every two months.

TheGreenMan

11-06-2006, 09:52 AM

Reinhardt

11-06-2006, 10:49 AM

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11-5-06 (5:34PM EDT)---- Death Note Anime Licensed For America

ANS has learned the Death Note TV animation has been officially licensed for release in the North American market in 2007. We'll leave the actual licensee to properly announce themselves at their preferred time and in their preferred manner. A few things have to come together before that can happen though. Look for some official word in the form of simultaneous / coordinated press releases anywhere from weeks at earliest to months at latest.

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Once again I am reminded of how much I dislike ANS.

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Thats being nice.

I personally think they are full of shit.

(see also: Anime Company non-payment article)

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This is one of those big non-announcements/crappy journalism.... You could make this generic statement regarding any hot new anime in Japan and it will most likely be true. **** series will be announced by a company within the next few months, what shocking news!!!

Chiyosuke

11-06-2006, 11:09 AM

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Not seeing the "obviously Geneon" part.

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Thank you!

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They have a strong relationship with Madhouse and VAP.

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And how exactly do you know that? Every R1 company (okay, not every) has a title from Madhouse and/or vap/NTV in som form or fashion. If you know for sure about this strong relationship, state your proof because all I see right there is an assumption. Again, this is a Shounen Jump title. Viz has a VERY "strong relationship" with Shueisha (ie, Shueisha [co]owns them) so DN could very well go to them. Madhouse, vap and NTV all deal with everyone, so there is no strong relationship. As much as I'd love to see every great title go to Geneon USA, that "obviously Geneon" comment might be as full of shit as ANS may be with this article.

treatment

11-06-2006, 11:30 AM

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It's obviously either Viz or Geneon.

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I dunno about that. If I would go the obviously route, I'll most likely pick Manga Ent instead. Since ADV's been in the late-confirming licensing-news lately, I figured they got DN, too.

As for VIZ, even if they have the manga, the Death Note anime doesn't particularly fit into their anime-lineup/image so I reckon it'll be sublicensed to another company, imo. But who knows.

As for Geneon, I don't see them getting this as it's a 37-ep long series. Funimation might be a good bet, tho.

Chiyosuke

11-06-2006, 11:47 AM

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It's obviously either Viz or Geneon.

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I dunno about that. If I would go the obviously route, I'll most likely pick Manga Ent instead.

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lol. I really hope that was sarcasm /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Since ADV's been in the late-confirming licensing-news lately, I figured they got DN, too.

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Hey, anything's possible, even if that came off as completely random.

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As for VIZ, even if they have the manga, the Death Note anime doesn't particularly fit into their anime-lineup/image so I reckon it'll be sublicensed to another company.

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Again, I hope that was sarcasm. Viz isn't dumb enough to skip on a hot property to protect their "image"... they edit them /images/graemlins/devil.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif (well the manga anyway). And quite honestly, they are THE ONLY company that would be an obvious candidate at the moment. If it does end up in another's hand, I'll chalk it up to chance. Remember, the current trend in licensing is having a relationship with the Japanese licensor. For instance, Geneon USA - denstu, Geneon Ent. (Rondo Robe), Sogovision, d-rights. FUNi - GDH. BEI - Bandai Visual, Sunrise, Bandai Co., and Happinet Pictures (if they were smart >_>). Viz - Shueisha, Shogakukan, Shogakukan Production, Hakusensha, hell, anyone in the Hitotsubashi group (that's the group they all fall under).

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As for Geneon, I don't see them getting this as it's a 37-ep long series. Funimation might be a good bet, tho.

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GUSA's handled longer series in the past, so I doubt an episode count's gonna stop them. And agreed, IF Viz isn't the licensor, Funi is a good bet.

something

11-06-2006, 08:36 PM

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Volume 8 (of 13, IIRC) just came out. It's being released fairly quickly - one volume every two months.

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Hmm, didn't realize it was licensed more than a year and a half ago. So it would be done in another year or so... still, I don't want to double dip on a story. Hobby is expensive enough without buying something twice >_>

11-07-2006, 12:27 AM

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Volume 8 (of 13, IIRC) just came out. It's being released fairly quickly - one volume every two months.

