Gaming NEWS Thread A2: The Sealed Grimoire

[ADC]

Continuing from here (http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/15013/), our issues this Thursday:

• New Virtual Consoles games aren't anything special (though I might get some of that R-Type action once I actually have a Wii).
• Square Enix spams Final Fantasy Tactics the way they've spammed the Big Series. Could this mean a surge in Parasite Eve games is around the corner?
• Virtua Fighter 5 is not a PS3 exclusive, probably because most of the PS3 people just put their consoles up on eBay, the bastards.

[Chacranajxy]

I don't get the title. :sad:

[Johnny]

I don't get the title. :sad:

Neither do I...I think.
A2 is referring to the new FF Tactics DS game, right? and Grimoire is part of the name of the new Nippon Ichi game...

Anyway,

• New Virtual Consoles games aren't anything special (though I might get some of that R-Type action once I actually have a Wii).
• Square Enix spams Final Fantasy Tactics the way they've spammed the Big Series. Could this mean a surge in Parasite Eve games is around the corner?
• Virtua Fighter 5 is not a PS3 exclusive, probably because most of the PS3 people just put their consoles up on eBay, the bastards.

I thought they were pretty good actually. Super Castlevania IV, R-Type and Street Fighter II at least are all great. TJ & E is cool too.
As for the stuff available at the minute, I want to see more N64 stuff. Ocarina of Time and Mario Kart 64 especially.
Also, more SNES RPGs and Sega stuff on the Megadrive (Streets of Rage 1-3 would be a good start).

Obviously, the Japanese VC is the place to be for the best games quickest but I wonder how Nintendo will handle the likes of SoR? Remember that those 3 games were left off the US Sonic Gems Collection as they would have raised the age rating. AFAIK all games on the US VC at the minute are rated E. Maybe the more mature games will come later when parental control locks are in place solely for the VC?

Moving on, it's been quite surprising IMO to see FF Tactics get such a milking. I enjoyed the first game (one of my very first PSone imports!) and will be buying the PSP and likely DS version but never had it down as being super-popular or anything.
Either way, hopefully, as you said, Parasite Eve will be getting the special treatment soon. TBH I'd settle for a PSP port of the two games and maybe some sort of DS spin-off. I loved the first game (subject matter was cool and it had a nice battle system. Aya was hot too) and have the second game unplayed so this would give me a good chance to catch up on it.

As for the VF5 thing, I don't see it making too much of a difference really now that I've had time to think about it. 99% of Japanese will buy it for the PS3 and the US and Europe have never warmed to the series as much as other fighters (like Tekken which is still a PS exclusive) so I can't see that many sales being taken away from Sony.
Plus, personally I'll be buying one of the arcade sticks to play it with but I know I'd much rather play the game with the Sixaxis than the 360 pad.

[GyBaNO]

Plus, personally I'll be buying one of the arcade sticks to play it with but I know I'd much rather play the game with the Sixaxis than the 360 pad.

*shudder*

I still don't know why people love the Sony pads for fighters, they're horrible(d-pad and buttons) compared to the Xbox pads.

Blech....

[ADC]

I don't get the title. :sad:
A2 is referring to the new FF Tactics DS game, right? and Grimoire is part of the name of the new Nippon Ichi game...
Actually, took it straight from your line-item about the FFT/DS game, which is titled Final Fantasy Tactics A2: The Sealed Grimoire. Which could mean it, too, has FF12 ties. And that's fine by me.

[Johnny]

Plus, personally I'll be buying one of the arcade sticks to play it with but I know I'd much rather play the game with the Sixaxis than the 360 pad.

*shudder*

I still don't know why people love the Sony pads for fighters, they're horrible(d-pad and buttons) compared to the Xbox pads.

Blech....

I wouldn't say I love them for fighters, but I definitely prefer the PS dpad to the Xbox one.
Plus, although R2 and L2 wouldn't be as effective as they are on the PS2 pad (as they're more like the 360/Dreamcast triggers) I'd far rather use R1 and L1 than the 360s L and R buttons.

[Johnny]

New Scans:

Dragon Quest Swords (http://www.jeux-france.com/news18569_dragon-quest-swords-s-illustre-sur-wii.html)
Bleach DS 2nd (http://www.jeux-france.com/news18571_bleach-ds-2nd-se-prepare.html)
Reborn (http://www.jeux-france.com/news18572_reborn-de-retour-en-images.html)
It's a Wonderful World (http://www.jeux-france.com/news18567_it-s-a-wonderful-world-illustre.html)

[Kurou]

..and Virtua Fighter 5 is no longer PS3-exclusive.

http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=7366
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/752/752074p1.html

[lostnomad84]

The Virtual Fighter 5 for the 360 is a huge surprise for me to hear about, but at the same time it is not. I have a feeling we are going to start seeing a trend here of few exclusives for systems these days. I think the main reason why Sega chose to put it on the 360 is mainly due to economics. Developing for the 360 and PS3 is expensive and companies want to make a profit, so simply by expanding the system base for the game increases the demographic, thus the number of games sold for a title.

With Virtual Fighter 5 now on the 360, I think it increases fuel to the fire to the possibility of MGS4 on the 360. While I really believe Kojima wants MGS4 to be exclusive for PS3 and he is developing the game around the PS3, with VF5 being released on the 360 and with Konami stating the game is still an exclusive for the PS3 "at this time" leads me to the conclusion that not only is porting a game from the PS3 to the 360 possible, but most likely the drive to port is based on economics. If Metal Gear Solid 4 ever gets ported to the 360, I doubt it would be Kojima that made the decision, but Konami in the hopes of making a bigger profit.

As for which version of the game is more superior, I'm a firm believer of the console it was originally developed on makes a better game. However, I think the only limitation of porting a PS3 game over to the 360 right now is the limitations of DVD to support something in 1080P. The resolution of the game will have to be downscaled to support a game. Other than that, I really wonder if there will be a huge difference between the PS3 version of VF5 and 360 (aside from graphics). I guess we will have to just wait and see.

[Kurou]

I could see MGS4 making it sooner or later. Preferably with the Sub______ edition, which manages to fix all of the things they inevitably botch in the original.

Kojima can say whatever he wants, but it doesn't mean much. After all, this is supposed to be the final game in the series, right? Just like 2 was, or 3..

[Invisible Crane]

As far as I'm concerned, I'm still going to get a PS3 due to the fact that the Final Fantasy games (well....the main ones anyway) are still exclusive to it, and I've been buying FF games since after 7 came out

As long as that it at least exclusive to the PS3, then that's my reason for wanting one

[DiGiKerot]

Super Castlevania IV, R-Type and Street Fighter II at least are all great.

I dunno, I think Castlevania IV is a pretty weak entry in the series - It doesn't really even approach getting going until the third or forth stage. Street Fighter II seems pointless to waste money on when SFIITurbo or Super Street Fighter II will no doubt be coming at some point in the future.

R-Type is good, though.

[kaiyouske]

I dunno, I think Castlevania IV is a pretty weak entry in the series - It doesn't really even approach getting going until the third or forth stage.

I remember when I first played Super Castlevania IV on the SNES....the music just blew me away....the graphics as well. And all the crazy mode 7 effects. However, I'm still taking my stance on boycotting VC games. Their pricing model is way too expensive. For that price I can get the cart itself.

[Azumangaman]

Virtua Fighter 5 on the 360 is the best 360 news I've heard in the last few months!
And, a friend at my dads work bought us a Wireless Network Adapter.
Life is so good

*excluding the fact that the Vikings/Packers game feels like a chore to watch...Back I go*

[Jarred]

Wii SSX Blur Screens (http://www.jeux-france.com/news18570_ssx-blur-too-schuss.html)

[DiGiKerot]

This post is brought to you via wonderful Wii-o-vision! Yeah, opera is up on the EU store now. Typing is a pain though... :nervous:

[Suwako Moriya]

I dunno, I think Castlevania IV is a pretty weak entry in the series - It doesn't really even approach getting going until the third or forth stage.

Well it has been a long time since I played the game, but I was fond of it back in the day. Heck when the Super Nes was gotten it was one of the very first games I played. Granted my Castlevania experience was kind of limited to the first two games. I can't remember if I beat the original, but I know I could never beat Simon's quest for some reason.

[Johnny]

This post is brought to you via wonderful Wii-o-vision! Yeah, opera is up on the EU store now. Typing is a pain though... :nervous:

Wow! Nintendo in giving Europeans first access to something shocker!
Seriously though, that's cool that it's on there. I think the Japanese/US version is available now too so I'll have to check later.

[Johnny]

Other than that, I really wonder if there will be a huge difference between the PS3 version of VF5 and 360 (aside from graphics). I guess we will have to just wait and see.

The 360 version is based on version C (i.e. more recent) of the arcade game whereas the PS3 version is based on an older version B.
As I've said before though, the arcade game is practically built for PS3 conversion, plus there will more than likely be a patch or update to bring the PS3 version up to C rather than B.

[GyBaNO]

I wouldn't say I love them for fighters, but I definitely prefer the PS dpad to the Xbox one.
Plus, although R2 and L2 wouldn't be as effective as they are on the PS2 pad (as they're more like the 360/Dreamcast triggers) I'd far rather use R1 and L1 than the 360s L and R buttons.

Weirdo. I never liked Sony's segmented d-pad. I can't pull off diagonals worth shit on it and I've been playing fighters (rented the PS version and then bought the Saturn version later on) with the damn thing since 1995 and still don't like it.

3D fighters work pretty well IMO though.

As for the L and R buttons, I find that both controllers have damn near the same set-up: two clickable front triggers and two springy analogue ones for the back. I generally don't use the any of the triggers for 2D fighters (especially if its an SNK game, no need too, lol) and just use the face buttons for short and fierce and kick and roundhouse type deals. Thats if I'm offline though. I use the triggers for medium attacks when fighting live opponents.

[DiGiKerot]

This post is brought to you via wonderful Wii-o-vision! Yeah, opera is up on the EU store now. Typing is a pain though... :nervous:

Wow! Nintendo in giving Europeans first access to something shocker!
Seriously though, that's cool that it's on there. I think the Japanese/US version is available now too so I'll have to check later.

Before coming here to post I utilisted the browser to (a) have a look at the asosbrigade site and (b) watch some iDOLM@STER videos on Youtube.

Not necessarily in that order, of course.

Watching stuff on Youtube is a little on the jerky side (but still watchable), but to be honest I'm surprised it works at all.

[Johnny]

This post is brought to you via wonderful Wii-o-vision! Yeah, opera is up on the EU store now. Typing is a pain though... :nervous:

Wow! Nintendo in giving Europeans first access to something shocker!
Seriously though, that's cool that it's on there. I think the Japanese/US version is available now too so I'll have to check later.

Before coming here to post I utilisted the browser to (a) have a look at the asosbrigade site and (b) watch some iDOLM@STER videos on Youtube.

Not necessarily in that order, of course.

Watching stuff on Youtube is a little on the jerky side (but still watchable), but to be honest I'm surprised it works at all.


Yeah, I've been playing around with it a bit. It seems to work fairly well. Youtube is fine 99% of the time but some videos it just doesn't seem to like.
It's nice to use and just as easy as the DS one once you get used to the pointing and typing.
Don't like the huge buttons at the bottom of the page though. Far too intrusive IMO.

The PS3 browser is better for when you're on a porn hunt though as you have 60 wonderful GB to fill :nervous:

[Johnny]

Very nice - Tomb Raider Anniversary trailer and pics (http://ruliweb.empas.com/ruliboard/read.htm?table=game_ps04&page=1&num=21415&main=ps&find=&ftext=).
Looking forward to this one.

[Lego]

Is Lara sporting a Motoko like leotard in the second picture?

[Kikaroo]

As far as I'm concerned, I'm still going to get a PS3 due to the fact that the Final Fantasy games (well....the main ones anyway) are still exclusive to it, and I've been buying FF games since after 7 came out

As long as that it at least exclusive to the PS3, then that's my reason for wanting one

That's pretty much our stance on it as well. Since we hadn't planned on picking up one yet (not until XIII heads this way), the whole "shortage" thing doesn't seem as...stressful to us. And on the bright side - perhaps we'll see a price drop or two by that time.

Of course, that's all subject to change should the hubby see a game coming out he wants the PS3 for before than. :tired:

[Johnny]

Just a quick heads up for US PS3 owners without a Japanese Playstation Store account - GT HD Concept is being released for free on the US store (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/gran-turismo-hd-concept/sony-gives-gran-turismo-hd-concept-for-cmas-223966.php) on Christmas Eve.

[Johnny]

Loads of new DS scans:

Wish Room (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=12970)
Atelier Lise (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=12971)
Luminous Arc (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=12972)
Wario (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=12973)
Lost in Blue 2 (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=12974)
Jet Impulse (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=12975)
Front Mission 1st (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=12977)
FF Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=12979)

Yakuza movie trailer (http://www.gamebrink.com/news/763-Yakuza_Movie_Trailer.html)

[Johnny]

Well I got GT HD downloaded (from the Japanese store as it turned Xmas Eve at 3pm here) and it's decent enough.
It could use an extra track but with 10 cars and considering it's free, I'm happy enough.

Although it did take me over 2 hours to download the ~600Mb file.
Apparently those of us downloading as soon as it became available kinda broke the PS Network (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/free-gran-turismo-knocks-ps3-network-on-its-ass-224013.php) :nervous:
It's still fairly intermittent as I get thrown out of the PS Store quite a bit.

[Suwako Moriya]

Atelier Lise (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=12971)

Lise is definitely rather cute. Although this makes me wonder if we'll ever get the third Atelier Iris game in the U.S. Granted I still need to play the second one. Which requires buying it or at least renting it eventually.

[Johnny]

Just read this on Ruliweb. Not sure of the source but it's pretty interesting even if it's known that a lot of/most big games will be multi format this gen.

With so many titles nowadays moving from "console exclusive" to multiplatform, it’s getting increasingly hard to say confidently which system has the better exclusives.

Compounding this issue, Jun Takeuchi a producer from Capcom has said that Lost Planet may very well make its way to the PlayStation 3.

"We will try to keep it as a 360 exclusive...But, from the company's point of view, when you think about the business, in the future it's something we might have to do," Takeuchi said.

Basically, if the Japanese want the title enough, Capcom may not be able to pass up the financial benefit of porting the title to the PS3.

[Chacranajxy]

It's kind of annoying for me since I like having the best version of a game... I wouldn't have bought a 360 game if I knew the PS3 was getting it since chances are it'll be better and I'll have to sell off the old version.

[GHardin]

It's kind of annoying for me since I like having the best version of a game... I wouldn't have bought a 360 game if I knew the PS3 was getting it since chances are it'll be better and I'll have to sell off the old version.
The problem is, which version would be best? Just because it's on a $600 paperweight doesn't necessarily mean it's any better than a version on a $400 paperweight.

[Chacranajxy]

It's kind of annoying for me since I like having the best version of a game... I wouldn't have bought a 360 game if I knew the PS3 was getting it since chances are it'll be better and I'll have to sell off the old version.
The problem is, which version would be best? Just because it's on a $600 paperweight doesn't necessarily mean it's any better than a version on a $400 paperweight.

PS3 is more powerful though, so after developers learn to use the system, I'd expect the difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions to be like the difference between Gamecube and Xbox versions of games were last gen. Unless, of course, the 360 is the system getting an updated port (like VF5.)

[GetterBeam]

All I've come across thus far VF5 wise is that the PS3 game will be based of Arcade Revision B whereas the 360 game off of Revision C. All otherwise, I'd be surprised if anything else is set in stone in terms of console specific enhancements or whatnot.

[Chacranajxy]

All I've come across thus far VF5 wise is that the PS3 game will be based of Arcade Revision B whereas the 360 game off of Revision C. All otherwise, I'd be surprised if anything else is set in stone in terms of console specific enhancements or whatnot.

I doubt there'll be anything other than that, but it's significant enough to make me wait for the 360 version... hopefully the port quality won't suffer since it's on a system completely different from the Lindbergh arcade hardware.

[GHardin]

PS3 is more powerful though, so after developers learn to use the system, I'd expect the difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions to be like the difference between Gamecube and Xbox versions of games were last gen.

By then I would expect the next-next gen to be along. :roll: :P

[Lego]

Wow...

Maybe it's because I'm a huge fan of music from Metal Gear Solid, but this theme song fit the game perfectly, and Natasha Farrow can sing. The song is called "Calling To The Night". A great song that rivals Snake Eater.

[Johnny]

3 new KoF games in 2007 (including KoF XII) (http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2006/12/25/three-new-king-of-fighters-games-in-2007/)

Some stuff coming to the Japanese Virtual Console in January:

Famicom
--------
Ikki
Ice climber
Parutena no kagami (Kid Icarus)
Zelda II

Super Famicom
--------------
Fire emblem

N64
---------------------------------
Mario kart 64

Megadrive
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Bonanza bros
Gainground

PC Engine
---------
Alien crash
Moto roder
R-type II
Soldier blade

Finally, another N64 game! Can't wait for that.

Sega Ages 2500 vol 29: Monster World Complete Collection pics and info (http://www.the-magicbox.com/0612/game061225c.shtml)

Cooking Mama Wii ads (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=fr_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.jeux-france.com%2fimages0_4_18600.html). 8th February in Japan. Can't wait! (although a certain other big name PS3 game is also coming out on that date :) )

Metroid prime 3 pics (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=13005)

Trusty Bell pics (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=13004). This game needs a release date NOW. Seriously cannot wait for this!

[DiGiKerot]

Finally, another N64 game! Can't wait for that.

Cooking Mama Wii ads (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=fr_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.jeux-france.com%2fimages0_4_18600.html). 8th February in Japan. Can't wait! (although a certain other big name PS3 game is also coming out on that date :) )

Trusty Bell pics (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=13004). This game needs a release date NOW. Seriously cannot wait for this!

Wow, certainly impatient there Johnny :sd:

Isn't that Monster World collection actually missing a game? They have Dragons Trap there, but there was another SMS game released before that one (or at least I remember playing it).

[Johnny]

Finally, another N64 game! Can't wait for that.

Cooking Mama Wii ads (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=fr_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.jeux-france.com%2fimages0_4_18600.html). 8th February in Japan. Can't wait! (although a certain other big name PS3 game is also coming out on that date :) )

Trusty Bell pics (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=13004). This game needs a release date NOW. Seriously cannot wait for this!

