Prequels to GaoGaiGar?

[Super Saiyajin Joshua]

I picked up GaoGaiGar volume 1 at Bestbuy yesterday(10/24) and on the back of the insert is lists the eight sunrise "Brave" shows:
Brave Fighter Exkaiser
Brave of the sun Fighbird
Brave of the Legend Da-Garn
Brave Express mightgaine
Brave Police J-Decker
Goldran the Brave of Gold
Command of Braves Dagwon
King of the Braves GaoGaiGar

Do any of these have continuity with each other? If so are any of the other one out in R1?

BTW. Watched the frist two episodes so far. Very neat show. Looking forward to the rest.

[Vicserr]

Each show stands on it's own but some characters do appear in later works, more details here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuusha)

[Super Saiyajin Joshua]

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Vicserr said:
Each show stands on it's own but some characters do appear in later works, more details here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuusha)

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Cool thanks. My girlfriend and I think we're really going to enjoy this show and I've had the theme song stuck in my head all day.

[Vicserr]

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SuperSaiyajinJoshua said:
My girlfriend and I think we're really going to enjoy this show and I've had the theme song stuck in my head all day.

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Considering this is the brave show that is most influensed by the Super Robot shows of old...it's coolness beyond cool /images/graemlins/wink.gif

The Theme song has that effect on ppl, my wife hates it... I don't know what will happen when my vol. 1 + box arrives /images/graemlins/knowital.gif

[Super Saiyajin Joshua]

Will the GaoGaiGar OVA being coming out also? I heard it's supposed to have continuty with the TV show.

[Vicserr]

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SuperSaiyajinJoshua said:
Will the GaoGaiGar OVA being coming out also? I heard it's supposed to have continuty with the TV show.

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No news about the Final ova or the Grand Glorious Gathering tv series, hopefully MB will pick them up if the GaoGaiGar tv series proves successful, so tell all your friends to pick up this awesome series because "a courageous heart can make anything possible!

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SuperSaiyajinJoshua said:
Will the GaoGaiGar OVA being coming out also? I heard it's supposed to have continuty with the TV show.

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Hmmm...I can't remember if Media Blasters said that they had FINAL as well or not.

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Vicserr said:
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SuperSaiyajinJoshua said:
Will the GaoGaiGar OVA being coming out also? I heard it's supposed to have continuty with the TV show.

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No news about the Final ova or the Grand Glorious Gathering tv series, hopefully MB will pick them up if the GaoGaiGar tv series proves successful, so tell all your friends to pick up this awesome series because "a courageous heart can make anything possible!

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Really, we can pass on Grand Glorious Gathering.

FINAL with the fanservice cut out and more recaps?

DO NOT WANT.

[Andrew Cunningham]

Aren't their four extra episodes though?

[macross011a]

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Vicserr said:
Considering this is the Brave show that is most influensed by the Super Robot shows of old...it's coolness beyond cool /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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The Brave Robots had a lot of influences from Transformers as well, such as sentient machines that transform. Some of the Brave robots were recolored Transformers.

Sadly, the return of Transformers (Beast Wars, specifically) made Takara (the creator of the Braves) to kill the Brave franchise from continuing, aside from OAV sequels.

At least some influences from the Braves end up on Transformers, such as Energon Omega Supreme sharing the same transformation as ChoRyuJin.

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The Theme song has that effect on ppl, my wife hates it... I don't know what will happen when my vol. 1 + box arrives /images/graemlins/knowital.gif

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Aside from Gaogaigar's opening theme, I liked Brave Exkaiser's opening.

The other Brave themes are too generic, IMO.

[iserlohn]

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Andrew Cunningham said:
Aren't their four extra episodes though?

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Episodes of Final were a full 30 min. except for the last one which was 35 or 40. Cut those down to 25 min., add in a little bit of recap and extra footage to pimp the Betterman connection here and there, and bam, extra episodes.

And honestly, I'd rather NOT see Media Blasters get GGGF, just because the only person who can play Guy in the dub and *not* sound lame as hell reciting his cheesy lines (yes, cheesier than in GGG TV) is Adam West. While GGG is campy and over the top, it's within the bounds of taste. Final ignores those bounds, and goes beyond silly.+

re: influence from shows of old, Exkizer has the most direct influences but it was also written to be a kids' show, and not an otaku show masquerading as a kids' show, so it slips under a lot of peoples' radar.

Also, it's interesting that Media Blasters aren't using the revised official English titles on their insert.

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SuperSaiyajinJoshua said:
Cool thanks. My girlfriend and I think we're really going to enjoy this show and I've had the theme song stuck in my head all day.

