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Loafy
12-12-2006, 05:10 PM
Not sure if this should be in OT or R1 but to be safe I've posted it here and mods can move it if I'm wrong.
according to thedigitalbits (http://thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents)
Sony has just announced Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children - Limited Edition Collector's Set (that includes a bonus disc, the script, a book and postcards) due on Feb 20/07. Hopefully this will have the OVA missing from the original release and give me a reason to double dip.
Greywing
12-12-2006, 05:23 PM
Not sure if this should be in OT or R1 but to be safe I've posted it here and mods can move it if I'm wrong.
according to thedigitalbits (http://thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents)
Sony has just announced Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children - Limited Edition Collector's Set (that includes a bonus disc, the script, a book and postcards) due on Feb 20/07. Hopefully this will have the OVA missing from the original release and give me a reason to double dip.
If it has Last Order, I'm buying. I've expressly put off buying Advent Children with this in mind, that a 'super ultra special mega' edition would come out with the OVA intact. Hopefully, this will be that 'super ultra special mega' collection.
danhawk
12-12-2006, 11:03 PM
yeah after paying 400 0r so for the r2 we get a us realse :realanger: :realanger: :realanger: :sad: :sad: :tired:
Interesting, but what about the super-duper Bluray disc that supposed to have 7 minutes of additional materia(l).
This movie is well on it's way to becoming Sony's version of Evangelion.
Loafy
12-13-2006, 11:14 AM
Interesting, but what about the super-duper Bluray disc that supposed to have 7 minutes of additional materia(l).
This movie is well on it's way to becoming Sony's version of Evangelion.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Gues thye are really milking it before thy milk it again on Blu-Ray. I may have to pass on this after all...
canaryfarmer
12-13-2006, 12:47 PM
From The Digital Bits:
Sony has announced a Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children - Limited Edition Collector's Set (that includes a bonus disc, the script, a book and postcards) for release on 2/20.
I was wondering how long it would be before Sony milked this one again.
SunWuKong
12-13-2006, 01:00 PM
This was also posted in Off Topic Discussions:
http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/15466/
Perhaps we can merge these 2 threads in 1 of the section.
canaryfarmer
12-13-2006, 01:02 PM
This was also posted in Off Topic Discussions:
http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/15466/
Perhaps we can merge these 2 threads in 1 of the section.
Sorry--I rarely visit Off-Topic. Didn't know it had been posted already there.
Kellory
12-13-2006, 01:08 PM
Perhaps we can merge these 2 threads in 1 of the section.
Yes we can. However, in the future please use the Alert button (Called Alert or Report or has some funky symbol depending on your skin) at the bottom of each post. It is faster and easier to do so, and one doesnt have to look like the Mod Police when doing so. :)
Kikaroo
12-13-2006, 01:45 PM
Not sure if this should be in OT or R1 but to be safe I've posted it here and mods can move it if I'm wrong.
according to thedigitalbits (http://thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents)
Sony has just announced Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children - Limited Edition Collector's Set (that includes a bonus disc, the script, a book and postcards) due on Feb 20/07. Hopefully this will have the OVA missing from the original release and give me a reason to double dip.
Ooo! I'm so double-dipping on this. I certainly wasn't going to "pass" on the first DVD after waiting so long to see AC, but had hoped for a bit more frills.
Oniko
12-13-2006, 01:55 PM
Not sure if this should be in OT or R1 but to be safe I've posted it here and mods can move it if I'm wrong.
according to thedigitalbits (http://thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents)
Sony has just announced Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children - Limited Edition Collector's Set (that includes a bonus disc, the script, a book and postcards) due on Feb 20/07. Hopefully this will have the OVA missing from the original release and give me a reason to double dip.
Well, all I can say is about bloody time. Although I must say I'm a bit piqued that they waited so long to release something like this. Sony would of been smart to have had an LE version out when they first released the DVD. At the least, my Hubby should be able to pawn the old version on one of his coworkers.