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Hmm, didn't realize it was licensed more than a year and a half ago. So it would be done in another year or so... still, I don't want to double dip on a story. Hobby is expensive enough without buying something twice >_>

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It looks like the anime is shaping up to be at least as good as the manga as well, so this is one story the non manga readers (a.k.a. me) don't have to feel shortchanged on.

After seeing Ep.5 I'm convinced that Light is the craziest (and most interesting) evil genius ever. Poor FBI bastards, they didn't really have it coming even.... Definitely shows just how dark the show will really get now that Light is killing people just for himself and not to "punish evil people" anymore.

Gersen

11-07-2006, 04:18 AM

I really really really hope it's not Viz that has the license (even thought with the rumors of Viz Europe having the license it seem likely they did /images/graemlins/cry00000.gif )

First Noein licensed by Manga, then Bleach by Viz and now maybe H&C and Death Note too /images/graemlins/anger200.gif

Oh well more money for the rest /images/graemlins/relief1.gif

Gersen

Thanatos

11-07-2006, 06:35 AM

He has to bump off people who try to obstruct justice.

I asked my students what would they do if they found a deathnote. They said "burn it." Then they asked me. "Of course, I'd built a new world." They applauded. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

11-07-2006, 11:21 AM

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He has to bump off people who try to obstruct justice.

I asked my students what would they do if they found a deathnote. They said "burn it." Then they asked me. "Of course, I'd built a new world." They applauded. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

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This kind of thing always makes for a good story just because of human nature. It's not so easy to resist the opportunity to play god.

kamillebidan

11-07-2006, 05:23 PM

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Not seeing the "obviously Geneon" part.

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Thank you!

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They have a strong relationship with Madhouse and VAP.

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And how exactly do you know that? Every R1 company (okay, not every) has a title from Madhouse and/or vap/NTV in som form or fashion. If you know for sure about this strong relationship, state your proof because all I see right there is an assumption. Again, this is a Shounen Jump title. Viz has a VERY "strong relationship" with Shueisha (ie, Shueisha [co]owns them) so DN could very well go to them. Madhouse, vap and NTV all deal with everyone, so there is no strong relationship. As much as I'd love to see every great title go to Geneon USA, that "obviously Geneon" comment might be as full of shit as ANS may be with this article.

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First off, before I go any further, my original post said "obviously Viz or Geneon." Don't twist my words.

Second, I don't recall claiming to be a respected and professional anime news source. So don't tell me that what I said is "as full of shit as ANS." I'm speculating, not making an announcement. You can't equate what I ponder in a message board post to what they say as an actual news bulletin. The two statements do not have the same ethos. ANS has an obligation to research and back up their claims. If I were to go to those lengths to satisfy you, I'd be doing it because I felt like it, not because I should have to. In other words, you definitely have reason to question their no-source, no-proof "reporting," but you should not object so violently to my meaningless speculation.

If I for some reason felt obligated to rigorously defend my speculation, then maybe I'd go start researching every title Madhouse and VAP have ever made and who licensed what. But I don't. So I'll just say this: I made my speculation based on what I'm familiar with. When I think of successful Madhouse titles, I think of Trigun, X TV, Hajime no Ippo (Fighting Spirit), Paranoia Agent, Cardcaptor Sakura, Texhnolyze, Tenhjo Tenge... all of these are Geneon titles. Admittedly, I am not as familiar with VAP but I do know they had a hand in production of Hajime no Ippo and Lupin III, also Geneon titles. I figured that, based on these examples, Geneon must have a strong relationship with these companies if they continually work together to bring these popular titles to the US. I apologize if this doesn't satisfy you.

Lastly, out of everyone in this thread who speculated a license from someone else other than Viz (or in my case, in addition to Viz), why are you jumping down my throat the hardest? Do you have a problem with Geneon? Or a problem with me?

something

11-07-2006, 06:21 PM

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Do you have a problem with Geneon? Or a problem with me?

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He has a problem with the "Madhouse = likely Geneon" thing. He's argued against it multiple times before, which I guess is where he's coming from. I don't think it's you personally or anything.

Chiyosuke is very... passionate... about his Japanese anime company research =P

11-07-2006, 09:32 PM

Don't take him personally, he just gets really into it. Chiyo-chan (I'm sorry dude but Zanza has got me started and it's just so funny....) is actually pretty personable.

