Battle of the Testorossa's (a poll)

[vtr9kvictor]

Who would win in a fight between Full Metal Panic's Teletha "Tessa" Tesstorosa and Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha's Fate Testorosa? Both girls may use any resources at their disposal, but cuteness is NOT a factor. (That is for a later discussion).

[Funkatron]

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vtr9kvictor said:
Who would win in a fight between Full Metal Panic's Teletha "Tessa" Tesstorosa and Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha's Fate Testorosa? Both girls may use any resources at their disposal, but cuteness is NOT a factor. (That is for a later discussion).

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All Tessa has is mad leadership and Whispered smartness skills while Fate has her ubre magic skills. Though Tessa does have a platoon of Arm Slaves on herside, includng the Arbelest. Freaky Science vs. ubre magic.

[Nork22]

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All Tessa has is mad leadership and Whispered smartness skills while Fate has her ubre magic skills. Though Tessa does have a platoon of Arm Slaves on herside, includng the Arbelest. Freaky Science vs. ubre magic.

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Lets see, Fate having magical firepower strong enough to destory a city when she was 9, I wonder how much more powerful she has gotten now that she's 15. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

Tessa... well, commanding a submarine with Black Technology with some Arm Slaves, and Arbelest, doesn't sound that exciting.

[houkoholic]

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vtr9kvictor said:
Who would win in a fight between Full Metal Panic's Teletha "Tessa" Tesstorosa and Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha's Fate Testorosa? Both girls may use any resources at their disposal, but cuteness is NOT a factor. (That is for a later discussion).

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All Tessa has is mad leadership and Whispered smartness skills while Fate has her ubre magic skills. Though Tessa does have a platoon of Arm Slaves on herside, includng the Arbelest. Freaky Science vs. ubre magic.

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If Tessa gets her platoon and Arbelest (which also means Sousuke has to be on it) then it's only "fair" that Fate gets "support" from Nanoha as well. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Funkatron]

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houkoholic said:
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Funkatron said:
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vtr9kvictor said:
Who would win in a fight between Full Metal Panic's Teletha "Tessa" Tesstorosa and Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha's Fate Testorosa? Both girls may use any resources at their disposal, but cuteness is NOT a factor. (That is for a later discussion).

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All Tessa has is mad leadership and Whispered smartness skills while Fate has her ubre magic skills. Though Tessa does have a platoon of Arm Slaves on herside, includng the Arbelest. Freaky Science vs. ubre magic.

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If Tessa gets her platoon and Arbelest (which also means Sousuke has to be on it) then it's only "fair" that Fate gets "support" from Nanoha as well. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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And if Fate didn't make the fight one sided, adding Hayate and Reinforce sure would. Man, even with the Lambda Driver, Sousuke is toast :p

hmm..though I wonder if even magic could stop the badassness of Kanami Chidori

[Rhodes]

a poll without a poll...

Fate wins hands down in any aspect of this fight.

1 on 1, Fate will own Tessa.

If you allow support... not all of Mithril and their resources can stop Fate and company... sides they can call in the Space Time Management crew too.

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Funkatron said:

All Tessa has is mad leadership and Whispered smartness skills while Fate has her ubre magic skills. Though Tessa does have a platoon of Arm Slaves on herside, includng the Arbelest. Freaky Science vs. ubre magic.

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Fate has science on her side. Remember, the Nanohaverse magic is very technological in nature.

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vtr9kvictor said:
Who would win in a fight between Full Metal Panic's Teletha "Tessa" Tesstorosa and Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha's Fate Testorosa? Both girls may use any resources at their disposal, but cuteness is NOT a factor. (That is for a later discussion).

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a poll thread with no actual poll.

FAIL!

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It's not quite fair really... Strong as the Tuatha De Danaan is, it's still an earthly creation, Whispered technology or not. Fate has magic, and utterly devastating magic at that. She's one of the most powerful mages the Bureau has ever come across/faced, and she's only, what, 9? 10? She has so much room for future improvement. A full power blast from her would probably incinerate the De Danaan.