Kellory
12-13-2006, 03:10 PM
Sony has just announced Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children - Limited Edition Collector's Set (that includes a bonus disc, the script, a book and postcards) due on Feb 20/07. Hopefully this will have the OVA missing from the original release and give me a reason to double dip.
Well, all I can say is about bloody time. Although I must say I'm a bit piqued that they waited so long to release something like this. Sony would of been smart to have had an LE version out when they first released the DVD. At the least, my Hubby should be able to pawn the old version on one of his coworkers.
On the other hand, this allows them to milk the original group and then get the rest with the LE and probably get many of the original buyers to double dip. It is a pretty frequent marketing tactic to withhold bonus material for a future release. How many people got hit with that with the LoTR's collector sets. Of course, after the first one we all learned, but for a single release it probably works in Sony's favor. They can collect twice with the same stuff.
hikaru004
12-13-2006, 04:10 PM
So is this going to be roughly the Japanese LE (Advent Pieces (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=ACLT-34031)) without cloud+fenrir figure, t-shirt, cap and game?
kakugo
12-13-2006, 06:23 PM
I can only assume the extras disc on the re-release will just be the second disc from the current R1 Special Edition. I'll be the first to admit that I'd love to be wrong and magically see Last Order included somehow.
I like Advent Children, but without the OVA I don't see enough of a reason to double-dip just yet. Maybe if the book is nice and the price is right. Besides, why double dip now? Surely I could just wait until Advent Children Complete gets a Super Limited Edition DVD/Blu-Ray release with a bunch of pack-in extras instead. :)
Who didn't see this coming, especially in time for the holidays :roll:
Mazinkaizer
12-14-2006, 07:44 AM
Not sure if this should be in OT or R1 but to be safe I've posted it here and mods can move it if I'm wrong.
according to thedigitalbits (http://thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents)
Sony has just announced Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children - Limited Edition Collector's Set (that includes a bonus disc, the script, a book and postcards) due on Feb 20/07. Hopefully this will have the OVA missing from the original release and give me a reason to double dip.
If it has Last Order, I'm buying. I've expressly put off buying Advent Children with this in mind, that a 'super ultra special mega' edition would come out with the OVA intact. Hopefully, this will be that 'super ultra special mega' collection.
I also didn't go for the previous release because of that. I hope that we'll finally get the chance to see the OVA for an R1 release. I am not sure though how much of the R2 goodies will be included in this one. Let's wait and see ;)
Jeez, no wonder why they were selling Advent Children in the Suncoast bargain bin for $5.00... Anyway, I am not double-dipping on this. I'll double-dip when it comes out on Blu-ray... in collector's/limited edition format. :P
Loafy
12-15-2006, 11:22 AM
Who didn't see this coming, especially in time for the holidays :roll:
Um it's not due till Feb 07. What holiday are you talking about, Valentine's Day? ;)
Sony's Valentine gift to you :evil:. If thats not a twisted gift I don't know what is heh.
The interesting thing would be if it took Sony this long to negotiate the rights to the specials. One would think that these would of came out with the first release. I personally think Sony rushed it out the door to get it out, now they have time to come back and do a proper release.
joelgundam01
12-15-2006, 12:13 PM
The interesting thing would be if it took Sony this long to negotiate the rights to the specials. One would think that these would of came out with the first release. I personally think Sony rushed it out the door to get it out, now they have time to come back and do a proper release.
I personally think it was intentional. Just look at one their other popular releases, Spiderman. The first movie had two addition releases (one six months after the first release and the other when Spiderman 2 released out in theaters) with lots of additional bonus content and pack-ins.
DeadlyMessiah
12-15-2006, 01:34 PM
I don't recall Spider-Man having an Extended cut??
