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Chris Beveridge
05-17-2007, 09:33 AM
http://www.animeondvd.com/images/boxart/blacklagoon1.jpg Review (http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/6087.php)

Released By: Geneon Entertainment (USA), Inc.
MSRP: $29.98/39.98
Running time: 100 minutes
Aspect Ratio: 1.78:1 Anamorphic Widescreen
Resolution: 480i/p (mixed/unknown)
Encoded With: MPEG-2
Release Date: 05/22/2007
Review Date: 05/17/2007
Date Announced: 12/28/2006
Region: 1 - North America
Reviewed By: Chris Beveridge

In Summary:
While I find that Black Lagoon kicks all manner of ass over these first four episodes, I also have to admit that overall it's nothing terribly original yet. It is however fun to watch, quite exciting at times and different enough from other shows that it does stand out nicely. It doesn't cringe from violence and has enough hooks to it that lets it work. Rock in particular is a great character as he avoids the trap of being wishy washy about the entire ordeal and instead just dives right into his new life. Geneon has produced a fantastic release across the board that I have hardly any issue with. Going into this series knowing nothing about it I now find myself eager for the next volume to arrive as quickly as possible. Though I've said a few times it merits being repeated, Black Lagoon simply kicks ass. Very recommended.

hikaru004
05-17-2007, 09:38 AM
Hell yeah! :D

Talyn
05-17-2007, 09:48 AM
:cry: still waiting for my copy to arrive... well the copy I want to bust open and watch on the spot atleast. I'm handing my single copy of the RE still sealed over to a friend...

ooga
05-17-2007, 10:05 AM
So you're saying that the SE edition has the actual RE disc and keepcase bundled with the steelcase?

Chris Beveridge
05-17-2007, 10:13 AM
Correct. It's shrinkwrapped together.

ooga
05-17-2007, 10:28 AM
Correct. It's shrinkwrapped together.

Great. I wish they'd do this more often with releases that have special packaging. This way I can get the extras disc and I don't miss out on the cover art of the regular edition.

ahuang
05-17-2007, 11:23 AM
Correct. It's shrinkwrapped together.

Great. I wish they'd do this more often with releases that have special packaging. This way I can get the extras disc and I don't miss out on the cover art of the regular edition.

Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)

Pyocola
05-17-2007, 11:25 AM
Sweet, Nightjar. :)

But can anyone tell me why the Japanese hate 5.1 mixes?

Chris Beveridge
05-17-2007, 11:28 AM
Sweet, Nightjar. :)

But can anyone tell me why the Japanese hate 5.1 mixes?

I wish I knew. They do have some fantastic ones but when it comes to TV series and the short windows they have to work with they skimp on the 5.1 mix. Black Lagoon just makes out so much better with the 5.1 mix and in the bass in particular that it changes how the show feels.

Relwarc
05-17-2007, 12:02 PM
This sounds great. I'll definitely be checking this series out. One question, though, by an artbox junkie: is the steelcase packaging a box to hold the rest of the series? Or does that come later?

Chris Beveridge
05-17-2007, 12:03 PM
The steelcase holds the first season; 4 slots to hold discs (3 discs of episodes and the 1 disc of extras). A similar style will be used for the Second Barrage season.

Vicserr
05-17-2007, 12:05 PM
Sweet, Nightjar. :)

But can anyone tell me why the Japanese hate 5.1 mixes?

I wish I knew. They do have some fantastic ones but when it comes to TV series and the short windows they have to work with they skimp on the 5.1 mix. Black Lagoon just makes out so much better with the 5.1 mix and in the bass in particular that it changes how the show feels.



And I can't imagine someone watching Black Lagoon with a full blast 5.1 mix at whatever God-Forsaken hour the show was on tv (I think it was on an after midnight spot...) :P

Chris Beveridge
05-17-2007, 12:16 PM
Try, but just like here I'm sure there's a lot of time-shifting going on. It's very rare that I watch any prime-time or late night shows during those times. Hell, Robot Chicken is a midnight show yet I watch it during the day while on the treadmill.

Suko-chan
05-17-2007, 03:25 PM
Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)
I really hope you're listening to the concerns of stickers on the tins, too. :(

Dicrel Seijin
05-17-2007, 03:27 PM
I was rather tepid about this release, but the review has piqued my interest.

As mentioned in the review, the eps. are not terribly original yet, so my question is does it have some originality in the latter part of the season? The title would then go to a definite buy for me.

gryffinseye
05-17-2007, 03:30 PM
Well put, Chris. I can hardly wait to have my DVD copy in my hands. Have been waiting for this DVD release for a long time. Although I seldom watch dubs, I am looking forward to hearing this one.

Just curious, though, with the violence and language content, what kind of censorship rating does it get over in the US?

ooga
05-17-2007, 03:31 PM
Correct. It's shrinkwrapped together.

Great. I wish they'd do this more often with releases that have special packaging. This way I can get the extras disc and I don't miss out on the cover art of the regular edition.

Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)

Then listen to this: release more Lupin TV . ;)

hikaru004
05-17-2007, 03:32 PM
Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)
I really hope you're listening to the concerns of stickers on the tins, too. :(


You mean that you didn't have fun imitating Revy and using all those expletives as you were taking off the sticker only to have shreads of remnants and sticky glue remains to deal with. Thereby, causing you to say more expletives aimed at a certain distributor. ;) :P :D

karen0586
05-17-2007, 03:32 PM
:cry: still waiting for my copy to arrive... well the copy I want to bust open and watch on the spot atleast. I'm handing my single copy of the RE still sealed over to a friend...

I can't wait to see this show either! That's it, I'm buying the rest of the singles that have been solicited when the next Geneon TRSI sale comes around. I'll be waiting with you Retributionzero, and crossing my fingers that today's packages to you contain your copy :) . You've been anticipating this arrival for some time...

Fencedude
05-17-2007, 03:33 PM
Just curious, though, with the violence and language content, what kind of censorship rating does it get over in the US?

I'm assuming a TV-M or whatever Geneon uses, I forget. Not that it really matters for anything.

hikaru004
05-17-2007, 03:40 PM
Well put, Chris. I can hardly wait to have my DVD copy in my hands. Have been waiting for this DVD release for a long time. Although I seldom watch dubs, I am looking forward to hearing this one.

Just curious, though, with the violence and language content, what kind of censorship rating does it get over in the US?

It's rated 16+.

Hellsing Ultimate is more violent than this title and that's HU's rating also.

Chris Beveridge
05-17-2007, 03:41 PM
It's rated 16+

gryffinseye
05-17-2007, 03:44 PM
Well put, Chris. I can hardly wait to have my DVD copy in my hands. Have been waiting for this DVD release for a long time. Although I seldom watch dubs, I am looking forward to hearing this one.

