Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion Episodes 24 and 25 and Beyond

[Fencedude]

The existing topics are older than dirt, so its time for a new topic.

Later this month, episodes 24 and 25 will FINALLY air, and then in October season 2 begins.

A streaming PV for 24 and 25 has been released. I highly advise letting it play all the way through and then watching it, because of streaming issues.

mms://up-bv.sri.jp/movie/geass/geass_24&25_pv_official_l.wmv

[Advent_Nebula]

can not wait.

[Splitter]

July 28th can't come fast enough.

I want my Psycho Nina!

[Dagger]

Mmmm. Looking forward to seeing Lelouch and his ladies kicking ass & taking names.

[something]

So close... and yet with Otakon happening right before, potentially so, so very far...

[Fencedude]

So close... and yet with Otakon happening right before, potentially so, so very far...

If you choose not to watch them after they get licensed you really lose any right to complain about them being far away...

[something]

If you choose not to watch them after they get licensed you really lose any right to complain about them being far away...
I'm getting a sense of deja vu here.

[Fencedude]

Oh crap, it's Marianne!

With Cornelia no less.

[Westlo]

*prays for Cornelia to survive*

[Splitter]

*prays for Cornelia to survive*

At the end of 23, I was more worried for Villetta.

[HitokiriShadow]

Based on her brief appearance in the preview (in different clothes and not in the house), I think Villeta will be fine, at least for a little while.

[HitokiriShadow]

So close... and yet with Otakon happening right before, potentially so, so very far...

I don't care if it gets licensed at Otakon, there's no way in hell I'm waiting 15+ months to see this.

[Westlo]

Based on her brief appearance in the preview (in different clothes and not in the house), I think Villeta will be fine, at least for a little while.

Yeah that's why I'm not worried about her, Cornelia otoh... Lulu is gunning for her and he geassed one what his name who's close to her :(

[Westlo]

Yeah that's who I'm talking about I think...

Btw Licensed.

[Splitter]

Yeah that's who I'm talking about I think...

Btw Licensed.

As expected. Still watching 24/25 at the first available opportunity.

[HitokiriShadow]

Yeah, there's no way in hell I'm waiting over a year to see the last two episodes. something is going to go insane...

[lostnomad84]

Yeah, there's no way in hell I'm waiting over a year to see the last two episodes. something is going to go insane...

From this 2 minute preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrJKNalXBq4), I think you can easily answer your own question ;)
(NOTE: If you have NOT watched any of Geass, the preview has massive spoilers for episodes 1-23, so beaware before clicking that link!)

[HitokiriShadow]

I've seen the preview. And I didn't have a question in my post, so I'm not sure what question its supposed to answer.

[mandisaw]

Anybody have a clue if 24/25 will be a decent stopping point? I'd like to at least finish up "season 1", before waiting for a nice shiny R1 version to drool over. Geass is totally something I'd be willing to watch over again (especially with a good dub).

But if 24/25's just going to be another damn cliffhanger-from-hell, I'll just keep going with the waiting game.

[Destinyblade]

Anybody have a clue if 24/25 will be a decent stopping point?

According to the spoilers for 24/25, it ends with a massive cliffhanger.

[DiGiKerot]

But if 24/25's just going to be another damn cliffhanger-from-hell, I'll just keep going with the waiting game.

You'll want to be playing the waiting game, then - if anything, it's even worse an ending than episode 23...

That said, Cecile is HOT in pilot gear.

[DiGiKerot]

So,
Cornelia actually knows sod all about what happened to Marianne (though hints that Marianne might have known something before hand),
Villetta busts a cap in Ougis ass,
Cecile is hot,
VV kidnaps Nunally,
the Black Knights organisation goes completely to hell when Lulu leaves the battlefield to chase them,
Nina has a nuke, but hasn't used it yet,
Karen breaks when she discovers that Lulu has been messing with her the whole time,
C.C. plunges to the bottom of the ocean in an attempt to take out Orange-kun,
and, finally, Suzaku and Lulu move to shoot each other.

Oh, and a bunch of people die and stuff.


