View Full Version : The Anime Encyclopedia - Revised & Updated is out
mike.motaku
11-02-2006, 08:16 AM
I picked up my copy yesterday. Nearly a third larger than the previous edition. Huge. Some earlier entries have been expanded or completely redone.
The author notes about fan response to the first edition are pretty much what you'd expect: Everything from outright praise to complaints that it didn't include an anime that the "fan" had just downloaded that day to prayers being offered in the hopes that the authors would someday change their minds about another fan's favorite all-time show.
This edition includes a lot of anime released in 2006 but will of course not include summer/fall season 2006 releases.
It is still a significant achievement in anime academia, especially in this age of The Google and the internets. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif Almost endlessly entertaining and highly recommended.
Puppet Master
11-02-2006, 08:25 AM
Nice mines in the mail since it shipped from TESI recently so I should have it later this week or Monday at the latest.
itsuka
11-02-2006, 11:23 AM
Did they manage to get over the attitude of giving nasty reviews of about every anime made after, oh, 1980 or so, apart from those by Miyazaki?
I remember being especially pissed off at their choice in the previous edition of ridiculing Crest of the Stars and suggesting Lafiel was a stupid space bimbo.
I wouldn't mind buying the next edition if their attitude has improved somewhat... So, as a test, can you look up what they have to say about Crest of the Stars in this edition?
Njr Scrawl
11-02-2006, 11:43 AM
Got my order in! Most reviews are OK. I was angered at what they say about YUA & OMG before IIRC.
Still its a good reference book & opinions are not affected by advertisers & sponsors, as some publications are, so can be harsher than what we're used to I guess.
Anime Companion vols. 1 & 2 by Gilles Poitras are good buys as well.
chloes_fork
11-02-2006, 11:51 AM
According to the package tracking, my copy should be waiting for me on my doorstep this evening. /images/graemlins/happy.gif
Mr. Nail Bat
11-02-2006, 12:11 PM
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Itsuka said:
Did they manage to get over the attitude of giving nasty reviews of about every anime made after, oh, 1980 or so, apart from those by Miyazaki?
I remember being especially pissed off at their choice in the previous edition of ridiculing Crest of the Stars and suggesting Lafiel was a stupid space bimbo.
I wouldn't mind buying the next edition if their attitude has improved somewhat... So, as a test, can you look up what they have to say about Crest of the Stars in this edition?
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Yeah, that was my major problem with the first edition: far too much snark for any work bearing the name 'encyclopedia'.
I won't be picking up the new edition: Wikipedia has more-than-adequate coverage of anime.
Skywise
11-02-2006, 01:00 PM
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Itsuka said:
I remember being especially pissed off at their choice in the previous edition of ridiculing Crest of the Stars and suggesting Lafiel was a stupid space bimbo.
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Umm.. she *is* a stupid space bimbo /images/graemlins/tongue.gif. Not that people don't like her anyway (or because of it).
Thanatos
11-02-2006, 04:55 PM
Yeah, a ton of the reviews in the first edition were overly negative and sassy. Not to mention many of them also spoiled the series' plot twists within the first two sentences.
mike.motaku
11-02-2006, 05:03 PM
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Yeah, a ton of the reviews in the first edition were overly negative and sassy. Not to mention many of them also spoiled the series' plot twists within the first two sentences.
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What?! Anime fans being overly negative and sassy? Horrors! Honey, isn't that, like, part of the membership charter? /images/graemlins/knowital.gif
Shsway
11-02-2006, 05:27 PM
Och, thanks for reminding me about this! My copy of the original is really and truly beat-up, worn from constant use (reference and leisure). I can't wait to check out what the authors have to say about all of the new titles added, as well as the updates done to the existing entries!
Count me as another who was miffed at the blurb included for Crest of the Stars, but what can you do? Small price to pay for what I found to be an otherwise fun, useful guide. It's paid for itself dozens of times over.
doink-chan
11-02-2006, 05:42 PM
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Yeah, a ton of the reviews in the first edition were overly negative and sassy. Not to mention many of them also spoiled the series' plot twists within the first two sentences.
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Also, many of the entries about obscure or lesser-known anime often had wrong information in them, or even wrong titles at times...