Wow, certainly impatient there Johnny :sd:

Well the Wii's been out over a month and we've got loads of Famicom/SFC/MD stuff most people already own so it's time for some lovely N64 stuff!
Enough pandering to the casuals who haven't played Sonic or Super Mario Bros or SF II. Those of us who shunned Nintendo in the PS era need convincing that the N64 was worth owning.

Plus, come on, surely you can understand my wanting Cooking Mama and Trusty Bell ASAP?
It'd make sense for Trusty Bell to be released reasonably soon (depending on how far development is on obviously) as MS have a decent release schedule in Japan atm with Blue Dragon in November/December, Lost Planet in December and IDOLM@STER in January.
Great time for those of us with import 360s
Isn't that Monster World collection actually missing a game? They have Dragons Trap there, but there was another SMS game released before that one (or at least I remember playing it).

No idea to be honest. I'm not overly familiar with the series.

[Chacranajxy]

I wonder when we'll see the next "Holy shit" Sega Ages game... like one with some of Treasure's Saturn games on it.

[Johnny]

Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection (http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20061227/tekken.htm) is now available on the Japanese and HK PS Store. I downloaded it earlier. I already own Tekken 5 on PS2 and Dark Ressurection on PSP but this was only like £7 and has playable Jinpachi so it's definitely worth it IMO.

Forget what I said before, apparently Radilgy is coming to the US after all. (http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2006/12/26/radirgy-coming-to-north-america/)

[Johnny]

First scans of Gundam Musou (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=13017). I enjoy Gundam but don't usually buy any of the games/tie-ins but this actually looks really fuckin' cool. My prediction? Kerrrazy sales in Japan when it hits.

[kaiyouske]

OMG. Now I really want a PS3 now. Crap. It's funny because I linked my friend this and he was like "There's no way they can mass produce that many robots!!"

[DiGiKerot]

First scans of Gundam Musou (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/bbs/view.php?id=usernews&no=13017). I enjoy Gundam but don't usually buy any of the games/tie-ins but this actually looks really fuckin' cool. My prediction? Kerrrazy sales in Japan when it hits.

Oh man, that looks SWEET! Playable Quebly FTW!

That said, I'm one of those wierdos who would prefer a CE game to a UC one. CE mobile suits come across faster and less tanklike, and just feel a bit better suited to a game.

Speaking of Gundam and CE games, the most recent VS game, Rengou vs ZAFT II Plus, is actually pretty damn good.

[RedComet]

Gundams in a Dynasty Warrior-like game catch my eye. I'd import this once I get a PS3 and it's out.

[Kurou]

Rengou vs ZAFT II Plus is good, but it's because they've had so many tries at the exact same game (with new suits each time, naturally) that they finally got it out of suck range.

It's probably the best Gundam game, but still doesn't compare to ACE 2.

[Johnny]

Official site for Draglade (http://www.draglade.jp/), upcoming DS game is up. Looks pretty cool. March 07 Japanese release.

Hokuto no Ken MMO in the works (http://www.hokutonoken-online.jp/index.html)

New Tingle DS game coming plus Mii Wii-motes (http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12598). Turns out these are Japanese Club Nintendo items.

PlayAsia temporarily affected by Taiwanese earthquake (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-17-71-99-74-1ac-49-en.html)

Final Fantasy Tactics PSP trailer (http://www.gamebrink.com/news/770-Final_Fantasy_Tactics_PSP_Remake_Trailer.html)

Dragon Quest Monsters J pics (http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12599). Hope this gets a US release. It's been getting great reviews in Japan so hopefully someone will translate it.

One Piece Wii scans (http://www.jeux-france.com/news18614_one-piece-se-precise-sur-wii.html)

[Suwako Moriya]

I'd like the trailer for Final Fantasy Tactics PSP a bit better if the actual game play section of it didn't come off as well too mixed up to even bother with. Still I am curious about the new classes. There is strong indication that one of them is Onion Knight.

[Johnny]

Just a heads up for any PS3 owners. As you may or may not know, the Japanese PS Store is full of many great PSone games but unfortunately a Japanese credit card is required to buy them.
Well, the great news is that I've just been on the Hong Kong store (where you can use a credit card from anywhere in the world) and they have rejigged things, separating games into English and Japanese version and a couple of previously Japan-only games like R-Type and Tomarunner (don't think it's the L'Arc en Ciel version unfortunately) have been added.
No Dino Crisis yet but hopefully it's only a matter of time before all current and future Japanese games get released for the HK Store.

[jecca-neko]

Final Fantasy Tactics PSP trailer (http://www.gamebrink.com/news/770-Final_Fantasy_Tactics_PSP_Remake_Trailer.html)


I find it strange that the only reasons I want to buy a PSP are for remakes and the ability to play PS1 games on the go.

I really like how those cutscenes look. Nice.

[Johnny]

I find it strange that the only reasons I want to buy a PSP are for remakes and the ability to play PS1 games on the go.



Well, don't let me dictate why exaclty you should be buying a PSP, but if you did buy one for remakes/ports that's cool. Just don't get taken in by that myth that there are no good exclusives on the console.

[jecca-neko]

Well, don't let me dictate why exaclty you should be buying a PSP, but if you did buy one for remakes/ports that's cool. Just don't get taken in by that myth that there are no good exclusives on the console.

Well, it's not that I listen to the myth or anything. I just don't see any exclusives I'm interested in, and I do pay attention to the PSP news. Unless the PSP has some (non-port or remake) RPGs I'm missing. When I ask people about PSP exclusives most talk about games like SOCOM and MGS.

Here's the games I'm interested in:

Tekken Dark Resurrection: But that is just a modified Tekken 5.
Valkyrie Profile Lenneth: It's a remake of the PS1 game.
Final Fantasy Tactics: Ditto.
Silent Hill Origins: A new game but it's probably not a PSP seller for me, most likely.
Power Stone Collection: Just a port of the Dreamcast games.
FFVII Crisis Core: I have no idea if I'm truly interested in this game as so little info is out there.

I can't think of anything else.

[ADC]

FFVII Crisis Core: I have no idea if I'm truly interested in this game as so little info is out there.
Probably the little FFVII thing, for one; and maybe that you get to play as Zack, for another (if I wasn't hallucinating when I saw one of johnny's little jeuxfrance links). I'm borderline interested in this.

[Johnny]

Not that a new Dragon Quest game selling well in Japan in new or anything but Dragon Quest Monsters Joker has shifted 430,000 units (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http://www.jeux-france.com/news18629.html&lp=fr_en&tt=url) (it went on sale yesterday) already. By comparison, FF III managed 330,000 on its first day.
Dragon Quest + Pokemon + DS = Japan in a frenzy.

I dread to think how well Dragon Quest IX will sell on its first day. Half a mil easy.

I am currently fighting a losing battle against being sane and holding off importing this and that new Chocobo RPG.

[jecca-neko]

I dread to think how well Dragon Quest IX will sell on its first day. Half a mil easy.


It was actually a smart move of Square Enix, I think, to put it on the DS as opposed to a console. A LOT of gamers in Japan have a DS. Sure, Dragon Quest IX would sell a ton of copies regardless, but on the DS? It's like printing money.

[Josephine]

I dread to think how well Dragon Quest IX will sell on its first day. Half a mil easy.


It was actually a smart move of Square Enix, I think, to put it on the DS as opposed to a console. A LOT of gamers in Japan have a DS. Sure, Dragon Quest IX would sell a ton of copies regardless, but on the DS? It's like printing money.


Woah! Somehow I missed that it was coming out on DS, or maybe just forgot. That is huge news. I'll be looking forward to it now ^_^

I'm really excited about the DQ: Joker game, too. Still haven't sat down to complete Rocket Slime yet, but I love what I've played of that one so far and will probably want more once I'm finished.

[Johnny]

I dread to think how well Dragon Quest IX will sell on its first day. Half a mil easy.


It was actually a smart move of Square Enix, I think, to put it on the DS as opposed to a console. A LOT of gamers in Japan have a DS. Sure, Dragon Quest IX would sell a ton of copies regardless, but on the DS? It's like printing money.


Well in that sense it is but I'll bet a lot of people still want their Dragon Quest on a home console.

If you're a fan of questionnaires/stats/numbers (generally I'm not) then you may be interested in a recent Famitsu poll:

"Do you welcome Dragon Quest IX on Nintendo DS?"

40.3% say "Yes"
46% say "No"
5.2% say "Neither"
8.5% say "I'm not sure yet"

"Do you like the idea of action-based battles in a Dragon Quest game?"

6.8% say "Neither yes nor no"
19.9% say "I'm not sure yet"
19.4% say "Yes"
53.9% say "No"

Whether or not you want to completely believe the opinions of the hardcore just a few weeks after the game was announced is up to you.
I've grown wary of any sort of industry surveys as they're generally used one week to signal the end of Sony, the next how the Wii is going to take over the world, the next how the 360 is dead in Japan and so on.

Personally I'd much rather have seen a PS3 version with the usual random battles, keeping the likes of DQ Monsters J and Rocket Slime spinoffs on the DS.
But then again, money talks and SE have always said they'd wait to see which console was doing best in Japan before porting a new DQ game to it and I guess the DS is in that position.

[Suwako Moriya]

Whether or not you want to completely believe the opinions of the hardcore just a few weeks after the game was announced is up to you.

It's not a matter of believing, but pondering how much the Famitsu voters really represent in terms of the view. Still I'm sure the first thought many will have is along the lines of "Wow they must really hate change". This will be especially true of those who are outsiders to Dragon Quest and those who don't feel the differences between the DQs are major enough.

Then again as I said in the past. For some just replacing the cherry on a cake with a strawberry is good enough. For others they'll claim a piece of pie and a rock are exactly the same. So who knows with people these days? I certainly don't sometimes.

Regardless while Dragon Quest 9 may lose some sales from the ultra-purist crowd, it will likely gain new sales as well. Plus I'm sure many including ones ready to complain will buy it anyway because the lure is too strong to resist.

Heck even if they may normally hate some of the elements in the new Dragon Quest, the general aura of the series may cause them to like it. I'm sure I'd be the same with the series that I tend to enjoy.

[ADC]

I think it's a bit ironic that there've been so many complaints over the years about FF's gameplay getting stale, yet people cling to the traditional turn-based battle system of the DQs even though it's barely evolved over eight games. Square had done more with the FF battle system 15 years ago.

I don't mind a more action-oriented battle system in DQ9. I'm just glad that Enix's planners aren't so beholden to the archaic trappings of 80s RPG form that they would refuse to consider new ways to play.

[Johnny]

I think it's a bit ironic that there've been so many complaints over the years about FF's gameplay getting stale, yet people cling to the traditional turn-based battle system of the DQs even though it's barely evolved over eight games. Square had done more with the FF battle system 15 years ago.

I don't mind a more action-oriented battle system in DQ9. I'm just glad that Enix's planners aren't so beholden to the archaic trappings of 80s RPG form that they would refuse to consider new ways to play.

It is a little strange. Then again, Dragon Quest is a national institution in Japan. It's as traditional and old as Ultraman. They fucked with the Ultraman template a couple of years ago (made it all dark and scary rather than "family friendly") and what happened? It got cancelled early because everyone hated it.
So maybe in a similar sort of way, the DQ series has stayed so "old and archaic".

And what's wrong with traditonal, turn based, caveman RPGs? :P Give me Dragon Quest VIII over Final Fantasy XII any day. Dragon Quest > Final Fantasy so long as Final Fantasy VII is excluded.

[ADC]

And what's wrong with traditonal, turn based, caveman RPGs? :P Give me Dragon Quest VIII over Final Fantasy XII any day. Dragon Quest > Final Fantasy so long as Final Fantasy VII is excluded.
I would suggest to you that the FFX "conditional turn-based" battle system would be a logical improvement to the Dragon Quest form and should have been done for DQ8. I was playing FF3 and realized that traditional turn-based is kind of annoying now that RPGs are out of their infancy. Granted, the only DQs I rank among my favorite games are 3, 8, and RS, while FFs 6, 7, T, 9, and X-2 are in that list. I guess I just come down on the side of progress. (Maybe it's the difference between the States and the Kingdom — we don't keep our old, musty kirks and keeps around when there's a better way to build a house these days. :P Don't worry, though; when we make the Kingdom the 52nd State — after Canada, see — we'll help you out.)

[DiGiKerot]

And what's wrong with traditonal, turn based, caveman RPGs? :P Give me Dragon Quest VIII over Final Fantasy XII any day. Dragon Quest > Final Fantasy so long as Final Fantasy VII is excluded.

Whats wrong with it is that its, well, exactly the same as 101 games we've already played. The Final Fantasy series has managed to keep me interested because with each game since six or seven they've messed around with their systems enough to keep it interesting for a whole new game.

Dragon Quest has pretty much just stagnated, though. DQVIII is, in my opinion, hugely overrated. Theres a lot of really bad and frustrating game design decisions in that game, mostly with the way combat is handled, which sit really badly with the innovations they've at least attempted to make in the way they present the world. Frankly, the game just gets more and more frustrating because of it as you progress.

Its not really something I can really pin on DQ on its own. Most of Nintendos main franchise games are going the same way - their fringe titles are increasingly where you need to go if you want to see Nintendo doing the innovative stuff you know them for.

I think Castlevania series has done a Metroid game too many now as well. They could probably pull off another couple if they completely redid the monster roster completely rather than recycling 80% from one game to the next, and the character switching in PoR is at least interesting, but its getting a little stale now.

[Johnny]

And what's wrong with traditonal, turn based, caveman RPGs? :P Give me Dragon Quest VIII over Final Fantasy XII any day. Dragon Quest > Final Fantasy so long as Final Fantasy VII is excluded.
I would suggest to you that the FFX "conditional turn-based" battle system would be a logical improvement to the Dragon Quest form and should have been done for DQ8. I was playing FF3 and realized that traditional turn-based is kind of annoying now that RPGs are out of their infancy. Granted, the only DQs I rank among my favorite games are 3, 8, and RS, while FFs 6, 7, T, 9, and X-2 are in that list. I guess I just come down on the side of progress. (Maybe it's the difference between the States and the Kingdom — we don't keep our old, musty kirks and keeps around when there's a better way to build a house these days. :P Don't worry, though; when we make the Kingdom the 52nd State — after Canada, see — we'll help you out.)


How the hell did you manage to go from the discussion of turn based RPGs to the UK becoming the 52nd state in a paragraph? O.O :D
Seriously though, I suppose it could be/could have been updated for VIII but the fact that it has stayed the same for so long only to be changed completely in the next game is kinda weird. I don't really see it having much of an impact on sales (DQ + DS in Japan = win) but it will certainly feels weird.

At least Monsters J is more traditional. Swords looks to be different again but I can excuse that as it's more of a spin off than a part of the 'official' DQ series.

[Johnny]

Dragon Quest has pretty much just stagnated, though. DQVIII is, in my opinion, hugely overrated.

Heathen! No but I see what you mean. The thing is I'm not a huge RPG player so I'm happy with my caveman RPGs with their turn based system and lack of voices :D
It could also be because VIII is the only Dragon Quest game I've played (I know, I know. I'm hoping the older ones turn up on the VC at some stage. Plus, I've been eyeing up some of the PSone budget reprints for ages now) so it doesn't feel as overdone to me.

Probably the reason I'm loving Blue Dragon so much. I have to continually remind myself (after I check once again that I'm playing it on a 360 and not PS2/3) that this isn't the latest Dragon Quest game. The Toriyama characters don't really help much either.

[ADC]

How the hell did you manage to go from the discussion of turn based RPGs to the UK becoming the 52nd state in a paragraph? O.O :D
Seriously though, I suppose it could be/could have been updated for VIII but the fact that it has stayed the same for so long only to be changed completely in the next game is kinda weird. I don't really see it having much of an impact on sales (DQ + DS in Japan = win) but it will certainly feels weird.

At least Monsters J is more traditional. Swords looks to be different again but I can excuse that as it's more of a spin off than a part of the 'official' DQ series.
Suckle at Mother America's teat, United Kingdom!

And sure, it'll feel weird when DQ9 doesn't have the usual battle system, but it'll probably take half an hour or so before we're wondering why they didn't do this three or four games ago. (Not that I have any proof that they didn't, as three or four games ago, they weren't crossing the Pacific. Still, let's assume they didn't. For the sake of argument.) In the meantime, I'm just glad to see more DQ games make it to America. Just wish they'd DSify DQ3 or put it up on Virtual Console.

Speaking of which, I switched my AirPort base from 802.11g to .11b and now have an extremely unreliable connection for my Wii! (The PowerBook still has no clue at that distance because its antennae are the saddest pieces of shit Apple's included in a computer since the PowerPC 603 with no L2 cache.) I'm trying to shore it up before posting my Friend Code because things are pretty dicey.

Rambling is a gift and a talent. ;)

[SpaceButler]

Give me Dragon Quest VIII over Final Fantasy XII any day.

Ditto.

[DiGiKerot]

Probably the reason I'm loving Blue Dragon so much. I have to continually remind myself (after I check once again that I'm playing it on a 360 and not PS2/3) that this isn't the latest Dragon Quest game. The Toriyama characters don't really help much either.

Blue Dragons next on my list of RPGs to look at after I'm finished with FFXII. As it stands, I've only been playing for an hour and, as such, have only just gotten the shadows.

[Suwako Moriya]

I think it's a bit ironic that there've been so many complaints over the years about FF's gameplay getting stale, yet people cling to the traditional turn-based battle system of the DQs even though it's barely evolved over eight games. Square had done more with the FF battle system 15 years ago.

Granted I have not played much of DQ, but isn't turn based or how you fight part of the whole? What about the other aspects to the battle system a game may have. I mean you wouldn't say that FF3 is exactly like FF2 just because both are turn based. Since FF2 has the need based system and FF3 has the job system.

A variety of RPGs series have been accused of being stale. Yet at the same time there has been complaints about daring to change things. For the former no change is good enough and for the latter even a minor change is considered a crime against humanity.

Still in the end I can't hate DQ for remaining turn based since I still play turn based games even today. Then there is the matter of trapping myself where eventually I'd have to hate ATB, CTB, etc as well. Leaving me with no style of RPG to play. Also I can always mix things up by for example playing Tales if I want real time battles.