Atomsk

11-18-2006, 06:20 AM

Hey, where has the discussion about the anime itself gone? /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Anyway, actually I'm a bit put off by episode 7. It clearly shows again Light is just a psychopath: no morals whatsoever. Combined with the fact it's way too early for Light to get caught, you just know that any minor character who's a direct threath will be murdered by him. Of course it's not 100% sure that Naomi will commit suicide, but I'd be really surprised if she ever showed up again.. This kind of takes away the suspense for me. At least for this episode.

I hope the next episode things will be balanced out a bit.

Dagger

11-18-2006, 09:39 AM

Heh, I thought episode 7 was the best yet. My perspective is a little skewed, though, since I'm a manga reader. Without making significant changes, the anime version really brought out the tragedy of what happened to Naomi Misora. The snow, the silence, the music at the end... brilliant.

I wonder if this means the OP animation will get tweaked soon?

tenma501

11-18-2006, 09:56 AM

Episode 7 is great.


I love Ryuk's laughing in this eps when Light writes Naomi's fake name down and how sly Light is into her giving out her real name and then how Ryuk laughs there too.
And then when she asks why do you keep checking your watch.
With 5 seconds left Ohh that because I'm Kira and then Naomi's look on her face OHH NO just awesome


I guess some ppl would consider Light to be evil but I find him and what he does to be very entertaining I'm always cheering for him.

I'm also finding myself enjoying the anime more than the manga.
The music,the voices etc...are making this more exciting for me.

evilarrex

11-19-2006, 08:00 PM

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Anyway, actually I'm a bit put off by episode 7. It clearly shows again Light is just a psychopath: no morals whatsoever.

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Errr yes. Light is a veeeeery bad man.
Remember, these people are standing between him and Godhood! /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Thanatos

11-19-2006, 10:22 PM

Exactly. Light's not bad guy; there are just some unfortunate people who insist on stopping him. All he wants to do is set up a perfect world and be its Hades.

flchick

11-20-2006, 12:29 AM

I think I know where ANS got their info about the anime being licensed.

Viz was at MIPCOM: Site (http://www.mipcom.com/App/homepage.cfm?moduleid=399&appname=100495)
where they announced they have the world rights to the anime except in Asia- according to the post on this French anime site (http://www.anime-france.info/index.php?549-la-serie-death-note-licenciee-par-viz-media)

I didn't look into it any further but the conference did take place in Cannes.

Gersen

11-20-2006, 03:11 AM

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Viz was at MIPCOM: Site (http://www.mipcom.com/App/homepage.cfm?moduleid=399&appname=100495)
where they announced they have the world rights to the anime except in Asia- according to the post on this French anime site (http://www.anime-france.info/index.php?549-la-serie-death-note-licenciee-par-viz-media)

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Yeah sadly it has been mentioned a long time ago, in the R1 thread IRC, it just mean one more serie I will probably never own on DVD /images/graemlins/anger100.gif /images/graemlins/relief1.gif

Gersen

11-20-2006, 11:28 AM

Psycho or not he makes for one of the most fascinating anime series characters in years. Seven episodes and each has been gripping so far.

In other thoughts, is it just me or is Ryuk helping Light just a little too much? I don't know if it's deliberate or accidental but he's provided him with quite a few clues that have kept him out of trouble so far. If he hadn't started laughing like that Light may never have realized her name was an alias.

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11-20-2006, 02:29 PM

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Psycho or not he makes for one of the most fascinating anime series characters in years. Seven episodes and each has been gripping so far.

In other thoughts, is it just me or is Ryuk helping Light just a little too much? I don't know if it's deliberate or accidental but he's provided him with quite a few clues that have kept him out of trouble so far. If he hadn't started laughing like that Light may never have realized her name was an alias.

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I don't think Ryuk thinks of it as helping Light; it's all just sort of a game to him. It's probably the same thing as one of us yelling at the TV. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

lunap

11-21-2006, 01:16 AM

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Psycho or not he makes for one of the most fascinating anime series characters in years. Seven episodes and each has been gripping so far.

In other thoughts, is it just me or is Ryuk helping Light just a little too much? I don't know if it's deliberate or accidental but he's provided him with quite a few clues that have kept him out of trouble so far. If he hadn't started laughing like that Light may never have realized her name was an alias..