Just curious, though, with the violence and language content, what kind of censorship rating does it get over in the US?

It's rated 16+.

Hellsing Ultimate is more violent than this title and that's HU's rating also.


Well, here I'd expect both those titles to be MA15+ (in fact, have confirmed HU is that rating), which is probably as close as we get to that rating. Technically not supposed to be sold to anyone under 15, but I'd be surprised if that's ever enforced unless the one attempting to buy it is unambiguously underage.

bctaris
05-17-2007, 03:49 PM
I also knew next to nothing about this show beyond the general setup and some quiet but unique buzz that piqued my interest. Damn fun stuff so far. It's certainly a Hollywood action piece, but some of it's in lovingly absurd homage, similar to the recent Hot Fuzz movie, but when serious a lot of it draws reference back through the whole history of Hollywood violence, back to the early days in the 1960s, even mentioning Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch by name. I was certainly hooked when Revy said that line.

I was also drawn into it because I couldn't help feeling references to similar over-the-top stories in this setting I always liked, from Joseph Wight's "Amerimanga" classic post-apocalyptic tropical adventure Twilight X to even the FPS game, Far Cry.

The writing keeps this fresh and restricts this whole thing from burning me out on the violence and grit--the characters are reasonably well-formed (and there are a lot of them to keep things complex and fun) and their chemistry really propels the show forward. I heard comparisons of this show's structure to Cowboy Bebop and I can certainly see that. I don't think it's overall as good so far as Bebop (I figure they diverge enough in overall plot to compare too much anyway), but it's certainly as fun and in fact more fun than that show was in its early episodes.

(I really want to give that DTS track I spin. I can do it, but I have to find the right time of day to enjoy it without pissing off my neighbors... But on a related note, I'm glad the dub continues to pick up some good buzz. Thanks, Chris.)

Lego
05-17-2007, 04:01 PM
I'm coming over from the other Lagoon thread, but I wanted to say thanks to Geneon for putting out a grea release. The only things that bugged me(as I said in the other thread) about the release were the big sticker took up about half of the tin case and the actual case used reminds me of a "Death Grip" case. Other than that it's a great release from Geneon and Ocean.

angelx03
05-17-2007, 04:01 PM
This series just SCREAMS to be broadcasted on Adult Swim or some other cable channel. I'm wondering whether I should take my chances on waiting for that moment or go ahead and buy the DVD.

masterpez
05-17-2007, 04:26 PM
My only gripe about this release was that we get an awesome image of Revy on the inside of the tin case.....and just the series logo on the front of the tin. :( Yeah, the same image is included on the insert, but would've been better on the tin. Other than that, great release.

Suko-chan
05-17-2007, 05:59 PM
Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)
I really hope you're listening to the concerns of stickers on the tins, too. :(


You mean that you didn't have fun imitating Revy and using all those expletives as you were taking off the sticker only to have shreads of remnants and sticky glue remains to deal with. Thereby, causing you to say more expletives aimed at a certain distributor. ;) :P :D

Exactly!!! :D

Suko-chan
05-17-2007, 06:03 PM
Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)
Then listen to this: release more Lupin TV . ;)
That's likely to fall on deaf ears...
But I'll join the chorus anyway: MORE LUPIN TV PLEASE!

inthebiz
05-17-2007, 06:45 PM
It's really satisfying to see what studios can be capable of when they don't have their hands tied behind their backs by the licensing company, and can just go for it.

It happens far too much in the entertainment industry, and the production company gets the blame; when really it's the higher ups making some key decisions that turn out to be wrong. I know it happens to all the dub studios out there too.

Great job!

MaikuB
05-17-2007, 07:15 PM
So looks like there's no Japanese 5.1 track as i remember seeing it mentioned somewhere, which was probably here at AoD (vol 2 and 3 still mention a Japanese 5.1 track).

ahuang
05-17-2007, 07:19 PM
Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)
I really hope you're listening to the concerns of stickers on the tins, too. :(


We've heard about this one too, and understand. Unfortunately, the sticker is the only place where we can put a barcode on the product, and it has to be affixed to the product itself, rather than on the shrinkwrap.

That said, we will try to find alternate options for this when volume 1 of Second Barrage rolls around. I don't like leaving gummy residue on my stuff either, so I get you guys. Hopefully we can figure something out.

hikaru004
05-17-2007, 07:35 PM
Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)
Then listen to this: release more Lupin TV . ;)
That's likely to fall on deaf ears...
But I'll join the chorus anyway: MORE LUPIN TV PLEASE!

MORE STRAWBERRY MARSHMALLOW AND HECATE-TAN PLEASE! :D

...and any title in the sig too. Uguu! :D

Legion
05-17-2007, 08:52 PM
Kickass action show with a 5.1 Ocean-Vancouver dub? DTS 5.1 at that? Color me interested. However, once again I'm annoyed that Geneon's tying the DVD extras to the LE and the RE's are bare bones. IMO, not a good practice at all and I really wish they'd knock it off. Still, In house extras from Ocean are awfully rare though so I might, might just make a rare exception... we'll see.

Vicserr
05-17-2007, 08:58 PM
Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)
I really hope you're listening to the concerns of stickers on the tins, too. :(


We've heard about this one too, and understand. Unfortunately, the sticker is the only place where we can put a barcode on the product, and it has to be affixed to the product itself, rather than on the shrinkwrap.

That said, we will try to find alternate options for this when volume 1 of Second Barrage rolls around. I don't like leaving gummy residue on my stuff either, so I get you guys. Hopefully we can figure something out.

Is it me, or nobody on this board ever heard of goo gone (http://www.googone.com/) :sd:

Suko-chan
05-17-2007, 09:12 PM
Is it me, or nobody on this board ever heard of goo gone (http://www.googone.com/) :sd:
**Raises hand**
Heard & have my bottle handy... mmmm, orangy smell. :D

Though their sticker glue doesn't have to be so strong. :sd:
All those endless stickers I pull off my Disney releases just come off without any effort.

Chris Beveridge
05-17-2007, 09:20 PM
Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)
I really hope you're listening to the concerns of stickers on the tins, too. :(


We've heard about this one too, and understand. Unfortunately, the sticker is the only place where we can put a barcode on the product, and it has to be affixed to the product itself, rather than on the shrinkwrap.

That said, we will try to find alternate options for this when volume 1 of Second Barrage rolls around. I don't like leaving gummy residue on my stuff either, so I get you guys. Hopefully we can figure something out.

Could always do it similar to some specialty box sets where it's just a card under the shrinkwrap but on the box. Sometimes they're either loose or a have a small drop of glue to hold them in place while bring shrinkwrapped. Far better than the gobs of sticky residue I still have to remove.