Njr Scrawl
11-02-2006, 06:20 PM
McCarthy & Clements are journalists not academic authors (though i've not read McCarthy's book on Miyazaki).
Having read Manga Mania & Manga Max for years, a (UK) fan mag both have edited & written for, I recognised some lines unchanged from those publications. Overall A.E. is written too subjectively IMO.
Never read about Crest. Lafiel is not so good in the first series, I agree. I hope the updated review recognises her character development & increasing maturity over the 3 Banner series (also that of Jinto.)
chloes_fork
11-02-2006, 06:39 PM
Personally I prefer an opinionated work to a dry recitation of facts. Much more lively that way, and it isn't like I'm required to agree with their assessments.
That said, I do agree that the first edition tipped toward the negative a bit too often (kind of like Charles Solomon). I respect being critical and demanding, but past a certain point you have to think that if they find so much anime so lacking, maybe they'd be happier writing about something else.
Tora-chan
11-03-2006, 07:38 AM
Loved the first edition and fully intend to get this new version.
I like it when they make subjective observations and criticisms on shows as it would be a pretty bland and dull tome without it. I would buy Newtype USA if I wanted that...
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Also, many of the entries about obscure or lesser-known anime often had wrong information in them, or even wrong titles at times...
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Or, for that matter, wrong spoilers (e.g. Urusei Yatsura--not particularly obscure)
mike.motaku
11-03-2006, 08:51 AM
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Itsuka said:
Did they manage to get over the attitude of giving nasty reviews of about every anime made after, oh, 1980 or so, apart from those by Miyazaki?
I remember being especially pissed off at their choice in the previous edition of ridiculing Crest of the Stars and suggesting Lafiel was a stupid space bimbo.
I wouldn't mind buying the next edition if their attitude has improved somewhat... So, as a test, can you look up what they have to say about Crest of the Stars in this edition?
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Well, their criticism seems to be directed more at Yasushi Nagoaka. They seem to feel his attempts to depict Lafiel as an "elfin space bimbo, forever bending over and jiggling" especially in Crest of the Stars "devalues much talk of Abh war crimes and conquests, as if Britney Spears had been cast as an SS officer.", and was done for the sole purpose of distracting viewers from the cut-rate animation and windy speechifying. At least, that is how they see it.
Other than that, I would suggest that people looking for negativity will find it anywhere. A cursory examination of their post-1980 anime articles produces quite a large number of glowing reviews mixed in with the usual among otaku complaints about lack of originality and the proliferation of cliches.
I'll probably pick this up if I run across it but, like most others it seems, I had certain problems with the first edition. Most of the negatives have been discussed but I have to mention the very strange frothing-at-the-mouth rant that passed as the review of OMG/AMG. I've never heard anyone sounding so affronted by a fictional cartoon character. It sounded like Belldandy had somehow burst into 3-D life to steal Helen McCarthy's boyfriend AND poison her cat. I'll read this and enjoy it for the same reasons I like many of the shows that M/C trash: It may not be the greatest thing ever but it IS entertaining.
Chip
Njr Scrawl
11-03-2006, 12:05 PM
YUA review is worse...I think we should send Strikeman round to sort them out /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
Good reviews on Gundam UC, Maison Ikkoku, KOR, & some other classics not licensed. In fact older series get better write-ups & more intelligent opinions, perhaps because the authors may have actually watched the shows rather than reading the box back descriptions or using 2nd party opinions.
McCarthy & Clements previous (early 90s) works were on OVAs & movies only (as that's all that used to be licensed before Eva). They were what got me interested in anime when first buying the genre & my VHS collection is based on waht they said were good or not.
This encyclopedia is first for anime TV though. I only wish it was also on DVD ROM & also had Japanese cast for each show with short performance appraisals, as movie review books have for actors, actresses (& voice actors in the case of Disney 'toons.)
BluWacky
11-03-2006, 12:11 PM
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I'll probably pick this up if I run across it but, like most others it seems, I had certain problems with the first edition. Most of the negatives have been discussed but I have to mention the very strange frothing-at-the-mouth rant that passed as the review of OMG/AMG. I've never heard anyone sounding so affronted by a fictional cartoon character. It sounded like Belldandy had somehow burst into 3-D life to steal Helen McCarthy's boyfriend AND poison her cat.