The Lambda Driver might get invoked, but I don't know that we can consider it effective against magic. And I can't remember, can Tessa invoke it herself? Or does she just serve as the key to the technology? They certainly never show her using it, and besides, Tessa is more about leading others with bravery and the utmost competence, not about going toe to toe with

But it's not any fault of Tessa really... put any (non-supernatural) being you want up against Fate and/or Nanoha, and all you'll have is a very dead (or wishing they were) challenger a few minutes later. Especially as Fate and Nanoha refine their skills and mature. Fate and Nanoha are still the two most badass non-godlike characters in anime, in my opinion.

[vtr9kvictor]

Well I guess I have to admit my suckitude. I could not figure out how to include an ACTUAL poll, so I had to use this format; which I have dubbed "a virtual poll"!!! Is it not glorious! It harkens unto things like the "interweb" and "massive multiperson interline gaming" and even "futronic technocracies"!! It is Ahead of Its Time!

[Isuzu Inugami]

Fate's glaive could probably carve up the Tuatha De Danaan quite nastily (Whispered or not, FMP tech doesn't have any sort of energy shielding technology as far as I recall)... but if Tessa took the fight deep underwater, Fate might have a harder time of it. Also, a cloaked Arms Slave could give Fate a nasty surprise. Tessa is more tactical in her thinking, while Fate (and Nanoha) tend to favor brute force (well, they're only nine so it's no big surprise), giving Tessa an edge, if she can exploit it.

Hmm... I started thinking "Fate, duh!" but now I think Tessa would have a pretty good shot at winning.

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Or Fate could just have her adopted mom nuke the Tuatha de Denan from orbit...

[Ty]

Fate would clobber the FMP team, and if she was struggling I'm sure Nanoha wouldn't hesitate to step in and throw a few Starlight Breakers their way. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[Isuzu Inugami]

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Or Fate could just have her adopted mom nuke the Tuatha de Denan from orbit...

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"It's the only way to be sure."

Do Time-Space Bureau patrol ships have orbit-to-ground weaponry? They seem to prefer to send down mages to do the dirty work in person. Also, isn't Fate's mom going to have questions about what the heck is going on down there if Fate calls her up with a request like that? Also also, how deep can the T d'D dive, and would half a mile of water shield it from TSB orbital strikes? Also also also, what the heck type of interdimensional incident are you promoting here? This is on the brink of spiraling completely out of control!

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Or Fate could just have her adopted mom nuke the Tuatha de Denan from orbit...

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"It's the only way to be sure."

Do Time-Space Bureau patrol ships have orbit-to-ground weaponry? They seem to prefer to send down mages to do the dirty work in person. Also, isn't Fate's mom going to have questions about what the heck is going on down there if Fate calls her up with a request like that? Also also, how deep can the T d'D dive, and would half a mile of water shield it from TSB orbital strikes? Also also also, what the heck type of interdimensional incident are you promoting here? This is on the brink of spiraling completely out of control!

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The backup plan for dealing with the Berserk Defense Program at the end of A's was to have the Asura use the Arc~en~Ciel on it from orbit.

So yes, the TSAB ships do have at least one form of Orbit to Surface weaponry. And considering how the Arc~en~Ciel seems to work, given proper targeting info, I see no reason why It wouldn't be able to hit something underwater.

Additionally, both Nanoha and Fate could eat Arm Slaves for breakfast. The Arbalest might give them some trouble, but it hasn't demonstrated the ability to do anything that Nanoha and Fate can't also do.

[Mateo_home]

The winner would be a ferrari tesstarosa (http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/ferrari/testarossa_1.jpg) which would run over both girls. Driven by none other than Yukari-sensei. With Chidori and Nanoha in the backseat. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Shimauma said:
Do Time-Space Bureau patrol ships have orbit-to-ground weaponry?

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They mention near the end of A's that one potential <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'> solution to the Book of Darkness problem was to use the Arc en Ciel to destroy it, and mention that it would also blow away Nanoha's entire town... and far far more besides. So yes, it can definitely attack the ground</span>

[Isuzu Inugami]

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The backup plan for dealing with the Berserk Defense Program at the end of A's was to have the Asura use the Arc~en~Ciel on it from orbit.

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Oh, yeah, that. sigh. Okay, Tessa's toast, but I still think she'd at least be able to keep it interesting for a while.

[Tomcat]

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Oh, yeah, that. sigh. Okay, Tessa's toast, but I still think she'd at least be able to keep it interesting for a while.

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The real role of effective leadership (and victory) is to convince your opponent not to fight. Winning the battle doesn't win the war.