Lego
05-17-2007, 09:37 PM
The Hellsing Ultimate tin had it on the tin case if I remember right. It's a minor annoyance but still when you put it on your shelf thats the side that shows. I guess it shows how good of a job Geneon and Ocean did if we just have issues with the cosmetics. But yeah my only real beef is the sticker.

WTK
05-17-2007, 10:10 PM
Is it me, or nobody on this board ever heard of goo gone (http://www.googone.com/) :sd:
**Raises hand**
Heard & have my bottle handy... mmmm, orangy smell. :D

Though their sticker glue doesn't have to be so strong. :sd:
All those endless stickers I pull off my Disney releases just come off without any effort.
Same here. This stuff works like a charm. I personally don't mind the citrus smell.

akcoll99
05-17-2007, 11:08 PM
I just finished watching the first volume (thank you Best Buy for putting it out early) and I can't agree more with this statement in Chris' review:

"the series really feels like a Hollywood movie done in TV form"

I couldn't help but think that during the whole show. I could easily see it being done in live action. I absolutely LOVED this show though. I came into with little knowledge of it and it's been one of the best purchases I've made in awhile. I'm already dying for the next volume. Revy and Dutch are my two favorite characters, though Rock is becoming more tolerable as he begins to whine less and less. :)

Reikon
05-18-2007, 12:04 AM
I can't wait until my copy arrives. The show kicks so much ass. :D

Too bad the Japanese audio has such a low bit rate though.

TAS
05-18-2007, 12:06 AM
Is it me, or nobody on this board ever heard of goo gone (http://www.googone.com/) :sd:
**Raises hand**
Heard & have my bottle handy... mmmm, orangy smell. :D

Though their sticker glue doesn't have to be so strong. :sd:
All those endless stickers I pull off my Disney releases just come off without any effort.
Low tack stickers cost a bit more then glue of death stickers...

Damo
05-18-2007, 03:38 AM
Seen as you're listening Geneon :) , what are the chances of a stadard box with the final volume of the second series for those who will be collecting the Regular edtions?
A-la like the box that came with ROD the TV vol7.

Lego
05-18-2007, 03:50 AM
Seen as you're listening Geneon :) , what are the chances of a stadard box with the final volume of the second series for those who will be collecting the Regular edtions?
A-la like the box that came with ROD the TV vol7.

In the immortal words of Darth Vader, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

A little over done, but it fits the topic. I remember picking up the "book" with volume one then having to pick up volume one again just to complete the volume seven box. At first I really, really, really wanted a nice box like the R2 has. But now I really don't mind the two tins and the singles. I'm not going to put my disks into the tins as I want the art on the keepcases, but I still use them as a "Black Lagoon starts here" type of deal.

I mean I wouldn't mind a box, but then you screw over the people who bought your two tin LE's. I know that dogtags are the extra for volume two(I'm going to pass on them), so it should be interesting to see what Geneon puts out with volume three. I really wouldn't mind a nice cast poster.

Damo
05-18-2007, 04:03 AM
Seen as you're listening Geneon :) , what are the chances of a stadard box with the final volume of the second series for those who will be collecting the Regular edtions?
A-la like the box that came with ROD the TV vol7.

In the immortal words of Darth Vader, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

A little over done, but it fits the topic. I remember picking up the "book" with volume one then having to pick up volume one again just to complete the volume seven box. At first I really, really, really wanted a nice box like the R2 has. But now I really don't mind the two tins and the singles. I'm not going to put my disks into the tins as I want the art on the keepcases, but I still use them as a "Black Lagoon starts here" type of deal.

I mean I wouldn't mind a box, but then you screw over the people who bought your two tin LE's.
No you don't, by not putting your discs in the tins you're probably going to be the exception to the rule, If I bought the tins I'd use them otherside they're taking up shelf space, I can't use them for anything else but I don't want to have to throw away cases and find somewhere to keep the artwork once my discs are in the tins.

So I'd like a stadard box fro the standard RE buyers not the LE buyers. Unliek ROD:TV Black lagoon LE#1 comes with the RE case so no double dipping is needed. If anthing you'd have a nice box to keep your discs in book ended by the two tins.

Fencedude
05-18-2007, 04:07 AM
In the immortal words of Darth Vader, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

A little over done, but it fits the topic. I remember picking up the "book" with volume one then having to pick up volume one again just to complete the volume seven box. At first I really, really, really wanted a nice box like the R2 has. But now I really don't mind the two tins and the singles. I'm not going to put my disks into the tins as I want the art on the keepcases, but I still use them as a "Black Lagoon starts here" type of deal.

I mean I wouldn't mind a box, but then you screw over the people who bought your two tin LE's. I know that dogtags are the extra for volume two(I'm going to pass on them), so it should be interesting to see what Geneon puts out with volume three. I really wouldn't mind a nice cast poster.

How does that "screw" anyone over?

Lego
05-18-2007, 04:07 AM
I'm not arguing against a box as I was pushing for one in the original thread, but now that things are as they're, I can't see that happening unless there is a significant movement towards it. I know it seems kind of stupid to get the LE with the tin if I'm not going to use it, but I wanted the extra disk as I'm a huge fan of the show. While I wouldn't turn down a box, I don't have that many qualms anymore about having the series on my shelf as "Tin, Single Single, Tin, Single, Single". Although if things go according to plan and we get the standard keepcase again with the second tin, I'll just put the second tin at the end of the series.

gryffinseye
05-18-2007, 04:13 AM
Correct. It's shrinkwrapped together.

Great. I wish they'd do this more often with releases that have special packaging. This way I can get the extras disc and I don't miss out on the cover art of the regular edition.

Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)

While people are asking for things, how about a Shakugan no Shana box?

Damo
05-18-2007, 04:19 AM
I'm not arguing against a box as I was pushing for one in the original thread, but now that things are as they're, I can't see that happening unless there is a significant movement towards it.
Significant move will have to be bigger sales of the RE than of the LE, I've never liked the idea of having to switch out a case/cover I've paid for to effectly throw it away becasue the series box is a custom design, that's my biggest gripe and I didn't buy ROD:TV vol1:LE and all of Stellvia because of it. That's my main reason for asking for a regular box.

Geneon's move to include the RE is a great step forward as it really does open up the choice though. The extras disc doesn't appear to havea lot of stuff on it so it's not exactly a major incentive. Trailers and promo's & 1 documatary aren't what I'd consider "disc 2" material.