As for AC, it is no surprise as this is Sony after all. However, they can kiss my ass. First they delay the movie for about 9 months, making us wait to see it becuase they wanted to do a theatrical release that NEVER happened, and now they want us to double dip a year later. Screw that. The ony way I'd buy this movie again is if it is on BR AND they made the plot make sense (but that is impossible since even the game's plot was nonsensical).
Loafy
12-15-2006, 02:38 PM
The interesting thing would be if it took Sony this long to negotiate the rights to the specials. One would think that these would of came out with the first release. I personally think Sony rushed it out the door to get it out, now they have time to come back and do a proper release.
I personally think it was intentional. Just look at one their other popular releases, Spiderman. The first movie had two addition releases (one six months after the first release and the other when Spiderman 2 released out in theaters) with lots of additional bonus content and pack-ins.
It's a coomon studio practice to entice consumers to double dip. It's completely intentional. It's crap no doubt but it's good business from a financial standpoint.
kakugo
12-15-2006, 08:21 PM
Spider-Man never had an extended cut, just new special features and bonus swag.
As far as the plot making sense... well, I didn't have any trouble following it. Explaining it to a friend who's never played the game was another story. But there is Advent Children Complete which promises several minutes of new footage, and while I know plenty of that is extended battle sequences and "improved" animation, there may be a scene or two of dialogue meant to help this 101 minutes of raw fanservice fall in to place. We'll just have to wait and see.
There's been absolutely no indication that this new release will have new audio tracks of special features, just pack-ins, and since we know there's going to be the Complete version released early next year in Japan we're definately just better off waiting unless you either don't own it, or need to see the translated (?) script and artbook. Assuming the script isn't still in Japanese, I wonder if it'll be the original translation Japan was using on the international trailers or the less accurate subtitle script actually used for the dub/subtitle track?
MajinVejita
12-15-2006, 11:33 PM
I wonder if it'll be the original translation Japan was using on the international trailers or the less accurate subtitle script actually used for the dub/subtitle track?
Oh, don't start that. I tried to post here before when AC came out about how the subtitle track they ended up using was inaccurate, and people started jumping my ass as though I was saying I wanted strict romanizations of kana and the original Japanese grammatical syntax >_>;;
-Corey
kakugo
12-16-2006, 02:32 AM
I can't be curious if Sony is going to hand us the script they themselves were handed and in effect admit they screwed up? :P
Plenty of things in the subtitles for Advent Children ticked me off, but it's far from the worst atrocity against the Japanese language I've seen comitted. I've literally owned legit DVD's where the translators just made them up as they went along without knowing even the most basic phrases. Japan Shock's DVD of Eat the Schoolgirl (Kogal Gui: Osaka Terekura-hen) deserves a spot in the Guiness book for the single most BS filled drunken rambling of a translation ever. (And this is after years of Anime Labs fansubs. ;) ) But they were definately less accurate than the subtitles that were used on the Japanese trailers in the special features of the R1, and I myself translated a few lines to back you (and others) up on the translation being imperfect.
I don't ask that people use translations like "I'm meeting you for the first time!" when someone says hajimemashite, just that uragirimono not suddenly become "black sheep". But surely you'll back me up on it being pretty hilarious if the script is more accurate than the subtitles they did use?
kaiyouske
12-16-2006, 01:51 PM
According to IGN, here's what this set will contain:
* Ten collectible postcards
* English movie script
* Biographical character booklet
* Reminiscence of FINAL FANTASY VII Story Digest
* FINAL FANTASY VII: ADVENT CHILDREN: Venice Film Festival Footage
* Sneak Peek of Upcoming FINAL FANTASY VII Games
* Trailers
* Deleted Scenes
* The Distance: Making-of Featurette with All New English Voice Cast Interviews
* Anime Feature: Last Order FINAL FANTASY VII
Kikaroo
12-16-2006, 03:42 PM
According to IGN, here's what this set will contain:
* Ten collectible postcards
* English movie script
* Biographical character booklet
* Reminiscence of FINAL FANTASY VII Story Digest
* FINAL FANTASY VII: ADVENT CHILDREN: Venice Film Festival Footage
* Sneak Peek of Upcoming FINAL FANTASY VII Games
* Trailers
* Deleted Scenes
* The Distance: Making-of Featurette with All New English Voice Cast Interviews
* Anime Feature: Last Order FINAL FANTASY VII
Sounds beautiful to me. And more. :neko:
AbeChinchilla
12-16-2006, 06:50 PM
* Anime Feature: Last Order FINAL FANTASY VII
Sold.