In this, I would have to say that Tessa would be more equipped mentally to deal with a 9 year old girl. I know nothing about Fate, or her powers, but someone does not become the captain of a submarine without having shown a great amount of tactical knowledge. My vote is that Tessa would win the war without there even having been a battle.

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Oh, yeah, that. sigh. Okay, Tessa's toast, but I still think she'd at least be able to keep it interesting for a while.

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The real role of effective leadership (and victory) is to convince your opponent not to fight. Winning the battle doesn't win the war.

In this, I would have to say that Tessa would be more equipped mentally to deal with a 9 year old girl. I know nothing about Fate, or her powers, but someone does not become the captain of a submarine without having shown a great amount of tactical knowledge. My vote is that Tessa would win the war without there even having been a battle.

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*cough*

The last time someone tried to convince Fate not to fight, it took a Starlight Breaker (http://www.fencedude.com/Images4/Starlight_Breaker.jpg) to the face to get her to see reason.

Fate's the blonde Twin Tail with the OH SHIT look on her face.

Edit: Oh, and if by some chance Tessa DID win...well, then she'd have to deal with Nanoha. She doesn't want to have to deal with Nanoha...

[houkoholic]

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Tomcat said:
The real role of effective leadership (and victory) is to convince your opponent not to fight. Winning the battle doesn't win the war.

In this, I would have to say that Tessa would be more equipped mentally to deal with a 9 year old girl. I know nothing about Fate, or her powers, but someone does not become the captain of a submarine without having shown a great amount of tactical knowledge. My vote is that Tessa would win the war without there even having been a battle.

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You have no idea (but I guess you already said so in your post).
In the Nanoha series, 100% of the time involves the character trying to talk it out first but the talk always breaks down into who has the bigger blast in the end, heck the draw of Nanoha is essentially "I don't want to fight you, but you're forcing me to beat the s**t out of you because you won't listen to me". Both Nanoha and Fate is physically AND mentally more capable than Tessa could even hope to be, 9 year old or not.

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The winner would be a ferrari tesstarosa (http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/ferrari/testarossa_1.jpg) which would run over both girls. Driven by none other than Yukari-sensei. With Chidori and Nanoha in the backseat. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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I'm fairly certain Nanoha would object mightily to someone trying to run over her WAIFU.

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Tomcat said:
In this, I would have to say that Tessa would be more equipped mentally to deal with a 9 year old girl. I know nothing about Fate, or her powers, but someone does not become the captain of a submarine without having shown a great amount of tactical knowledge. My vote is that Tessa would win the war without there even having been a battle.

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Yeah, I'd say you definitely don't know anything about Fate /images/graemlins/sweat000.gif She may be "9" but she's absolutely got the soul fo a warrior. You can't win against Fate by hoping to distract her with nice words and candy. You'll be earing a photon lancer before you even finish the sentence.

[Isuzu Inugami]

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In this, I would have to say that Tessa would be more equipped mentally to deal with a 9 year old girl. I know nothing about Fate, or her powers, but someone does not become the captain of a submarine without having shown a great amount of tactical knowledge. My vote is that Tessa would win the war without there even having been a battle.


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(Although she designed the thing, somehow I find 16 year old Tessa being given command of the Tuatha De Danaan harder to swallow than Nanoha and Fate being magical girls. Go figure.)

But anyway, yeah, that's why I give Tessa a tactical advantage. And talking might actually work with Nanoha, who always makes the effort. It usually goes like this, but at least she makes the effort:

Hapless Antogonist: "Get out of my way!"
Nanoha: "Can't we talk?"
Hapless Antagonist: "No! Get out of--"
Nanoha: "STARLIGHT BREAKER!"
Hapless Antagonist: "What the- ACK!!"

...but Fate tends to assume she knows everything she needs to know, so there's no need to talk. For Tessa to defeat Fate, well, she'd have to do something to neutralize Nanoha and hold her hostage, which doesn't seem her style.

[Ingraman]

Who would win in a fight between Full Metal Panic's Teletha "Tessa" Tesstorosa and Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha's Fate Testorosa? Both girls may use any resources at their disposal, but cuteness is NOT a factor. (That is for a later discussion).

Oh... I thought that this was going to be a sibling fight, with or without Mithril and Amalgam.