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You should meet more of my friends. McCarthy's opinion of Belldandy is mild compared to them /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
Tora-chan
11-03-2006, 12:32 PM
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YUAchip said:
I'll probably pick this up if I run across it but, like most others it seems, I had certain problems with the first edition. Most of the negatives have been discussed but I have to mention the very strange frothing-at-the-mouth rant that passed as the review of OMG/AMG. I've never heard anyone sounding so affronted by a fictional cartoon character. It sounded like Belldandy had somehow burst into 3-D life to steal Helen McCarthy's boyfriend AND poison her cat.
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You should meet more of my friends. McCarthy's opinion of Belldandy is mild compared to them /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
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I think I'd like your friends... /images/graemlins/devil.gif
Just had a quick flick through some of the highlighted series from this thread (Crest of the Stars, OMG + YUA). I still find their writing refreshing and nicely un-sycophantic. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
Njr Scrawl
11-03-2006, 03:03 PM
People, McCarthy included, who knock Belldandy don't understand what she (or OMG) is about.
mike.motaku
11-03-2006, 04:17 PM
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Wrath of the Njr said:
People, McCarthy included, who knock Belldandy don't understand what she (or OMG) is about.
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Everyone brings their own idiosyncratic mental biases to every "communication event". (yes, I did a seminar back in the day. Lucky me.) Which is why emoticons came to plague the interweb. And why sweat drops and throbby veins and bloody noses are used as visual cues in anime. 'Cause otherwise you might misconstrue the meaning of what I am trying to say to you.
One person's goddess is another's doormat. Crazy, I know. But it happens. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
Njr Scrawl
11-03-2006, 04:30 PM
Or I suppose you could say people only see what they want to see, or go on first impression more. /images/graemlins/wink.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Too many journalists pose as academics, & too many people believe they are. /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif
Isuzu Inugami
11-03-2006, 06:35 PM
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Skywise said:
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Itsuka said:
I remember being especially pissed off at their choice in the previous edition of ridiculing Crest of the Stars and suggesting Lafiel was a stupid space bimbo.
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Umm.. she *is* a stupid space bimbo /images/graemlins/tongue.gif.
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Point of order--Lafiel is an extremely intelligent space bimbo. /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif
ohtori_akio
11-03-2006, 11:30 PM
Could anyone give me the jist of what they say about Saint Seiya, Fancy Lala, Utena and Sailor Moon? Thank you /images/graemlins/happy.gif
Kellory
11-04-2006, 01:02 AM
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mike.motaku said:
One person's goddess is another's doormat. Crazy, I know. But it happens. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif
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You have to admit though, while depending on your point of view the OVA Belldandy could be seen as a doormat, the TV Belldandy most definitely is anything but. I'd be interested to see if their views on her changed between the OVA and TV series. Because in the TV series we do see why even Urd is afraid to really piss off Belldandy.
In any event, I think you are right in that how we see a character largely depends on our personal biases and personalities. It depends on who we are at the time, and how we are looking at things. Lafiel is a good example. If your simply looking at her as a character in a show, she comes across as a strong and focused young woman who is quite sure of herself. If you are looking at her critically, alone and isolated, then she comes across as aloof and naive as well as being essentially a bimbo. Its all based on one's perspective and context.
mike.motaku
11-04-2006, 01:25 PM
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Wrath of the Njr said:
Or I suppose you could say people only see what they want to see, or go on first impression more. /images/graemlins/wink.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Too many journalists pose as academics, & too many people believe they are. /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif
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What, they can't be both? /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif back at'cha.
Njr Scrawl
11-18-2006, 11:51 AM
The Encyclopedia is a mixed bag. Some entries are very good & detailed, while others seem to repeat negative/dismissive hearsay or are just very general.
Take the entry on Noir. General comparison with Gunsmith Cats & a comment on the women's search for their pasts, that's it. Obviously the authors didn't know or care for it.
Yet GiTS has detailed comment, both movies, SAC, 2nd Gig & even the forthcoming Solid State Society is mentioned.
No mention of My-Hime under any spelling I could find. I'll be checking more newer series when I've got some spare time.