MaikuB
05-18-2007, 05:56 AM
While people are asking for things, how about a Shakugan no Shana box?


http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showpost.php?post/435566/

gryffinseye
05-18-2007, 06:57 AM
While people are asking for things, how about a Shakugan no Shana box?


http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showpost.php?post/435566/

Seen it. Posted in it. Choose to remain skeptical until I hear something official from Geneon that it's going to happen.

hikaru004
05-18-2007, 09:08 AM
In the immortal words of Darth Vader, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

A little over done, but it fits the topic. I remember picking up the "book" with volume one then having to pick up volume one again just to complete the volume seven box. At first I really, really, really wanted a nice box like the R2 has. But now I really don't mind the two tins and the singles. I'm not going to put my disks into the tins as I want the art on the keepcases, but I still use them as a "Black Lagoon starts here" type of deal.

I mean I wouldn't mind a box, but then you screw over the people who bought your two tin LE's. I know that dogtags are the extra for volume two(I'm going to pass on them), so it should be interesting to see what Geneon puts out with volume three. I really wouldn't mind a nice cast poster.

How does that "screw" anyone over?


Because a huge portion of the tin crowd would have probably bought the artbox instead if they had known that one was forthcoming. Most people don't buy both. :)

sawmill
05-18-2007, 01:36 PM
Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)
I really hope you're listening to the concerns of stickers on the tins, too. :(


We've heard about this one too, and understand. Unfortunately, the sticker is the only place where we can put a barcode on the product, and it has to be affixed to the product itself, rather than on the shrinkwrap.

That said, we will try to find alternate options for this when volume 1 of Second Barrage rolls around. I don't like leaving gummy residue on my stuff either, so I get you guys. Hopefully we can figure something out.

Could always do it similar to some specialty box sets where it's just a card under the shrinkwrap but on the box. Sometimes they're either loose or a have a small drop of glue to hold them in place while bring shrinkwrapped. Far better than the gobs of sticky residue I still have to remove.
Make it a real insert or pencilboard with UPC that goes on the outside. No insert, no UPC, no return. Either that or put it in a real box or shrikwrap package with paper backing with an UPC. I don't understand the obsession with putting UPCs on the actual product. Neither my DVD player nor universal remote came with a UPC on them. The UPC was on the actual packaging not the product. Don't return the packaging, don't expect to get a refund or an exchange....

Lego
05-18-2007, 02:41 PM
Yeppers.

DragonPup
05-18-2007, 08:48 PM
I just picked up the first disc from a local anime store, and I will reiterate what Chris so elegantly put; Black Lagoon kicks all kinds of ass. Can't wait for disc 2!

Edit: Does anyone find it ironic I registered over 4 years ago, and it still says I am new here? Guess I need to post more...

animeman
05-18-2007, 11:25 PM
Actually, there is a typo in your review Chris. Black Lagoon is split into two 12-episode seasons. Black Lagoon (Season 1) consists of Episode 1 to 12 while Black Lagoon Second Barrage (Season 2) consists of Episode 13 to 24.

Kikaroo
05-19-2007, 01:24 AM
so it should be interesting to see what Geneon puts out with volume three.

Well, RACS has an interesting little blog piece (http://animecornerstore.blogspot.com/2007/05/upcoming-black-lagoon-hellsing-ultimate_17.html) that indicates Geneon might be taking the previously lighter suggestion seriously. Not "confirmed" but interesting nonetheless.

Hayate Kurogane
05-19-2007, 11:45 AM
For anyone interested, I did [url=http://www.animeondvd.com/conitem.php?item=281a brief write-up[/url] of the Q&A session at the Black Lagoon panel at ACen last weekend.

My first time seeing any of the series was at that panel, and the first two episodes that were screened, and "This show kicks ass" is easily the best way to describe it. :D Great animation, fun characters, awesome opening song, action, humor, an excellent dub... and Revy. And Revy's legs. :virgin:

*is killed by Revy*

Is it original? Maybe not. But who the hell cares? I sure don't. I enjoyed it, and enjoyed it immensely. I may be able to look at it and say certain things about it aren't original after having collected this stuff for a decade and watched it in some form for over fifteen years, or by taking note of the obvious influences from other forms of entertainment, but I'm not sure at what point "not good" became an inherent quality of "unoriginal." I appreciate that some folks like to be entertained in new and creative ways, and thus are always on the lookout for series that are doing things as differently as possible, and that's entirely fine. But I just don't get the compulsion that some other folks have for either complaining about or writing off any given series because it's something that's "been done before" or any of the other usual phrases that get drafted into service on a regular basis.

DanielJr
05-19-2007, 07:18 PM
I just ordered my copy. I had to leave Tsubasa from my haul since Black Lagoon looks ooooohhh-so-much-BETTER!!

Thanks for the review, Chris.

Lego
05-19-2007, 10:51 PM
If it's a decent lighter then I'll pre order the volume 3 LE. I have no use for a lighter, but it looks like a sweet item to have on display. Yay Geneon.

Keep in mind this is early release info and final decisions have not yet been made, but Geneon is considering including a special limited edition authentic Zippo lighter and packaging it at a proposed $50 MSRP price tag. Here are images we were able to obtain of the 5 draft designs they are considering:

On the other hand, ouch, 50 dollars. I'll probably have to pick up the regular edition as I really don't want to spend 40-45 just for a lighter. It pains me though as I skipped the dog tags for volume 2 and I'll probably end up skipping the lighter with volume 3. Ugh, at least I'll have teh singles.

Suko-chan
05-20-2007, 03:33 PM
Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)
I really hope you're listening to the concerns of stickers on the tins, too. :(


We've heard about this one too, and understand. Unfortunately, the sticker is the only place where we can put a barcode on the product, and it has to be affixed to the product itself, rather than on the shrinkwrap.

That said, we will try to find alternate options for this when volume 1 of Second Barrage rolls around. I don't like leaving gummy residue on my stuff either, so I get you guys. Hopefully we can figure something out.

Could always do it similar to some specialty box sets where it's just a card under the shrinkwrap but on the box. Sometimes they're either loose or a have a small drop of glue to hold them in place while bring shrinkwrapped. Far better than the gobs of sticky residue I still have to remove.
An outer card, under the shrinkwrap, is a good idea.
Or a slipcover, like the one that Geneon will have for it's LE of Hellsing Ultimate Vol. #2.

DKL
05-20-2007, 11:44 PM
Black Lagoon 1-4

Oh god, this show is so good.

I know I shouldn't be screwing around right now (have to study for finals), but I think I'll just focus on the 4th episode since...

Okay, so what's happening is that this episode:

Had some kinda dual narrative going on between the present day and 1945 Germany.

What happens in the past is a romantic history story about how a German navy crew takes their sub around to do one last mission (to deliver a Japanese man somewhere), but end up being sunk by the Americans and the British (or something); it was actually a pretty good piece of drama, particularly the end where this one dude couldn’t let go of Nazi Germany and honestly believes that, one day, the Nazis shall rise back to power… and he has a painting that symbolizes this and wants to bring it out of Germany where the Americans won’t get their hands on it.