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The Brave Robot series span a large toyline akin to the Transformers, which were replaced by the Braves in the 1990s. Once Gaogaigar was over in Japan, Takara (the creators of the Braves) replaced the toyline with the Transformers.

Here's a thread from a Transformer board, featuring various Brave toys, including Gaogaigar.

Various Brave Robot toys with pictures (55 pages long!!!) (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=98174)

There has been various re-issues and new toys recently as well. Takara's recent release was the Masterpiece editions of Brave Exkaiser and Brave Dragon Kaiser, akin to Masterpiece Optimus Prime and Starscream toys.

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iserlohn said:
re: influence from shows of old, Exkizer has the most direct influences but it was also written to be a kids' show,

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True, but the other shows are above Exkaizer's storytelling quality. I read front an article from Animerica Extra that Exkaizer is a copy of Transformers: Victory and it shows when I get to see it for the first time.

So far, I haven't seen J-Decker and Goldran, though.

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and not an otaku show masquerading as a kids' show, so it slips under a lot of peoples' radar.

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The best anime show that fits that description other than Gaogaigar was Sunrise's Machine Robo Rescue. And that was above what Hasbro/Takara was offering at the time (Transformers: Armada).

I cringed that Bandai didn't import MRR here.

[iserlohn]

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Scourge said:
read front an article from Animerica Extra that Exkaizer is a copy of Transformers: Victory and it shows when I get to see it for the first time.

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I didn't know about that part (though I did know that a bunch of the toys were recasts from TF toys), but Exkizer is very episodic in nature, and I'm not sure if it ever really does get a metaplot.

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So far, I haven't seen J-Decker and Goldran, though.

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J-Decker is a lot of fun, and it's enjoyable on a lot of levels (including the "which robots end up in yaoi doujin" game). It's a kids' show, but it's also based on an old 60s detective series. If nothing else, J-Decker deserves props because ALL of the robots have personalities and are actually given enough screen time to develop characters. This is one of the things that really bugged me about Might Gaine (no character development and barely any AI robots).

Goldran rivals GGG for being my favourite, to the point where I gave in and dropped the cash for the R2s (which are jawdroppingly impressive) while I'll grab the R1 of GGG instead. It managed to have a metaplot and combines being an adventure series with being a robot show with being a cracked out comedy. It took a while to find its audience, but once it did it got the highest ratings in mecha history short of Evangelion (which was airing at the same time) until Gundam Seed came along.


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and not an otaku show masquerading as a kids' show, so it slips under a lot of peoples' radar.

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The best anime show that fits that description other than Gaogaigar was Sunrise's Machine Robo Rescue. And that was above what Hasbro/Takara was offering at the time (Transformers: Armada).

I cringed that Bandai didn't import MRR here.

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MRR was OK, but the original MR didn't do very well over here, so importing MRR would not be financially sound.

Hopefully GGG will do well and we can start getting some of the other Yusha. If they're smart, they'll play pick and choose with the order, because while there is a lot of awesomeness to be had, you also have shows like Dagwon which really do not mesh well with the others. Of course, GGG didn't either...

[Panon]

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Andrew Cunningham said:
Aren't their four extra episodes though?

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No, the only reason the episode count is higher is because they recut things to make the show fit into television timeslots better than the OVA episodes would.

For example, the first episode of FINAL is 30 minutes long - the first two episodes of Grand Glorious Gathering are each 14 minutes of the first OVA along with 10 minutes of pointless filler and credits to bring them up to the standard 24 minute tv episode length.

It completely ruins FINALs pacing since things don't happen when they're meant to happen, surprises are revealed before they should be in the new next episode previews, etc.

[Thanatos]

Actually, with newness, kid-friendliness and CGI robots, I`m surprised Machine Robo Rescue wasn`t licensed by Fox or 4kids.

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Thanatos said:
Actually, with newness, kid-friendliness and CGI robots, I`m surprised Machine Robo Rescue wasn`t licensed by Fox or 4kids.

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Wasn't MRR only 52 episodes? That would make it too short for network broadcast/syndication, since Fox/4Kids usually want their weekend stuff to end up in daily rotation.

[geraldr]

While I don't have the details of this, I understand that there is some sort of strange continuity or maybe in jokes in the show Brigadoon, which the director of Gaogaigar worked on. I can't say the specifics, but the shows sort of have the same flavor, so maybe there's something that links the shows together in a strange way.

[Andrew Cunningham]

He did Gaogaigar, Betterman, and Brigadoon in rapid succession, and them seems to have completely vanished.