[Chacranajxy]

Just finished Zelda. Goddamn, that was a good game. Sure, it didn't do anything that the last Zelda games haven't done, but it was simply spectacular from start to finish. The level of polish here was unbelievable. Any game that has me putting in 8 hour days or playing for 4 hours straight (which I don't think I've ever done) has to be damn good. I had the game paused for quite some time (which runs up the clock) so it's hard to say how long it took me, but I'm estimating between 25 and 30 hours.

What's cool is that I never played Wind Waker (bought it a year ago, haven't opened it) and I haven't finished OOT. So... this kinda motivated me to get goin' on those in the future.

[ADC]

Granted I have not played much of DQ, but isn't turn based or how you fight part of the whole? What about the other aspects to the battle system a game may have. I mean you wouldn't say that FF3 is exactly like FF2 just because both are turn based. Since FF2 has the need based system and FF3 has the job system.
I'm referring specifically to the structure of the battle system — the way it handles time and turns (ADB, ATB, CTB, TTB), the menu options, that kind of thing. The Dragon Quest games have been TTB since the first, and the only qualitative change from pure menu-based TTB has been the addition of rudimentary AI. I think what you're discussing is very dependent on the battle system but only changes things within the structure of the battle system.

This is as opposed to how, in FF4, for example, Square switched from TTB to ATB, forcing you to direct your team not in rounds but in (sort of) real time; or FFX, shifting to a CTB in which every action might change the order of the subsequent actions. Does that make sense?

I'm just saying that the Dragon Quests' gameplay has been almost exactly the same for 20 years, while Final Fantasy has had more tweaks and variations. I think that's sort of ironic, given that FF sometimes gets bitched out for not changing from a menu-based battle system while DQ gets a pass.

Note that I'm not saying it's bad that the DQs have been TTB for so long, only that it's strange that they've barely updated it at all until the ninth title.

[jecca-neko]

Personally I'd much rather have seen a PS3 version with the usual random battles, keeping the likes of DQ Monsters J and Rocket Slime spinoffs on the DS.
But then again, money talks and SE have always said they'd wait to see which console was doing best in Japan before porting a new DQ game to it and I guess the DS is in that position.

I personally don't care very much what it goes to. Every time I've given the DQ series a chance I get bored. I don't know why, really. But I still think this is a smart move. Why? 2 reasons:

1) Money
2) The DS needs more RPGs.

For the second one, sure, I won't be buying DQIX no matter what. BUT if it is put on the DS maybe more great RPGs will too.

[Johnny]

Not sure how much truth there is to this but I seen this on Ruliweb and apparently comes from teamxbox.com forums:

TK6 Xbox360 will be released in winter 2007, supporting Live.
TK6 PS3: release date still unknown.

The downloadable TK5/DR is there because of a deal between Namco and Sony that Namco must bring at least one new Tekken game to PS3 in 2006. It should have been Tekken 6, but due to the development problem and the PS3 shortage, Namco brings TK5/DR so that the contract is not violated.

[Lovely]

Every time I've given the DQ series a chance I get bored. I don't know why, really.

Ahahaha, something we agree on there :) . *is still bitter about DQVII and the 30 hours of life I'LL NEVER GET BACK.*

[Randall Flagg]

Just finished Zelda. Goddamn, that was a good game. Sure, it didn't do anything that the last Zelda games haven't done, but it was simply spectacular from start to finish. The level of polish here was unbelievable. Any game that has me putting in 8 hour days or playing for 4 hours straight (which I don't think I've ever done) has to be damn good. I had the game paused for quite some time (which runs up the clock) so it's hard to say how long it took me, but I'm estimating between 25 and 30 hours.

Man, I must be playing through this much slower than I thought. I'm about 20 hours into it and only through 3 dungeons. Of course, I'm just enjoying taking it all in.

and I haven't finished OOT.

Damned heathen. :P Finish it, man, finish it!!

[Johnny]

Animal Crossing Wii info (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http://www.jeux-france.com/news18632.html&lp=fr_en&tt=url)
According to JF, as well as a new AC theme park opening in Japan, at the end of the credits in the new movie, the phrase "Let's meet in Wii" appears.
Current rumours suggest using Mii's in the game and transferring data from the DS version.

New Final Fantasy XIII scans (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http://www.jeux-france.com/news18631.html&lp=fr_en&tt=url)

[Josephine]

Animal Crossing Wii info (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http://www.jeux-france.com/news18632.html&lp=fr_en&tt=url)
According to JF, as well as a new AC theme park opening in Japan, at the end of the credits in the new movie, the phrase "Let's meet in Wii" appears.
Current rumours suggest using Mii's in the game and transferring data from the DS version.

Ooh... this is gonna be my achille's heel. I can't not play a new version of Animal Crossing. Especially if they take advantage of the Mii system, which I can imagine being a very cute way of setting up the character.

And really, I want to go to the AC Theme park too. If only to see giant mascot-sized versions of Tom Nook, Friga, Katrina, and all the rest ^_^;

[Azumangaman]

Not sure how much truth there is to this but I seen this on Ruliweb and apparently comes from teamxbox.com forums:

TK6 Xbox360 will be released in winter 2007, supporting Live.
TK6 PS3: release date still unknown.

The downloadable TK5/DR is there because of a deal between Namco and Sony that Namco must bring at least one new Tekken game to PS3 in 2006. It should have been Tekken 6, but due to the development problem and the PS3 shortage, Namco brings TK5/DR so that the contract is not violated.


If this ends up being true, the only temptation for the PS3 I'll have is a new Ratchet and Clank game.
I WILL LOVE THE WORLD if this is true!
Potentially the best gaming rumour I've ever heard.

[FigNewton]

It is a little strange. Then again, Dragon Quest is a national institution in Japan. It's as traditional and old as Ultraman. They fucked with the Ultraman template a couple of years ago (made it all dark and scary rather than "family friendly") and what happened? It got cancelled early because everyone hated it.


Eeeeh, there was some other stuff going on there too, like leaving it in a time slot where it wasn't attracting the right audience. Besides, anyone who hated Nexus was just wrong, it was freakin awesome. :>

[Suwako Moriya]

Every time I've given the DQ series a chance I get bored.

That's been my problem in general. The first Dragon Quest had the advantage of timing. It was one of the first or perhaps the first RPG I played. I wasn't ready for anything fancy yet. So the basic system of kill stuff, buy stuff, kill more stuff, buy more stuff, move forward, rinse and repeat worked out fine.

However beyond that I've had trouble getting into the series for the main reason of boredom. It also didn't help that during the NES days I was more into platforms games than RPGs. I was not concerned with saving the crystals, but rather I was concerned with destroying the robot masters. Thus while various NES DQs were rented, I never really played them much.

It was not until the SNES days thanks to Final Fantasy IV that I truly got into RPGs. However a lot of my focus went to playing some SNES RPGs. Mostly of the Squaresoft variety. Not that it mattered since the SNES Dragon quests were no where in sight.

Dragon Quest 7 flew under my radar to be honest. Dragon Quest 8 was gotten and I have considered trying it. However I have yet to find the right time and be in the right mood to try the game. I'm not sure if/when I ever will be. Although perhaps one day I will.

[Johnny]

Everyone loves wild rumours. Especially when they involve extremely exciting games and have some degree of truth based of past murmourings.
So, does it get much better than Radiant Silvergun 3 on the 360 and NiGHTS on Wii? (http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2007/01/02/radiant-silvergun-3-on-the-xbox-360-nights-on-the-wii/)

RS3 has been on the radar for ages, since Treasure spoke of an "original shooting game" for the 360. NiGHTS is mostly a game on the "bring this to Wii now!" list of anyone who played the original and I'd love to see it happen.

[Chacranajxy]

Everyone loves wild rumours. Especially when they involve extremely exciting games and have some degree of truth based of past murmourings.
So, does it get much better than Radiant Silvergun 3 on the 360 and NiGHTS on Wii? (http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2007/01/02/radiant-silvergun-3-on-the-xbox-360-nights-on-the-wii/)

RS3 has been on the radar for ages, since Treasure spoke of an "original shooting game" for the 360. NiGHTS is mostly a game on the "bring this to Wii now!" list of anyone who played the original and I'd love to see it happen.

I don't care too much about Nights, but Radiant Silvergun 3... holy shit, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Given the past though, I doubt it'd come out on the 360 in the US... but this'd be the game to make me import a 360.

[Johnny]

Everyone loves wild rumours. Especially when they involve extremely exciting games and have some degree of truth based of past murmourings.
So, does it get much better than Radiant Silvergun 3 on the 360 and NiGHTS on Wii? (http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2007/01/02/radiant-silvergun-3-on-the-xbox-360-nights-on-the-wii/)

RS3 has been on the radar for ages, since Treasure spoke of an "original shooting game" for the 360. NiGHTS is mostly a game on the "bring this to Wii now!" list of anyone who played the original and I'd love to see it happen.

I don't care too much about Nights, but Radiant Silvergun 3... holy shit, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Given the past though, I doubt it'd come out on the 360 in the US... but this'd be the game to make me import a 360.

Well it's likely one of those "70 Japanese developed games, 50 of which will be Japan exclusive" games Peter Moore talked about.
Plus, chances of the Japanese version being region free are roughly zero so yeah, importing a Japanese 360 would be a good idea.
It would be a fantastic time to go for one at the minute too as prices are pretty good and the number of Japan only games is rising by the month. You know you want Senko no Ronde and iMAS...

[Josephine]

Everyone loves wild rumours. Especially when they involve extremely exciting games and have some degree of truth based of past murmourings.
So, does it get much better than Radiant Silvergun 3 on the 360 and NiGHTS on Wii? (http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2007/01/02/radiant-silvergun-3-on-the-xbox-360-nights-on-the-wii/)

RS3 has been on the radar for ages, since Treasure spoke of an "original shooting game" for the 360. NiGHTS is mostly a game on the "bring this to Wii now!" list of anyone who played the original and I'd love to see it happen.

Radiant Silvergun 3? Where's 2? Is Ikaruga considered 2? I always thought it was more of a spiritual successor than a sequel.

And Nights on Wii? I'll believe it when I see it, but that would be a truly amazing occurrence.

[GHardin]

Radiant Silvergun 3? Where's 2? Is Ikaruga considered 2? I always thought it was more of a spiritual successor than a sequel.


Yeah, it sounds more like a strange numbering more than anything else, though when booting up Ikaruga, it does say Project RS-2, so take it as you will. :sd:

Either way, it would be nice to see another shmup.

[Johnny]

Tingle RPG coming to Europe (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http://www.jeux-france.com/news18688.html&lp=fr_en&tt=url)

Zettai Zetsumei Toshi 2 Itetsuita Kiokutachi (Disaster Report 2) coming to the US (http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12716)

Gundam Musou official site up (http://gundam-musou.jp/)

[Johnny]

Sont have revealed some new PS3 release dates on the official PS site:

Sonic the Hedgehog : January 30, 2007
F.E.A.R. : February 13, 2007
Virtua Fighter 5 : February 20, 2007
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion : February 26, 2007
MotorStorm : February 27, 2007
Heavenly Sword : March 6, 2007
Tom Clancy' S Rainbow Six: Vegas : March 20, 2007

Just Heavenly Sword for me as I already have Motorstorm and am getting the Japanese VF5.
If PS3s really are as freely available as some are suggesting, now would be a great time to pick one up as those three I mentioned at least are must own games.
Don't know if I can wait another 2 months for Heavenly Sword but I think VF5 will help pass the time until then.

[jecca-neko]

Heavenly Sword : March 6, 2007


What genre is Heavenly Sword? I know nothing about it...

[Johnny]

Heavenly Sword : March 6, 2007


What genre is Heavenly Sword? I know nothing about it...


It's been given the nickname Goddess of War by some which says it all really as it's similar to God of War. Looks gorgeous too.

[flowerettefan]

Tingle RPG coming to Europe (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http://www.jeux-france.com/news18688.html&lp=fr_en&tt=url)

Not to sound rude, but where exactly? The link seems to redirect to the homepage.

[SpaceButler]

Virtua Fighter 5 : February 20, 2007
Heavenly Sword : March 6, 2007


I'll be getting these. Just sucks that I only have Resistance to play till those come out... I guess I could get Ridge Racer though...

[Chacranajxy]

Heavenly Sword : March 6, 2007


What genre is Heavenly Sword? I know nothing about it...


It's been given the nickname Goddess of War by some which says it all really as it's similar to God of War. Looks gorgeous too.

It looks like it could be really good, but I don't think they've shown anything outside of that colliseum level... so I'm cautiously optimistic for now.

[SpaceButler]

I just saw this (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/ps3-launch-outsells-xbox-360-launch-226742.php) on Kotaku, and again here (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6163828.html?tag=latestnews;title;1) on Gamespot.

Finally some good news from Sony, but it still kills me to see all these unwanted PS3's sitting in stores everywhere. As I'm not sure I can buy the,"Wow. Maybe all of those PS3s sitting around have more to do with ramped up production than dwindling desire", statment in the Kotaku artical. It'd be nice if it were true, but it's not.

[lostnomad84]

I just saw this (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/ps3-launch-outsells-xbox-360-launch-226742.php) on Kotaku, and again here (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6163828.html?tag=latestnews;title;1) on Gamespot.

Finally some good news from Sony, but it still kills me to see all these unwanted PS3's sitting in stores everywhere. As I'm not sure I can buy the,"Wow. Maybe all of those PS3s sitting around have more to do with ramped up production than dwindling desire", statment in the Kotaku artical. It'd be nice if it were true, but it's not.

Good for Sony getting the units in stores over Microsoft this time last year. However, 1 million shipped doesn't mean sold. I'm also wondering if Sony will pull this off:


Dille also set a new goal for the company in the keynote. He said that Sony hopes to ship 6 million PS3s worldwide by the end of March. The electronics giant will launch the PS3 in several new regions that month, including Europe, Russia, the Middle East, Africa, and Australasia.


Seems like Sony is committed once again to Europe in March. I'm very skeptical about Sony reaching a total of 6 million PS3's in 3 months, but seems like they will at least give Europeans what they finally deserve.

[SpaceButler]

I'm very skeptical about Sony reaching a total of 6 million PS3's in 3 months, but seems like they will at least give Europeans what they finally deserve.

Ya, 6 million units seems like a pretty high number... I don't really see it happening.

I hope the EU launch goes well though. At least they will have somewhat better launch titles with Virtua Fighter in the line up, but I don't know if that will have any effect on drawing gamers to the platform over there. Are arcade fighters even big over there at all?

[lostnomad84]

I'm very skeptical about Sony reaching a total of 6 million PS3's in 3 months, but seems like they will at least give Europeans what they finally deserve.

Ya, 6 million units seems like a pretty high number... I don't really see it happening.

I hope the EU launch goes well though. At least they will have somewhat better launch titles with Virtua Fighter in the line up, but I don't know if that will have any effect on drawing gamers to the platform over there. Are arcade fighters even big over there at all?

I have no idea, but I wonder exactly how high the demand will be for the PS3 in Europe after cutting them out of the original launch plans, killing Lik-Sang, and after the holiday season with people buying the 360 and Wii. No doubt units will sell, but one goes to wonder if Sony could of had a stronger demand in Europe if they originally didn't axe them out of the launch plans.

[SpaceButler]

I wonder exactly how high the demand will be for the PS3 in Europe after cutting them out of the original launch plans, killing Lik-Sang, and after the holiday season with people buying the 360 and Wii. No doubt units will sell, but one goes to wonder if Sony could of had a stronger demand in Europe if they originally didn't axe them out of the launch plans.

Ya, I didn't even think about all that stuff... Man, maybe Sony is doomed to be in last place this console generation. All of the bad vibes around Sony right now and all the "PS3 is doomed!" talk around the internet is finally getting to me. I'm sad. :(

I like my PS3, I don't want it to die! :cry:

[Lego]

I still stand by my thinking that Sony COULDN'T pull off a US, Japan, and European launch with the small ammount of units they had for the US launch and even for the Japanese launch. Not to rain on European AOD'rs parade, but it just seemed that way since I first heard about it. You can tell that they wanted to get situated in the US and Japan first before hitting Europe.

[Johnny]

I hope the EU launch goes well though. At least they will have somewhat better launch titles with Virtua Fighter in the line up, but I don't know if that will have any effect on drawing gamers to the platform over there. Are arcade fighters even big over there at all?

No not really but it doesn't really matter. Europe is pretty much like Japan without the great games in terms of complete and utter dominance by Sony.
The thought that the 360 or Wii will outsell the PS3 in Europe is laughable. This was the only region were the PSP was outselling the DS (which is still, like the GBA, considered primarily a kids console. One look at the charts will tell you that) until fairly recently.

As an example, most shelf space in UK game shops, in terms of space allocated/game count goes PS2 - PSP/360 with the Wii hidden away and the DS stuck somewhere in the back.
The PS3 displays/games will take over most of the shops.

[Johnny]

I have no idea, but I wonder exactly how high the demand will be for the PS3 in Europe after cutting them out of the original launch plans, killing Lik-Sang, and after the holiday season with people buying the 360 and Wii. No doubt units will sell, but one goes to wonder if Sony could of had a stronger demand in Europe if they originally didn't axe them out of the launch plans.

Remember the guy who said something along the lines of "Europeans don't care" regarding the PS3 delay? He was right. The mainstream gamers here don't give a flying fuck about your 360 or your Wii or anything not Sony branded.
Come March, expect queues, preorder madness, fights etc all throughout the UK. Mark my words.

[SpaceButler]

No not really but it doesn't really matter. Europe is pretty much like Japan without the great games in terms of complete and utter dominance by Sony.
The thought that the 360 or Wii will outsell the PS3 in Europe is laughable. This was the only region were the PSP was outselling the DS (which is still, like the GBA, considered primarily a kids console. One look at the charts will tell you that) until fairly recently.

As an example, most shelf space in UK game shops, in terms of space allocated/game count goes PS2 - PSP/360 with the Wii hidden away and the DS stuck somewhere in the back.
The PS3 displays/games will take over most of the shops.

That's what I thought about the NA market though, and now it seems like everyone here hates Sony.