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Nah, he's too smart to need to rely on Ryuk's chortling to figure out whats what. Mitsuki's pretty much nailed it= he's just enjoying the show and couldnt help laugh out loud. I know I was smirking while watching, and on edge of my seat. I've read it all but /damn/ doesnt it feel good to watch and anticipate Light's evil innerworkings come to life.
And second the impact of Naomi's realization. Except I was thinking "pwned!!!" [hey its anime- I can cheer and root for the bad guy all I want ^_____^] The falling snow surprised me and was just... beautiful [was wondering where it had gone].
My broke ass bought a 30G Creative zen just to watch Deathnote on the go. I'm sure I weirded out the people riding the train by laughing and gasping outloud to a 2.5 screen /images/graemlins/knowital.gif /images/graemlins/shy10000.gif.

beatmania

11-21-2006, 03:53 AM

What's up with L ... he's like a monkey. They way he squats on the sofa, dials the phone, drinks his beverage, etc.

Hope we get a background episode.

11-21-2006, 11:52 AM

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What's up with L ... he's like a monkey. They way he squats on the sofa, dials the phone, drinks his beverage, etc.

Hope we get a background episode.

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They say geniuses always have some "curious" social behaviors.

Dagger

11-21-2006, 08:07 PM

evilarrex

11-27-2006, 09:37 PM

I really enjoyed this cat n mouse game between L and Light in the manga. So far the anime is not dissappointing. Oh looking forward to the next eVil twist coming up. :evil:

Thanatos

11-27-2006, 10:09 PM

Episode 8 brings us the most grandiose potato chip eating scene EVAR. It must be seen to be believed.

A fun episode--the animators jazzed it up in hilarious ways even without (seemingly) much budget to speak of.

That's why Death Note is awesome; any mundane thing can become dramatic. Look at the opening in which Light bites the apple. They could trigger the gothic music as L licks ice cream. :P

The Creation

11-29-2006, 10:04 PM

never before have i been disgusted by the main character as much as this dude. i won't be buying this show even if it gets released here. it's kinda like those that scream "once is enough" type of shows. i wanna see him suffer and die a painful death slowly... that ending just might redeem this show a little. distasteful but who cares it's free.

11-29-2006, 11:02 PM

The whole point of a show like this is to evoke strong reactions. It's a thinkers show, and apparently a bit too much of one for your tastes. The amazing writing and directing does nothing for you, huh? I also find your last sentence to be an awfully curious sentiment.

The Creation

11-29-2006, 11:25 PM

i have to admit the artwork, the pacing, and the animation are all top notch but those can't save the show if the main character is detestable. tell me what's so addictive about watching a psychopath kill innocent people with his godlike intelligence, perception, and LUCK?

you know this show won't end on a light note and all that's left will be this empty feeling which i hate. this is the kind of show that i stop caring about what's going on in the middle and just wanna see the ending, see how painful this dude's death is gonna be. and that will be the only satisfaction i get out of this show.

Arcturus

11-30-2006, 12:53 AM

While I haven't seen the anime, I've read all the manga released for Death Note in North America. I have to say that the moral ambiguity is one of its primary draws for me...that, and the whole "battle of wits" approach to the story.

I normally don't like series where I don't sympathize with the main character, but I love Death Note. It's just incredibly well written.

11-30-2006, 11:46 AM

I think the point of such a show is that it begs of you the question "what would I do if I had such powers?" There are the things we'd tell other people we'd do then then things we'd probably really do when the power got to us and our true nature comes out. The show is meant to get you thinking about things like this. Sometimes unpleasant content is far more provoking and entertaining in it's own way. As a thriller Death Note is the best of the best and the show has done a remarkable job of making me wonder just how it's going to play out in the end.

Yuriko

11-30-2006, 01:16 PM

He's not detestable to me. Whilst I'm completely on the side of the folks chasing him, the beauty was that to me Light's descent into wickedness was so gradual and understandable as a human being that it almost feels sinful to read about it all. I like watching some of the things he does later on, even though it's uncomfortable, and I like trying to out think both sides. If you hate it you should stop watching it, free or otherwise :roll: it screws my head up when people like something enough to watch but not enough to support (I don't think you like DN at all though...).