Presentation of the book is better. Same screen caps but made bigger (showing jaggy edges). At least they are on the same page as the show they come from.
I like the added general topics & well known staff entries (saw Yohko Kanno's name). Needs some seiyuus as well... and a CD-ROM version!
KomoriKiri
11-18-2006, 06:39 PM
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Wrath of the Njr said:
No mention of My-Hime under any spelling I could find. I'll be checking more newer series when I've got some spare time.
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Page 438, My-Hime. Listed in the index as Mai-Hime for some reason, but it's there, and My-Otome Zwei is in the index as well.
Some of their title translations are a little different than I expected. "Mask of Glass" being a prime example. I was disappointed to not find a Glass Mask entry, and then I run across this one.
Have to agree that the book is uneven, though. I don't mind the snarkiness about shows, it's at least entertaining. However, there are too many factual errors for my taste.
Wraith
"You can present the material, but you can't make me care."
-- Calvin
Njr Scrawl
11-19-2006, 03:30 AM
Thanks, I'll look again.
I've found Hiatori Ryouko, an unlicensed title, comes under "Sunshine" from its translation to English.
chloes_fork
11-19-2006, 08:19 AM
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Wrath of the Njr said:
Take the entry on Noir. General comparison with Gunsmith Cats & a comment on the women's search for their pasts, that's it. Obviously the authors didn't know or care for it.
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I was disappointed in that entry myself, Noir being (obviously) one of my favorite shows. What I think happened, though, is they just didn't bother to update that entry from the first edition, where I believe the show was simply too new to get detailed treatment. For similar laziness, check out the entry on Berserk, which is still said to be unreleased in the US with licensing negotiations "incomplete at our deadline."
I still like the book overall, but it would be nice if they had done as thorough a job updating old entries as they did adding new ones.
DocWatson
02-21-2007, 09:40 AM
I just found this thread, and want to answer a few of the above comments and complaints since I was one of TAE 2nd's four beta readers.
Regarding the Beserk and Crest of the Stars entries: unfortunately, my rewrites of these were submitted after the book went to the publisher, and will not appear until the (prospective) third edition in 2011.
A full listing of cast and crew are on my want list as well, but depend in part on how many copies are sold, since including them would expand the book (and its price) considerably.
A spoiler warning is included in the Introduction, though it is buried in the last paragraph of "Additions and Aliterations". (This especially applies to any of the entries on which I worked (e.g., Lingeries and End of Summer). Beware, lovers of hentai...)
As for updating entries, I intend to bring this up myself. Hopefully next time we won't be so rushed, and the process will include a systematic review of existing entries. (I said "hopefully"...)
Lastly, (constructive) updates, corrections, commentary, and complaints can be sent to the E-mail address included at the end of the Publisher's Note, though I also am willing to field the same. I, personally, am especially interested in any missing titles from before, say, 2000, so that TAE 3rd will be complete. <EG>
pianocello
02-21-2007, 08:35 PM
I bought this a month ago and must say that even though I already have the 1st edition, this was money well-spent as this is great source of reference. I do find it odd that several hentai titles that were released in the past few years are not listed though. (I can't find Shitai wo Arau, Mikagura Tanteidan Detective Agency, Flutter of Birds 2 there for example). And while Haruhi Suzumiya is there, shows that were showing about the same time like Simoun, Strawberry Panic are missing. I'm still a little annoyed that they're so hard on the Saber Marionette series.
battle001
02-22-2007, 06:49 AM
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Wrath of the Njr said:
No mention of My-Hime under any spelling I could find. I'll be checking more newer series when I've got some spare time.
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Page 438, My-Hime. Listed in the index as Mai-Hime for some reason, -- Calvin
Mai-Hime is the original name for the show and is a pun of sorts <Mai is the main character after all, plus Mai means other things>
Bandi changed it because the pun would be lost in translation.<this is a guess on my part>
DocWatson
02-22-2007, 07:29 AM
(I can't find Shitai wo Arau, Mikagura Tanteidan Detective Agency, Flutter of Birds 2 there for example).
Not my fault! <G> They did have the necessary information (I sent it in in the summer of 2005), but I'll place a request for them to be included in TAE 3rd.
And while Haruhi Suzumiya is there, shows that were showing about the same time like Simoun, Strawberry Panic are missing.