[Johnny]

No not really but it doesn't really matter. Europe is pretty much like Japan without the great games in terms of complete and utter dominance by Sony.
The thought that the 360 or Wii will outsell the PS3 in Europe is laughable. This was the only region were the PSP was outselling the DS (which is still, like the GBA, considered primarily a kids console. One look at the charts will tell you that) until fairly recently.

As an example, most shelf space in UK game shops, in terms of space allocated/game count goes PS2 - PSP/360 with the Wii hidden away and the DS stuck somewhere in the back.
The PS3 displays/games will take over most of the shops.

That's what I thought about the NA market though, and now it seems like everyone here hates Sony.

Well I see what you mean but seriously, Europe is strictly Sony territory and while some of the more hardcore/importing community thinks poorly of Sony, the mainstream will buy the PS3 regardless of price.
It's worth pointing out that the Wii has recently sold extremely well in the UK, if not all of Europe, but personally I think that while it should continue in the same way as the DS in the US and Japan, i.e. loads of fresh, innovative releases, I think that once the initial hype wears off, Europe will largely forget about the Wii. A lot depends on how well NoE get their act together. Although it's too early to say anything yet, looking at the Euro Wii release dates, it looks like typical Nintendo again.

[Johnny]

I'm sure most of you are aware but for those yet to see it, the following games were added to the Wii Virtual Console today:

Gradius (NES)
Soldier Blade (PCE)
Dungeon Explorer (PCE)

I fancy me some Soldier Blade after the excellent Super Star Soldier.
Japan gets their lot tomorrow and I'm praying that this is the day (it's gotta be some Tuesday in January) that Mario Kart 64 arrives.

On a similar note, the following Midway games are coming to the US Playstation Store as PSP downloads:

Mortal Kombat II
Gauntlet II
Joust
Rampage World Tour
Rampart
Championship Sprint

Not too fussed about the others, but looking forward to MKII.

More news, pics and stuff:

Theme Park DS pics (http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/imgcache/12782.imgcache)
Nanostray 2 trailer (http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12764)
Kaitou: Wario the Seven DS TVCM (http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12747)
White Knight Story PS3 pics (http://www.the-magicbox.com/0701/game070107b.shtml)
Parodius (http://www.the-magicbox.com/0701/game070107f.shtml), Twinbee (http://www.the-magicbox.com/0701/game070107d.shtml) and Salamander (http://www.the-magicbox.com/0701/game070107e.shtml) Portable pics
Diddy Kong Racing (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http://www.jeux-france.com/news18692.html&lp=fr_en&tt=url) coming to the DS on the 5th February

[Johnny]

Great news (well for me anyway) in that Sega have put out a press release on upcoming US/Euro VC games:

SAN FRANCISCO & LONDON (January 8, 2007) - SEGA® of America, Inc. and SEGA Europe Ltd. today announced five titles from its SEGA Genesis™ library, Streets of Rage, Bio-Hazard Battle, Gain Ground, Comix Zone and Bonanza Bros. will soon be available on the Wii™ Shop Channel for download and play on the Wii’s Virtual Console. Prices start at 800 Wii Points for SEGA Genesis titles. Wii Points can be purchased online or at select retailers at an MSRP of $20 for 2,000 points.

“The Wii Shop Channel is a great avenue for gamers who want instant access to classic SEGA Genesis titles,” said Scott A. Steinberg, Vice President of Marketing, SEGA of America, Inc. “Legendary titles such as Streets of Rage, Comic Zone and Bonanza Bros. are a perfect fit for this platform and will be ready for download later this month.”

Q1 2007 Line Up:

• Streets of Rage - This city was once a happy, peaceful, place…until one day, a powerful secret criminal organization took over. This vicious syndicate soon had control of the government and even the police force. The city has become a center of violence and crime where no one is safe. Amid this turmoil, a group of determined young police officers has sworn to clean up the city. Among them are Adam Hunter, Axel Stone, and Blaze Fielding. They decided to put their lives on the line and take back their city through their special hand-to-hand combat abilities. They are willing to risk anything, even their lives, on the Streets of Rage. (1991/© SEGA)

• Bio-Hazard Battle - An army of biogenetic mutants has gone haywire, terrorizing the world and putting the future of the planet in jeopardy. It’s up to you to take on the mutant menace and restore order and harmony to the planet Avaron, before it’s too late! Through eight levels of intense action, you’ll be up against some of the nastiest, most vile creatures you’ve ever seen, things like mega amoebas, nuclear crabs, electroworms, and gut-grabbing insects. You have four different Bioship fightercraft to choose from, each with unique handling capabilities and weapons systems. Your mission will take you through cavernous mineshafts, the ocean floor, and the Biowar Lab, each populated by heinous creatures that only man could have created. Hop into your fightercraft and save Avaron from certain doom. (1992/© SEGA)

• Gain Ground - It’s the 31st Century, and science and technology have progressed to the point that the human race is approaching perfection: no war, no poverty, and no conflict. With nothing to worry about, the human race seems destined to live forever in harmony; but what if Earth came under attack? By this point in time, people did not know how to cope with problems or conflicts, and had completely lost their survival instincts. In response to this, the United Earth Government created the Gain Ground system, a war simulator that would help humans rediscover their lost instincts. After several terrible malfunctions, the creators became prisoners in their own creation. Now it’s up to you and two courageous comrades to go into the Gain Ground system, rescue your fellow humans, and destroy the system. You’ll battle through different periods in history as you revive your survival instincts, while trying to stay alive! (1991/© SEGA)

• Comix Zone - Sketch Turner is an artist in New York City. One day while Sketch is drawing, there is a huge thunderstorm and a bolt of lightning hits Sketch’s image, bringing it to life. That image is Mortus, a megalomaniac mutant who wants to become real and rule the earth. Mortus magically transports Sketch into the pages of his comic book so that he can end his creator’s life and become real. Inside the comic book, Sketch meets General Alissa Cyan, who believes he is a superhero that came to save their post-apocalyptic world from the evil brought by Mortus’ hand. Now that he’s a comic book superhero, Sketch can fight like a one-man mercenary platoon! (1995/© SEGA)

• Bonanza Bros. - Mobo and Robo Bonanza are enjoying their favorite television show when the picture crackles and the shadowy figure of a mysterious stranger appears on screen. This figure asks them to collect certain items that he has placed inside various buildings to test his security force. If they return the items successfully, Mobo and Robo will be rewarded. The two of them agree to get the job done in just three minutes, however, they don’t know yet that each building is packed with security guards who will raise the alarm if they are caught red-handed and a huge reward will be given out if Mobo and Robo are apprehended. Fortunately both Mobo and Robo are equipped with bullets that can knock the guards unconscious for a few seconds. Help the infamous Bonanza Bros. infiltrate a number of different locations ranging from banks to mansions to casinos and don’t get caught! (1991/© SEGA)

Not too fussed about the other 3, but can't wait for Streets of Rage and Biohazard Battle, two Megadrive greats!

[Johnny]

For those interested, Insomnia have a great review of Cave shmup, Pink Sweets here (http://insomnia.ac/reviews/custom/pinksweets/review.php).

It's something of a follow up to Ibara (same character designs) and looks absolutely gorgeous. Check out the vids on the right hand side of the page too as it also has some great music (especially the boss fight) and looks like another Cave winner.

No ports planned at present. Hopefully it will come to the PS2 before long though.

[Chacranajxy]

For those interested, Insomnia have a great review of Cave shmup, Pink Sweets here (http://insomnia.ac/reviews/custom/pinksweets/review.php).

It's something of a follow up to Ibara (same character designs) and looks absolutely gorgeous. Check out the vids on the right hand side of the page too as it also has some great music (especially the boss fight) and looks like another Cave winner.

No ports planned at present. Hopefully it will come to the PS2 before long though.

It's a Cave shmup, so it's obviously going to be great. I'm really hoping the inevitable PS2 port comes out sometime soon... but it's gonna be kinda hard to convince my friends that a game called "Pink Sweets" is any good.

[Johnny]

It's a Cave shmup, so it's obviously going to be great. I'm really hoping the inevitable PS2 port comes out sometime soon... but it's gonna be kinda hard to convince my friends that a game called "Pink Sweets" is any good.

Just show them the Pink Sweets Girl (http://insomnia.ac/japan/images/pinksweets+exelica/girlpower.JPG) (tm). That should be good enough.

[Johnny]

It's a Cave shmup, so it's obviously going to be great. I'm really hoping the inevitable PS2 port comes out sometime soon... but it's gonna be kinda hard to convince my friends that a game called "Pink Sweets" is any good.

Just show them the Pink Sweets Girl (http://insomnia.ac/japan/images/pinksweets+exelica/girlpower.JPG) (tm). That should be good enough.

Actually, on second thoughts, just show them the promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aky2pG3ZAts) which must be one of the greatest things I have ever witnessed.

[SpaceButler]

Actually, on second thoughts, just show them the promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aky2pG3ZAts) which must be one of the greatest things I have ever witnessed.

That was really weird, and a little creepy.

[SpaceButler]

I just found the best XBLA news ever. (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6163993.html?tag=latestnews;title;0)

Castlevania: SotN on my Xbox...*sniff-sniff* It's almost too good to be true. I also really like this little bit from the artical:

"Symphony of the Night won't be a mere port. Konami has said the game will feature enhanced graphics and sound, widescreen support, achievements, and leaderboards. Players will be able to choose between the original graphics or enhanced visuals that mitigate sprite pixilation when the game is played in high-definition."

[indigo0086]

I'm more interested in worms myself. Once you beat castlevania you beat them all. Especially the first. Unless they have some kind of intense multiplayer. I'm not really into single player xbla unless it's truly addictive.

[GetterBeam]

If it winds up lacking the various GREAT Saturn version exclusives then that'd just be a shame considering this would be the definitive version otherwise.

[Chacranajxy]

If it winds up lacking the various GREAT Saturn version exclusives then that'd just be a shame considering this would be the definitive version otherwise.

I wouldn't call the Saturn exclusives "great." "Tacked on" would work.

[Johnny]

Chocobo o Mahou no Ehon coming to the US as Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales (http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2007/01/09/square-enix-bringing-chocobo-to-mahou-no-ehon-to-the-usa/). This is great news for me anyway as I was really hoping for this to be brought over. I didn't expect it to be announced so quickly so here's hoping for a release date not too far into the future.

Latest Famitsu scores:

35/40 - [9|9|8|9] - Shining Force Exa
32/40 - [8|8|8|8] - Dragon Shadow Spell
32/40 - [8|8|8|8] - Sekaiju no Meikyuu / Etrian Odyssey
31/40 - [8|8|7|8] - .hack//G.U. Vol. 3: Aruku Youna Hayasa de
31/40 - [8|8|7|8] - Excite Truck
30/40 - [8|7|8|7] - M.A.C.H. (Modified Air Combat Heroes)
29/40 - [8|7|7|7] - Kaitou Wario the Seven / Wario: Master of Disguise
28/40 - [8|7|6|7] - Ochaken no Heya DS 2
28/40 - [7|7|7|7] - FIFA Soccer 07
23/40 - [6|6|6|5] - The Sims 2: Pets
23/40 - [6|6|6|5] - Bionicle Heroes
22/40 - [6|6|6|4] - Meitantei Evangelion

Gundam Musou coming to Japan on the 1st March.

Devil May Cry 4 US boxart (http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12798)

Latest Japanese sales figures:

Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker Nintendo DS 593994
Wii Sports Nintendo Wii 95479
Hajimete no Wii: Your First... Nintendo Wii 83487
Nippon Joushikiryoku Kenteikau... Nintendo DS 72159
New Super Mario Bros. DS Nintendo DS 69168
Kawashima Ryuuta Kyouju no... Nintendo DS 61033
Pokemon Diamond Nintendo DS 56222
Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops Sony PSP 51951
Animal Crossing DS Wild World Nintendo DS 50248
Seiken Densetsu 4 PlayStation 2 48405

Look at the difference between first and second place in terms of sales amount: almost 500,000 O.O

Unconfirmed rumour: Capcom is working on a remake of Street Fighter 2, the game will be an e-Distribution game for PS3 via the PlayStation Network.

Another rumour: EGM reported that Microsoft has paid a large dose of money to Capcom, to keep Dead Rising 2 an exclusive title for Xbox 360.

[Kurou]

Another rumour: EGM reported that Microsoft has paid a large dose of money to Capcom, to keep Dead Rising 2 an exclusive title for Xbox 360.

Smart move, if it's true.

[Randall Flagg]

Actually, on second thoughts, just show them the promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aky2pG3ZAts) which must be one of the greatest things I have ever witnessed.

*saves*
That's seriously fuckin' cool.

[Lego]

Box art looks ok. Wonder who the woman is on the back ;)

[jecca-neko]

Unconfirmed rumour: Capcom is working on a remake of Street Fighter 2, the game will be an e-Distribution game for PS3 via the PlayStation Network.


Haven't we had enough versions of Street Fighter 2 over the years? I mean, seriously now...

[Lego]

I'm looking forward to Street Figher 450 when I hit 80. Don't deprive me of my one figment of joy in my old age.

[ADC]

Unconfirmed rumour: Capcom is working on a remake of Street Fighter 2, the game will be an e-Distribution game for PS3 via the PlayStation Network.
Haven't we had enough versions of Street Fighter 2 over the years? I mean, seriously now...
Doesn't matter, so long as they get SF2T up on Virtual Console. The SNES pad (and, therefore, Wii Classic) remains the best controller for fighters (and damn near everything else). I'm a bit torn, on that point, between just living with my GCN copy of Zelda: Ocarina or downloading the N64 version once it hits VC.

My order from The Nintendo Store is out for delivery right now! I'll have progressive-scan gaming tonight!

[GHardin]

I'm looking forward to Street Figher 450 when I hit 80. Don't deprive me of my one figment of joy in my old age.
I think we'd be lucky if we even got Street Fighter 4 before hitting 80! :sd:

[Mateo_home]

Poor, poor Wario. 29/40

Unconfirmed rumour: Capcom is working on a remake of Street Fighter 2, the game will be an e-Distribution game for PS3 via the PlayStation Network.


I'd rather have the SF4 rumor over this one. What's next? A 3D version of SFII? :P

[dunno001]

I'm looking forward to Street Figher 450 when I hit 80. Don't deprive me of my one figment of joy in my old age.

Hate to burst your bubble, but you'll see Super Duper Ultra Street Fighter 2 Turbo Plus With More! before SF4...

[ADC]

I'd rather have the SF4 rumor over this one. What's next? A 3D version of SFII? :P
Done, and done! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_EX)

[Azumangaman]

I'd rather have the SF4 rumor over this one. What's next? A 3D version of SFII? :P
Done, and done! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_EX)

Ewww, don't remind me. That game WASN'T fun.

[ADC]

I'd rather have the SF4 rumor over this one. What's next? A 3D version of SFII? :P
Done, and done! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_EX)
Ewww, don't remind me. That game WASN'T fun.
No, those games were awful. But, as the wiki says, Capcom only licensed the characters. They didn't develop the games. They should be ashamed that their characters ended up in such crap, but there you are.

[Chacranajxy]

I'd rather have the SF4 rumor over this one. What's next? A 3D version of SFII? :P
Done, and done! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_EX)
Ewww, don't remind me. That game WASN'T fun.
No, those games were awful. But, as the wiki says, Capcom only licensed the characters. They didn't develop the games. They should be ashamed that their characters ended up in such crap, but there you are.

Yeah, didn't that Arika company develop the EX series? I know they went on to port stuff like Dodonpachi and Espgaluda to the PS2, so I guess they redeemed themselves.

[Suwako Moriya]

Haven't we had enough versions of Street Fighter 2 over the years? I mean, seriously now...

Are you joking? There needs to be at least 50,000+ versions of Street Fighter 2 before they can work on the 50,000+ versions of Street Fighter 3. Then and only then can they make Street Fighter 4. Now before I freeze myself for 10,000 years in anticipation of the first version of Street Fighter 4, I think we should give Capcom some ideas to speed things up.

Street Fighter 2: Cross Dressing Edition!

Street Fighter 2: Lawsuit Edition!

Street Fighter 2: Concert Edition!

Street Fighter 2: Plothole Edition!

Street Fighter 2: We can't fit the name on the case Edition!

It's all going to be so beautiful, we'll need to build a new building just to house all the Arcade Machines. In fact it's time we just gave Capcom their own state so they have room for all these machines. :>

In all seriousness Capcom really needs to move on from Street Fighter 2 once and for all. Look I have nothing against ports or remakes of older games. Given some of the games I've played in the past and will likely play in the future. However in the end there is such a thing as taking things too far. Which is exactly what Capcom has done with Street Fighter 2 over the years.

[Suwako Moriya]

Apparently it seems that Konami has canceled several games according to this article (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/754/754307p1.html) from IGN. Which I found when a forum I visited linked to a 1UP Article (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3156333). In any case make of the cancellations what you will. Since it's hard to say how far along some of these ideas had gotten before they were canceled by Konami. The first two are likely the worst since at least one can have some idea what they could have been. Especially in the case of Gradius. However the last four are way too vague to be of concern for anyone. Simply because while they could have been your favorite games ever they could have also been your most despised.

[ADC]

Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) was on that cancellation list! Konami just bricked half the PS3s that have been sold!

(onoz)

I don't know, man. That seems a bit dodgy. I admit, though, that the real bummer is the death of Role Playing Game (Wii). Also, the word has not yet reached Gamespot, whom I trust a great deal more than either IGN or (especially) 1UP.

[Lego]

MGS 4 must be taking up A LOT of resources. I still find it funny how the people at 1up(the ones leaving comments) are bitching at Konomai for making one or two games a year. Pixar makes one movie a year, and it seems to be working out just fine.

[Noodle]

Street Fighter 2: We can't fit the name on the case Edition!
Ok, that.... was ridiculously amusing. And also, true.


Street Fighter 2: Cross Dressing Edition!

.... but I secretly want this one.

[Johnny]

Poor, poor Wario. 29/40



Well looking at individual scores it doesn't seem too bad.
I've got the Japanese version preordered so I'll let you know what it's like once it arrives.

[Johnny]

EDIT: Nevermind, MGS Trilogy remakes on 360 rumour outted as fake.

[Johnny]

Unconfirmed rumour: Capcom is working on a remake of Street Fighter 2, the game will be an e-Distribution game for PS3 via the PlayStation Network.


Haven't we had enough versions of Street Fighter 2 over the years? I mean, seriously now...