Is it just me, or has this episode posed more questions than it's answered? I don't see how even Lulu rectify this kind of situation...

[Westlo]

For 24

fuck noooooooo cornelia!!!

like the new op and eagerly awaiting 25, not much point in discussing just 24.

[mikedude]

WORST CLIFFHANGER EVER.

[Fencedude]

WORST CLIFFHANGER EVER.

Yeah, no kidding.

Also, they killed Inoue. ;_;

[lostnomad84]

WORST CLIFFHANGER EVER.

Yeah, no kidding.



My thoughts exactly.

People complain about endings from other anime series, but this has got to be the worst. If season 2 wasn't already announced, I would be pounding my head right now.

[HitokiriShadow]

WORST CLIFFHANGER EVER.

That is fucking evil.

The second season has been announced, but we don't have a clue when it will air. ARRRRRRRG.

[HitokiriShadow]

WORST CLIFFHANGER EVER.

Yeah, no kidding.

Also, they killed Inoue. ;_;


That was the blue haird Black Knight chick, right? I was hoping she would actually do something of significance at some point. :(

[Westlo]

Haven't seen 25 yet but isn't the next ep "really" 26 as opposed to season 2 ep 1. I'll rather get 25 eps, have a 6-12 month brake than get the last 25 than end up with a 50 episode anime that has 4 recap episodes like Destiny as well as varying levels of animation.

[HitokiriShadow]

24 and 25 were supposed to be the end of the first season. The next episode will be the first episode of Season 2.

[Westlo]

24 and 25 were supposed to be the end of the first season. The next episode will be the first episode of Season 2.

Code Geass seems more like a 50 episode series split in half more than 2 separate seasons. But I guess the big question is when will it air?

Now I would be hoping for an October start, but would Sunrise risk their hottest new property in years against their latest gundam as well as a new Macross?

lmao @ Orange-kuns dramatic ALL HAIL BRITTIANIA entrance

[HitokiriShadow]

Code Geass seems more like a 50 episode series split in half more than 2 separate seasons. But I guess the big question is when will it air?


That's probably what it end up being, though we won't know for sure until Sunrise gives us a bone or two to chew on.

[Advent_Nebula]

Watch season two will start airing right after Gundam 00 finishes it's run.

[Westlo]

Watch season two will start airing right after Gundam 00 finishes it's run.

Would be ridiculous to wait 14 months to continue the series. As much as I'm hoping for October I'm thinking it will probably be Jan/April so that the new Gundam/Macross hype has died down.

[guyver83]

WORST CLIFFHANGER EVER.

That is fucking evil.

The second season has been announced, but we don't have a clue when it will air. ARRRRRRRG.

I didn't even read your post and the first thing that came to my mind or what I said was "THATS SO FUCKING EVIL"
and i watched this at work and said that ahha. Man I was all on the edge of my chair then that.. DAMN YOU SUNRISE! shit, all that wait I might forget some things. Alas, Bandai will be getting my money for this show regardless.

[houkoholic]

Watch season two will start airing right after Gundam 00 finishes it's run.

Highly unlikely, the two's target audience is going to be different anyway.

00 will most likely take the Saturday Golden time time slot like SEED did to maximise exposure and opportunity for the Gunpla business, whereas Code Geass will stay on the late shift.

[Helschadenfreude]

That was a really bad cliffhanger.

I don't really get what went on, there was things going ALL over the place.

Zero was winning, and then as soon as Ougi gets shot, Zero leaves, the whole thing falls apart. It's kinda sad that in the search for Nuallany, he might lose the entire war. Although if he loses her, it doesn't matter. The C.C kiss wasn't that hot though... I felt the buildup, but as someone else said, felt forced in the end.

I'm mad though that Vilette just remembered! how did she get her memories back? I thought she was stuck somewhere with someone pounding on the door

[HitokiriShadow]

The C.C kiss wasn't that hot though... I felt the buildup, but as someone else said, felt forced in the end.

I thought the latter half of 25 was kind of rushed, but especially the C.C. stuff.

