MB licenses Princess Princess

[jsirabella]

Well I guess than you can get Princess Princess which is some title about Boys dressing as Girls in a School...It is not the Live Action but the anime series...I have the contract somewhere here when I went to Japan they gave me the final draft...not sure when it is coming out probably spring 2007??

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[itsuka]

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John Sirabella said:
Well I guess than you can get Princess Prince which is some title about Boys dressing as Girls in a School...It is not the Live Action but the anime series...I have the contract somewhere here when I went to Japan they gave me the final draft...not sure when it is coming out probably spring 2007??

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Seems we're talking about the same series. I liked the anime better than the life action anyway. That would be so great to have! I had a feeling it would fit MB. It's a nice upbeat series, and I sure can use something funny in between all that doom and gloom I usually buy.

Eh... you might want to announce it a bit louder? So far it's still listed as unlicensed everywhere I look.

[The Pirate Queen]

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John Sirabella said:
Well I guess than you can get Princess Prince which is some title about Boys dressing as Girls in a School...It is not the Live Action but the anime series...I have the contract somewhere here when I went to Japan they gave me the final draft...not sure when it is coming out probably spring 2007??

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Wait, what!?! When did this get picked up?

[Vicserr]

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Dani said:
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John Sirabella said:
Well I guess than you can get Princess Prince which is some title about Boys dressing as Girls in a School...It is not the Live Action but the anime series...I have the contract somewhere here when I went to Japan they gave me the final draft...not sure when it is coming out probably spring 2007??

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Wait, what!?! When did this get picked up?

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You know that MB doesn't do big announcements /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

but they sure keep bringing out the anime /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[The Pirate Queen]

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Vicserr said:
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Dani said:
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John Sirabella said:
Well I guess than you can get Princess Prince which is some title about Boys dressing as Girls in a School...It is not the Live Action but the anime series...I have the contract somewhere here when I went to Japan they gave me the final draft...not sure when it is coming out probably spring 2007??

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Wait, what!?! When did this get picked up?

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You know that MB doesn't do big announcements /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

but they sure keep bringing out the anime /images/graemlins/happy.gif

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Yea, I liked the "oh yea, you'll like this title that NOBODY KNOWS WE HAVE" slipped in there. Good times. /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

[quenelf]

Just to clarify if anyone else was confused (because I spent 5 minutes looking up the wrong thing :>), the title as in subject line - Princess Princess - is definitely right. Not what it says in the message - Princess Prince - which is a fantasy shoujo manga with no anime.

Nor is this the same as 'otome wa onee-sama/boku ni koishiteru' which is also some title about a boy dressing as a girl in a school but is different. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

http://www.pri-pri.jp/

--quen

[jsirabella]

Yeah that is the one...

[TheGreenMan]

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quen said:
Just to clarify if anyone else was confused (because I spent 5 minutes looking up the wrong thing :>), the title as in subject line - Princess Princess - is definitely right. Not what it says in the message - Princess Prince - which is a fantasy shoujo manga with no anime.

Nor is this the same as 'otome wa onee-sama/boku ni koishiteru' which is also some title about a boy dressing as a girl in a school but is different. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

http://www.pri-pri.jp/

--quen

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OMG! Lacus Clyne is in this show? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[itsuka]

I'm still in shock that a title I mention in passing as maybe a nice title to fit the MB portfolio gets a confirmation of almost being licensed in return. Maybe I should try that more often... /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif

[Vicserr]

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quen said:
Just to clarify if anyone else was confused (because I spent 5 minutes looking up the wrong thing :>), the title as in subject line - Princess Princess - is definitely right. Not what it says in the message - Princess Prince - which is a fantasy shoujo manga with no anime.

Nor is this the same as 'otome wa onee-sama/boku ni koishiteru' which is also some title about a boy dressing as a girl in a school but is different. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

http://www.pri-pri.jp/

--quen

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I was originally confusing it with Princess Knight (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=452), but that's way Old Skool...

[Skywise]

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Itsuka said:
I'm still in shock that a title I mention in passing as maybe a nice title to fit the MB portfolio gets a confirmation of almost being licensed in return. Maybe I should try that more often... /images/graemlins/stunned0.gif

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Hmm.. if that works, I'd suggest Strawberry Panic and La Corda D'oro :D. Not that I expect it'll do anything, but it was worth a shot.

[LexiJ]

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Skywise said:
Hmm.. if that works, I'd suggest Strawberry Panic and La Corda D'oro :D. Not that I expect it'll do anything, but it was worth a shot.