Well this is the template for all 2D fighters we're talking about here, a game that's still played in (mainly) Japanese arcades and on home consoles years after its original release.
In other words, yes, Capcom have milked it dry but as it's one of the most well known and loved (not to mention one of the best games of all time) games, we're gonna see more and more.

Not sure how much the word "remake" will be applied but I'll still be buying it.

[Jarred]

Official Website (http://www.layton.jp/)
To view the movie trailer, click "Movie" at the top and select the movie quality.
Or go to YouTube (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ywr3JBSYHxA)

Has anyone heard much about this one? The artwork is absolutely gorgeous, reminds me of Triplets of Bellevue, someone put a lot of work into those animation sequences. The music is wonderful as well, as I'd love a soundtrack if it's all like that.

From what I can gather, it's a mix of storyboard adventure with puzzle solving in the vein of the Brain Training series of games. It's based on a best-selling series of children's puzzle books called Head Gymnastics, and will include over 2000 puzzles from the books all using the stylus control.

I'm sold on just the trailer alone. :D Hope this gets translated sometime in the near future.

[Johnny]

Official Website (http://www.layton.jp/)
To view the movie trailer, click "Movie" at the top and select the movie quality.
Or go to YouTube (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ywr3JBSYHxA)

Has anyone heard much about this one?

Yeah, I've been keeping an eye on this for a while as it looks interesting as it's developed by Level 5. Comes out in Japan on the 15th February.
Other than that, there doesn't seem to be a lot of info on it. It should be released in the US at some point though.

[Mateo_home]

Street Fighter 2: Cross Dressing Edition!

Street Fighter 2: Lawsuit Edition!

Street Fighter 2: Concert Edition!

Street Fighter 2: Plothole Edition!

Street Fighter 2: We can't fit the name on the case Edition!


How about the forgotten bootleg versions finally make their way to console. Street Fighter 2 Rainbow or Street Fighter 2 Red Wave. IIRC, those were the ones where you could change your character by pressing Start and character's projectiles went across the screen in a zigzag pattern. :p

[Johnny]

This is driving me fucking crazy so hopefully someone can help. I've added plenty of video files to my PSP in the past. I convert them from whatever format they are in to MP4 and stick them on with no problems, but I've downloaded some MP4s which aren't named in the usual M4VXXXXX.mp4 format and the PSP didn't recognise them. I tried renaming them and it says they are an unsupported format.
Anyone know how to fix this or alternatively, which media player to use to view them on a PC? Universal Media Player says it needs to download some new shit but the page it links to doesn't really help much...

[Randall Flagg]

Official Website (http://www.layton.jp/)
To view the movie trailer, click "Movie" at the top and select the movie quality.
Or go to YouTube (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ywr3JBSYHxA)


Wow!! I would buy that in a heartbeat. It looks incredible.

[Jarred]

I might be the only one here who cares, but here are more SSX Blur (Wii) (http://ncroal.talk.newsweek.com/default.asp?item=427508) screen shots that explain some of the control movements including a couple "Uber Trick" movements.

[Azumangaman]

Official Website (http://www.layton.jp/)
To view the movie trailer, click "Movie" at the top and select the movie quality.
Or go to YouTube (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ywr3JBSYHxA)


I. WANT. THIS. GAME. REALLY. REALLY. BADLY.

I agree with what you said about looking like the Triplettes of Belleville. The envrionments themselves look nearly identical, and anything similar to that movie that defines extreme WIN is enough to entice me.
It looks like a really fun puzzle game that I may even *GASP* pre-order *if* it ever hits stateside. But then again, The US seems to bring over some pretty strange games (see: Phoenix Wright:Ace Attorney, Trauma Centre-or something like that- and Nintendogs). So I hope for the best.

[ilmaestro]

If I add one joker to a standard deck of cards (giving me 53 cards), lay them face down on a table and then uncover them one by one, what is the percentage chance I will uncover all four aces before turning over the joker?

[Josephine]

Well this is the template for all 2D fighters we're talking about here, a game that's still played in (mainly) Japanese arcades and on home consoles years after its original release.
In other words, yes, Capcom have milked it dry but as it's one of the most well known and loved (not to mention one of the best games of all time) games, we're gonna see more and more.

I pretty much agree with what Johnny said... I don't even play fighting games, and even I've played plenty of that one, so I can see reason for it being remade indefinitely. And really, what would Capcom be doing if they weren't milking their series dry? Can we really criticize Capcom, of all companies, for making too many sequels? It's what they do. Not even Nintendo can beat them out for rereleases, remakes, and sequels, and that's saying a lot.

And I've had my eye on Professor Layton for awhile, but that trailer sold me. I want this game to come to the US right now.

[Johnny]

So, turns out there's a lot of misunderstandings going on with Konami recently. First the fairly suspicious MGS Trilogy remakes on the 360 rumour was proved to be fake and now it seems like those games they apparently cancelled aren't actually cancelled after all (http://kotaku.com/gaming/konami/konami-doesnt-cancel-anything-228376.php). Roll on next-gen Gradius! :D

[Suwako Moriya]

Ah this should make a good variety of people happy. It also means we can hopefully find out what those vague projects will actually turn out to be in the long run. Since they could be almost anything.

[ADC]

So, turns out there's a lot of misunderstandings going on with Konami recently. First the fairly suspicious MGS Trilogy remakes on the 360 rumour was proved to be fake and now it seems like those games they apparently cancelled aren't actually cancelled after all (http://kotaku.com/gaming/konami/konami-doesnt-cancel-anything-228376.php). Roll on next-gen Gradius! :D
Did you hear? IGA got sacked!You so totally fell for that! :D

[Johnny]

Square Enix announced they will have a surprise announcement regarding to Final Fantasy later this year, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the series, which is on December 18, 2007. Exact date of the announcement is unknown.
Anyone want to guess as to what this is? Surely it must involve the words "seven" "PS3" and "remake"? Although that wouldn't exactly be surprising as it's been rumoured/suggested for quite a while, I can't see what other news it could be considering we've had announcements for the new XIII games etc.

Also FF related, this isn't confirmed but apparently the following info on FFXIII has been released by Square Enix:

Final Fantasy XIII
* The new male character's name is related to weather, but not related to the female lead character Lightning
* The summon beasts are vastly changed, for example Shiva can now transform into a motor bike, and she can use more than one element, not limited to blizzard
* It is possible to transform the summon beasts into other forms like motor bike during the battle
* The crystal will give user the power to invent/compose certain things
* There is a city inside a floating Cocoon, which is formed by the crystal and protected by a machine
* There are some mysterious changes in the crystal, causing the cocoon "awakened", people fear those who live inside the cocoon become invaders and begin to hate them
* To stabilize the cocoon, people performed emergency treatment to it, banished residents inside the cocoon and move them back to the ground
* The Crystal chose Lightning (the female protagonists), give her fate to lead the world. People believed she's an enemy to the human race, she will lead the world into ruin.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII
* The gameplay will be similar to the Kingdom Hearts series, with more action elements than the FF series
* The male protagonist is capable of teleporting to where his weapons are thrown.
* He has some sort of limits to his power.
* Originally there was no good or evil, but soon it will be divided between the two, in the last Kingdom where the crystal was held
* The Kingdom is very advanced in technologies, and isolated from the outside world.
* The Kingdom is protected by Magic Order, but a group of invaders from outside began to invade the city for the crystal

Final Fantasy Agito XIII
* The game will be in full 3D
* The protagonist is supposed to protect the crystal
* The game will be available on mobile phone by the end of 2007

Crazy Taxi PSP (http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12841) first screens.

The Outsider trailer (http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12829)

Burnout Dominator trailer (http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12824)

Unconfirmed: THQ to release a PS3 port of Saints Row in May.

Koei announced they will be revealing a brand new Musou game for PS2, which have never been seen before. The game is being developed by Omega Force, it will be released in spring 2007.

Square Enix president Yoichi Wada confirmed that Dragon Quest IX: Hoshizora no Mamoribito for NDS will be released in Japan by the end of 2007.

[SpaceButler]

Square Enix announced they will have a surprise announcement regarding to Final Fantasy later this year, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the series, which is on December 18, 2007. Exact date of the announcement is unknown.
Anyone want to guess as to what this is? Surely it must involve the words "seven" "PS3" and "remake"?

I'm almost sure that's what the news will be. I really hope it is what their talking about. For that would force any number of crazy fanboys to buy PS3s. And I want people to buy PS3s.

[SpaceButler]

Square Enix announced they will have a surprise announcement regarding to Final Fantasy later this year, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the series...

BTW, where did you hear this news? I checked but none of the sites I frequent have this posted anywhere.

[Johnny]

Square Enix announced they will have a surprise announcement regarding to Final Fantasy later this year, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the series...

BTW, where did you hear this news? I checked but none of the sites I frequent have this posted anywhere.

It's from The Magicbox who post their news all on the one page so it isn't easy to link to specific pieces of news.
It's appeared on other sites too.

[Merr]

Square Enix announced they will have a surprise announcement regarding to Final Fantasy later this year, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the series, which is on December 18, 2007. Exact date of the announcement is unknown.
Anyone want to guess as to what this is? Surely it must involve the words "seven" "PS3" and "remake"?

I'm almost sure that's what the news will be. I really hope it is what their talking about. For that would force any number of crazy fanboys to buy PS3s. And I want people to buy PS3s.
Though I'm not entirely opposed to an FFVII remake, the Rinoa fanboy in me is still holding out for a remake/continuation of VIII (even if the chance of that actually happening is 10 billion to 1)

[ADC]

Anyone want to guess as to what this is? Surely it must involve the words "seven" "PS3" and "remake"? Although that wouldn't exactly be surprising as it's been rumoured/suggested for quite a while, I can't see what other news it could be considering we've had announcements for the new XIII games etc.
Wouldn't it be funny if their big announcement was something comparatively underwhelming like Chrono Trigger DS? (Life's little ironies: But for FF7/ps3, that would be the announcement to make the average RPGer lose bladder control.) So I figured I'd put together a little brainstorm of Square's potential surprises:

• Dragon Quest VIII-2, starring Jessica, who wears even more outrageous clothes this time 'round. (PS2; 50-1)
• Final Fantasy I & II in full 3D, the former with new job classes. (DS; 75-1)
• Seiken Densetsu collection, from Final Fantasy Gaiden to Legend of Mana, with full Wii Remote + Nunchuk support. (Wii; 100-1)
• Final Fantasy XI Online revamped for new consoles, ported to Intel Macs. (150-1 / 1500-1)
• Compilation of Final Fantasy VII gains three new titles; Square apologizes for Dirge of Cerberus. (Multi-platform; 150-1 / 10000-1)
• Parasite Eve with motion-sensitive controls and Active Dimension Battle system, plus about six hours of side quests. (PS3; 250-1)
• SaGa collection; Romancing SaGa collection; SaGa Frontier collection. (DS; 250-1 / PS2; 200-1 / Wii; 400-1)
• Final Fantasy SSX. Nuff said there. (Multi-platform; 1000-1)
• Square has a bit of revenge, acquires 20 percent of Sony. (5000-1)

Anyone else want to join in? Looking into Square's-Enix' crystal ball is fun!

[SpaceButler]

Wouldn't it be funny if their big announcement was something comparatively underwhelming like Chrono Trigger DS?

Dude, Chrono Trigger DS would kick all sorts of ass. I'd be on it like maggots on dead bitches.

[Johnny]

Anyone want to guess as to what this is? Surely it must involve the words "seven" "PS3" and "remake"? Although that wouldn't exactly be surprising as it's been rumoured/suggested for quite a while, I can't see what other news it could be considering we've had announcements for the new XIII games etc.
Wouldn't it be funny if their big announcement was something comparatively underwhelming like Chrono Trigger DS? (Life's little ironies: But for FF7/ps3, that would be the announcement to make the average RPGer lose bladder control.) So I figured I'd put together a little brainstorm of Square's potential surprises:

• Dragon Quest VIII-2, starring Jessica, who wears even more outrageous clothes this time 'round. (PS2; 50-1)
• Final Fantasy I & II in full 3D, the former with new job classes. (DS; 75-1)
• Seiken Densetsu collection, from Final Fantasy Gaiden to Legend of Mana, with full Wii Remote + Nunchuk support. (Wii; 100-1)
• Final Fantasy XI Online revamped for new consoles, ported to Intel Macs. (150-1 / 1500-1)
• Compilation of Final Fantasy VII gains three new titles; Square apologizes for Dirge of Cerberus. (Multi-platform; 150-1 / 10000-1)
• Parasite Eve with motion-sensitive controls and Active Dimension Battle system, plus about six hours of side quests. (PS3; 250-1)
• SaGa collection; Romancing SaGa collection; SaGa Frontier collection. (DS; 250-1 / PS2; 200-1 / Wii; 400-1)
• Final Fantasy SSX. Nuff said there. (Multi-platform; 1000-1)
• Square has a bit of revenge, acquires 20 percent of Sony. (5000-1)

Anyone else want to join in? Looking into Square's-Enix' crystal ball is fun!


It is indeed. I think your Chrono Trigger DS idea holds at least some weight considering we all know how in Japan, DS + RPG of any kind = win and lots of Yen for all involved so it could happen at some point.
I like your DQ VIII-2 idea, just for the fact that more Jessica in even more revealing costumes is a fantastic prospect.
I'd be all over a new Parasite Eve but I'm not sure if they would want to resurrect the series.

Since we're betting, I'm going with a FF VII PS3 remake as odds on favourite. I was going to suggest something like a multi-format XIII but as it's been announced ages ago I don't really expect that.
My crystal ball is foggy for more ideas, but I can make out the letters D and S in there ;)

[DiGiKerot]

Anyone want to guess as to what this is? Surely it must involve the words "seven" "PS3" and "remake"? Although that wouldn't exactly be surprising as it's been rumoured/suggested for quite a while, I can't see what other news it could be considering we've had announcements for the new XIII games etc.


I would agree a FFVII would seem somewhat logical given that every FF game up to that point has seen a re-release of some form in recent years. Its the PS3 part of things I've not too sure about - it could well be that they have decided to do FFVII for the DS or PSP (though I'd think the former more likely).

[Johnny]

Anyone want to guess as to what this is? Surely it must involve the words "seven" "PS3" and "remake"? Although that wouldn't exactly be surprising as it's been rumoured/suggested for quite a while, I can't see what other news it could be considering we've had announcements for the new XIII games etc.


I would agree a FFVII would seem somewhat logical given that every FF game up to that point has seen a re-release of some form in recent years. Its the PS3 part of things I've not too sure about - it could well be that they have decided to do FFVII for the DS or PSP (though I'd think the former more likely).


Well I'd say the original will be available for PSP as a PSone download on the PS Store at some point (by which time it'll likely be that the downloadable PSone games can be played on the PS3 without the need for the PSP).
As for DS, I'm not so sure. As long as they didn't add any unnecessary touch screen stuff I could live with it but just think of the lovely FFVII cut scenes SE have done for the PS3 way back when it was first being shown off. Surely they weren't just coincidental?

[DiGiKerot]

As for DS, I'm not so sure. As long as they didn't add any unnecessary touch screen stuff I could live with it but just think of the lovely FFVII cut scenes SE have done for the PS3 way back when it was first being shown off. Surely they weren't just coincidental?

It isn't as if SE haven't redone FF cutscenes for Sony's console launches before - the PS2 was announced alongside real-time versions of FFVIII cutscenes IIRC.

[SpaceButler]

...but just think of the lovely FFVII cut scenes SE have done for the PS3 way back when it was first being shown off. Surely they weren't just coincidental?

I don't think it's coincidental at all. Which is why I belive this is the very thing they will announce, even though the cut-scene was with the label "Technical Demo" at E3. IIRC it had no such label when it was replayed at TGS.

Also, there is this (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/finalfantasyvii/news.html?sid=6130109), from Gamespot, that says:

"Square Enix's initial response to our inquiry about whether the tech demo is suggestive of a full game in the works fell in the realm of a carefully worded corporate response. The reps noted that, as was mentioned at E3, the demo was created to show just how powerful the PlayStation 3 technology is. As a result, it's a tech demo only and is not intended to indicate that a PS3 remake of FFVII is presently under active development by the company.

However, when pressed, the reps also noted that further plans for content based on FFVII haven't been set, per se. They affirmed that the resulting reaction from fans over the demo footage and the content related to FFVII shown at the party has been overwhelmingly positive. As a result, provided fan reaction continues to be feverishly positive over the demo, and the very notion of a FFVII remake is certainly something Square Enix would bear in mind when planning future projects."

And, I could be wrong, but I would doubt that they would remake FFVII on a handheld system. As it's probably easily the most popular game in the series, and everyone is prolly already hyped up for a remake with big flashy cut-scenes after the tech demo I would think.

But who knows it's prolly not even a 7 remake that's the news. Maybe they'll really shock us and announce a Final Fantasy Mystic Quest remake/ compilation project for the Xbox 360!?!?!

[Suwako Moriya]

Square Enix announced they will have a surprise announcement regarding to Final Fantasy later this year, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the series, which is on December 18, 2007.

Honestly given how much focus Square-Enix has put on Final Fantasy lately this announcement is going to have to extremely special. I mean think about it. You have 1-2 and 4-6 ported to the GBA. 3 gets a remake and ends up on the DS. You have the two Crystal Chronicles. There was the FF7 compilation. FF12 is getting a spin-off. FF13 is planned as three games even before a single one goes on sale.

In short Square-Enix will have to do something extremely special for it to be valid as a surprise announcement because of the heavy focus. However to be fair even if something isn't surprising does not mean it can't be good. At the same time even if you're expecting something it's never true until confirmed. In short while the masses may expect an FF7 remake it may not be a good idea to hold your breath while waiting for the confirmation even if the chances are high.

[FigNewton]

I'm rather hoping that, along with an announcement on a VII remake we also get announcement that it and the XIII games will also be coming to 360.

Not that I have EITHER system at the moment. But I'm already getting close to dropping on a 360 for certain exclusives there, and the FF games are the only remaining PS3 exclusives I care about... I think. And I'll be perfectly honest, if a FFVII remake does exclusively come to PS3, I will not be the driving force behind a PS3 purchase in this house, though I do love me some VII. It will be my wife, and I would be utterly destroyed if I stood between her and a new gen HD remake of VII. ^^

[SpaceButler]

IGN gives Okami GotY.