Y

The Creation

11-30-2006, 06:18 PM

you will see. we are only on ep 8. these are just my speculations but later on light will be forced to make the eye deal with ryuk and then proceed to kill loads of innocent people before finally realizing how much he has strayed away from his intended path of righteousness, and then the final name he is writing down on the deathnote will be his own.... ha let's just see if this is how the story concludes, too bad not painful enough.

i have to say i disagree that this is a thinker's show. the characters motives are crystal clear. they explain their intentions, their thought processes, and their strategies blatantly to the audiences' face. there's little thinking required at least for me. thinker's shows to me are more along the lines of flcl, ghost in the shell, and blood+ where characters' intentions aren't always revealed that easily. but that's just my opinion, no offense toward any fan of death note.

kaiyouske

11-30-2006, 06:36 PM

If this is not a 'thinker's show, why are you here posting your thoughts? It's obvious that this show is making you think like a little bitch. I know that after watching every episode it makes my gears in my brain move quite a bit. :P

The Creation

11-30-2006, 07:04 PM

If this is not a 'thinker's show, why are you here posting your thoughts?

let me get this straight, so you regard this as a thinker's show just because someone posts his/her thoughts on it? so what about harems or pokemon or whatever? i can still post my thoughts on them can't i, so are those thinker's shows now?

the characters explain what their thoughts and objectives clearly, so what else can you be thinking? there's nothing left unexplained is there? at least not for the first 8 ep.

kaiyouske

11-30-2006, 07:25 PM

Well, it doesn't seem to me that you're merely posting your thoughts on it. You also said that you hate the main character and all that jazz. As for pokemon, I can't really say since I never watched it. However, for most action animes I usually just watch it with no thinking involved. Maybe I'm reading into your posts too much.....who knows... heh.

evilarrex

11-30-2006, 07:35 PM

and then the final name he is writing down on the deathnote will be his own.... ha let's just see if this is how the story concludes, too bad not painful enough.

You assume that goodness will triumph? Muah! ha! ha! ha! :evil:

On the subject of this being a thinkers show - my view is that while characters actions and motives are pretty abundantly clear,
The audience's mind is engaged to the extent of "so he thinks he has left no clues - lets see if I can drive a bus into that arguement".
Of course since the audience has only an imprecise understanding of the circumstances - this works only the extent of the "5 year old advisor to the eVil overlord" test.
An example would be Ray Penbar's demise. It would be logical to assume that there are security cameras in all railway stations. And this is what we are shown. Not living in Japan I don't know if there are also security cameras in each railway car. Which could be a possibility. Now if there were... then you can drive a bus through the author's logic and the clues/case becomes that much easier to solve.

11-30-2006, 10:47 PM

It's not meant to get you thinking about the show, it's meant to get you thinking about the other stuff. The concepts and motivations behind such circumstances if you were faced with them. That's what I think the director's secondary purpose was at least.... I kind of get that impression.

tenma501

12-04-2006, 01:23 PM

If you hate Light so much why are you still watching it?

:roll:

Thanatos

12-04-2006, 04:45 PM

If you hate Light so much why are you still watching it?

:roll:

Must enjoy self-torture. :P

The Creation

12-04-2006, 09:02 PM

argh i don't hate light at the beginning. in fact i even agree with him to a certain degree about killing incorrigible criminals. it was after ep. 7 that i began to generate a strong resentment toward that dude.

actually my very first negative impression on him is when he said something along the lines of "i would hate to be forced to kill my family" if they find and touch that death note. this BASTARD chooses a freaking book over his family's lives, can you believe that?? and you guys still keep defending this bastard? freaking nutcase, need to get himself killed ASAP.

and most of you seem to be dazzled by his wit and ruthlessness. a person who doesn't give a damn about taking lives away just to reinforce and demonstrate his power (well death god's power not his. he's just got supernatural luck that's all.) you guys have to see the big picture. he uses his superficial wit to hide his immaturity. i wholeheartedly agree with what L said in that one episode regarding this bastard.

so no i haven't watching ep 9 yet but i will keep an eye on the ending to see if my prediction comes true. and i fully support L and hope his gang can bring this "light" to real justice.

Dagger

12-04-2006, 09:31 PM

I'm not a fan of Light, either, but it wouldn't do to ignore the fact that there are some strong parallels between him and L. If L had gotten the Death Note instead, we can't be sure that he wouldn't have used it in much the same way as Light (albeit with different reasoning, perhaps).