hikaru004
12-16-2006, 08:12 PM
* Anime Feature: Last Order FINAL FANTASY VII
Sold.
Me too. Wallet's not happy about this though. ;)
kusanagi-sama
12-17-2006, 12:45 AM
According to IGN, here's what this set will contain:
* Ten collectible postcards
* English movie script
* Biographical character booklet
* Reminiscence of FINAL FANTASY VII Story Digest
* FINAL FANTASY VII: ADVENT CHILDREN: Venice Film Festival Footage
* Sneak Peek of Upcoming FINAL FANTASY VII Games
* Trailers
* Deleted Scenes
* The Distance: Making-of Featurette with All New English Voice Cast Interviews
* Anime Feature: Last Order FINAL FANTASY VII
Why didn't they just include Last Order in the first round. I guess I'll have to buy this too and sell my original copy. :roll:
DeadlyMessiah
12-17-2006, 01:53 AM
Sorry Sony, but I have no reason to bother with Last Order as I recall it only being about the Shinra group guys, which I have no interest in.
Keith
12-17-2006, 04:35 AM
Actually, Last Order covers the events in Cloud's home town prior to the beginning of the game.
Though if Sony "really" wanted fans to double dip, they'd throw in the soundtrack as well.
DeadlyMessiah
12-17-2006, 08:07 AM
Yes, the OST would be what would get me to buy it. But this is Sony we are talking about, and they are very dumb.
canaryfarmer
12-17-2006, 12:50 PM
Actually, Last Order covers the events in Cloud's home town prior to the beginning of the game.
Though if Sony "really" wanted fans to double dip, they'd throw in the soundtrack as well.
Well, they have to save something for the triple-dip! The Ultima Edition? :D
Mazinkaizer
12-17-2006, 01:55 PM
Finally i can nd buy an R1 release of FF AC :) I still can't help thinking thouogh that Sony will re-release it again in the future on Blu-ray with same or more features (like the FF7 remake short CG demo or so that isn't included).
SEGATA
12-17-2006, 03:37 PM
I'm just renting it. I ain't payin' $50 for only 30 minutes of new material. This ain't Japan. I didn't know the PS3 was doing that poorly, though. :P
Leon_Belmont
12-17-2006, 05:50 PM
I'm on this like (choose any one of the below)....
Cloud on depressants
Aeris on swords (whore)
Sephiroth on Mother's Day cards
Barrett on f-bombs
Vincent on make-up
Yuffie on money (whore)
Tifa on milk
Skywise
12-17-2006, 06:16 PM
Finally i can nd buy an R1 release of FF AC :) I still can't help thinking thouogh that Sony will re-release it again in the future on Blu-ray with same or more features (like the FF7 remake short CG demo or so that isn't included).
It's already been announced for Blu-ray in Japan and that edition has a different version of the movie on it. Some of the scenes are changed/extended. Not more details is known right now, like release date or whether Last Order is included in it.
joelgundam01
12-17-2006, 10:17 PM
I don't recall Spider-Man having an Extended cut??
I didn't say it was an extended cut. I said it had "new bonus content". You know! As in new extras.
LexiJ
12-18-2006, 01:25 AM
Yes, the OST would be what would get me to buy it. But this is Sony we are talking about, and they are very dumb.