The book went to the publisher (IIRC) on 31 March 2006 and both those missing shows began airing in April 2006; the inclusion of the Spring 2006 season was done at the last minute and should not be taken as representative. (It may have been the end of April, but some of the corrections I sent in in early April were missed.)
Njr Scrawl
02-22-2007, 12:30 PM
Some shows, even unlicensed ones (when the book was printed) are under translated names, rather than romaji.
"Kimi ga Nozuma Eien" for example is not under that, Kiminozo or Rumbling Hearts, but the (much better Eternity We Long For, The
"Hiatari Ryokou" is under Sunshine All Around (from memory so not accurate)
I'd like AE as a CD or DVD-ROM also. That way there would be room for seiyuu cast & staff as well, and of course cross-disc referencing would be a very useful feature for this reference work.
ohtori_akio
02-22-2007, 01:30 PM
I cant seem to find the entry for Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi on the encyclopedia... What name is it under?
KomoriKiri
02-22-2007, 06:59 PM
Mai-Hime is the original name for the show and is a pun of sorts <Mai is the main character after all, plus Mai means other things>
Bandi changed it because the pun would be lost in translation.<this is a guess on my part>
I understand that. My "for some reason" was referring to the fact that the actual entry has a different title than the index does.
Wraith
"They say such nice things about people at their funerals that it makes me sad to realize that I'm going to miss mine by just a few days."
-- Garrison Keillor
Fencedude
02-22-2007, 07:06 PM
Mai-Hime is the original name for the show and is a pun of sorts <Mai is the main character after all, plus Mai means other things>
Bandi changed it because the pun would be lost in translation.<this is a guess on my part>
I understand that. My "for some reason" was referring to the fact that the actual entry has a different title than the index does.
Wraith
"They say such nice things about people at their funerals that it makes me sad to realize that I'm going to miss mine by just a few days."
-- Garrison Keillor
*sigh*
EVERY TIME My~HiME has been written out by the Japanese they use "My" not "Mai".
Bandai DID NOT "change" the title, they used THE EXISTING ENGLISH TITLE FOR THE SHOW.
My~HiME site:
http://www.sunrise-inc.co.jp/my-hime/
My~ZHiME site:
http://www.my-zhime.net/
I'm getting really sick of this, they did not change the title. At all. Please stop claiming they do.
pianocello
02-22-2007, 09:17 PM
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No mention of My-Hime under any spelling I could find. I'll be checking more newer series when I've got some spare time.
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Page 438, My-Hime. Listed in the index as Mai-Hime for some reason, but it's there, and My-Otome Zwei is in the index as well.
There's some inaccurate info on My-Otome if I'm remembering correctly. The editors might want to look into that for the next edition.
DocWatson
02-23-2007, 03:08 AM
Some shows, even unlicensed ones (when the book was printed) are under translated names, rather than romaji.
"Kimi ga Nozuma Eien" for example is not under that, Kiminozo or Rumbling Hearts, but the (much better Eternity We Long For, The
"Hiatari Ryokou" is under Sunshine All Around (from memory so not accurate)
I'd like AE as a CD or DVD-ROM also. That way there would be room for seiyuu cast & staff as well, and of course cross-disc referencing would be a very useful feature for this reference work.
The policy is to translate the titles where it does not contradict the official English title, if any. Hiatari Ryokou! was transliterated as "Yo Atari Ryoko!" ("hi" apparently being an unusual rendering of the character in question), and is listed under "Sunny Boardinghouse". We discovered this mistake only in the last few days, and it is already on the list of corrections.
As for electronic media, no-one has come up with enough money to buy the rights yet; the authors and their publisher are well aware that the day that an electronic format is released, it will be all over the Internet in a matter of hours.
DocWatson
02-23-2007, 03:10 AM
I cant seem to find the entry for Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi on the encyclopedia... What name is it under?
It seems (according to the corrections file) that it was omitted, much to the embarassment and (self directed?) anger of the authors. :sd:
DocWatson
02-23-2007, 03:24 AM
I understand that. My "for some reason" was referring to the fact that the actual entry has a different title than the index does.