I'm mad though that Vilette just remembered! how did she get her memories back? I thought she was stuck somewhere with someone pounding on the door


Maybe some blunt head trauma? I don't know, they didn't really explain it, but I never thought here survival, subsequent amnesia, and being found by Ougi really added up. But when they first showed her in 24, they showed her walking out of the house she had been stuck in and some bodies where on the floor. So its not like they just forgot where she had been.

[HitokiriShadow]

Kallen also abruptly thought that perhaps Lelouch had been using the Japanese, which he certainly had, even though again, Kallen knew nothing about Lelouch's schemes. I just don't quite get why Kallen would be on a verge of a nervous breakdown just by finding out Zero=Lelouch.

Ah, yes, that was another part that seemed odd and a victim of the rush. I agree, it didn't really make a lot of sense. My recollection of the conversation following that is vague, but I thought Lulu and Suzaku's dialogue was a bit odd, like the writers forgot to include some of their lines. Lulu was kind of all over the place as well. He seemed to intentionally say the worst things possibel to Suzaku and piss him off, then he asked to team up. Then he randomly pulls Sakuradite out of nowhere.[hide] I really think this episode needed another 5 minutes or so. Or just should have ended sooner, like right after [hide]Karen flew off to follow Lancelot.

[HitokiriShadow]

Oh I agree, but in doing so, they rushed the last episode (especially the last 5 minutes or so) and sacrificed the flow and coherence of some of the scenes.

[Westlo]

I really didn't mind the last 5 minutes as much as you guys did but I really think an added line of two could have made Karens reaction make more sense. If Suzaku had said something along the line of you disgust me for killing your siblings Clovis and Euphie it would have made her reaction much better

Christ, the whole C.C and Lelouch romance buildup took like 15 seconds.

Only if you ignore the cave episode and up :P

[angelx03]

From the cave episode, it seemed like Lelouch's and CC's relationship was like a guardian/child relationship. Suddenly, it became romantic, but hell, everyone knew Lelouch and C.C would develop romantically eventually.

Would the incidents with Mao count as well? :roll:

[Helschadenfreude]

I didn't get any romantic vibes from that arc either. It had more of a "let's trust each other more" feeling.

Except for that bridge scene. :sd:

[Westlo]

Confirmed for Spring 08, even though we pretty much knew it's nice to have confirmation.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-12-06/new-code-geass-tv-series-confirmed-for-spring-2008

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/1724/njewfrbl8.jpg

[Westlo]

Surprise surprise Geass 2 doesn't get the Dokoru slot but gets a brand new one instead.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-12-30/new-code-geass-april

They feature the four characters that topped the official homepage's poll of the most popular characters from the previous series: #1's Lelouch in two different pose variants, #2's Kallen, #3's Suzaku, and #4's C.C.

Wtf I thouht C.C was the most popular female...

[leongsh]

Surprise surprise Geass 2 doesn't get the Dokoru slot but gets a brand new one instead.
Why not the dokoru slot? Is the newer slot a more advantageous slot or is another show causing it to move to another?

[Westlo]

Why not the dokoru slot? Is the newer slot a more advantageous slot or is another show causing it to move to another?

I'm guessing it would be an advantage to avoid Major which will be into the 4th season by the time Geass starts. Also maybe Macross Frontier is getting the Dokoru slot? Should find out soon I guess, maybe MBS wanted to make another Dokoru type time slot as well *shrugs*.

[Westlo]

C.C's new outfit is awesome and hot.

http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=43461360mu3.jpg

[Westlo]

I'll make a proper CGR2 thread in a few weeks time but I'll still post a few updates in here. The OP/ED for CGR2 are being done by Orange Range, the same group who did the first OP theme for Bleach.

There's also a lot of information out about what certain characters are up to atm but I know a lot of people don't want to be spoiled on that stuff so I won't post it. Though I do have to say about Nina... damn what a makeover

[something]

I can't hit "reply with quote" because then the stuff in your tagged spoiler will display in the text field, but it's probably not necessary. Anyway, definitely looking forward to the new thread in a few weeks. What I plan on doing is marathoning the entire show again, 1-23, before finally sitting down and watching 24-25. I'll probably start this ~2-3 days before episode one airs, which given the standard sub delay should have me finish around the time episode one comes out.