I'm not seeing anything dumb here. They just got a whole lot of people to rebuy a dvd they already own. Seems pretty smart to me. And I bet they could find a way to get them to buy it a third time.
If I don't get it for Christmas, I'll hold out for the new release. If I do get it, I've already got the OVA, so I'll be good with the first release.
DeadlyMessiah
12-18-2006, 09:01 AM
I'm not seeing anything dumb here. They just got a whole lot of people to rebuy a dvd they already own. Seems pretty smart to me. And I bet they could find a way to get them to buy it a third time.
If I don't get it for Christmas, I'll hold out for the new release. If I do get it, I've already got the OVA, so I'll be good with the first release.
I meant Sony in general. A $600 game system. A high def format they can't even get to work right NOR make the movies look high def. No game titles that are any good (at least to me). Eh, whatever. I've had enough complaining about Sony.
Noodle
12-18-2006, 09:50 AM
According to IGN, here's what this set will contain:
* Ten collectible postcards
* Anime Feature: Last Order FINAL FANTASY VII
I don't know whether to be happy or pissed off.
... I know I'll be buying it again, though. :roll: / :neko: / :realanger:
kakugo
12-18-2006, 11:48 AM
A $600 game system nobody can keep in stock, a High-Def format that everyone who owns both agrees is equal to its' competitor, And a new $50 limited edition of a movie plenty of people have bought already with the one thing that could possibly convince anyone to bother at almost twice the price...
Yeah, Sony's dumb all right. ;)
Still, I'll admit to being frustrated. I bought the R1 the day it came out, and had it just been the pack-in extras (postcards, booklet and script) I'd probably let this one go. I could care less about interviews with the dub cast... but Last Order is an amazingly well produced OVA, and if there were a separate R2 release in the 3800-4800 yen range I'd already own it by now. Factoring that in, buying the Limited Edition R1 is pretty much a no brainer for me.
I do wonder if the new set will be a 3 DVD set with a pair of DVD-5's for the special features (like the R2?) or if all of the extras will be put on a DVD-9? Not that it would matter in terms of bitrate or anything like that, but it could affect how the package is put together. For $50, I hope we're talking about a nice hardcover digipack in an embossed slipcase or something equally classy.
AbeChinchilla
12-18-2006, 06:47 PM
I'm just renting it. I ain't payin' $50 for only 30 minutes of new material. This ain't Japan. I didn't know the PS3 was doing that poorly, though. :P
Last Order isn't the only additional material in this set. There's the booklets and printed goodies.
Printed goodies cost money too.
DeadlyMessiah
12-19-2006, 02:10 AM
A $600 game system nobody can keep in stock, a High-Def format that everyone who owns both agrees is equal to its' competitor, And a new $50 limited edition of a movie plenty of people have bought already with the one thing that could possibly convince anyone to bother at almost twice the price...
Except the HD format they have is not equal in quality to HD-DVD except for the titles by WB and some Disney and Fox titles. Sony's own titles are a piece of stinking cheese.
With that said, we got in 10 PS3s today, it took 7 hours to sell them all. Most people were uninterested or just holding off for a Wii.
Ray_Steam
12-21-2006, 04:12 AM
I'm getting this, as I loved Advent Children to no end. But why do I have this sinking feeling that a couple months after I get this, FFVII: Advent Children Complete will be announced for a US release in a Ultimate 4 disc set?
arromdee
12-21-2006, 09:20 AM
[quote=kaiyouske]I don't know whether to be happy or pissed off.
... I know I'll be buying it again, though. :roll: / :neko: / :realanger:
It teaches an important lesson, though. *If there's something wrong with a release, don't buy it*.
I would have bought Project A-ko the first time it came out, if it hadn't been letterbox. When it did come out in 4:3, I bought without having paid twice. I didn't buy Wings of Honneamise, either. I bought the Hong Kong version of Iron Monkey, instead of the Disney version with 8 minutes cut.