Was this game really that good? I haven't played it. I mean I heard it was pretty sweet, but GotY? Seriously? I might have to pick this up if that's the case.

And my poor fav Gears of War isn't even a runner-up for GotY on IGN. :(

Oh and also for anyone who cares Gamespot gave WarioWare: Smooth Moves a 9.1~!

[Johnny]

IGN gives Okami GotY.

Was this game really that good? I haven't played it. I mean I heard it was pretty sweet, but GotY? Seriously? I might have to pick this up if that's the case.


Yes, it's a very good game. Very similar to Zelda but if you're looking for a lengthy game with a great story, great graphics and stunning music then you can't go wrong with Okami.
I found that it got very frustrating in the latter stages, but then again I always find Zelda games frustrating for the same reasons (which is why I'm not playing Twilight Princess much at the minute) so basically if you enjoy your Zelda, definitely get it. Just get it anyway even if you're not a huge Zelda fan.


Oh and also for anyone who cares Gamespot gave WarioWare: Smooth Moves a 9.1~!

Glad to see it getting such high scores. Everyone with a Wii needs this game, it's as simple as that. I played it for ages on import and the only thing I didn't get to experience was multiplayer which I'm sure makes the game even better.

[Mateo_home]

Oh and also for anyone who cares Gamespot gave WarioWare: Smooth Moves a 9.1~!

I want this, but I'm uncertain if it's really worth $50. Not saying that only "good" games should be that price, but I heard it's short and sadly, I feel like those gamers that wants "his moneys worth". But I guess Nintendo knows that I'll pay that amount because my Wii needs some love. All I have is Zelda: TP.

Speaking of TP, I know it's old news, but I find it funny that Gamespot gave the GCN version a 8.9 and the Wii version an 8.8. Also stating in the review that the Wii version is better. All I can say is that Nintendo made a smart move not cancelling the GCN version just to put it on their new console. Because judging by the posts, a lot of players prefer the GCN version over the Wii one. :P

[Johnny]

I want this, but I'm uncertain if it's really worth $50. Not saying that only "good" games should be that price, but I heard it's short and sadly, I feel like those gamers that wants "his moneys worth". But I guess Nintendo knows that I'll pay that amount because my Wii needs some love. All I have is Zelda: TP.



Believe me, you want this. It is certainly short but there is great replay value (especially if you have friends) and I promise you will be laughing and smiling the whole way through. Once you get to the bum-train stage those $50 will seem like such a worthwhile investment.

As far as essential Wii games go, there is really only (IMO of course) Zelda, Trauma Centre and Elebits aside from this at the minute too. Not to say I'm not loving my other Wii games, but wouldn't necessarily classify them as "must have".

[ADC]

Speaking of TP, I know it's old news, but I find it funny that Gamespot gave the GCN version a 8.9 and the Wii version an 8.8. Also stating in the review that the Wii version is better. All I can say is that Nintendo made a smart move not cancelling the GCN version just to put it on their new console. Because judging by the posts, a lot of players prefer the GCN version over the Wii one. :P
The only true advantage the Wii version has over the GCN's is 16:9 support. (They could have done that on the GCN's, but they had to do something to make the Wii's special.) You still have to deal with the whole game being ass-backwards for the benefit of right-handed gamers. :horse:

I did feel a lot more comfortable with the controls on the GCN version because they're familiar. The graphics are pretty much the same either way.

[Mateo_home]

Believe me, you want this. It is certainly short but there is great replay value (especially if you have friends) and I promise you will be laughing and smiling the whole way through. Once you get to the bum-train stage those $50 will seem like such a worthwhile investment.



That's good to hear. Thanks. Because looking at the Wii forecast, it looks like I won't be getting any other games for it until Q4 2007.* :sd: Or if something shows up on VC I'd consider.

*Unless Fire Emblem: Akatsuki no Megami is still set for a Q2 release. And also, it looks like Smash Bros. Brawl won't be out for a while. :P

[ADC]

I'll look at the Warioware. But I don't think the Wii picture looks so bleak between here and Q4:

• Q1: Bust a Move Bash; SSX Blur; Wii Play
• Q2 (played by Corbin Bernsen): Dragon Quest Swords; Super Paper Mario

I gots nothin' for Q3 at the moment and a whole pile of TBAs. Still, that's five games without factoring in SSBB, whenever it drops. Or Fire Emblem. Wii could be pretty awesome by the time Mario Galaxy drops.

[Chacranajxy]

I'll look at the Warioware. But I don't think the Wii picture looks so bleak between here and Q4:

• Q1: Bust a Move Bash; SSX Blur; Wii Play
• Q2 (played by Corbin Bernsen): Dragon Quest Swords; Super Paper Mario

I gots nothin' for Q3 at the moment and a whole pile of TBAs. Still, that's five games without factoring in SSBB, whenever it drops. Or Fire Emblem. Wii could be pretty awesome by the time Mario Galaxy drops.

I think you pointed out why a lot of people feel like the Wii's got nothing coming out for a looong time. Q1's games are pretty fucking bad. Well, unless Metroid Prime 3 hits early.

[SpaceButler]

I think you pointed out why a lot of people feel like the Wii's got nothing coming out for a looong time. Q1's games are pretty fucking bad.

Do any of the consoles have anything decent coming for Q1 now that Lost Planet and WarioWare are out? Only games I can think of that I want right now are Heavenly Sword(this might be Q2 I can't remember), Virtua Fighter 5, Armored Core 4 and Mario Galaxy(Um...this is a Q1 game right?). And there's a few I'm waiting to hear a little more about like Assassins Creed and Crackdown, but that's all I'm really intrested in. A few of these games will prolly be flops too making it an even weaker Q1.

I was gonna add Cooking Mama to the list, but I feel there is no way it'll be better than the DS version. I was already dissapointed by one DS to Wii game...Trauma Center.

And, as far as I'm care, Wii Play can go suck something. I think it looks retarded even if it is only 10 bucks. Plus I hate Mii's, and I found fun of Wii Sports to be very shortlived IMO. So this game is not for me personally I think.

[Jarred]

Mario Galaxy is set for Q2 according to EBGames, but I'm guessing it will push out to Q3/Q4 based on what Nintendo has (not) said.

Q1 does look pretty light, but I agree, I think that's across the board. Holiday hangovers, just like movie releases in the theaters. Everybody pushed hard for the holidays, and now it's time to collect our breaths for summer blockbusters, which if schedules hold true will be Fire Emblem, Metroid, HAMMER, Sadness, Smash Bros, ... O.O

For Q1, I personally am looking forward to SSX Blur and Prince of Persia, which I know is a port but I never played the original so I'm hoping it will be fun to play. Bust A Move and WarioWare I'll buy when I can find them a bit cheaper. :nervous:

That said, the DS has some killer games coming out this month, as well as Q1. A new Phoenix Wright and that Hotel Dusk is getting a lot of great buzz.

[Chacranajxy]

I think you pointed out why a lot of people feel like the Wii's got nothing coming out for a looong time. Q1's games are pretty fucking bad.

Do any of the consoles have anything decent coming for Q1 now that Lost Planet and WarioWare are out? Only games I can think of that I want right now are Heavenly Sword(this might be Q2 I can't remember), Virtua Fighter 5, Armored Core 4 and Mario Galaxy(Um...this is a Q1 game right?). And there's a few I'm waiting to hear a little more about like Assassins Creed and Crackdown, but that's all I'm really intrested in. A few of these games will prolly be flops too making it an even weaker Q1.

I was gonna add Cooking Mama to the list, but I feel there is no way it'll be better than the DS version. I was already dissapointed by one DS to Wii game...Trauma Center.

And, as far as I'm care, Wii Play can go suck something. I think it looks retarded even if it is only 10 bucks. Plus I hate Mii's, and I found fun of Wii Sports to be very shortlived IMO. So this game is not for me personally I think.

Mario Galaxy is coming out in Fall I think... as for other good games coming out on consoles... that's pretty much it unless you count the PS2... which is getting Rogue Galaxy, Ar Tonelico, Persona 3, Dawn of Mana, etc. this quarter. The system is still a juggernaut.

[FigNewton]

Mario Galaxy is coming out in Fall I think... as for other good games coming out on consoles... that's pretty much it unless you count the PS2... which is getting Rogue Galaxy, Ar Tonelico, Persona 3, Dawn of Mana, etc. this quarter. The system is still a juggernaut.


God I can't wait for Rogue Galaxy!!!

[SpaceButler]

Mario Galaxy is coming out in Fall I think...

Oh ewww... That sucks. I was going by what EB/Gamestop had posted(I should know by now not to trust their dates...), but ya it seems to just be listed as TBA 2007 most places.

[SpaceButler]

the PS2... which is getting Rogue Galaxy, Ar Tonelico, Persona 3, Dawn of Mana, etc. this quarter.

I'm intrested in all these games. With the exception of Ar Tonelico(I don't really care for NIS games), but I'm gonna wait to see some reviews before I commit to a purchase of any of these titles.

While on the subject does anyone know any of the Famitsu scores for these games?

Edit: Just found the Mana Famitsu score... 30/40. And the Rogue Glaxay score... 36/40. And Persona 3... 32/40.

[ADC]

Dude, Chrono Trigger DS would kick all sorts of ass. I'd be on it like maggots on dead bitches.
I don't think I'd be quite as excited about it. I'd only be stuck to it like stink on shutchomouth. </lebron>

I'll tell you, though, which of Square's catalog I'd most like to see remastered: Final Fantasy IX. I've said before that they should have delayed it long enough to put it on PS2, and I still think they should revisit it. What would be really awesome, though, is if they asked Level 5 to do the new version up with Dragon Quest VIII looking graphics, as it's the modern FF that shares the most atmosphere with the DQs. They'd no sooner announce it than the world would shift on its axis from the force of some guy in California yelling at the top of his lungs, "OOH SOFT!"

[Johnny]

Do any of the consoles have anything decent coming for Q1 now that Lost Planet and WarioWare are out?

PS3 owns Q1 (even just sticking to big name games as there's a few other lesser known stuff I'm interested in on other platforms):

PS3 - Virtua Fighter 5, Fatal Inertia, Heavenly Sword, Gundam Musou, Motorstorm (JP version is out but adding this as it has online play which makes it essential), Virtua Tennis 3

360 - iDOLM@STER, Crackdown, Armored Core 4 (out on PS3 already) and likely Virtua Tennis 3

Wii - Cooking Mama, Sonic

PS2 - Rogue Galaxy, Fatal Fury Battle Archives 2, Hokuto no Ken, God of War II

DS - Hotel Dusk, Diddy Kong Racing, Bleach 2nd, SNK vs Capcom Card Fighters

PSP - Salamander/Parodius/Twinbee Portable, Ratchet and Clank, After Burner: Black Falcon

[Johnny]

I was gonna add Cooking Mama to the list, but I feel there is no way it'll be better than the DS version. I was already dissapointed by one DS to Wii game...Trauma Center.

Get Cooking Mama on your list! Have you seen the videos (http://www.taito.co.jp/d3/cp/cooking_mama/wi_mama/oryori-1.html) and stuff on the official site? It's not like Trauma Centre which was a remake with a couple of extra bits, but seems to be more or less a new game.
Sure, most of the recipes from the first game will appear at some point, but they've added new foods/recipes and there's now characters from each of the countries that the food comes from plus Cooking Mama herself now *gasp* speaks! :D
Only 3 weeks to go until the Japanese version. I really, really can't wait for it.

And, as far as I'm care, Wii Play can go suck something. I think it looks retarded even if it is only 10 bucks. Plus I hate Mii's, and I found fun of Wii Sports to be very shortlived IMO. So this game is not for me personally I think.

Haha, yeah Wii Play (or Hajimete no Wii as it's called in Japan) is the only Wii launch game from either region I've yet to open.
It's nice that there are mini game based titles so that people can get used to the Wii controls but it took me about an hour to get everything worked out and so don't really want to play loads of games like this. Plus, Warioware has made the Wii party game redundant anyway.
Ennichi no Tatsujin is kinda cool but far too limited, although I will buy Furu Furu Park which is the Wii version of Mawasunda!! which came out on the DS last year.

[Chacranajxy]

the PS2... which is getting Rogue Galaxy, Ar Tonelico, Persona 3, Dawn of Mana, etc. this quarter.

I'm intrested in all these games. With the exception of Ar Tonelico(I don't really care for NIS games), but I'm gonna wait to see some reviews before I commit to a purchase of any of these titles.

While on the subject does anyone know any of the Famitsu scores for these games?

Edit: Just found the Mana Famitsu score... 30/40. And the Rogue Glaxay score... 36/40. And Persona 3... 32/40.

Yeah, Ar Tonelico could go either way, but this is easily the most interesting NIS title I've seen so far. Rogue Galaxy though... I mean, that's the kind of game that I'm going to buy some night and then sit down and play it for like 8 hours straight. It looks... perfect. It's absolutely huge, has a good combat system, supposedly a good story, lotsa environments, etc. I can't believe it's coming out so soon. Obviously a day 1 purchase for me.

[Suwako Moriya]

Yeah, Ar Tonelico could go either way, but this is easily the most interesting NIS title I've seen so far.

The idea of having to balance how long you let the "singing" go on could be interesting if done right. Sadly there are times a game will introduce an interesting system, but fail to give you any reason to actually study the said system. Although even then it can be fun to use the system regardless.

So yeah I was studying up on the game a bit earlier. All I know is I'm interested in trying it. However I'm not sure if I want to pre-order and have a (slim) chance for the artbook. Or if I'd rather just wait for the game to go down in price instead.

Also if you want to get technical while NIS is publishing the game here this is more of a Gust title since it's developed by Gust/Banpresto. Okay granted that depends on how you feel about Gust vs NIS, but still it may be worth mentioning.

[Johnny]

IGN (http://uk.wii.ign.com/index/release.html?constraint.eq.game.locale=us) have put up a list of titles to hit the US Virtual Console in January. They include:

Super Mario World
Metroid
Baseball
Kirby's Adventure
Pilot Wings
Wild Gunman
Urban Champion
Punch Out
Virtual Wrestling
Kid Icarus
Hogan's Alley
Duck Hunt
Comix Zone
Biohazard Battle
Gain Ground
Bonanza Bros
Streets of Rage

I know some of these are already out or confirmed to be coming and that Japan already has some of them like Super Mario World but if true, I can't wait for Duck Hunt, Kirby's Adventure and Pilot Wings, all of which have not had specific dates given thus far.

I'm also praying that this Tuesday is Mario Kart 64 day in Japan...

[ADC]

Pilot Wings
Punch Out
Kid Icarus
Sold! Guess I'll have to get some more Wii points. And I'm glad to see they're out this month, especially Kid Icarus.

I'm going to pass on Metroid and Mario World, as I have them on the GBA. I don't know if I prefer old Metroid or Metroid Zero Mission, but they're both awesome and both portable.

[Suwako Moriya]

Kid Icarus

Reading that makes me once again wonder why after an NES game and a Gameboy game, Nintendo has not bothered to make a new Kid Icarus. Still I guess Pit appearing in Super Smash Brothers kind of gives hope even if it is delusional. In general that list has quite a few nice games on it. Kid Icarus, Kirby's Adventure, and Super Mario World has easy example. Oh Duck Hunt too mainly if you view it more as Dog Hunt and blast the stupid dog repeatedly. DIE MUTT!

[FigNewton]

So how are they doing Duck Hunt? These are all unaltered dumpware games iirc, so without the light gun...?

[tuffy]

So how are they doing Duck Hunt? These are all unaltered dumpware games iirc, so without the light gun...?
I imagine they'll add an onscreen pointer tied to the wiimote and have it report a "hit" or "miss" to the game when the trigger is pulled. Basically, the emulator will abstract away the Zapper much like it turns the classic controller into NES pad inputs now.

[Johnny]

So how are they doing Duck Hunt? These are all unaltered dumpware games iirc, so without the light gun...?

I was just thinking that myself actually. I'd imagine it'll have some sort of remote use as playing the game with a d-pad would be laughable.
Which raises the question of which other future VC games will be updated versions.
There are a million and one old games out there crying out for online support for example, even if the chances of Nintendo adding online play to Mario Kart 64 or Smash Bros is somewhere around 0.1%.

[FigNewton]

I imagine they'll add an onscreen pointer tied to the wiimote and have it report a "hit" or "miss" to the game when the trigger is pulled. Basically, the emulator will abstract away the Zapper much like it turns the classic controller into NES pad inputs now.


But we don't know yet, right? Because so far all of the games on VC have been compeltely unaltered. They just dump the rom images, sell the files, and the emulator loads up exactly what was on the original carts. If they had pointer functionality that would be the first case of Nintendo altering a VC game in any way.

Of course, if they do solve it that way, it won't be like playing a light gun game at all, unfortunately. If only they could have used a mechanism that actually knows exactly what the remote is *pointing at* on screen.

[ADC]

I imagine they'll add an onscreen pointer tied to the wiimote and have it report a "hit" or "miss" to the game when the trigger is pulled. Basically, the emulator will abstract away the Zapper much like it turns the classic controller into NES pad inputs now.
But we don't know yet, right? Because so far all of the games on VC have been compeltely unaltered. They just dump the rom images, sell the files, and the emulator loads up exactly what was on the original carts. If they had pointer functionality that would be the first case of Nintendo altering a VC game in any way.

Of course, if they do solve it that way, it won't be like playing a light gun game at all, unfortunately. If only they could have used a mechanism that actually knows exactly what the remote is *pointing at* on screen.
I think it'll be fine with a reticule for one reason in particular: Once you get into some of the later levels, those ducks are fast. You don't have time to line things up; you still need the hand-eye coördination to get that pointer where it needs to be.

The issue is, because of the sensor technology used, where you point the Wii Remote is not exactly where you point onscreen, an issue mostly of the vertical alignment. If they put a sensor bar on the top and bottom, they could more easily get the vertical correct, but I get a cursor near the bottom of my TV screen when pointing dead-center.

[tuffy]

But we don't know yet, right? Because so far all of the games on VC have been compeltely unaltered. They just dump the rom images, sell the files, and the emulator loads up exactly what was on the original carts. If they had pointer functionality that would be the first case of Nintendo altering a VC game in any way.
The pointer would come from the emulator drawing it on the screen, not from any modifications of the ROM data. Because the emulator knows what the Duck Hunt ROM is putting on your TV screen and where your wiimote is pointing, it can report back that "the Zapper hits" or "the Zapper misses" and the ROM doesn't know the difference.