This should be good~

[William K]

Though I do have to say about Nina... damn what a makeover

You mean this? :P
http://www.geass.jp/world_03_ex.html?pid=chara_10.html

[angelx03]

Though I do have to say about Nina... damn what a makeover

You mean this? :P
http://www.geass.jp/world_03_ex.html?pid=chara_10.html


Oh snap! O.O :virgin:

[Westlo]

Yep that's what I mean!

Also considering that Goro also directed Scryed if the characters voiced by the same VAs as Ryuhou and Kazuma don't have an epic fight where they shout out each others names I will be disappointed :(

Heck Orange kun at the end of the first series is pretty much a nod to Kazuma anyway.

[Buster Blader 126]

It seems like I've jumped onto the Code Geass bandwagon just in time for Season 2.

Over the past few months, the praise that I've been hearing about Code Geass caused my interest for the show to rise to an all-time high. So much, that two weeks ago, I had decided to purchase the R1 DVDs upon release, despite not having watched even one second of it. Why? Because I just had a feeling that I would really enjoy the series. Nothing more, nothing less. I tend to trust this feeling, because past blind-buys due to this feeling has not disappointed me.

I had also contemplated starting Season 2 without watching Season 1 (which I've done for a few series already without any disappointment), but then I got a gut feeling that I would be severely disappointed if I had done so, so I didn't.

A few days later, I thought to myself, "well, I'm going to buy the series in singles anyways - I might as well watch it now!". So I proceeded to download the whole series.

I started watching the series exactly one week ago, and today, I have finished it, having watched Episode 25 two hours ago. And I must say...

...that Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion, is one of the best fucking shows I've ever seen.

I have to say, my standards for Code Geass had been raised due to the hype, and I was worried that I would eventually find myself overrating the show, like I ultimately did with Cowboy Bebop and Fullmetal Alchemist. Fortunately, Code Geass did not disappoint.

The show simply wowed me. I ended up liking many of the characters from the show, from Kallen Karen and C.C., to even minor supporting characters like Kyoshiro and Cecile. The concept seemed quite odd at first (Britian vs. the Japanese?), but that didn't really matter in the long run, as what came of it resulted in a very interesting and compelling story. Music from Hitomi was a huge plus, not to mention the action was pretty sweet.

Ultimately, it was the development of the story and the characters that really sold me on the show. Watching the relationships of the various characters, and their struggles as they fought for their ideals, was very intriguing. And what about those cliffhangers? There weren't as many as I thought, but it was where they were that mattered - I can now see why so many people got hooked to the series.

(To be continued in the next post.)

[Buster Blader 126]

I felt that I needed to have a post for my thoughts regarding some of the characters. (I'll spoiler tag some stuff just in case.) Here's what I thought about some of them:

Kallen Stadtfeld/Karen Kozuki

Honestly, why Kallen? It should be Karen for both versions, dammit. XD Just had to get that off my chest.

Anyways, I really liked Kallen as the series progressed. She was headstrong, and was able to fight strong pilots on her own more often than not. And to top it all off, she even had zettai ryoiki. XD Personally, I think that her devotion to Zero is full of potential romantic tension, but it might not be realized after the events of Episode 25.

I'm really keen on finding out what happened to her in Season 2.

Nina Einstien

I honestly thought that she would be as useless as Rivalz, Milly and (to a degree,) Shirley, but boy, was I (and most of us I would assume) dead wrong.

Personally, Nina was the most interesting minor supporting character to watch. It was interesting to see her character change, as her obsession for Euphemia grew. You can be sure that I was quite surprised when Sunrise threw us that scene where she was masturbating to pictures of Euphemia.

It looks like she'll play a greater part in Season 2, after having seen her actions in the last few episodes. Given her intellect regarding chemicals and her involvement with Lloyd, with her beloved Euphemia dead, it looks like Lelouch will gain a new enemy quite soon.