The Creation

12-04-2006, 09:41 PM

yeah i suppose, just to show how much that power can corrupt even the most righteous of individuals. though i would never, i mean NEVER, put this damnable book before my family. heck no need to get worked up it's all fictional. i don't hate the show itself (great artwork, character design, writing, concept and animation,) i hate that goddamn bastard they call a protagonist.

evilarrex

12-04-2006, 09:51 PM

He is the Villain.
The fact is - this story is being told from eVil's viewpoint.
Oh and I can see you being ever so gutted soon! :evil:

The Creation

12-04-2006, 10:06 PM

He is the Villain.
The fact is - this story is being told from eVil's viewpoint.
Oh and I can see you being ever so gutted soon! :evil:

what's gonna happen? i couldn't care less if you spoiled the whole thing, just put a spoiler tag on. i would love to know how the story ends right now but that's impossible (haven't read the manga though, and frankly don't intend to.)

and yes i can see that he is a villain but then again he is the MAIN dude of the show. so to continue watching the show means to continue seeing his stinky face which i would rather not. so if you would be so kind as to tell me how the manga or novel or whatever ends i would greatly appreciate the spoilers and be done with it.

personally i am more interested in seeing the ending than the course of the show of this kind.

Thanatos

12-05-2006, 01:07 AM

How the manga ends
Light is cornered by Near, the sucessor of the deceased L. With no way out and having admitted he's Kira, Ryuk writes Light's name down in his own deathnote and Light dies. The end.

How I hope the anime ends
Light tricks a shinigami into writing down L's real name. L dies, Light rules the world as the new Hades.

Aren't you happy? Now you don't have to watch this show you hate anymore.

By the way, it is possible to buy toy death notes in Japan? If they are made as merchandise I'd like one.

12-05-2006, 11:26 AM

I'd be surprised if there wasn't one. I think they should make a Death Note board game in the same vein as Clue personally. :)

The Creation

12-05-2006, 03:24 PM

great ending i guess. yeah and i was thinking how come ruyk has 2 death notes so that's what it was about. can't say i am surprised and of course spoiler
justice always prevails right? thanks for sharing the manga ending with me.

evilarrex

12-05-2006, 03:28 PM

Indeed.
Thanatos' noted it in passing but lets be explicit
Justice takes the long route
If you are rooting for L though..... you will be tearing your hair out. He will die a Horrible Death. :evil:

TnAdct1

12-05-2006, 09:16 PM

Indeed.
Thanatos' noted it in passing but lets be explicit
Justice takes the long route
If you are rooting for L though..... you will be tearing your hair out. He will die a Horrible Death. :evil:
Unless the anime decides to use the same ending that the second Death Note movie uses.

evilarrex

12-05-2006, 09:46 PM

Unless the anime decides to use the same ending that the second Death Note movie uses.

Given the projected length of the series, The pacing to date, I find that pretty unlikely. :)

Dagger

12-05-2006, 10:37 PM

I'd be surprised if there wasn't one. I think they should make a Death Note board game in the same vein as Clue personally. :)

Well, there's going to be a DS game. I'm very much looking forward to it. :evil: As for Death Note replicas, I've seen quite a few photos of them online, but I don't know whether any of them were official merchandise.

tenma501

12-06-2006, 02:12 AM

How death note ends and other spoilers

Well also unlike your prediction
Light never does the eye deal.
He has other people use the Death Note for him.
And also unlike what you think...thinking he would kill his family.
He doesn't and won't and because he won't it actually causes him more problems later on in the series.
Light also plays the role of pretending to be going after Kira.
Light's biggest downfall is trusting others too much to use the Death Note like he can and other things as well.

In the end Light begs for his life too.

Although Ryuk kills Light.
Personally I thought Ryuk should've been like Light I was bored and dropped the Death Note you have truly entertained me and I've had many tasty apples but you lost because you wanted Near dead so much and other reasons etc..
But in return I'm killing Near but I'm also killing you Light because you've been caught as Kira.
And then Kira should've became a Shinigami or something.
Or something else.
There is a lot of what if or maybe this ideas to what could've happen in Death Note.
Death Note ended way too soon and the series should've went on longer or gone in a different direction than it did.
The author must have ran out of ideas or got bored.
Death Note is just too cool of a plot idea to have ended up like it did.

All I have to say is your lost man a lot of good parts are coming up.
If you only seen 8 episodes you only went through 17 of 108 chapters.
I can't believe a anime character would make someone act like you are about it...LOL