Actually, the index has both spellings (along with the other title variations listed in the entry's header)—Mai-HiME (listed after Maids in Dream) and My-Hime (after Mybic). In TAE punctuation (but not spaces) is ignored for the purpose of alphabetization.
DocWatson
02-23-2007, 03:26 AM
There's some inaccurate info on My-Otome if I'm remembering correctly. The editors might want to look into that for the next edition.
Can you be specific? :sd: (I have yet to see the series, so I can not judge.)
ohtori_akio
02-23-2007, 05:16 AM
I cant seem to find the entry for Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi on the encyclopedia... What name is it under?
It seems (according to the corrections file) that it was omitted, much to the embarassment and (self directed?) anger of the authors. :sd:
That is rather disappointing... Glad the problem will be addressed! I also wonder what the would have been said about the show...
Shsway
02-23-2007, 05:11 PM
I cant seem to find the entry for Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi on the encyclopedia... What name is it under?
It seems (according to the corrections file) that it was omitted, much to the embarassment and (self directed?) anger of the authors. :sd:
No, I'm sure it's in there...I'll give my copy a look-see a little bit later.
Edit: It might have been in the older edition, at least?
Shsway
02-23-2007, 06:13 PM
Darn, my edit was more correct - I was thinking of the 1st edition, where the show is listed as "Abeno Bridge Magical Mall" (12+ eps as of the writing):
Two average Japanese kids, Satoshi and Arumi, discover that the architects of their local shopping district were sorcerors so the entire area is crawling with ghosts and otherwordly spirits. This comedy was designed as Gainax's TV follow-up to their successful video FLCL.
Edit: Can't seem to find it by any sort of detail cross-referencing in the new book. I suppose I should have just taken the word of the Doc, seeing as how he was one of the beta-readers. :sd: This memory of mine, sometimes...
Still, I was more than satisfied with my purchase. I actually paid 12 dollars less than the first time, but even if I'd spent the same amount, I would still be as I am with this new edition. It's interesting to see where some of the updates have occurred. The Utena section, for example, was just a bit little longer. The overall opinion on Trigun seems to have changed to something more positive (not that there was anything blatantly negative or whatever about the older entry).
The new thematic entries are interesting enough - I can see where they'll might create some useful links between different shows. I'll probably get through most of them when I sit down to do a more complete, in-depth examination of potential shows to get into.
pianocello
02-23-2007, 11:50 PM
There's some inaccurate info on My-Otome if I'm remembering correctly. The editors might want to look into that for the next edition.
Can you be specific? :sd: (I have yet to see the series, so I can not judge.)
Maybe it's just the wording of it but the entry seems to be implying that the Mai Otome OAVs are an alternate universe version of the Mai Otome TV series. As far as I understand, the OAVs are a continuation of the TV series. The whole Mai Otome series though is an alternate universe version of My:Hime.
Fencedude
02-24-2007, 04:29 AM
As far as I understand, the OAVs are a continuation of the TV series.
Correct. Zwei is a direct sequel to Otome.
The whole Mai Otome series though is an alternate universe version of My:Hime.
...now that is somewhat more debatable. But this is hardly the time and the place for that debate.
pianocello
02-24-2007, 10:46 PM
[quote]The whole Mai Otome series though is an alternate universe version of My:Hime.
...now that is somewhat more debatable. But this is hardly the time and the place for that debate.
For all we know, the last episode of Zwei might reveal that the whole Otome series was either a sequel to Hime or a play or a dream of one of the characters in Hime.
pianocello
02-24-2007, 10:49 PM
A few more things to add:
Lamune , a 2005 anime is missing.
Also I find it odd that Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha , a 2004 anime which already is going on to its 3rd season (and had already finished 1 2nd season at the time of publication) does not have its own entry and is only marked as a footnote in an entry of another anime.
Fencedude
02-24-2007, 11:49 PM
Hell, the later episodes of Otome throw it in our faces.
DocWatson
02-27-2007, 11:12 AM
I cant seem to find the entry for Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi on the encyclopedia... What name is it under?
It seems (according to the corrections file) that it was omitted, much to the embarassment and (self directed?) anger of the authors. :sd:
That is rather disappointing... Glad the problem will be addressed! I also wonder what the would have been said about the show...