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I'm actually expecting Strawberry Panic at this point. With both the manga and novels about to be released, and with yuri seeming to be the latest trend (we got paddles!), the only thing I could see keeping it from being licensed is a very high price tag. Though I'd much rather have Maria-sama...

[Dagger]

Heh. MB seems to have a lock on the fujoshi market. /images/graemlins/wink.gif Well, I hope these titles are doing well for you guys (and I guess it's kind of safe to assume that they are, since you keep licensing more of 'em).

Of course I would be much more excited about, say, a second season of Loveless... but one can't have everything.

[Skywise]

Maria-sama = shoujo (not yuri, even though some fanboys may claim it does/have dreams about it). Strawberry = shoujo-ai (and does have real yuri, unlike Mariamite).

I'd rather have SP to tell the truth, not so much because of the yuri content, but because I enjoyed it a lot more. Mariamite was just plain boring and I couldn't get into it. SP was what Mariamite should have been in the first place IMO, but it seems to have gotten overlooked by a lot of fans, especially with it being a similar show in setting. I had to practically browbeat a friend of mine into watching it, who like me wasn't that fond of mariamite to begin with. When he finally did a while after I'd given up, he yelled at me for not convincing him to watch it earlier /images/graemlins/happy.gif.

[LexiJ]

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Maria-sama = shoujo (not yuri, even though some fanboys may claim it does/have dreams about it).

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Actually, Marimite does have yuri in it. Some of the girls are just subtext, some aren't, with Sei being the most obvious. Saying Marimite doesn't have yuri is like saying Sailor Moon didn't have yuri because Haruka and Michiru didn't kiss on screen.

I liked Marimite's pace and total lack of fanservice, and the characters were much more appealing to me than what I found in SP. SP is an amusement to me, a guilty pleasure with no redeeming qualities and a lot of characters I just don't like that much. I like both shows, though, and would love to have both licensed, but I'll go back to Marimite a lot more.

[sakurajade]

Yays /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif! I totally be picking this up when it comes out.

[golthin]

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quen said:
Just to clarify if anyone else was confused (because I spent 5 minutes looking up the wrong thing :>), the title as in subject line - Princess Princess - is definitely right. Not what it says in the message - Princess Prince - which is a fantasy shoujo manga with no anime.

Nor is this the same as 'otome wa onee-sama/boku ni koishiteru' which is also some title about a boy dressing as a girl in a school but is different. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

http://www.pri-pri.jp/

--quen

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OMG! Lacus Clyne is in this show? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Each set of people in the image in the website is the same person. They show the guy in drag opposite to the male guy.
So Locus Clyne he is not /images/graemlins/happy.gif

[something]

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Skywise said:
I'd rather have SP to tell the truth, not so much because of the yuri content, but because I enjoyed it a lot more. Mariamite was just plain boring and I couldn't get into it. SP was what Mariamite should have been in the first place IMO, but it seems to have gotten overlooked by a lot of fans, especially with it being a similar show in setting.

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I still need to get to finishing the last 4 or 5 eps of Strawberry Panic, but it fulfills a different need for me than MariMite did. Sure, I tend to describe SP as "Marimite without inhibitions", but in the end, they mean different things to me. I liked both though. Marimite was far superior to me in terms of character development and fleshing situations out in genuine-feeling ways, but there's much to be said for SP's raw yuri/shoujo-ai satisfaction factor. I'd definitely have both on my to buy list if they got licensed. SP would probably be the better choice to license for Media Blasters though.

Still, I really need to finish SP. It sort of lost a bit of its magic later on (hence why I went from "NEED NEXT EP!" to "I'll get to it eventually", and why I still haven't finished), but it's a good show. And I love Tamao~

[something]

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LexiJ said:
Actually, Marimite does have yuri in it. Some of the girls are just subtext, some aren't, with Sei being the most obvious. Saying Marimite doesn't have yuri is like saying Sailor Moon didn't have yuri because Haruka and Michiru didn't kiss on screen.

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I think he's talking about making it explicit. Strawberry Panic doesn't exactly leave much to the imagination in many scenes (which isnt a bad thing), while MariMite left 99.9999999999% of everything purely to the imagination (again, also not necessarily a bad thing, it made fanartists that much more eager =D)

[Skywise]

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disarm said:
Still, I really need to finish SP. It sort of lost a bit of its magic later on (hence why I went from "NEED NEXT EP!" to "I'll get to it eventually", and why I still haven't finished), but it's a good show. And I love Tamao~

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I really recommend you finish it (marathon the last bit or something). While I do agree that it lost some of its pace a bit before ep 20 or so, the way they wrap it up and finish it made it all the better for it. It's just one of those shows where there's a slight lull before the end.