That's how PC emulators solve the problem now. But it'll likely feel a lot more authentic with the wiimote than with a mouse.

[Suwako Moriya]

The issue is, because of the sensor technology used, where you point the Wii Remote is not exactly where you point onscreen, an issue mostly of the vertical alignment. If they put a sensor bar on the top and bottom, they could more easily get the vertical correct, but I get a cursor near the bottom of my TV screen when pointing dead-center.

*Reads* Maybe it's not as bad it sounds, but for some reason reading this just worries me a lot. I mean I was already worried about the accuracy of the Wii Remote, but now it sounds like I could have cases of frustration. Sure I should eventually learn of the quirks, but during actual game play I'd like of expect where I'm aiming to be where I'm aiming. I don't want to think things like "Okay I need to aim 79 degrees away from the actual target..."

[Johnny]

The issue is, because of the sensor technology used, where you point the Wii Remote is not exactly where you point onscreen, an issue mostly of the vertical alignment. If they put a sensor bar on the top and bottom, they could more easily get the vertical correct, but I get a cursor near the bottom of my TV screen when pointing dead-center.

*Reads* Maybe it's not as bad it sounds, but for some reason reading this just worries me a lot. I mean I was already worried about the accuracy of the Wii Remote, but now it sounds like I could have cases of frustration. Sure I should eventually learn of the quirks, but during actual game play I'd like of expect where I'm aiming to be where I'm aiming. I don't want to think things like "Okay I need to aim 79 degrees away from the actual target..."


Don't worry, ADC's just being weird as usual :D

Seriously though, personally my sensor bar is on the top of my TV and unless I'm too close, it works fine. Different games have different sensitivity though. For instance, Zelda reacts very quickly to the remote being pointed, whereas with Necro-Nesia, it feels a bit more sluggish.

[Suwako Moriya]

Different games have different sensitivity though. For instance, Zelda reacts very quickly to the remote being pointed, whereas with Necro-Nesia, it feels a bit more sluggish.

Heh I can't say I'm surprised to hear that since I've played enough to experience a variety in how well/poorly games control as well as how tight or loose some can be. Also yeah maybe I am reading too much into what ADC said, but ah well. I can just blame it all on him then. :>

[ADC]

I can just blame it all on him then. :>
Sure, blame it on me. (Great song, that — and the Unwritten Law GH set is pretty awesome, by the way.) When you try to shoot the dog and all you hit is ducks, you remember what I wrote!

I don't know if it's that big of a deal; just telling you what I know. I don't know how different screen sizes impact the sensor bar. I just noticed that it seems inaccurate from a distance of six feet on my big TV, while it didn't seem that way on my old Sony.

[jecca-neko]

Hmmm...

Super Mario World - Have on GBA.
Metroid - Decent buy for others, not for me.
Baseball - A waste of money.
Kirby's Adventure - Cute. Maybe. :D
Pilot Wings - Nope
Wild Gunman - Nope
Urban Champion - Uh uh
Punch Out - This isn't the version with Mike Tyson, IIRC, so this makes me sad.
Virtual Wrestling - Heck no.
Kid Icarus - Possibly.
Hogan's Alley - No.
Duck Hunt - YAY! :D
Comix Zone - Have on both Sonic Mega Collection Plus and Sega Genesis Collection.
Biohazard Battle - No.
Gain Ground - Have on Sega Genesis Collection.
Bonanza Bros - Ditto.
Streets of Rage - WANT!

That's my official status on these games. Of course, I have yet to buy classic controllers or any VC games, so eventually I'll be buying several good games.

[ADC]

You know which game I'd like to see on the VC? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. The platform-action game Konami put out before the arcade games became so popular. That game's totally worth 500 Wii points.

[Suwako Moriya]

Speaking of TMNT, this youtube (http://youtube.com/watch?v=S_AycBr4GWE) video of the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for NES should be of interest. It's a fast forward through parts of the game and then it shows the final battle. It's both funny and depressing... For the record I never beat the game because it was a rigged piece of crap with terrible control, but to see how pathetic the final boss is. It's enough to make one cry or maybe not.

[untoldsorrow]

Yeah, TMNT 1 for NES was kinda hard, especially as a kid...those damn swimming disarming bombs levels got on my nerves!! I would love Turtles in Time, well worth the money, heck all of the TMNT games are.

[Jarred]

Punch Out - This isn't the version with Mike Tyson, IIRC, so this makes me sad.

Probably Mr. Dream (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Punch-Out%21%21_boxers#Mr._Dream), since legally they can't use Mike Tyson's name or likeness anymore. He fights the exact same though.

I'm buyin' it, but I'm still going to curse Nintendo for teasing me again without releasing a full-fledged Wii Punch Out. :D

[FigNewton]

The pointer would come from the emulator drawing it on the screen, not from any modifications of the ROM data. Because the emulator knows what the Duck Hunt ROM is putting on your TV screen and where your wiimote is pointing, it can report back that "the Zapper hits" or "the Zapper misses" and the ROM doesn't know the difference.

That's how PC emulators solve the problem now. But it'll likely feel a lot more authentic with the wiimote than with a mouse.

Well that's true. I admit my thinking was a little backwards on that.

[FigNewton]

Don't worry, ADC's just being weird as usual :D

Seriously though, personally my sensor bar is on the top of my TV and unless I'm too close, it works fine. Different games have different sensitivity though. For instance, Zelda reacts very quickly to the remote being pointed, whereas with Necro-Nesia, it feels a bit more sluggish.

No he's not, he's exactly right. :P Though I'd say it's not just a matter of vertical accuracy, but also moving horizontal accuracy decreases the more closer you get to the edges of the screen as well. It's not a matter of sensitivity, but really where you are pointing.

This probably sounds like more of a criticism of the machine than I intend it to be. I love the Wii and love everything I've played on it so far (though I have quiblles with control decisions made in MUA), and really have had no issues whatsoever with the relative pointing technology used in the Wiimote interface. I just don't think it's appropriate for light gun games.

For point and click applications, it's fine. A mouse is a relative pointer, and point and click is what it's made for. You move the device to move a pointer on screen. Great for FPS, great for the stuff in Zelda, great for tons of stuff where you have a pointer to rely on.

But light gun games aren't made for pointers. They are made to challenge you to actually aim at something on the screen as you would be aiming a gun. No cursors involved. Unfortunately the Wiimote interface, as designed currently, isn't capable of that beyond very idealized circumstances - might work well on certain tv sizes at certain distance, but not for a wide range of such.

[Mateo_home]

In the TMNT game, I remember I got asa far in the last room in the technodrome. I could never get past those stupid astronaut enemies or whatever they were. After seeing that with Shredder, I was expecting more of a challange.

So you just use the Rocksteady strategy. :P

[Azumangaman]

Speaking of TMNT, this youtube (http://youtube.com/watch?v=S_AycBr4GWE) video of the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for NES should be of interest. It's a fast forward through parts of the game and then it shows the final battle. It's both funny and depressing... For the record I never beat the game because it was a rigged piece of crap with terrible control, but to see how pathetic the final boss is. It's enough to make one cry or maybe not.

I was rolling on the floor after that. VERY funny.
Actually, I picked up a TMNT fighting game a few months ago for the SNES. It's freaking sweet.

[Suwako Moriya]

Actually, I picked up a TMNT fighting game a few months ago for the SNES. It's freaking sweet.

Ah you're probably talking about Tournament Fighters. I actually played that myself years ago. I'm not sure if I'd consider it great or anything, but at the time it was fun to mess around with the game. Still it's been a long time since I played it.

[Azumangaman]

Actually, I picked up a TMNT fighting game a few months ago for the SNES. It's freaking sweet.

Ah you're probably talking about Tournament Fighters. I actually played that myself years ago. I'm not sure if I'd consider it great or anything, but at the time it was fun to mess around with the game. Still it's been a long time since I played it.

Yep, I sure am. I actually don't know why I said "Freaking sweet" really, maybe I just had a "ZOMG, A FRIGGIN TMNT FIGHTING GAME" joy rush to my head. It's pretty hard if I say so myself.
Actually, while we're on TMNT, theres was a TMNT Arcade game that was so incredibly fun...anyone know what the games called and if it's on one of the retro systems? (I have SNES, so I hope it's on that).

[dunno001]

Actually, I picked up a TMNT fighting game a few months ago for the SNES. It's freaking sweet.

Ah you're probably talking about Tournament Fighters. I actually played that myself years ago. I'm not sure if I'd consider it great or anything, but at the time it was fun to mess around with the game. Still it's been a long time since I played it.

Yep, I sure am. I actually don't know why I said "Freaking sweet" really, maybe I just had a "ZOMG, A FRIGGIN TMNT FIGHTING GAME" joy rush to my head. It's pretty hard if I say so myself.
Actually, while we're on TMNT, theres was a TMNT Arcade game that was so incredibly fun...anyone know what the games called and if it's on one of the retro systems? (I have SNES, so I hope it's on that).

You're thinking of TMNT 2: The Arcade Game, where they added 3 levels to the home version? It's an NES game, Turtles didn't get to SNES until Turtles in Time (4). I remember that game, though, I was at a friends house where we both beat it, then we had to have pizza for lunch.

[Leon_Belmont]

Actually, I picked up a TMNT fighting game a few months ago for the SNES. It's freaking sweet.

Ah you're probably talking about Tournament Fighters. I actually played that myself years ago. I'm not sure if I'd consider it great or anything, but at the time it was fun to mess around with the game. Still it's been a long time since I played it.

Yep, I sure am. I actually don't know why I said "Freaking sweet" really, maybe I just had a "ZOMG, A FRIGGIN TMNT FIGHTING GAME" joy rush to my head. It's pretty hard if I say so myself.
Actually, while we're on TMNT, theres was a TMNT Arcade game that was so incredibly fun...anyone know what the games called and if it's on one of the retro systems? (I have SNES, so I hope it's on that).

You're thinking of TMNT 2: The Arcade Game, where they added 3 levels to the home version? It's an NES game, Turtles didn't get to SNES until Turtles in Time (4). I remember that game, though, I was at a friends house where we both beat it, then we had to have pizza for lunch.

The TMNT Arcade (no 2 in the title at the time), was so much better than its crappy Nintendo release (named "2"). Good god I loved that arcade. That was the shit.

Ok, considering this is a Nintendo version we were talking about, the port wasn't TOO bad. I still remember getting grounded and my dad tossing the game. But good times were had.

[GetterBeam]

Bah, forget the 16-bit elitists...the REAL fun was to be had in TMNT: Tournament Fighters for the NES! Casey Jones and Firefighter turned Dragon FTW...and Shredder's 100 Crack Fist of the Technodrome.

[ilmaestro]

No way Heavenly Sword or God of War II hit Q1.

[Suwako Moriya]

Ah yeah that's right. If I remember right TMNT: Tournament Fighters was released for the NES, Genesis, and SNES. However each had stuff unique to it. Although honestly I only played the SNES version myself. Granted I can't say if that's an intelligence choice or a severe crime. :sd:

[untoldsorrow]

Ah yeah that's right. If I remember right TMNT: Tournament Fighters was released for the NES, Genesis, and SNES. However each had stuff unique to it. Although honestly I only played the SNES version myself. Granted I can't say if that's an intelligence choice or a severe crime. :sd:

I had a blast with that game. It was deep enough...when i was young, lol. Still would pick this one up real quick if it ever gets release for Wii VC.

[GetterBeam]

Genesis and SNES version of TMNT: TF were by and large similar in terms of just about everything. The Genesis version has more EVIL, CHEAP, CHEATING AI then SFII CE's Insta-Guile could ever DREAM OF.

NES version though....TOTALLY different. I'd be more inclined to think it came out well before the 16 bit iterations. Roster was the 4 Turtles, Casey Jones, The Dragon, and Shredder himself. You fought through the other characters in a rough order...with Casey Jones and The Dragon being kinda like sub-bosses prior to Shredder. (who could all be good but fair) then there'd be bonus stages where you'd have to break through a bunch of Shogun'esque walls and such.

The games had some good music to it...ESPECIALLY for the final fight with Shredder's stage. I used to TRY to drag the fight out as long as I could since the music was soo good back then.

Seriously, just ROM hunt it(Easy) and be done with it...game was a blast if a bit simplistic in terms of depth once ya get the system down pat. Odds of finding this one to buy would surely be slim as anything, especially as a blind buy, and I think the VC will not get this oen due to the status as a licensed property at the time.

[SpaceButler]

Accord to this on Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/gaming/wii/best-buy-holding-wiis-for-sunday-229187.php) anyone looking for a Wii should head down to Best Buy on Sunday as every store should have 15 to 45 in stock.

That's pretty sweet if it's true, and I don't see why it wouldn't be true. They did the same thing with PS3's...just too bad nobody wanted those. :( But anyways if you don't have a Wii Go get one now! :D

[GHardin]

But anyways if you don't have a Wii Go get one now! :D

Easier said than done...people go apeshit at the opportunity, of which there might be a bit of a crowd...though here in Texas, that's debatable with the wonder mid-20s temperature we have going on... :sd:

I found mine by pure accident...just walked in, and they were just putting them out. :P

But yeah, good luck to all! :)

[Johnny]

No way Heavenly Sword or God of War II hit Q1.

They've both been confirmed numerous times. Heavenly Sword may slip by a few weeks but GoW II is 100% coming out Q1 in the US.

[Chacranajxy]

Final Fantasy I and II coming to PSP:

http://www.psphyper.com/psp/final-fantasy-i-ii-coming-to-the-psp/

[Suwako Moriya]

Final Fantasy I and II coming to PSP:

If Square-Enix is going to be this port happy when it comes to Final Fantasy, you'd think they'd at least go a step further. By that I mean perhaps port FF7, FF8, and FF9 to the PSP. I'm sure now that several will be expecting PSP ports of 4-6. Which could cause some to hesitate buying the GBA versions or maybe even sell them.

Honestly if you ask me Square-Enix should do something more special for the anniversary than a port/remake. Still it's like I said earlier. Square-Enix has become so focused on FF, they'd have a lot trouble coming up with anything truly special for the anniversary. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but more that I was hoping it would be more special.

If I had my way, I would have made a new entry in the series that borrowed characters from past entries. Sort of like a melting pot. Yeah I know that sounds stupid, but any excuse to have Relm and Yuffie in the same game. Then again knowing my luck, I'd find none of my favorites would make it in.

[Johnny]

Final Fantasy I and II coming to PSP:

http://www.psphyper.com/psp/final-fantasy-i-ii-coming-to-the-psp/

Good news I guess but SE, please leave Final Fantasy the fuck alone. Give us a PS3 remake of VII and let us savour the wait for XIII and vsXIII but please stop with the endless FF milking!

[PhilipReuben]

Final Fantasy I and II coming to PSP:

http://www.psphyper.com/psp/final-fantasy-i-ii-coming-to-the-psp/

:roll:

Just what everyone really needed, yet another version of these two games.

[Suwako Moriya]

but please stop with the endless FF milking!

Actually some would consider a remake of any of the FFs including FF7 to be milking. However at least a remake of FF7 would be a change of pace. I honestly don't care if Square Enix milks FF. They can port this FF, remake that FF, or heck make new games created to whichever FF.

It's all fine with me, but honestly they shouldn't be so half-assed about it. They've made FF1 through FF6 portable? Then do the same thing for FF7 through FF9 too. That's the most obvious example I can give. Heck until FF3 DS finally came out, I was starting to think Square-Enix hated that game...

Also I want them to give their other series a chance to shine. It's like they've lose confidence in anything not named Final Fantasy. Then again maybe we the fanbase are to blame. After all we're the ones that figuratively do the following... Which is play an entry from Square-Enix not named Final Fantasy and then cut ourselves when we realize it's actually not an FF clone.

Don't get me wrong I love Square-Enix over all, but even I have to put my foot down on this issue. Again I'm not so much angry that the milking. I'm angry at the half-assed nature of it. I'm angry at the lack of variety in the milking. I'm also angry at them figuratively ignoring nearly everything else they have.

[Chacranajxy]

Final Fantasy I and II coming to PSP:

http://www.psphyper.com/psp/final-fantasy-i-ii-coming-to-the-psp/

:roll:

Just what everyone really needed, yet another version of these two games.

It would've been nice to see something better like...I dunno... Chrono Trigger. I'd actually care if we were getting an ultimate version of that.

[Suwako Moriya]

It would've been nice to see something better like...I dunno... Chrono Trigger.

The chances of that are sadly low given how dead the series is the minds of Square-Enix. According to some the creator of the series has no interest in making a new one. That lack of interest probably extends to even porting/remaking Trigger. It's just fun how they had the whole Chrono Break/Brake thing to get people's hopes up and then bam they decide they no longer care.

[Johnny]

This was announced a while back, but since Kotaku have done a feature on it, it's a nice place to link to.
Anyway, the DS is getting it's own figure skating game (http://kotaku.com/gaming/ds/hooray-a-ds-figure-skating-game-229169.php) (which ominously enough is released on my birthday...).
So, who else is gonna be all over this once it's released?

[Chacranajxy]

This was announced a while back, but since Kotaku have done a feature on it, it's a nice place to link to.
Anyway, the DS is getting it's own figure skating game (http://kotaku.com/gaming/ds/hooray-a-ds-figure-skating-game-229169.php) (which ominously enough is released on my birthday...).
So, who else is gonna be all over this once it's released?

*looks at screenshots*

Oh, for God's sake, Johnny.

[Johnny]

This was announced a while back, but since Kotaku have done a feature on it, it's a nice place to link to.
Anyway, the DS is getting it's own figure skating game (http://kotaku.com/gaming/ds/hooray-a-ds-figure-skating-game-229169.php) (which ominously enough is released on my birthday...).
So, who else is gonna be all over this once it's released?

*looks at screenshots*

Oh, for God's sake, Johnny.