Ultimately, the only influence you have on a company is your money. If you're willing to pay for an inferior release, companies have no incentive to give good releases. Sony will be willing to do this again and again, now that you've demonstrated that they can get your money twice by leaving something out of the release the first time.
And it's foolish to believe claims of "it doesn't exist" or "we couldn't get the rights" or "it's in the masters, honest!" or "yeah, the creator approved".
Spoofer
03-06-2007, 10:08 AM
So uh, this is out already right? Didn't see any other threads discussing it.
Does this set actually contain Last Order, or is it just a bunch of new packaging? Everywhere I see it listed online makes no mention of Last Order.
Yes, Last Order is included. It's on the second disc, in Japanese with subtitles (no dub).
Kikaroo
03-06-2007, 02:33 PM
It's out, still haven't picked it up myself though. I've gotten lazy! :D Soon though, it shall be mine.
Puppet Master
03-06-2007, 03:38 PM
So uh, this is out already right? Didn't see any other threads discussing it.
Does this set actually contain Last Order, or is it just a bunch of new packaging? Everywhere I see it listed online makes no mention of Last Order.
As another has said it has the last order and a few other things. I'm a little disappointed that it The Last Order wasn't dubbed but oh well.
kakugo
03-06-2007, 05:21 PM
Saw the box at a Best Buy a couple days ago, but passed for the time being. There's plenty of other movies I don't own yet I'd like to spend that $40 on before buying this again. I was a bit disappointed that it comes in the same double keepcase, but the outer box it's housed in looks very nice.
Disc 2 has been upgraded to a DVD-9 (it would physically have to be to include anything else), though I assume Disc 1 is basically identical. If I can manage to bide my time until Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children COMPLETE comes out I may, though if that includes Last Order too I'll be amazed. I doubt Sony would be stupid enough to make the LE wholly worthless for people who don't like printed extras, but who knows.
MajinVejita
03-06-2007, 05:53 PM
Having the R2 Limited Edition and the R1 initial release, I too will be waiting for the BluRay 'Complete' release. Too bad Sony dubtitled the release, it's pretty sickening.
-Corey
Amano07
03-06-2007, 07:52 PM
Too bad Sony dubtitled the release, it's pretty sickening.
-Corey
are you talking about the R1 or the new Bluray complete?
I assume Disc 1 is basically identical.
Besides the new the disc label, I think this is true. Or at least, I didn't notice anything different from the original release.
Too bad Sony dubtitled the release, it's pretty sickening.
-Corey
are you talking about the R1 or the new Bluray complete?
Is the Bluray even out yet? I would assume R1. And it is pretty sad, especially when you switch to Last Order and see how much better the subtitles are there.
AbeChinchilla
03-07-2007, 02:11 AM
Having the R2 Limited Edition and the R1 initial release, I too will be waiting for the BluRay 'Complete' release. Too bad Sony dubtitled the release, it's pretty sickening.
-Corey
They aren't dubtitles. You must have turned on the wrong English subtitle stream. There's two.
kakugo
03-07-2007, 02:54 AM
You're mistaken, as is Majin Vegeta.
Subtitles: English, French, Spanish, Portugese, Chinese (Traditional), Chinese (Simplified), Korean, Thai.
If you watch the film in English with no subtitles the opening text piece isn't translated. There are most definitely not 2 sets of English subtitles.
The English subtitles are very close to the English dub, but aren't actually dubtitles. Just as an example, at 0:39:15*, the English dub says:
Then when Kadaj says he's looking for "Mother"...
While the subtitles say:
Then the "Mother" Kadaj is looking for...
It isn't vastly different, but it wasn't created just by listening to the English version either, unless Sony took further liberties in the process (which isn't uncommon on English subtitles of English films). It may have been based on an early version of the English dub script or something, but the timing and differences through the two scripts make me think it isn't any sort of dubtitle.