Shirley Fenette

IT'S OK, SHIRLEY! :cry:

Poor girl. First she loses her dad, and then she gets manipulated by Mao. And if that wasn't enough, she loses her memories (as well as her feelings) of Lelouch. As improbable as it was for her to be with Lelouch, I still felt sad for her during those particular episodes.

Though she remembers that Lelouch is Zero now, so I wonder what Sunrise will do regarding that....

Villetta Nu

It sure was surprising to see Villetta suddenly being taken care of by Kaname after it is revealed that Shirley shoots her in Episode 14 . I actually liked them together, which made that one particular scene in Episode 25 somewhat sad to watch, even though I saw that coming.

I would definitely like to see them get back together somehow, but Villetta will have to change her views before that happens.

Also, zettai ryoiki + unexpected fanservice in Episode 15 = WHOA! :virgin:

Euphemia Li Britannia

Despite being useless for most of the series, Euphie turned out to be another one of my favourites. In a sense, she was a more likable Lacus, personally. (I actually don't mind Lacus Clyne too much though. =/)

Euphemia was the only chance that Suzaku's dream of changing Britannia from the inside would come into fruition. If it wasn't for that, I might have disliked Suzaku more, because the words coming out of his mouth regarding his ideals were starting to irritate me. Since Euphie had enough power to make that possible, Suzaku was more tolerable.

I really liked the romantic development between her and Suzaku. Their love was blossoming, and seeing them together often put a smile on my face. They were even my favourite couple in Code Geass.

It really was saddening to see Euphie meet such a tragic end. Even though her title was for show, she tried hard to be useful. Hell, she created the Special Region for the Japanese and surrendered her right to the throne, for Nunnally and Lelouch's sake. She had such good intentions, yet she ultimately pays for Lelouch's mistake. Seeing her shooting a machine gun with a manic look on her face actually caused me to tear up.

In short, she turned out to be the one that affected me the most emotionally. May you rest in peace, Euphemia.

Lelouch Lamperouge

I can't really put most of my thoughts into words, except that I would hate to be Lelouch, given his position.

While not all of his methods were right, he did it with good intentions in mind - his little sister, and I can't hate him for that. However, I wonder if he'll succumb to the darkness, ala Light. Good thing that S2 will be watchable in a week or so.

~

After watching the whole thing, I have to say that I'm definitely planning to get the series in singles now. Thanks a lot, Sunrise. :laugh:

[something]

WORST CLIFFHANGER EVER.
Seriously.

I just watched Code Geass 1-23 (rewatch) and 24-25 (first time) today. 25 eps all in a row. 22 and 23 were just as crazy as I remember, and 24 and 25 didn't slow down at all.

These two episodes brought a shift in how I viewed Lelouche, drastic at first but then tempered again at the end. I always liked him, and thought he was doing the right thing. The episode 22 massacre he inadvertantly caused made it a lot harder to feel that way, but it was not his intention. Still, as the opening monologues by CC often emphasize, "consequence" happens regardless of intention. Thousands of Japanese still died. So did Euphemia, and in a way that will stain her legacy forever. In the worst way she could have gone, though at least she got to be with the person she loved at the end.

But I accepted this, and accepted that Lelouche made use of it. The naysayers would have been proven right - what amounts to an indian reservation for the Japanese is not true equality, and what little gains were made would be reversed when Euphie lost favor. She couldn't protect them forever. I don't question his actions there, tragic though it all is. However, for the first time in the entire series, Suzaku's anger was justified. Most of the time Suzaku annoyed me immensely, that idealist lackey for the oppressors. I still don't like him, but he definitely changed when V.V. tipped him off, and his rage makes him more sympathetic. Slightly.

So I both understand and forgive Lelouche, but also finally feel like Suzaku has a good reason to kill him. It left me feeling very torn - I still much prefer Lulu, but it's become much less clear cut as to why.

But then 24-25 come along and he abandons everyone and everything. Ougi, his friends in the student council, Toudou, Kallen, everyone is cast aside for Nunnaly. Again, I both understand and question his actions. This all was for Nunnaly from the start so if he loses her everything falls apart. And more than once he's shown genuine disgust for the discriminatory attitude of Britannia, so the talk of revolution and freedom and equality aren't, I believe, just for show.