Haha, come on, you know what I'm like when it comes to bizarre imports, especially if they're on the DS :D

(and admit it, you do kinda want to play it)

[ADC]

It would've been nice to see something better like...I dunno... Chrono Trigger.
The chances of that are sadly low given how dead the series is the minds of Square-Enix. According to some the creator of the series has no interest in making a new one. That lack of interest probably extends to even porting/remaking Trigger. It's just fun how they had the whole Chrono Break/Brake thing to get people's hopes up and then bam they decide they no longer care.
I had hoped they'd make a new Chrono game just to apologize for putting us through the horror that is Chrono Cross. Great music, awful game. Still, I wish they did care enough to bring Chrono Trigger up to date and give the FF remakes a bit of a rest. I mean, based on their previous strategy, it looks like they're going to port all of the classic FFs to the PSP and just start with FFs 1 & 2. Well! Do I dip again? Or will I be satisfied with the GBA games? Meanwhile, Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana (the other two games in the Holy Trinity with FF6 and Mario RPG) not only don't get remastered but aren't even in the pipeline for Virtual Console.Any Douglas Adams fan will tell you, just because the title implies there will be three doesn't make it so. The Hitchhiker's Trilogy is five books and a short story.

Now, I would very much like to see FFs 7–9 get revamped. Playstation-era 3D graphics have not aged well, and these three games look like shit by today's standards. If I were Square Enix' curator of the archives and had the power to choose their platform, I'd go with the Wii, knowing that the redevelopment cost would be lower than the $40 million or so each cost back in the day and would probably still cost on the PS3 — but as a fan, I'm satisfied regardless of platform so long as they get the higher resolutions and improved textures and lighting that even the least of the platform options (PSP) can provide. I just wish they'd get on with it.

Still, the Final Fantasy 20th Anniversary goes on all this year, so there's plenty of time for them to announce what they will. It likely means that we'll be waiting on Chrono Trigger until 2008, but there you are. I will, however, be a bit put out if I thump down my $30 on February 6 for Final Fantasy VI Advance and open the AOD Forums on February 7 to find that FF6 is getting a PSP makeover.

[ADC]

Anyway, the DS is getting it's own figure skating game (http://kotaku.com/gaming/ds/hooray-a-ds-figure-skating-game-229169.php)
I think Yuzu looked at the screen caps and got a … nosebleed.

Not my thing, really, figure skating. Now, you make a football game (American, Australian, Classic, doesn't matter) with cute girls in short skirts and you've really got something.

Oh, forgot to mention in the previous tome: What happened to the Dragon Quest 20th Anniversary? They didn't make much of a deal over that.

[Chacranajxy]

EGMs rumor section said that Squeenix had a big year coming up in 2007 on the PSP, so maybe there is more on the way. Still, the only FF's I'd like to see ported over to the PSP would be the PS1 games... though really, 8 and 9 are debatable. Those games still hold up graphically... they look a little rough, but not too bad. A VII remake would be ideal of course. But really, Square's ignoring that they've got some games much better than Final Fantasy I and II... hell, most of their catalog is probably better than those two. What about a Xenogears remake? Vagrant Story? I guarantee you, a whole swarm of fanboys would shit themselves if something like Xenogears was ported to the PSP. Just thinking of the coverart makes me want to buy it. Final Fantasy I and II though? Not system sellers by any means. Would I pick 'em up? Probably, but just because I want to have the best versions of the games I own. But I would much rather see something that... y'know, makes me happy I have a PSP.

[Suwako Moriya]

Speaking of Final Fantasy in general. See this link here (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138366). It's to a forum page and the main thing of interest is the talk about FFT for the PSP.

"New job: Dark Knight, New character: Bathier from FF12. Not just a guest character, follows Ramza in the story."

Make of that what you will. Actually to be honest in regards to FF1 and FF2, you'd think they could give them the FF3DS treatment. I mean take FF1 for example. Instead of just better graphics, bonus dungeon, and a switch to the standard MP system, they could do the following.

1. Make the light warriors actual characters. They will of course need to make sure at least one is actually female. Because I say so! They can still keep in the ideal of choose class at start and stick with it until the upgrade. They just need to make sure each character looks a bit different.

2. Perhaps expand on the class choices a bit. For example they could have it so you can choose to be an Evoker at the start and later upgrade to Summoner.

3. Expand the story a bit. I'm not expecting a heavy story, but even being upgraded to a light story would be better than nothing. Yes I mean what I said. A light story would be an upgrade.

In other words my point is let's see Square-Enix actually give FF1 a real make over. In the case of 4-6 they had an excuse and maybe in the case of 2. However in the case of 1 they shouldn't hold back any longer. Yeah so I'm crazy here, but I don't care.

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"New job: Dark Knight, New character: Bathier from FF12. Not just a guest character, follows Ramza in the story."

Make of that what you will. Actually to be honest in regards to FF1 and FF2, you'd think they could give them the FF3DS treatment. I mean take FF1 for example. Instead of just better graphics, bonus dungeon, and a switch to the standard MP system, they could do the following.
That's too cool. Balthier will be awesome in FFT.

As to the second point, may I be the first to say that FF3DS isn't a very pretty game. In the realm of 3D FFs, it falls somewhere between FF7 and FF8 in terms of graphic detail, which isn't so good. They could have maintained a 2D graphics design and made it look a whole ton better, just as they've done with the GBA ports but even moreso. I know it's easier nowadays to make 3D character models just because you only have to make the character once (per outfit) rather than however many times (eight per outfit for an eight-direction game, times however many sizes if you want closeups) in 2D, but if the platform can't make 3D look great, I think you're still better served with 2D.

And I'll tell you, the best-looking Playstation games were Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and Megaman X4. That's a bit ironic, considering Sony were so butt-hurt by Konami's and Capcom's decisions to make 2D games on their 3D "powerhouse."

[Chacranajxy]

"New job: Dark Knight, New character: Bathier from FF12. Not just a guest character, follows Ramza in the story."

Make of that what you will. Actually to be honest in regards to FF1 and FF2, you'd think they could give them the FF3DS treatment. I mean take FF1 for example. Instead of just better graphics, bonus dungeon, and a switch to the standard MP system, they could do the following.
That's too cool. Balthier will be awesome in FFT.

As to the second point, may I be the first to say that FF3DS isn't a very pretty game. In the realm of 3D FFs, it falls somewhere between FF7 and FF8 in terms of graphic detail, which isn't so good. They could have maintained a 2D graphics design and made it look a whole ton better, just as they've done with the GBA ports but even moreso. I know it's easier nowadays to make 3D character models just because you only have to make the character once (per outfit) rather than however many times (eight per outfit for an eight-direction game, times however many sizes if you want closeups) in 2D, but if the platform can't make 3D look great, I think you're still better served with 2D.

And I'll tell you, the best-looking Playstation games were Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and Megaman X4. That's a bit ironic, considering Sony were so butt-hurt by Konami's and Capcom's decisions to make 2D games on their 3D "powerhouse."

Yeah, the 2D games on the PS1 definitely looked better than the crude 3D games that companies were so insistant on putting out. As for FFIII DS... have to agree with you. I'd rather see high res sprites in place of the ugly-ish polygonal characters.

Final Fantasy Tactics' remake on the PSP though... Balthier = win. They'll probably also do a better translation this time rather than running the game through Babelfish, so that'll be good too.

[Suwako Moriya]

As to the second point, may I be the first to say that FF3DS isn't a very pretty game.

Perhaps, but I think the game looks okay. Note I said okay as opposed to amazing or pretty. I guess it just didn't bother me for some reason. Maybe I was more concerned with finally playing the game in a legit form. Still the issue wasn't in terms of how FF3DS looks, but what they did with it. Which was to actually improve the original and not just slap a new paint job on it.

[Suwako Moriya]

I think Yuzu looked at the screen caps and got a … nosebleed.

Figures you'd say that. Well it does have a cutesy feel to it. Although I'm not sure if I'd actually play it myself. Sure cute girls are tempting, but still cute girls aside, I have a feeling I would not be into that type of game.

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Perhaps, but I think the game looks okay. Note I said okay as opposed to amazing or pretty. I guess it just didn't bother me for some reason. Maybe I was more concerned with finally playing the game in a legit form. Still the issue wasn't in terms of how FF3DS looks, but what they did with it. Which was to actually improve the original and not just slap a new paint job on it.
I'm a bit conflicted regarding this point for one reason in particular: I still like the "blank slate" characters you could have on the older games (FFs 1, 3; DQ3; FFLs), and one of the big "improvements" S-E made to FF3 was to give the characters more backstory. In the modern era, you can't have blank slate characters. That means you have to accept the story pretty much as it is, and you can't pretend you and your friends are the Light Warriors or whomever. That's kind of a bummer.

When he was six, he believed that the moon overhead followed him
By nine, he deciphered the illusion, trading magic for fact, no trade-backs
So this is what it's like to be an adult?
If he only knew now what he knew then
— Pearl Jam / I'm open

[GetterBeam]

Perhaps early to say, but at this point the only thing SE could do to FF1 to make me truly care again would be to remake it in a boosted Dragon Quest: Swords style.

I can't be the only one to see how an overhaul to FF1 in that general direction could be badass incarnate?

[Jarred]

So I don't know how many of you are interested in film-noir/hard-boiled detective mystery game Hotel Dusk coming out next week for the DS, I know I am, but it got pretty damn good scores in Famitsu.

Wish Room: Tenshi no Kioku [Hotel Dusk: Room 215] (NDS, Nintendo): 9 / 7 / 9 / 8 - (33/40)

The only American rag who has reviewed this title is EGM, which gave it 8/8/10.

Hmm, which will I play first: Phoenix Wright 2 or Hotel Dusk? :nervous:

[SpaceButler]

...just to apologize for putting us through the horror that is Chrono Cross. Great music, awful game.

First FFX, now your trashing Chrono Cross? Your post has made me sad. Chrono Cross rocks. :(

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First FFX, now your trashing Chrono Cross? Your post has made me sad. Chrono Cross rocks. :(
I was brought up to tell the truth. What else would you have me do? :P

Now, if you want some more controversial opinions to really crush your spirit, here we go:

• Vagrant Story is, quite simply, the ugliest game ever made by any company. Even Pong looks better. I would support a PS3 remaster just to get Square-quality graphics. (The rest of the game was mediocre.)
• Parasite Eve rocks the hizz-ouse. Parasite Evil Eve 2, not so much.
• Xenogears would have been an absolutely incredible game if they'd bothered to finish it.
• Ultimately, the best-looking Square/Enix games on the PSX were Brave Fencer Musashi and SaGa Frontier II. Honorable mention: Legend of Mana, which otherwise double-barrel sucked.
• Yes, I am a Square Enix whore.

See, it's easy to punk on games like The Bouncer (which was barely even a game, come to that). There's no challenge. But when I tell you that Brave Fencer Musashi is the best 3D Zelda game ever, I only say it because it's true.
:)

[SpaceButler]

• Parasite Eve rocks the hizz-ouse. Parasite Evil Eve 2, not so much.
• Xenogears would have been an absolutely incredible game if they'd bothered to finish it.

I agree with you on these two, but you will burn in hell for that Vagrant Story comment!

[Chacranajxy]

• Parasite Eve rocks the hizz-ouse. Parasite Evil Eve 2, not so much.
• Xenogears would have been an absolutely incredible game if they'd bothered to finish it.

I agree with you on these two, but you will burn in hell for that Vagrant Story comment!

He's already burning in hell for that Xenogears comment. Since you didn't correct him, you burn, too. Heathens.

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• Parasite Eve rocks the hizz-ouse. Parasite Evil Eve 2, not so much.
• Xenogears would have been an absolutely incredible game if they'd bothered to finish it.
I agree with you on these two, but you will burn in hell for that Vagrant Story comment!
He's already burning in hell for that Xenogears comment. Since you didn't correct him, you burn, too. Heathens.
You go to Heaven, then. We're going to have a blast in Hell while you're playing your harp with one hand and picking your seat with the other, bored to tears. :D

Because this is the point they could have made in Xenogears if they'd wanted: Heaven is a Tchaikovsky recital — beautiful, enjoyable at times, but ultimately kind of boring. Hell is a Flogging Molly concert, except that the whiskey's on fire! :evil:

[SpaceButler]

He's already burning in hell for that Xenogears comment. Since you didn't correct him, you burn, too. Heathens.

Don't get me wrong, I love me some Xenogears. It's just that, if they would have been able to do the second disc properly, there is a chance that it would be my fav game ever, but instead it comes in number four on my top five right behind (#1)EarthBound, (#2)FFVII and (#3)FFVI. It still beats out (#5)Chrono Trigger and some other really great games for my number four slot.

[jecca-neko]

So I don't know how many of you are interested in film-noir/hard-boiled detective mystery game Hotel Dusk coming out next week for the DS, I know I am, but it got pretty damn good scores in Famitsu.

Wish Room: Tenshi no Kioku [Hotel Dusk: Room 215] (NDS, Nintendo): 9 / 7 / 9 / 8 - (33/40)

The only American rag who has reviewed this title is EGM, which gave it 8/8/10.

Hmm, which will I play first: Phoenix Wright 2 or Hotel Dusk? :nervous:

I've been looking forward to Hotel Dusk ever since it was initially announced. I thought Trace Memory, while admittedly short, was severely underrated. Cing did an amazing job coming up with puzzles that took advantage of the DS' capabilities. I figured Hotel Dusk would be as good or better.

[Fieri]

So I don't know how many of you are interested in film-noir/hard-boiled detective mystery game Hotel Dusk coming out next week for the DS, I know I am, but it got pretty damn good scores in Famitsu.

Wish Room: Tenshi no Kioku [Hotel Dusk: Room 215] (NDS, Nintendo): 9 / 7 / 9 / 8 - (33/40)

The only American rag who has reviewed this title is EGM, which gave it 8/8/10.

Hmm, which will I play first: Phoenix Wright 2 or Hotel Dusk? :nervous:


Preordered Hotel Dusk and already played through Phoenix Wright 2. :neko:

[Azumangaman]

So I don't know how many of you are interested in film-noir/hard-boiled detective mystery game Hotel Dusk coming out next week for the DS, I know I am, but it got pretty damn good scores in Famitsu.

Wish Room: Tenshi no Kioku [Hotel Dusk: Room 215] (NDS, Nintendo): 9 / 7 / 9 / 8 - (33/40)

The only American rag who has reviewed this title is EGM, which gave it 8/8/10.

Hmm, which will I play first: Phoenix Wright 2 or Hotel Dusk? :nervous:


Preordered Hotel Dusk and already played through Phoenix Wright 2. :neko:

But...it just came out yesterday!

<--Has owned PW1 for over a year and is like halfway through it.

[Fieri]

So I don't know how many of you are interested in film-noir/hard-boiled detective mystery game Hotel Dusk coming out next week for the DS, I know I am, but it got pretty damn good scores in Famitsu.

Wish Room: Tenshi no Kioku [Hotel Dusk: Room 215] (NDS, Nintendo): 9 / 7 / 9 / 8 - (33/40)

The only American rag who has reviewed this title is EGM, which gave it 8/8/10.

Hmm, which will I play first: Phoenix Wright 2 or Hotel Dusk? :nervous:


Preordered Hotel Dusk and already played through Phoenix Wright 2. :neko:

But...it just came out yesterday!

<--Has owned PW1 for over a year and is like halfway through it.


Not the version I have. ;) I have the Japanese version (which includes the English version). I was even curious as to how the Japanese version played so I went thru part of the first case. If only I could read as fast too! Or rather, I need to study a lot more kanji! I actually just finished the first one as well and went straight into the second one, just to finish the game before my bf who really likes the game. ;)

[Suwako Moriya]

Initial anger over the underwhelming announcement for the anniversary of the series aside, I have to be fair in one regard. While FF1 has been ported way too much it still remains the first game in the series. Thus it is the one that's actually truly celebrating the specific anniversary. Which may be why they focused on it. Of course that wouldn't exactly explain FF2 even though it's nearly as old. It still doesn't change the fact I was hoping for something more special.

[Chacranajxy]

Initial anger over the underwhelming announcement for the anniversary of the series aside, I have to be fair in one regard. While FF1 has been ported way too much it still remains the first game in the series. Thus it is the one that's actually truly celebrating the specific anniversary. Which may be why they focused on it. Of course that wouldn't exactly explain FF2 even though it's nearly as old. It still doesn't change the fact I was hoping for something more special.

It's like celebrating the birthday of someone you don't really care about, except there's no cake. And Square's going to ask $40 to attend the party. What assholes.

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Initial anger over the underwhelming announcement for the anniversary of the series aside, I have to be fair in one regard. While FF1 has been ported way too much it still remains the first game in the series. Thus it is the one that's actually truly celebrating the specific anniversary. Which may be why they focused on it. Of course that wouldn't exactly explain FF2 even though it's nearly as old. It still doesn't change the fact I was hoping for something more special.
Just so's everybody knows, there's another anniversary coming up.

• January 31, 1997: Final Fantasy VII drops in Japan
• September 7, 1997: Final Fantasy VII drops in the States

So I think all of us who are underwhelmed by this FF1+2/psp release might want to untwist our knickers and see what's to come. Johnny's previous guess of FF7/ps3 probably is the sock-rocker. (Though I wouldn't mind if they made it FF7/wii, it seems a remote possibility, as Sony will probably have done something behind the scenes to keep it a Sony exclusive.)

[Chacranajxy]

Initial anger over the underwhelming announcement for the anniversary of the series aside, I have to be fair in one regard. While FF1 has been ported way too much it still remains the first game in the series. Thus it is the one that's actually truly celebrating the specific anniversary. Which may be why they focused on it. Of course that wouldn't exactly explain FF2 even though it's nearly as old. It still doesn't change the fact I was hoping for something more special.
Just so's everybody knows, there's another anniversary coming up.

• January 31, 1997: Final Fantasy VII drops in Japan
• September 7, 1997: Final Fantasy VII drops in the States

So I think all of us who are underwhelmed by this FF1+2/psp release might want to untwist our knickers and see what's to come. Johnny's previous guess of FF7/ps3 probably is the sock-rocker. (Though I wouldn't mind if they made it FF7/wii, it seems a remote possibility, as Sony will probably have done something behind the scenes to keep it a Sony exclusive.)


A FFVII remake on the Wii would be stupid. It's a menu-based RPG. Having the Wiimote would add literally... nothing to the game. The PS3 would... well, you all saw the tech demo.

[SpaceButler]

...Though I wouldn't mind if they made it FF7/wii...

FFVII Remake. Only on Xbox 360.

I'd love to see that on the box.