The subtitles suck either way. :P
*Edit: Whoops... make that timecode 0:39:15. I marked the runtime down by mistake. :sd:
Ashtar00
03-07-2007, 08:56 AM
I saw this a couple of weeks ago. As much as I would like the Last Order OVA I'm not bitting. I got the first release and I'm content with it. I've really gotten sick this constant release with an extra special limited edition only a few months later crap from the major studios. I pretty much stop buying regular movies at release because of this. I mean why bother forking out money for a release that their going to make even better two or three months later. I give my thanks everyday that at least the anime industry hasn't become like this. At lest if they do a release of a better edition, it's usually several years down the line(of course there is an occasional exception but rare). And then it actually remastered or something along those lines not just the same film with new extras or 2 minutes of extra footage...
To get off my ramble and back on track :sd: Sorry Sony your not going to get me to buy this nor that PS3 thats been sitting on a shelf of my nearest Wal-Mart since mid January. :P
crosbie394
03-07-2007, 09:09 AM
man; i've been out of the loop so long, I didn't even know this thing existed lmao.
Shows what happens when you leave the world of anime for 8 months.......
I will try and track this baby down on ebay. Think i watched Last Order on google video, but can't quite be sure. I really want the book though. Read two stories before on adventchildren.net but the barret one is new to me!!!
MajinVejita
03-07-2007, 09:40 AM
You're mistaken, as is Majin Vegeta.
The English subtitles are very close to the English dub, but aren't actually dubtitles. Just as an example, at 1:30:25, the English dub says:
It isn't vastly different, but it wasn't created just by listening to the English version either, unless Sony took further liberties in the process (which isn't uncommon on English subtitles of English films). It may have been based on an early version of the English dub script or something, but the timing and differences through the two scripts make me think it isn't any sort of dubtitle.
The subtitles suck either way. :P
Ah yeah, you're right. I haven't watched my Region 1 copy since release day, I just remember watching it and going, "Wow...either the translator took a lot of liberties, or this is a dubtitle script." Sure enough, swiching over to the English dub, there were too many common/identical lines for comfort that weren't the same in the Japanese. I think that's why it stuck in my head as a dubtitled release.
You're correct though, some lines did make it out without being massacred but the subtitles as a whole were terrible.
Sad fact: I know that Sony (or Square) had translated and subtitled the film before, and per some people who had seen screenings it was an accurate translation...however, that script was abandoned in favor of this one. I kinda hoped they might bring it back for this release, but since people have confirmed that's not the case...I wait for the BluRay release.
-Corey
theworld
03-08-2007, 01:35 PM
Believe me, Square-Enix and Sony take quite a bit of liberty with the script for the subtitles on the R1 DVD. My Japanese may not be the best, but I can confidently say that many of the translated subtitles made my eyebrows arch.
ChibiGoku
03-08-2007, 03:05 PM
Sad fact: I know that Sony (or Square) had translated and subtitled the film before, and per some people who had seen screenings it was an accurate translation...however, that script was abandoned in favor of this one.
-Corey
Not really. The subtitles during those screenings... really bugged me, as they took alot of liberties. I haven't seen the R1 subtitles as of yet, but if I saw them I could identify them whether or not these subtitles were used. (Specifically the "Black sheep" line said by Kadaj, which I remember the clearest, when he's addressing the children if I recall correctly.)
MajinVejita
03-08-2007, 05:21 PM
Not really. The subtitles during those screenings... really bugged me, as they took alot of liberties. I haven't seen the R1 subtitles as of yet, but if I saw them I could identify them whether or not these subtitles were used. (Specifically the "Black sheep" line said by Kadaj, which I remember the clearest, when he's addressing the children if I recall correctly.)
Really? Damn, I'm 0-2 then. I could have sworn someone told me they'd been to a screening and the subtitles were decent, especially in comparison to the commercial release.
Oh well, the subtitles suck. That's the one thing I can say for certain ;p
-Corey
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