But he failed at explaining that rationale to Kallen and Suzaku when he was revealed, and his fixation on Nunnaly's future does leave him prone to devaluing the lives of those around him. If he doesn't realize that this is his greatest weakness, and realize it soon, he's doomed to lose everyone. Even Nunnaly and CC.

Speaking of CC, at the very least he set things right with her before they parted. I was *really* pissed when he started taking his frustration out on CC. She's the last person who deserves that. And if worst comes to worst, she's the only person who will be able to stay by his side.

Oh, as for Orange... I kind of hope he dies early in season two. :sd: He's good for a gag but I really hope the show focuses on more serious characters for the antagonists.

So what will Lulu do? He's been revealed to the two worst people to be revealed to, and has probably irreversibly lost favor with the Order, which is on the verge of destruction anyway. Can he be both loving brother AND leader of the rebellion? Or will he lose both, not realizing that at this point, they're impossible to separate? I have absolutely no idea where this show is going to go, but I can't wait to start finding out in a week or so <3

[Westlo]

Yeah the 25 cliff hanger was far worse than 23's so aren't you glad you were able to hold out (for various reasons) until now!

I'll make a CGR2 thread today, I know what happens in the first episode but I'm not saying squat about it.

[mikedude]

I wonder how long it's gonna take for us to get some answers. This whole Rollo business is really suspicious to me. I don't buy it for a second that he's Lelouch's brother that just happened to come out of nowhere. Coupled with the fact that we haven't heard anything about Nunnally.. I think there's some shady business going on.

[Westlo]

On that issue people suspected an Escaflowne, the CG producers shot that down very quick. Why would they shot it down so quick though...

[mikedude]

On that issue people suspected an Escaflowne, the CG producers shot that down very quick. Why would they shot it down so quick though...

I'm not necessarily saying that Rollo = Nunnally (that'd be too weird even for Geass, I think), but I do think somebody has probably kidnapped Nunnally and Rollo is a spy or some other person with ill-intent. Why nobody seems to recognize this is probably brainwashing or some other Geass user's ability. It's just too coincidental for Rollo to show up out of the blue AND Nunnally having seemingly disappeared.

[Buster Blader 126]

I wonder how long it's gonna take for us to get some answers. This whole Rollo business is really suspicious to me. I don't buy it for a second that he's Lelouch's brother that just happened to come out of nowhere. Coupled with the fact that we haven't heard anything about Nunnally.. I think there's some shady business going on.

I have to agree with you. It really seems like he'll be popping up from out out nowhere. Hopefully there'll be an explanation for this down the road.

Judging from what I've heard, events will be taking place on a more global scale, if I remember correctly. I really wonder how Sunrise will pull this off. I also don't see how they're going to pull off the continuation of the "daily school life" thing, especially if Lelouch continues to go to school while Viletta is hunting him down.

[angelx03]

I really wonder how Sunrise will pull this off. I also don't see how they're going to pull off the continuation of the "daily school life" thing, especially if Lelouch continues to go to school while Viletta is hunting him down.

I sense a comedic plot device with that one (of course that's for the time being). :grin:

[William K]

I wonder how long it's gonna take for us to get some answers. This whole Rollo business is really suspicious to me. I don't buy it for a second that he's Lelouch's brother that just happened to come out of nowhere. Coupled with the fact that we haven't heard anything about Nunnally.. I think there's some shady business going on.

I have to agree with you. It really seems like he'll be popping up from out out nowhere. Hopefully there'll be an explanation for this down the road.

Judging from what I've heard, events will be taking place on a more global scale, if I remember correctly. I really wonder how Sunrise will pull this off. I also don't see how they're going to pull off the continuation of the "daily school life" thing, especially if Lelouch continues to go to school while Viletta is hunting him down.

Especially since Viletta is apparently the physical education teacher in the school :)

[Ryuuroden]

Though I do have to say about Nina... damn what a makeover

You mean this? :P
http://www.geass.jp/world_03_ex.html?pid=chara_10.html


Oh snap! O.O :virgin:

now the big question is, will we see THAT nina table humping