That part of the story ends with the captain of the ship finding himself disgusted at that man’s delusions and how the Nazis have essentially pushed that same delusion on everyone else, to the extent where things like Nazi Germany are prioritized over something important like a man’s family.

Then, amusingly, this all gets turned around in the present where a bunch of stereotypical Neo-Nazis (complete with stereotypical music and sterotypical clothes... no, really... who where's that kind of stuff in this day and age?) suddenly come up out of nowhere to acquire the painting while the Black Lagoon company is in the middle of plundering it for a client.

That was so goddamn great. It was like they were COMPLETELY making fun of that guy holding onto the painting from the past. Brilliant.

This show is so good…

I love the dub too… just wish I could do DTS 5.1… But yeah, it’s such a solid round of performances.

Okay… off to study…

DanielJr
05-29-2007, 07:36 PM
Alright, I just got my copy in the mail and I had no idea the box was a thin tin?? Like the Hellsing tin? I should've looked closer into it rather than just buying the limited edition.

It utterly sucks!! Why would they release it like this? Do they honestly expect buyers to just throw away all the printed material that comes with the singles? Doesn't that cost money to produce??

Here's some pics I took...

Box + Vol. 1 -- Front (http://www.kenoki.com/images/blacklagoon_dvd1box_01.jpg)
Box + Vol. 1 -- Back (http://www.kenoki.com/images/blacklagoon_dvd1box_02.jpg)
Box Open with DVD (http://www.kenoki.com/images/blacklagoon_dvd1box_03.jpg)
Box Open without DVD (http://www.kenoki.com/images/blacklagoon_dvd1box_04.jpg)
Regular DVD Open with Poster (http://www.kenoki.com/images/blacklagoon_dvd1box_05.jpg)

DKL
05-29-2007, 07:39 PM
Well, some people are having thin-packing problems, so this is pretty good for them.

That said, I like that they did something a little different this time around (and, for the record... I'm honestly starting to run out of shelf space too... so it's nice to have everything in one place).

As for the printed material...

I dunno.

Reinhardt
05-29-2007, 07:56 PM
Alright, I just got my copy in the mail and I had no idea the box was a thin tin?? Like the Hellsing tin? I should've looked closer into it rather than just buying the limited edition.

It utterly sucks!! Why would they release it like this? Do they honestly expect buyers to just throw away all the printed material that comes with the singles? Doesn't that cost money to produce??


There's quite a number of us who love this type of box for the space savings... Boxes are so big that your shelves quickly get full. I used to be a box enthusiast but now I have to save space :(.

I still like to get large boxes when they have a fantastic design and lots of colorful artwork like Haruhi (and some of the recent Funimation boxes), but a nice compact box/design is usually preferable. Also, boxes like the Stellvia tin are the best of both worlds - still have the cover art and you can place the insert in the tin, while having big space savings.

Hayate Kurogane
05-29-2007, 07:57 PM
Alright, I just got my copy in the mail and I had no idea the box was a thin tin?? Like the Hellsing tin? I should've looked closer into it rather than just buying the limited edition.

It utterly sucks!! Why would they release it like this? Do they honestly expect buyers to just throw away all the printed material that comes with the singles? Doesn't that cost money to produce??

Geneon would release it like this as an innovative space-saver, since they know that some fans are rather space-conscious, a group that may also overlap with the group that has a tendency to buy LE versions.

Geneon probably doesn't have any specific expectations as to what buyers might do with the printed material. Some might just toss it all. Others might keep it and set it aside as a collectible item. Still others may take the extra keepcase and use it to replace another that might have a broken hub or a warped face. It's up to each individual person, and I'm not sure it's something that other individuals might best spend their time worry about.

Of course it costs money to produce. But why should that matter to us as consumers? One might make the argument that we're paying for the cost of the packaging in the $30 MSRP that we spend, but I doubt any of us are really willing to go the cardboard sleeve route just to save a dollar or two. It's Geneon's money to spend, and if anyone feels bad about throwing it away, then don't, and save the printed material. Or, sell off the tin (I'm sure others would gladly buy it), and use the conveniently supplied volume 1 packaging to store your volume 1 disc, and then simply buy the other discs as usual.

Information about the tin has been available for a while. Folks here, especially, shouldn't be at all surprised by what they received, since it's been mentioned multiple times in several threads over a period of many weeks.

Chris Beveridge
05-29-2007, 08:03 PM
Do they honestly expect buyers to just throw away all the printed material that comes with the singles?

Count me in as someone who did exactly that. Having four discs in the space of one? Golden. I do agree about the waste aspect but I've never really figured out a better way to do it since what Imaginasian is doing wouldn't fly in the general marketplace.

DanielJr
05-29-2007, 08:09 PM
What's Imaginasian doing?

If they could at least provide some space for the covers and what not, like a pocket or sleeve, it would be great. But it only has space for the discs. I don't mind throwing away the plastic, I got a bunch of those laying around.

DKL
05-29-2007, 08:19 PM
What's Imaginasian doing?

If they could at least provide some space for the covers and what not, like a pocket or sleeve, it would be great. But it only has space for the discs. I don't mind throwing away the plastic, I got a bunch of those laying around.

First volume has some kinda case that holds all the discs... following volumes get sent to you in an envelope...

stfram
05-29-2007, 08:29 PM
Do they honestly expect buyers to just throw away all the printed material that comes with the singles? Doesn't that cost money to produce??


No, they don't. Otherwise, why bother to provide it in the first place?

Some people, of which I'm one, really wanted the regular cover for V1, rather than the tin's cover. Geneon gave me that by providing the regular release along with the LE tin.

As for what I plan to do with it...well, I'm going to slide the trap sheets (covers) all into one case, and the inserts will go inside the case. It's only a six disc release, so using just a single case should be fine.

The discs, of course, go inside the tin.

I did the same for Stellvia, btw, another release idea that I really liked.

DanielJr
05-29-2007, 09:11 PM
Hey! That's not a bad idea. I was thinking of just using a paper clip to keep them all together inside the tin, but I'd figure that would be a tight fit anyways.

If space is such an issue, why not just release the DVDs as thinpack-singles in the first place? It's better for everybody... your shelf, the store shelf, no messy work arounds? And you can still fit inserts in them.


First volume has some kinda case that holds all the discs... following volumes get sent to you in an envelope...
Is it cheaper?

Lego
05-29-2007, 09:48 PM
Exactly. If you like the tins, get the tins. If not, just pick up the regular editions. I have the first tin and will be getting the second tin. I'm not going to put my discs in them though as they're going to act as "markers" for me. You get the RE case with the LE, so it's a win win.