[Skywise]

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I think he's talking about making it explicit. Strawberry Panic doesn't exactly leave much to the imagination in many scenes (which isnt a bad thing), while MariMite left 99.9999999999% of everything purely to the imagination (again, also not necessarily a bad thing, it made fanartists that much more eager =D)

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Yes, but I thought it was a bad thing because people I talked to at the time were so much into a yuri aspect of the show that for all intents and purposes didn't exist. It's shoujo, not shoujo-ai, and the soeur relationships were pretty much just platonic, with a smattering of overadmiration here and there. It's targeted at girls, not horny teenage boys, and so becomes an example of the Boy who cried Yuri. Fanartists took this to another level, pretty much helping to enforce that incorrect image. To them it was a show filled with innuendo, while to me it was just a slow and boring shoujo anime.

[Fencedude]

Anyone who says Mari-mite isn't Shoujo-ai is crazy.

On the other hand, it most definitely IS NOT Yuri.

But that doesn't make Sei NOT a raging lesbian, or Shimako and Noriko not totally gay for each other.

...but thats a White Rose thing.

[something]

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Skywise said:
It's shoujo, not shoujo-ai, and the soeur relationships were pretty much just platonic, with a smattering of overadmiration here and there. It's targeted at girls, not horny teenage boys, and so becomes an example of the Boy who cried Yuri.

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Ehh... while I certainly agree fandom took it well above and beyond (with humorous and sexy results for the most part, in my eyes), I really can't agree at all that there's nothing to it. Whether or not the original novels had a certain gender for the fanbase (haven't read a page, couldn't say), I'd be utterly shocked at the shortsightedness of the anime creators if they didn't plan to become a huge hit with the fanboys (in addition to any other fanbases). I can't easily believe that anyone making anime in Japan would be that naive nowadays. I mean, maybe you've read reviews or something where they did express genuine shock, but... could they really be that dumb?

[Pelianth]

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John Sirabella said:
Well I guess than you can get Princess Princess which is some title about Boys dressing as Girls in a School...It is not the Live Action but the anime series...I have the contract somewhere here when I went to Japan they gave me the final draft...not sure when it is coming out probably spring 2007??

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Hah. This suprises me not at all. Sadly, I saw about 5 minutes of the anime version before deciding it was too painful too watch. Pretty art though.

Live-action version is HYSTERICAL. Would buy in a heartbeat.

[Skywise]

I wouldn't go so far as to say there's nothing to it (as you note they'd be foolish not to take advantage of it), but more that the way people seem to associate mariamite with yuri is nowhere close to what the show is all about. Someone used Sailor Moon in an earlier example, and I think it's a good paralell because SM is pretty much pure shoujo. Haruka and Michiru's relationship isn't the focus of the show. Most of the yuri in mariamite is all in the fanboys' heads and doesn't have a real counterpart in the show itself. You could say that yuri in it (what little there is) is just way overhyped, and it's not really something I'd use as an example when talking about shows with yuri in them, precisely for that reason. In a way it's like saying that Saiyuki is yaoi/BL, if you want a different parallel. People extrapolate and make up their own ideas about the characters' relationships.

To bring this back on topic - if you like watching shoujo, watch mariamite. If you like yuri, watch Strawberry Panic.

[kusanagi-sama]

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quen said:
Just to clarify if anyone else was confused (because I spent 5 minutes looking up the wrong thing :>), the title as in subject line - Princess Princess - is definitely right. Not what it says in the message - Princess Prince - which is a fantasy shoujo manga with no anime.

Nor is this the same as 'otome wa onee-sama/boku ni koishiteru' which is also some title about a boy dressing as a girl in a school but is different. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

http://www.pri-pri.jp/

--quen

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I was originally confusing it with Princess Knight (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=452), but that's way Old Skool...

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Will this also help: Princess Princess TV (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6467) on ANN

[Vicserr]

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Vicserr said:
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quen said:
Just to clarify if anyone else was confused (because I spent 5 minutes looking up the wrong thing :>), the title as in subject line - Princess Princess - is definitely right. Not what it says in the message - Princess Prince - which is a fantasy shoujo manga with no anime.