I feel obligated to point out that it will likely be addressed—the publication of the third edition is not, at this time, assured. However, if it is published, I'm sure that Abenobashi will have priority.
DocWatson
02-27-2007, 12:11 PM
The Utena section, for example, was just a bit little longer.
I just compared them, and the entries are exactly the same, down to stating that the movie is the conclusion of the television series. ^_^;
Oh, and that the movie has a running time of 75 minutes, instead of 85 (1:25:04—I just checked).
The overall opinion on Trigun seems to have changed to something more positive (not that there was anything blatantly negative or whatever about the older entry).
Actually, the only changes were to delete the sentence starting with "Later episodes" (the third-to-last one), and to change "and keep him from gaining any support" to "by provoking him into murder" (at the end of the penultimate sentence). ^_^; (I think both changes were mine.)
The new thematic entries are interesting enough - I can see where they'll might create some useful links between different shows. I'll probably get through most of them when I sit down to do a more complete, in-depth examination of potential shows to get into.
I'd also like to point out the biographical entries. ^_^
DocWatson
02-27-2007, 12:34 PM
A few more things to add:
Lamune , a 2005 anime is missing.
Reported.
Also I find it odd that Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha , a 2004 anime which already is going on to its 3rd season (and had already finished 1 2nd season at the time of publication) does not have its own entry and is only marked as a footnote in an entry of another anime.
As do I. We've been discussing this, since a friend of mine pointed it out last month. I'm voting to have it added in full, either as its own entry, or as an adjunct.
Fencedude
02-27-2007, 04:28 PM
Also I find it odd that Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha , a 2004 anime which already is going on to its 3rd season (and had already finished 1 2nd season at the time of publication) does not have its own entry and is only marked as a footnote in an entry of another anime.
As do I. We've been discussing this, since a friend of mine pointed it out last month. I'm voting to have it added in full, either as its own entry, or as an adjunct.
I don't have the encyclopedia, but I'm assuming right now its just a footnote on the Triangle Hearts Entry?
I'd advise making Nanoha the full entry and Triangle Hearts a footnote to it, because, to be quite honest, nobody, anywhere gives two shits about Triangle Hearts anymore.
DocWatson
02-28-2007, 02:14 PM
I don't have the encyclopedia, but I'm assuming right now its just a footnote on the Triangle Hearts Entry?
I'd advise making Nanoha the full entry and Triangle Hearts a footnote to it, because, to be quite honest, nobody, anywhere gives two shits about Triangle Hearts anymore.
Correct. However, if we did that, then there would be a lot of new footnotes (e.g., how many series from the 1970s do you care about?).
Fencedude
02-28-2007, 04:21 PM
Correct. However, if we did that, then there would be a lot of new footnotes (e.g., how many series from the 1970s do you care about?).
Not many, but considering that Triangle Hearts is a rather crappy 4 episode OVA, and Nanoha is now 3 series totally 52 episodes, which do you think deserves a full entry?
pianocello
02-28-2007, 09:14 PM
Correct. However, if we did that, then there would be a lot of new footnotes (e.g., how many series from the 1970s do you care about?).
Not many, but considering that Triangle Hearts is a rather crappy 4 episode OVA, and Nanoha is now 3 series totally 52 episodes, which do you think deserves a full entry?
Then just do a full entry for both......
DocWatson
08-07-2007, 05:23 AM
I continue to submit updates and corrections. Recent highlights of these include:
• The discovery that we have no entry for Pierrot's Magical Fairy Persia :sd: :sd: :sd: —this will be fixed!
• Reworking of the follow entries (mostly for accuracy and detail):
•• Bible Black Only (in the Bible Black entry—I have the rest of it on my list, including adding the edits mentioned in these forums);
•• Catnapped!;
•• Hand Maid Mai (in the Hand Maid May entry);
•• Idol Fighter Su-chi-pai;
•• Piano;
•• Visionary (AKA "Vixens");
• The addition of:
•• Medical Humiliation;
•• Sexy Sailor Soldiers;
•• Snow Night Stories;
along with numerous tweaks, especially of the "episodes" line of the header (formats and running times; e.g., "25 mins. x 26 eps. (TV)"). I'm current working my way through Chrono Crusade.
To the general audience: Is there anything else that you has noticed that needs fixing?
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