Fencedude
05-29-2007, 10:25 PM
Alright, I just got my copy in the mail and I had no idea the box was a thin tin?? Like the Hellsing tin? I should've looked closer into it rather than just buying the limited edition.

It utterly sucks!! Why would they release it like this? Do they honestly expect buyers to just throw away all the printed material that comes with the singles? Doesn't that cost money to produce??

Here's some pics I took...



I feel compelled to point out that its been known for MONTHS that the packaging was like this.

And why do people have such a hard time with this anyway? I have a nice large envelope that I stored the covers from ROD TV and Stellvia in, and the Black Lagoon covers will be joining them. The keepcases will either be kept for later use or tossed, depending on what condition they are in.

Definitely put me with Chris in the "3 discs in the space of one? AWESOME" category.

KaidoYuji8Adam
05-29-2007, 10:41 PM
I just finished the Limited Edition Disc in English, and I must say, This show kicks all kinds of ass! Usually I dont like somewhat mindless shows, but this show just ROCKED. Wow. And I think this is one of the best Ocean dubs I've ever heard, and rivals many other dubs. I couldnt believe all the explicitives in the subs and the dub. Didnt know the Japanese dropped the F bomb. I just hope the show can keep up all the ass-kicking and also bring in some story. If this keeps up, it could be up there for me with the likes of Bebop, Escaflowne, and Berserk!

One comment: The menus make me sad..I miss awesome NightJar menus :(

DKL
05-29-2007, 11:14 PM
Is it cheaper?

I... have no idea... I think they will all cost the same, but I can't remember... someone else will probably have a better answer...



One comment: The menus make me sad..I miss awesome NightJar menus :(

If we're talking the Trigun-like ones... yeah... those were REALLY sweet... but, you know... simple and navigatable is nice too (and there's no spoilers, yay!)

akcoll99
05-30-2007, 12:17 AM
Is it cheaper?

I... have no idea... I think they will all cost the same, but I can't remember... someone else will probably have a better answer...


ImaginAsian's announced pricing structure was $12.99 for the first volume with case, then $9.99 a volume after that, for volumes that contain 6 or so episodes per volume. It is a very good deal as long as the picture quality holds up.

As for the Black Lagoon packaging situation, Geneon has done this before with shows like Stellvia and ROD The TV. Similar complaints came in then too, but for the most part the experiment proved successful. Sure you were left with the empty cases, but you could fit everything in one space-saving set (or tin in the case of Stellvia), which is real handy for those of us with shelves that just can't hold anymore... :)

Relwarc
05-30-2007, 01:08 PM
I thought Black Lagoon was good precisely because there was something behind the action. It wasn't a mindless show.


Well, after devouring the first disc, I have to admit it's pretty mindless so far. Lots of action, not a lot of much else. Thus far.

DKL
05-30-2007, 03:15 PM
Oh, come now... when you have situations where dialogue such as "Heil uber fuhrer" can arise... you can't help but think that there's a certain amount of wit going on here.

While the show isn't exactly the most philosphical and thought-provoking thing ever, it's definately not as dumb as a bag of hammers (no offense to hammers); I'm actually under the impression that there's this weird sophistication with its humor that's hard to overlook.

...

That or anything with Nazis in it just kills me.

KaidoYuji8Adam
05-30-2007, 08:12 PM
Oh, come now... when you have situations where dialogue such as "Heil uber fuhrer" can arise... you can't help but think that there's a certain amount of wit going on here.

While the show isn't exactly the most philosphical and thought-provoking thing ever, it's definately not as dumb as a bag of hammers (no offense to hammers); I'm actually under the impression that there's this weird sophistication with its humor that's hard to overlook.

...

That or anything with Nazis in it just kills me.


I read somewhere that it does end up getting more deep, while also having the awesome crazy stuff that makes this show. I am curious to see this. 2nd season maybe? The little past hint was really cool if I must say so myself. The writing is Cowboy Bebop quality to me. Not to say the show is much like Bebop, just the writing is top

Relwarc
05-31-2007, 06:58 AM
The little past hint was really cool if I must say so myself.

Really? That's funny, because I thought it came out of nowhere. It was all peppy and then BAM! cue dramatic music and obligatory tearjerking past. It just seemed out-of-character for Revy to spill her guts to Rock that early in the game. Still, any girl who's 1) that skilled with guns, 2) that tolerant of liquor and 3) that obsessed with a Hawaiian shirt can't be normal. :sd:

ahuang
05-31-2007, 11:17 AM
The little past hint was really cool if I must say so myself.

Really? That's funny, because I thought it came out of nowhere. It was all peppy and then BAM! cue dramatic music and obligatory tearjerking past. It just seemed out-of-character for Revy to spill her guts to Rock that early in the game. Still, any girl who's 1) that skilled with guns, 2) that tolerant of liquor and 3) that obsessed with a Hawaiian shirt can't be normal. :sd:

You'll get a better look at what motivates Levy in volume 2 and how it relates to her sudden turn in mood right there.

Relwarc
05-31-2007, 01:15 PM
The little past hint was really cool if I must say so myself.

Really? That's funny, because I thought it came out of nowhere. It was all peppy and then BAM! cue dramatic music and obligatory tearjerking past. It just seemed out-of-character for Revy to spill her guts to Rock that early in the game. Still, any girl who's 1) that skilled with guns, 2) that tolerant of liquor and 3) that obsessed with a Hawaiian shirt can't be normal. :sd:

You'll get a better look at what motivates Levy in volume 2 and how it relates to her sudden turn in mood right there.

If this is your way of enticing me to buy more Black Lagoon, you can rest easy. I've already got everything up to and including the second season disc one preordered. ;)

DKL
05-31-2007, 01:17 PM
Wait, so what else was on the second LE again?

Just a necklace?

akcoll99
05-31-2007, 04:30 PM
Wait, so what else was on the second LE again?

Just a necklace?

It's dog tags, IIRC.

Sheena
06-01-2007, 03:09 PM
You'll get a better look at what motivates Levy in volume 2 and how it relates to her sudden turn in mood right there.

Speaking of vol.2, is release date really 6/12/07? That seems really quick after vol.1. Not that I mind but trying to confirm it.

Kikaroo
06-01-2007, 03:27 PM
Speaking of vol.2, is release date really 6/12/07? That seems really quick after vol.1. Not that I mind but trying to confirm it.


Nope - it was changed awhile back to 7/24/07. I know that's the date Right Stuff has at least.

DKL
06-01-2007, 05:27 PM
Speaking of vol.2, is release date really 6/12/07? That seems really quick after vol.1. Not that I mind but trying to confirm it.