Nor is this the same as 'otome wa onee-sama/boku ni koishiteru' which is also some title about a boy dressing as a girl in a school but is different. /images/graemlins/happy.gif

http://www.pri-pri.jp/

--quen

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I was originally confusing it with Princess Knight (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=452), but that's way Old Skool...

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Will this also help: Princess Princess TV (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6467) on ANN

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the confusion was because in error John called it Princess Prince in the 1st place... /images/graemlins/stunned1.gif

[Skywise]

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Vicserr said:
the confusion was because in error John called it Princess Prince in the 1st place... /images/graemlins/stunned1.gif

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I actually thought Princess Princes would have been a fitting name for it. It would be written the same way in kana, so I'm thinking that that's actually what the Japanese were going for when they first made it (and that they subsequently mispelled it when they romanized it).

[Dagger]

I'd agree, except that there's a short gag piece on the inside of each manga volume called "Prince Prince," so I think Princess Princess was probably deliberate. Prince Prince uses the exact opposite premise--three girls who have to become "princes" at an all-girl school. I wish they'd make it into a full series of its own, haha.

[dunno001]

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quen said:
http://www.pri-pri.jp/

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Sold! Guys that hot, and well... I don't know what it is with me and cross-dressing series, but I always love them...

[Thanatos]

I just hope both you and your licensor have signed the contract. It would be horrible if they snatched it away due to premature announcing.

[itsuka]

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quen said:
http://www.pri-pri.jp/

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Sold! Guys that hot, and well... I don't know what it is with me and cross-dressing series, but I always love them...

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I'm normally not much into crossdressing, but somehow the characters proved irresistible. And the most /images/graemlins/noseblee.gif ED animation I've seen in years (too bad the anime itself was more subdued in that regard).

[musouka]

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Fencedude said:
Anyone who says Mari-mite isn't Shoujo-ai is crazy.

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It isn't shoujo-ai. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif Pripri isn't shounen-ai either. Yes, Marimite does have a lesbian and some damn strong undertones, but if that was all it took then half the stuff in Shounen Jump would be considered shounen-ai.

[Dagger]

I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure that SJ is a fair comparison. The relationships--platonic or romantic--are the main focus of Marimite, whereas the relationships in SJ series are invariably secondary to the plot or fighting or whatever else.

[musouka]

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Dagger said:
I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure that SJ is a fair comparison. The relationships--platonic or romantic--are the main focus of Marimite, whereas the relationships in SJ series are invariably secondary to the plot or fighting or whatever else.

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My point is that undertones don't decide what genre(s) a series is, whether relationship-focused or not. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame guys (or girls) for wanting to hook up the entire Marimite cast with one another any more than I blame girls (or guys) for wanting to write about Hikaru and Akira being hot for one another or the entire cast of TeniPuri engaged in a gay orgy. But there is a difference between "subtext" and "text".

However, if someone was arguing that there are no undertones whatsoever, then I would be fighting against that too. Which is what I think Fence is saying. I''m just needling him a bit. /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif

They're there, absolutely. It just doesn't define the show. Does this make sense or do I sound crazy?

[something]

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musouka said:
They're there, absolutely. It just doesn't define the show. Does this make sense or do I sound crazy?

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Makes a bit of sense, but I don't think that means you have to say, point blank, "it isn't shoujo-ai". I know you were partly poking fun, but it's not like someone who says "MariMite is shoujo-ai" necessarily means "MariMite is shoujo-ai and absolutely nothing else". Any good show is a lot of things at once, and I think MariMite is no exception. And I think there's also disagreement over whether strong and pervasive subtext can impart the shoujo-ai label, to whatever degree, or whether you take the extremely literal view that "if they ain't kissing and groping, it can't be called shoujo-ai at all".

I guess it's obvious I'm on the side of the former way of thinking about it. MariMite is definitely shoujo-ai -- and romance and drama and school life and angsty and...[etc.]

[musouka]

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disarm said:
Makes a bit of sense, but I don't think that means you have to say, point blank, "it isn't shoujo-ai".

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Why? Is there a particular reason why I should have to sugar coat my perspective on the series? I mean, yeah, part of it was to tease Fence, but I really wouldn't classify Marimite as shoujo-ai.

[something]

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musouka said:
Why? Is there a particular reason why I should have to sugar coat my perspective on the series? I mean, yeah, part of it was to tease Fence, but I really wouldn't classify Marimite as shoujo-ai.

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Christ. Who said anything about sugarcoating? I swear you're preprogrammed to always take things that way. The rest of my post explained where I was coming from, and I thought you yourself said there were shoujo-ai elements in the show. You did clearly note that there wasn't "nothing to it" (to quote: "They're there, absolutely. It just doesn't define the show.")

And as I stressed, I never implied that you had to say the show "is defined by shoujo-ai" or "is completely not shoujo-ai"... that was the whole point of talking about a show being an amalgamation of genres, characteristics, influences, and expressions. And one of those (though we disagree on to what degree), is shoujo-ai.

Did I misread you somewhere? Or are you with Skywise on this after all?

[musouka]

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disarm said:
I thought you yourself said there were shoujo-ai elements in the show.

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Yes, I did. But I think I was pretty clear in my stance that a few of those elements, when not the main focus of the series, are not enough for me to classify the series under that label.

This makes me sound anal beyond belief so I tried to be somewhat nebulous. I'm almost wishing I hadn't stepped in because it's really not THAT big a deal to me, but if you want to know my official stance I'd classify Marimite as a "shoujo series with GL themes".

Another one of my favorite series has strong romantic interactions between two male side characters. They eventually became a couple. But since the series as a whole is not about their love life, I don't classify it at a BL series. It's a shoujo series with BL in it.

[something]

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musouka said:
but if you want to know my official stance I'd classify Marimite as a "shoujo series with GL themes".

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Which, of course, is really no different than I've been saying all along =P I suppose the difference, if you can call it one, if that I define a show by its themes and characteristics, but allow for a large number of them to hold equal (or nearly so) prominence. Shoujo (that vague term), shoujo-ai, school life, drama, refined all girls' (usually religious) academy" feel... Gokigenyo-ism, maybe.], etc.

And really, I'm not prepared to say one of those has to trump the others. But if forced to choose, I'd say the "gokigenyo-ism" defines the show for me much more than the whole "shoujo" thing.

[Yuriko]

I'm a female Marimite fan who doesn't consider it shoujo ai at all. I like shoujo ai, but Marimite always just seemed like "normal" female relationships to me - the fact that the occasional character is apparently lesbian doesn't make it a shoujo ai series IMO, or almost every series there is would be shoujo/shounen ai...

~Y

[musouka]

Sorry, I don't agree with that. If a movie has no sci-fi themes except for the fact that, oh say, the cars in it run on water and it takes place ten years in the future, do you classify it as sci-fi? Don't you think if people are looking for a sci-fi story, they're going to be dissappointed by the fact that it's actually mainly a romantic comedy?

It makes more sense to classify the series by major themes that are actually clearly outlined in the series, not because of your personal opinion that some of the girls make really cute couples.

[something]

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musouka said:
Sorry, I don't agree with that. If a movie has no sci-fi themes except for the fact that, oh say, the cars in it run on water and it takes place ten years in the future, do you classify it as sci-fi?

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No, because that would be stupid. And isn't a good analogy at all, in my eyes.

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It makes more sense to classify the series by major themes

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Which is exactly what I did here.

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that are actually clearly outlined in the series, not because of your personal opinion that some of the girls make really cute couples.

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I suppose I'm not getting through here, but clearly this is where I don't agree with you. I think the relationships range from "bit of a stretch" to "explicitly stated", and if you don't see that, so be it, but I'm certainly not changing my opinion. So, I see it as blindingly obvious, you see it as almost the opposite, and this damn thread isn't even supposed to be about MariMite, so I'm done with this line of discussion.

[musouka]

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disarm said:
Which is exactly what I did here.

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Uh, no, you didn't. There is a reason that was one sentence and not broken into two, you know.


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I think the relationships range from "bit of a stretch" to "explicitly stated", and if you don't see that, so be it, but I'm certainly not changing my opinion.

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Platonic relationships, sure. But there was only one canon lesbian pair. That is a fact. The rest is your opinion, which, of course, you are more than welcome to have. It's not useful when it comes to classifying explicitly stated themes, though. Until all of the couples you classify as "explicitly stated" make their romantic intentions clear beyond a doubt--such as confessing their love, kissing, ect, ect--then they are only couples in your mind.

[Riari]

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quen said:
http://www.pri-pri.jp/

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Sold! Guys that hot, and well... I don't know what it is with me and cross-dressing series, but I always love them...

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I love this series. It just amuses me so much. And the manga is looking to be just as good. /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif

[OleGoatweed]

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Each set of people in the image in the website is the same person. They show the guy in drag opposite to the male guy.
So Locus Clyne he is not /images/graemlins/happy.gif

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Y'know, going with that thought, the red-haired one, when not sporting the longer locks, would look kind of like a man version of ROD the TV's Anita King, the blue-haired one looks kind of like a man version of FMP's Chidori Kaname, and the blond-haired one looks like a man version of Trinity Blood's Sister Kate.