Nope - it was changed awhile back to 7/24/07. I know that's the date Right Stuff has at least.


Oh, okay... guess that explains my confusion with all these dates all over the place; 7/24 it is.

Lego
06-01-2007, 07:06 PM
Yeah it was a casualty since volume one was pushed back. I've had it pre ordered so Rightstuf just bumped it accordingly.

akcoll99
06-01-2007, 08:03 PM
Speaking of vol.2, is release date really 6/12/07? That seems really quick after vol.1. Not that I mind but trying to confirm it.


Nope - it was changed awhile back to 7/24/07. I know that's the date Right Stuff has at least.


It doesn't help the confusion that some places like DVD Pacific still have listings up for both release dates for volume 2.

DKL
06-01-2007, 08:07 PM
It doesn't help the confusion that some places like DVD Pacific still have listings up for both release dates for volume 2.

Yup, exactly why it was all confusing... but, thankfully, it's been straighten out now, thanks to this thread.

So what else comes with the LE again?

Just dog tags?

akcoll99
06-01-2007, 11:50 PM
So what else comes with the LE again?

Just dog tags?

According to the description over at Right Stuf, yes, the only extra with the LE version of volume 2 is a set of Dog Tags. I'm not sure what's on the dog tags exactly, probably the Black Lagoon logo on one side or something like that.

DKL
06-02-2007, 12:00 AM
...

...

Well, naturally... even if I don't really wear it or whatever...

I'll just buy it anyway.

gryffinseye
06-02-2007, 12:33 AM
So what else comes with the LE again?

Just dog tags?

According to the description over at Right Stuf, yes, the only extra with the LE version of volume 2 is a set of Dog Tags. I'm not sure what's on the dog tags exactly, probably the Black Lagoon logo on one side or something like that.

You can see the Dog Tags over at MySpace - all four main characters have profiles with all the merchandise related stuff in posts:

Rock's MySpace Page - Dog Tags (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=170859801&blogID=260356899&MyToken=5719f546-4ed7-4f04-abf0-c1ba3841486e)

If that's all that's with the Volume 2 LE, I'll be passing. I'd rather put the extra $10 to another series.

akcoll99
06-02-2007, 08:04 PM
So what else comes with the LE again?

Just dog tags?

According to the description over at Right Stuf, yes, the only extra with the LE version of volume 2 is a set of Dog Tags. I'm not sure what's on the dog tags exactly, probably the Black Lagoon logo on one side or something like that.

You can see the Dog Tags over at MySpace - all four main characters have profiles with all the merchandise related stuff in posts:

Rock's MySpace Page - Dog Tags (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=170859801&blogID=260356899&MyToken=5719f546-4ed7-4f04-abf0-c1ba3841486e)

If that's all that's with the Volume 2 LE, I'll be passing. I'd rather put the extra $10 to another series.

Thanks for the head's up. Those actually don't look half bad. I pre-ordered the LE and I'm glad I did now. :)

gryffinseye
06-04-2007, 04:46 PM
Hey, you guys spoke, and so for this release, we listened. :)

Okay, time to listen again. Fix your distribution problem. People who preordered this title when the release date was still April shouldn't still be waiting on their order to ship two weeks after the release date because the store they preordered it at hasn't received their stock yet.

Lego
06-04-2007, 04:52 PM
Not to be a Geneon apologist and take the blame off them, but are you sure it isn't the store? I pre ordered mine from Rightstuf and it came pretty quickly. I got it before the release date to.

Hayate Kurogane
06-04-2007, 05:01 PM
Not to be a Geneon apologist and take the blame off them, but are you sure it isn't the store? I pre ordered mine from Rightstuf and it came pretty quickly. I got it before the release date to.

To say nothing of the many early copies present at Best Buys and Transworld stores around the country. Copies distributed through Diamond Comics were also received and sent out to (some) stores in a timely fashion. What store are you ordering from, griffinseye? If it's a smaller local store, it might just be them getting screwed over by a larger distributor (be it Diamond or whoever) who's shoved its smaller customers waaay down to the bottom of the priority list.

gryffinseye
06-04-2007, 05:02 PM
Not to be a Geneon apologist and take the blame off them, but are you sure it isn't the store? I pre ordered mine from Rightstuf and it came pretty quickly. I got it before the release date to.


Fairly sure. DVD Pacific had my Haruhi LE in stock a week before the release date. It's waiting on Black Lagoon v1 before it ships. If this was an isolated incident or not limited to Geneon releases, I'd not necessarily lay blame on Geneon's door; however it's far from the first time that an order has been waiting on a Geneon title to arrive well past the release date.

gryffinseye
06-04-2007, 05:04 PM
Not to be a Geneon apologist and take the blame off them, but are you sure it isn't the store? I pre ordered mine from Rightstuf and it came pretty quickly. I got it before the release date to.

To say nothing of the many early copies present at Best Buys and Transworld stores around the country. Copies distributed through Diamond Comics were also received and sent out to (some) stores in a timely fashion. What store are you ordering from, griffinseye? If it's a smaller local store, it might just be them getting screwed over by a larger distributor (be it Diamond or whoever) who's shoved its smaller customers waaay down to the bottom of the priority list.

DVD Pacific. And considering the hefty discounts they sell at, I don't think they could be considered anything near a small retailer. And as I said to Lego, if this were a one-off thing with Geneon titles, I wouldn't be that unhappy about it, but it's happened on more than one occasion in the past and it's only ever been Geneon titles that have been delayed. My Haruhi LE has been on hand since the Black Lagoon release date, so their Bandai distributor doesn't seem to be a problem.

Lego
06-04-2007, 05:22 PM
I've never ordered from them, so I couldn't tell you. I'd be the same way though and feel the same way you do, so I can't fault you there.

Hayate Kurogane
06-04-2007, 05:23 PM
Not to be a Geneon apologist and take the blame off them, but are you sure it isn't the store? I pre ordered mine from Rightstuf and it came pretty quickly. I got it before the release date to.

To say nothing of the many early copies present at Best Buys and Transworld stores around the country. Copies distributed through Diamond Comics were also received and sent out to (some) stores in a timely fashion. What store are you ordering from, griffinseye? If it's a smaller local store, it might just be them getting screwed over by a larger distributor (be it Diamond or whoever) who's shoved its smaller customers waaay down to the bottom of the priority list.

DVD Pacific. And considering the hefty discounts they sell at, I don't think they could be considered anything near a small retailer. And as I said to Lego, if this were a one-off thing with Geneon titles, I wouldn't be that unhappy about it, but it's happened on more than one occasion in the past and it's only ever been Geneon titles that have been delayed. My Haruhi LE has been on hand since the Black Lagoon release date, so their Bandai distributor doesn't seem to be a problem.