[Buster Darkwings]

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Skywise said:

I actually thought Princess Princes would have been a fitting name for it. It would be written the same way in kana, so I'm thinking that that's actually what the Japanese were going for when they first made it (and that they subsequently mispelled it when they romanized it).

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Princess Princes would actually be プリンセスプリンセズ in Japanese and not プリンセスプリンセス, so it wasn't meant to be that.

[Skywise]

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Buster Darkwings said:
Princess Princes would actually be プリンセスプリンセズ in Japanese and not プリンセスプリンセス, so it wasn't meant to be that.

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Actually both would be valid. There are no hard and fast rules for how to write things in kana unless they're loanwords you'd find in say, a dictionary.

[Buster Darkwings]

A pronunciation being valid doesn't mean that a lot of people use it. The way the Japanese normally pronounce the English -s/-es suffix is ズ, not ス. And when they make a pun using two different words, they wouldn't want to use the same pronunciation when it's an obscure one that wouldn't be immediately recognizable.

[Skywise]

Err.. you're being rather broad and generalizing here. Suffice it to say that I don't agree. There's a hundred and umpteen ways to make puns and you can't really say that one way is more correct (or wrong) than the other.

[Buster Darkwings]

I think you're grasping at straws. There's little point in making a pun if no one will get it. I can't even think of any often-used examples of where they would use ス instead of ズ for a plural word. If you want to go ahead on believing that it's possible, fine, but it's still not a very likely intention.

[mandisaw]

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Sorry, I don't agree with that. If a movie has no sci-fi themes except for the fact that, oh say, the cars in it run on water and it takes place ten years in the future, do you classify it as sci-fi? Don't you think if people are looking for a sci-fi story, they're going to be dissappointed by the fact that it's actually mainly a romantic comedy?

It makes more sense to classify the series by major themes that are actually clearly outlined in the series, not because of your personal opinion that some of the girls make really cute couples.

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Hmm, sorry to jump in here, but I'd say that you folks are getting a bit bogged down in the "keyword search" mentality. Typically folks describe stories with a chain of adjectives, each one having a different *bang* for different people. Everyone who watches MariMite emphasizes some different aspect of the series, whether it's the two levels of coming-of-age angst (entering & leaving high-school), girl-crushes (general idolization of the Rose Families), or the (proto-)lesbian romance(s) (one each in the recent & distant past).

Especially when talking about a series to another fan of that series, as you both seem to be (I think), settling on one label is kind of moot. Besides which, "shoujo-ai" & "shounen-ai" are pretty loose-fitting fan-labels that're capable of encompassing everything from shy hero-worship to all-but-sexual physical relationships. Try not to get too agitated if somebody draws the line in a different part of the sand.

[mandisaw]

To get back to the (original) topic, I think Princess Princess is a fun show, but it may suffer from misdirected expectations. In the anime at least, despite the cross-dressing and the lusty ending sequence /images/graemlins/catgirl0.gif, the relationships stay on the friendly roommate level. The funky comedy and underlying dramatic backstories are cool in their own right, though. Basically, for a short series (12 eps), it's just the right mental palatte-cleanser. *grin*

The brightness of the character designs took a bit of getting used to, though... The prevailing uniform color is black, so the main characters' color schemes are all pretty "glow-in-the-dark Crayolas", if you get my meaning (check out ANN's page, to get a basic idea).

Also, I think the best part is watching just what they make the "princesses" do, on a strictly platonic, not-exactly-hazing level. I ended up spluttering when <span style='color:#dddddd;background:#dddddd'>they had the guys do a concert skit for a school event, and they did their rendition of the "Cutey Honey" theme, complete with 80's idol-singer moves.</span>

[Isuzu Inugami]

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John Sirabella said:
Well I guess than you can get Princess Prince which is some title about Boys dressing as Girls in a School...It is not the Live Action but the anime series...I have the contract somewhere here when I went to Japan they gave me the final draft...not sure when it is coming out probably spring 2007??

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Wait, what!?! When did this get picked up?

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You know that MB doesn't do big announcements /images/graemlins/tongue.gif


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This must win some sort of award for most <font color="red">casual</font> announcement ever, though! "I have the contract somewhere here" /images/graemlins/sdsmiley.gif