Odd. I wonder what the distribution chain is like between Geneon and DVD Pacific, and if there's a hang-up or bottleneck that makes this an ongoing issue. It could also/might actually be DVD Pacific's fault in one of several ways that would prevent them from having new Geneon releases in stock on time.

akcoll99
06-04-2007, 05:52 PM
Not to be a Geneon apologist and take the blame off them, but are you sure it isn't the store? I pre ordered mine from Rightstuf and it came pretty quickly. I got it before the release date to.

To say nothing of the many early copies present at Best Buys and Transworld stores around the country. Copies distributed through Diamond Comics were also received and sent out to (some) stores in a timely fashion. What store are you ordering from, griffinseye? If it's a smaller local store, it might just be them getting screwed over by a larger distributor (be it Diamond or whoever) who's shoved its smaller customers waaay down to the bottom of the priority list.

DVD Pacific. And considering the hefty discounts they sell at, I don't think they could be considered anything near a small retailer. And as I said to Lego, if this were a one-off thing with Geneon titles, I wouldn't be that unhappy about it, but it's happened on more than one occasion in the past and it's only ever been Geneon titles that have been delayed. My Haruhi LE has been on hand since the Black Lagoon release date, so their Bandai distributor doesn't seem to be a problem.

Odd. I wonder what the distribution chain is like between Geneon and DVD Pacific, and if there's a hang-up or bottleneck that makes this an ongoing issue. It could also/might actually be DVD Pacific's fault in one of several ways that would prevent them from having new Geneon releases in stock on time.

There has to be something weird going on there because in recent weeks, I've cancelled my orders at DVD Pacific for Black Lagoon v1, Karin v1, Rozen Maiden v1, and Ergo Proxy v4 because they weren't shipping from DVD Pacific but I was able to locate all 4 titles in stores. They are all still listed as "On Order" at DVD Pacific's website...

sonicjam628
06-04-2007, 06:05 PM
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There has to be something weird going on there because in recent weeks, I've cancelled my orders at DVD Pacific for Black Lagoon v1, Karin v1, Rozen Maiden v1, and Ergo Proxy v4 because they weren't shipping from DVD Pacific but I was able to locate all 4 titles in stores. They are all still listed as "On Order" at DVD Pacific's website...
[/quote]

I am also waiting for Black Lagoon to ship from DVDPacific. As well as Rozen Maiden and Ergo Proxy.

If things continue, then I think the same thing will happen for my order for When They Cry and Hellsing Ultimate. :( :(

ahuang
06-04-2007, 07:06 PM
In the interests of, er, not disseminating too much information too loosely, I've removed my earlier statement....

I will say, however, that we will look into any such chronic matters as this. In the case that we do not have a direct relationship with a retailer, however, our influence on the issue would be minimal at best.

Lego
06-04-2007, 10:45 PM
There has to be something weird going on there because in recent weeks, I've cancelled my orders at DVD Pacific for Black Lagoon v1, Karin v1, Rozen Maiden v1, and Ergo Proxy v4 because they weren't shipping from DVD Pacific but I was able to locate all 4 titles in stores. They are all still listed as "On Order" at DVD Pacific's website...
[/quote]

I am also waiting for Black Lagoon to ship from DVDPacific. As well as Rozen Maiden and Ergo Proxy.

If things continue, then I think the same thing will happen for my order for When They Cry and Hellsing Ultimate. :( :( [/quote]

Yeah. Another poster is having the same issue with Rozen Maiden, so it's most likely a supply problem for them.

Leon_Belmont
06-05-2007, 12:33 AM
Good god this show kicks so much ass. Might be the best disc of anime I've seen in years. I've been waiting a while for one of these to take point and it's finally happened....

...Revy is without a doubt the greatest female in anime right now. There's is nobody else I'd rather be ruthlessly massacred by.

Amano07
06-06-2007, 05:19 AM
i'm still waiting on DVD pacific to ship mine as well :( any luck on this gryffinseye with your copy?

gryffinseye
06-06-2007, 05:22 AM
i'm still waiting on DVD pacific to ship mine as well :( any luck on this gryffinseye with your copy?

Still nothing. Apparently it's a distributor issue.

Amano07
06-06-2007, 05:38 AM
ah damn!....my pirates blu rays are waiting on the same order ..i neeeeed them ..hehe

gryffinseye
06-06-2007, 05:51 AM
ah damn!....my pirates blu rays are waiting on the same order ..i neeeeed them ..hehe

My Haruhi LE Box order is waiting on it. Ironically, it was on hand on Black Lagoon's release date.

I honestly don't know what's going on. Maybe DVD Pac's distributor for Geneon titles has changed in the recent past. I guess it's just disappointing that it's now two weeks after the scheduled release date and still no sign of it.

Amano07
06-06-2007, 06:05 AM
yeah i figured as much ..i'm gonna give it another week and if it doesnt ship by then ... i'm gonna have to drop it and then re-order it somewhere else just so i can get the rest of my stuff ..i hate when that happens cuz i like dvd pacific :)

Lego
06-06-2007, 03:06 PM
yeah i figured as much ..i'm gonna give it another week and if it doesnt ship by then ... i'm gonna have to drop it and then re-order it somewhere else just so i can get the rest of my stuff ..i hate when that happens cuz i like dvd pacific :)



I get that way sometimes with Rigtstuf heh. They're pretty good in splitting orders or allowing my insane demands because I like to get my stuff quick if I'm putting cash into the picture. So I can understand how you feel in wanting your stuff now.

As for the show though, I'm glad to see it getting some pretty positive buzz leading up to volume two.

gryffinseye
06-06-2007, 04:53 PM
yeah i figured as much ..i'm gonna give it another week and if it doesnt ship by then ... i'm gonna have to drop it and then re-order it somewhere else just so i can get the rest of my stuff ..i hate when that happens cuz i like dvd pacific :)



I just got this email from DVD Pacific:

We finally received new from the studio we should be getting stock of BL V 1
LE next week the latest we have been told the shipment is in transit at this
time.. Thank Goodness

I wonder if when they say "the studio", that means Geneon stepped in. If so, very much appreciated, Andrew and Co :D

Amano07
06-07-2007, 12:49 AM
awesome !!!!!!!!:)

Vicserr
06-07-2007, 12:16 PM
I'm Impressed...a slam, bang, thank you ma'am kind of show, having Rokuro hang around the hardenered merc crew of the Lagoon company is interesting as heck as salaryman meets lot of ppl that would eat him for breakfast and packing enough firepower to rival a Hollywood movie and how they start creating bonds. an A+ in my book.

and about Revy... the definiton of grace under fire, and lover of Puerto Rican Rum ;) ... O.O just make sure you are not in her way. :sd: