Monster Impressions

[roastedpekingduck]

Over three years after Monster first started airing, I finally began watching it today after it seemed like I no longer show wait for a license, seeing that chances of a Monster license don't look so bright.

From the beginning, I was utterly mesmerized by the show. With its complex, yet exceptionally intriguing storyline, Monster was able to pack substantial developments in each episode that always kept me watching. Behind the great plot, substantial character development was also there. Dr. Tenma already changed quite a bit...in only the first four episodes. I can't wait to see how he continues as a character and how other characters that are added to the fold develop. I found the writing from the start to be phenomenal, and not just by anime standards. The maturity with which the story is told is so markedly different from what I've seen that already, I can say that Monster blows most anime I've seen out of the water. The lines in the show quickly made me think about my own self. Though Mr. Junkers, the petty lockpicker only got a bit of screen time, he definitely had a great scene where he heartbreakingly describes how he just wanted that clock. Watching Dr. Tenma's dilemma as he finally decides what he must do as a doctor was also some great stuff. Dr. Tenma is a really admirable character. Beyond that, the show has already fit so much stuff into four episodes, it's insane, and yet everything is given room. I saw themes about racism, gold-digging, bureaucratic wrangling, power, ambition, life-preservation, among others. I'm going to be beyond impressed if all of the themes are executed and developed throughout the storyline, as Monster already has a lot of stuff on its plate.

The thing that struck me the most about Monster is the dramatic irony. If there was a word I would use to describe my initial impressions of Monster, that word would be "irony." Besides the obvious irony that the boy that Tenma saves becomes a mass murderer, Monster seethed with irony, from Tenma's promotion to Eva's mistake of dumping Tenma.

I frankly can't wait to see more of Monster and want it to be licensed even more. I knew I would like Monster from the moment I read its premise, but I didn't know I would like it this much. Well, I guess I now have to follow a 74 episode "Monster" in addition to my already packed Spring/Summer season of shows.

[Andrew Cunningham]

I feel like I keep saying this, to the point where it might irritate people - but this was another really well done adaption, so faithful to the manga that I just didn't see the point.
No matter how well done, I'd rather go with the original rather than the adaption.

[roastedpekingduck]

If I buy the Monster manga...that'll likely trigger my urge to buy manga in addition to anime, which I've held off for quite a while, so I guess I'm going to go with the anime.

Anyhow, I watched to more episodes, and it becomes even more intriguing as some tidbits are dropped and the mystery becomes bigger. By the way, irony appears again with the reporter. :( The reporter tells Tenma not to die on him...except the reporter is the one who ends up dying. :( I see lots more dramatic irony to come.

[DKL]

I dunno... Masayuki Kojima's sense of cinematic presentation really does the subject matter well; scenes such as the:

SUPER SPOILERS!

Munich University fire really made a bigger impact animated.

But yeah, it's that competent sense of filmmaking that really sells the anime; it's not like they were twiddling their thumbs when they adapted this (well, that and the trips to Germany sound awesome).

[Illusion]

Monster is by far one of the most brilliant, intelligent series I have ever had the privilege of encountering. The way the story is weaved is so complex and intertwined that it's just incredible. It's a show I definitely need to rewatch, as when I initially watched it, I left a huge gap of time between watching the eps in the middle of the series.

Being quite lengthy, it does get a bit formulatic in the middle, but the overarching story highly compensates for that, and the last arc is so gripping and effectively chilling that I couldn't stop watching.

[littleharlock]

I feel like I keep saying this, to the point where it might irritate people - but this was another really well done adaption, so faithful to the manga that I just didn't see the point.
No matter how well done, I'd rather go with the original rather than the adaption.

I guess I understand what you mean. So faithful and maybe a bit too faithful at times. Ultimately I do think though that elements an (anime) adaption is able to add to a work like this (i.e. the througout decent job by the seiyuu, the fitting music or the at times eye-candy animation *though I will never get used to Eva's hair-coloring ^_~*) are good points for such an adaption (if *this* makes any sense at all ^_^").

Anyways the only problem I have with the MONSTER TV anime is that I do feel it hard to rewatch the series.
Having purchased all 5 jp DVD boxes I find myself sticking to rewatch the MONSTER Premium DVD (http://dragonautics.co.at/community/usrpages/lhnl/blog/?p=35) rather than the series all over again from the very start (and the story nature of MONSTER just isn't something one can easily watch one or two episodes inbetween)

[DKL]

I've actually seen all of Master Keaton about 5 times, so I imagine that it won't be very difficult for me to re-watch this (actually, I've already seen all of this 3 times, but stopped afterwards... mainly because I was anticipating some kind of DVD release, which hasn't happened yet, unfortunately)

Oh yeah, I still need to finish up Keaton again, actually; stopped at disc 4 last time.

But yes, the way Urasawa tells a story is pretty much suited for filmmaking; the way things are drawn are pretty much the equivalent of storyboards (though, nicely enough, the anime adds a lot of detail to some things... one of my favorites being that one story "The 5th Spoonful of Sugar")...

Actually, Monster would make for a nice live-action adaptation, but it would take a ridiculous amount of money to do it [right], hence why animation makes sense (as the final product is not only faithful, but competently told and animated).

German dub would be cool though.

[littleharlock]

I've actually seen all of Master Keaton about 5 times, so I imagine that it won't be very difficult for me to re-watch this (actually, I've already seen all of this 3 times, but stopped afterwards... mainly because I was anticipating some kind of DVD release, which hasn't happened yet, unfortunately)

Master Keaton is episodical told instead of the big continueous plot of MONSTER (divided up in various smaler sub-arcs giving the huge cast of characters more focus/development as the story moves on).
So the problem I have with rewatching MONSTER is..time. It's no fun rewatching single episodes out of place of the series and properly rewatching the whole 70+ episodes does require time (which I sadly don't have much of recently).
Heck even rewatching the Premium DVD does take several hours :bigsmile:


the anime adds a lot of detail to some things... one of my favorites being that one story "The 5th Spoonful of Sugar")...

The love for the detail put into both by Urasawa in the manga as well as by the anime staff is another element that makes MONSTER such an enjoyable read/watch. I mean, just little details about the locations/cities/countries the story is set in, but it's amazing in how accurate these have been portrayed in both the manga as well as in the anime (I was totally freaked/fascinated when I spotted "Schlecker" on the canvas cover of a track in episode 1 ^_~)

Speaking of which one of my favorite extras added on the jp DVDs was the photo gallery of the staff's trip through Europe (or better said the countries/cities important to the story/setting of MONSTER).
It was a lot of fun to skim through the Munich photos taken by the team and recognizing places on has been to as well ^_^

[DKL]

Hmmm...

That makes sense; when I think about it, the only reason why I can re-watch that stuff so much is because I have TOO MUCH free-time on my hands.

That said...

I'd really like to see those staff photos...

Argh, come on!

Where's the R1 license?!

*not happening*

[HellKorn]

Monster is not the type of series to watch/read some and casually put it aside. You're definitely better off by taking it all in large batches, quickly, et cetera.

I've only read the manga, but I know I would've gone crazy if I hadn't read it before Viz finally started churning out the volumes and had to wait for each release an eighteen volume series on a bi-monthly schedule. Taking it all in allows you to better appreciate to scope and careful plotting that Urasawa creates. Same thing could be applied to the anime with waiting for each new episode.

20th Century Boys, for its first twelve or so volumes, trumps Monster in every way, and I would like to see an anime adaption of that where we might see some of the shoddy storytelling later on be tightened up.

[ibby]

Having fhinsihed the series about one or two years ago, I can see why some would have trouble rewatching the series.I will admit that Monster was I really liked where side characters get a lot of character development, while also advacing the plot. I thought that Eve Heinemann was an interesting character as the series develops, despite having some sort comings. I also really liked Inspector Lunge, and his odd detective skills.

I also think that Monster won't see the light of day here, though I still have my fingers crossed.

[roastedpekingduck]

The Dieter arc was just excellent stuff. Not only did it reveal elements of the plot and provide insight into Johan's sinister background at 511 Kinderheim, the character development of Tenma and the supporting characters was really moving stuff.

Since I don't like the ending song, I skipped past the ED sequence most of the time, but recently, after watching the ED several times, I've notice that it's quite creepy. What the hell is that...thing? Is that thing supposed to signify Johan?

[DKL]

DIETER!! DIETEEEEERRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, that was great.

ANYWAY, just keep paying attention to the thing in the ED credits.

[roastedpekingduck]

That Petra episode was a pretty nice break from the main storyline. Again, excellent development from multiple characters.

I now know why that thing looks so creepy by the way...it looks like those monsters that appeared in picture books when I was little.

[roastedpekingduck]

Despite the fact that Monster is usually dead serious, it manages to pack some funny moments nonetheless. Watching Dieter chug that drink down was hilarious. :D Anyhow, I'm watching the Turkish town arc right now. The Baby is a douche, to say the least.

[DKL]

NAZI POWER!

That said, I wonder if the "Be my Baby" song would ever cause some kinda trouble should this show be licensed.

All things considering... it was an appropriate theme song for him.

[roastedpekingduck]

NINA POWER!
The Turkish arc was one nice arc. Though Monster has one continuous plot, it seems like the series is split into "arcs" of sorts, each targeting a different theme, except all arcs are linked by revelations to Johan. This arc developed the theme of racism quite well.

Though Tenma continues to be awesome, Nina and Dieter won the arc for me. Nina's determination came through wonderfully in this arc, and it was great seeing her get ready to kick ass, despite being dressed in her prostitute attire. Mamiko Noto is just an amazing voice actress, and I've liked all of her characters that I've heard her play. She can be real seductive with that soft voice of hers one moment, and then quiet, yet strong the next. Dieter was a plain badass. I know Dieter never ceased to amuse me. Dieter's jesting with the thief comes to mind, but the scene of Dieter chugging down that drink tops everything. :D

Anyhow, I can't help but to root for Tenma, Dieter, and Nina, and definitely want to watch more. I'm completely hooked. I've already watched 17 episodes, but the show's still only just begun.

[christianlf]

NAZI POWER!

That said, I wonder if the "Be my Baby" song would ever cause some kinda trouble should this show be licensed.

All things considering... it was an appropriate theme song for him.


Monster has a few songs (for some reason, "Let's Stay Together" by the Reverend :D , Al Green, is the only one coming to mind at the moment, but I know there's at least one more...) in it that would need to be wrangled over, so I'm sure that only further detracts from companies wanting to license a show with such limited appeal in the first place.

[roastedpekingduck]

"I was cheating too."

Man, what a line. It's really amazing how Tenma is able to change everybody he meets for the better. The more I watch Monster, the more I realize that Monster is deeply rooted in Master Keaton. Monster may have an engrossing story, but it's also quite uplifting and character-based at the same time. Episode 18 was quite excellent as well in developing Nina/Anna. The "five spoonfuls of sugar" was a memorable touch. I love how Monster takes episodic breaks to develop its characters while still involving the main storyline.


About the continuously changing ending though...WTF happened?! The green monster was suddenly sucked up by the fat guy! O.O

[roastedpekingduck]

Christ, every episode of Monster is just a minefield of good lines. The lines from the old ex-detective about identifying criminals was some nice introspective stuff. Urasawa's writing talent is just impressive and saved the scriptwriters a lot of hassle. I'm simply beginning to love Monster's semi-episodic format. It allows for so many rich characters and character growth. Every episode has a memorable message.

[christianlf]

About the continuously changing ending though...WTF happened?! The green monster was suddenly sucked up by the fat guy! O.O

Heh, pay attention to it. It's actually very relevant and very important to the later parts of the story. :)

[roastedpekingduck]

About the continuously changing ending though...WTF happened?! The green monster was suddenly sucked up by the fat guy! O.O

Heh, pay attention to it. It's actually very relevant and very important to the later parts of the story. :)

The ED is actually quite amusing as it basically changes every 6-7 episodes into something quite unexpected.

[HellKorn]

Every episode has a memorable message.

That is one thing that annoys the heck outta me with Monster. I understand good intentions and all, but some of the little side stories that Urasawa inserts seem so contrive that it boils down to him putting in an obligatory good-feel portion to dull the overcast that the series usually has.

It's one problem that he managed to correct in 20th Century Boys, at least; Pluto also doesn't fall into that trap (it helps when there are no happy moments, though).

[DKL]

I dunno; I actually really liked those moments when the show would just slow down and take us into these little journeys of culture and interesting characters.

And it didn't feel contrived at all; pretty well-integrated into the story really.

I mean, it just proves that the characters aren't like... robots that only get stirred in the direction of the story; Tenma gets pretty hardcore, but he never really forgets who he is as a person; it actually kinda accounts into some of the decisions he makes later on...

Such as SUPER SPOILERS... no, really, don't look into here unless you've seen it all:

When he decided to change the location of where he was gonna murder Johan.

Oh man, talking about that, I really liked that one in the anime.

That said, the potency of some of these stories, you can actually also see in Kojima's other show, Hanada Shonen Shi.

Or... you know, the other Urasawa show he did, Master Keaton.

That said... I see Monster as pretty much a very good drama, not necessarily the mystery thriller it makes it out to be most of the time... it just so happens to link a lot of the stuff into this huge plot.

Oh, and the characters are great... I literally almost can't overlap anyone's personality.

Also, my comments would be more comprehensive, but I've been getting really lazy over the last few days for some reason.

I'm kinda... on and off now.

[HellKorn]

Mind's too frayed to pull up any examples, but some of the introspective chapters came across as forced. "The bright light at the end of the tunnel" somehow always sprung up, and while well-intentioned, I didn't buy all of them.

That said, it's my only major mark against Monster, as the rest of the story is quite excellent. (I suppose I need to get around to Hanada Shounen-shi, too.)

[DKL]

Hanada is one of the few [newer] shows I've seen where there's this competent grasp and understanding of poor life...

Some of the drama that comes out of that thing is masterful as hell; there's this distinct sensibility present that you'd usually only see in live-action stuff.

(which... is actually one of the more fascinating things about anime that some might tend to overlook... I mean, the productions can get REALLY elaborate and gorgeous... and it's not so much depenedent on money as it is your artistic talent *money still helps though, I hear*)

That said, yeah, Monster has some idealized stuff going on (much like Keaton did... here, it just so happens to be a doctor who's this brilliant neuro-surgeon), but I never really thought it got in the way since it was sold pretty well (in a sense that I didn't even know a sale was going on).

And when it came down to it, it could get downright BRUTAL.

(as this is a show that... SUPER SPOILERS again, no lookie if you no... uhh... finish the show... killed off a good chunk of its extremely well-developed characters... everyone from Martin the gangster to Maurer the reporter... it's amazing how well we got to know these people before they got capped... most affecting death probably being Grimmer's )

...

Wait, what was I talking about?

[roastedpekingduck]

Mind's too frayed to pull up any examples, but some of the introspective chapters came across as forced. "The bright light at the end of the tunnel" somehow always sprung up, and while well-intentioned, I didn't buy all of them.

After watching a few more episodes, I'm extremely happy that Monster's overarching storyline cancels out some of the worse-off standalone episodes. While the standalone episodes were initially nice, it sometimes feels like the series is obligated to "take a break" when it hits a really nice stride to its storyline. I also dislike the fact that unfortunately, it seems that every standalone needs to provide a moral, when just character development would have been perfectly fine.

Monster's weaknesses was one of the reasons I never bought Master Keaton. I liked Master Keaton for its extremely excellent episodic storytelling, but the fact that it neither had an overarching plot nor major character development, gave me "so what?" feeling sometimes. I wish there were a lot more multi-episode arcs like the last one that built up Keaton's personality. It's interesting to see that in a way, Dr. Tenma is like "Master Keaton with more character development." I still thought Master Keaton was excellent though, and regret not buying it, especially as it's going OOP now, and I'm broke, so I can't order it from Rightstuf. It's a pity that Hokusei Katushika, the co-author of Master Keaton died, so Naoki Urasawa stopped as well and moved on to other things. I've heard that before the other dude's death, a conclusion was planned.

[Dagger]

For me Monster is about the journey, not the destination. I was so impressed by the sprawling cast & interweaving subplots--they were what made the show for me, at least more so than the central revelations and the end-of-series climax. And I just couldn't believe that someone like Eva ended up being my favorite character. (I still can't believe it, for that matter. :sd: )

[DKL]

Actually, my favorite moments in the series were those aforementioned "so what" moments...

(one of my favorite episodes is "The Fifth Spoonful of Sugar", actually... I also really liked "Journey to Freiham" *or... however I spell it... that episode with the English couple*)

I mean, aside from being an interesting journey into culture and characterization, the writing and direction comes across as masterful; I mean, to the very least, it sort of feels like whoever's telling the story at the time isn't navigating the story using his dick.

Essentially what made Hanada Shonen Shi and Keaton really good; it's that keen level of detail and sense of cinematic presentation poured into conveying those "small moments" that really puts it above the usual stuff; no gimmicks, just good storytelling.

If anything, it's probably the reason why the bigger stuff makes an impact; it's just more obvious when the big stuff happens.

But yeah... Monster's thriller suspense, in the end, is really only second to the meanningful character interaction and powerful drama.

That said, subbing on Hanada is taking a LONG time; the last arc was amazing.

[roastedpekingduck]

After watching to episode 30, I'm left with just a few words...
Johan is one hell of a scary motherfucker. O.O
Poor Richard... :(

By the way, that old doctor Reichwein is ridiculously cool. My admiration for him increased tenfold when he knocked one of those creeps over with one punch. By the way, oh shit, it's Roberto! I'm so glad that Tenma was able to save Reichwein by the way. I'd hate to have another nice character get killed so quickly.

[roastedpekingduck]

Wow...everything about episode 37 was just masterfully done. The buildup to this mid-series climax that begins in episode 37 was just exceptional. Slowly but surely, the pieces for the commemoration ceremony began sliding into place ever since this arc began. As the chaos began to unfold, I just found myself sitting back and in awe of Johan.

Besides the climax itself, I'm insanely impressed at how Monster without a Name was introduced into Monster. Monster without a Name takes the word "metaphor" into a whole new level. The picture book animation was really cool, and Mamiko Noto's narration also worked wonderfully. Her voice sounded really cute by the way as she read the story. :neko:

My favorite things about Monster at this point are amount of character connections and "coincidences" now that bring the characters together. With each arc, the characters begin separated, but as an arc climax approaches, the characters begin to come back together and intertwine to create spectacular climaxes. These climaxes aren't necessarily of the awe-inspiring because of scale or epicness, but instead due to what takes place on the level of the characters.

Anyhow, on to episode 38 next, as the climax continues.

[roastedpekingduck]

I thought Monster was exceptional, but in these two episodes, Monster has become even better. At this point, I'm only starting to feel like I'm getting into the meat of the story. It's really hit its stride, and I may have to even watch a few more episodes tonight.

[DKL]

"WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY NAMES."

[roastedpekingduck]

It seems like again we are first going to start with a supporting character(s) and then reintroduce the characters as the arc climax approaches. While we had Schuwald, Richard, Gillen, Reichwein, and Karl in the "initiator" roles last arc, it looks like Grimmer has taken the role this arc. Grimmer is a really likable person and quite similar to Tenma in many ways, so he makes a nice new character.
While episodes 40 and 41 were a bit slower, 42 kicked up the storyline again with the revelations about 511 Kinderheim. By the way...what the hell?! The woman that shot Reinhard looked quite a bit like Nina. Oh, the suspense! Hopefully I'll get to watch 43 soon.

[roastedpekingduck]

Looks like I meant 39-41 instead of 42. Episode 42 was just fucking intense. I'd even say it was one of the best episodes from the series so far. The intensity of the torture completely engrossed me. Looks like a woman who looks awfully like Nina Fortner showed up again. Man, this suspense is just killer. The Magnificent Steiner element was real interesting as well and provided additional depth for Grimmer's character. Monster so far has had the most amount of metaphors I've seen in any series.

[roastedpekingduck]

Nina...what happened?! :cry:
I had hoped that she would not turn into that second monster described in Monster without a Name, but it looks like that is the case now and she has descended into darkness with the killing and poisonous candy.:(

By the way, a new supporting character Suk, has been introduced. He's quite the naive guy. :sd: How many more supporting characters will appear? On another note, it looks like "big" Roberto is back as well.

[roastedpekingduck]

O.O ...F***
That was one hell of a twist at the end. "Nina" was actually...JOHAN!!! Even though I saw that coming when Dr. Tenma was having the conversation about twins, I still was shocked out of my mind. That episode just made me feel really bad for Suk. :sd: Johan must be one extremely skillful crossdresser.

[DKL]

You know, I think the weird thing about that one plot point was that it was surprisingly plausible...

[Njr Scrawl]

Just finished watching Monster. I thought Eva was confusing, but Johan's revelation is a kick in the head! Is the manga clearer or has more story, because I'm very confused about what happens to Johan & Nina!

[roastedpekingduck]

Holy fucking crap. I just finished Monster too and was about to bring up my own thread.! O.O
http://animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/22697/post/515850/hl/Monster+dicussion/fromsearch/1/#515850
Monster is basically a frame by frame adaptation of the manga.

I thought it was pretty clear how things were going to go though. Our main cast of surviving characters were going on happily ever after. Johan was going to go after his mother. Essentially, the series showed that "monsters" are every where in the world and every one is capable of evil. Monster also showed that history tends to repeat itself. Johan was saved by Tenma yet again due to Tenma's kindness, but for all we know, Johan could have gone on a rampage again.

[roastedpekingduck]

Well, after four months, I finally finished Monster. While some of the middle episodes dragged, the buildup to the final climax and the final climax itself at the small town was just breathtaking stuff.
Mr. Grimmer :cry:
The ending didn't play out in an extremely satisfying manner, but it did its job and tied up most of the characters' loose ends, while leaving the thread involving Johan and his mother still open.
Anyhow, I'll buy the manga as soon as I can.
My only major dislike of the series are that some things were overplayed. Watching Nina have to become unconscious or go insane every time she had a flashback became kind of irritating. The "I don't have a name!" and "That man is a m-m-monster!" motifs also got overplayed at times.

[DKL]

One of the key things you just gotta remember is that:

Anna is the name of the mother of the twins

And that pretty much ties a lot of stuff together (including Johan's confusion in regards to using "A Monster Without A Name" as his memory device thingy while he was staying at Kinderheim)...

...

In fact, they were kinda waving that fact [about the name] in our faces the entire time, yet it felt like people wouldn't catch on somehow (there was even an ENTIRE sequence where Lunge was reading that poem thing, followed by the picture on the wall...)...

Oh yes, and I'm alive; just had too much stuff going on and couldn't find the time to post in the AoD forums...

Actually, it wasn't really any productive things, but like...

I got lazy.

That said, I enjoy the anime a lot better than the manga (which I buy mainly because I still wanna see the anime makes its trip to R1 land) since Kojima's grasp of cinematic storytelling in anime feels like it's almost second to none.

(and people really need to see Hanada Shonen Shi; it's awesome)

[Njr Scrawl]

O.O ...F***
That was one hell of a twist at the end. "Nina" was actually...JOHAN!!! Even though I saw that coming when Dr. Tenma was having the conversation about twins, I still was shocked out of my mind. That episode just made me feel really bad for Suk. :sd: Johan must be one extremely skillful crossdresser.

(Could a mod join my new thread with this one please?)

Cut to the final episode. Their mother gave up Nina, seemingly on second thoughts, instead of Johan. Both were identical as girls, only Johan's deeper voice gave him away.

That scene is so like the onne in Sophie's Choice (Meryl Streep), it gave me chills. Their mother's face expressions were exceptional.

But the episode you refer to is more headkicking than any in Ceres (which has loads of shocks) & of course Evangelion, which is more puzzling than shocking.

So the real Nina is happy, which to me is what matters most.

Monster should be licensed for R1. It is bigger than being just anime, or even animation IMO. Its Akira, Ceres, gothic horror & Stephen King all in 1 show. Big series, but so addictive/ & marathonable that the episodes roll by in their tens.

Top 10 headspinners with Akira, Eva, Lain, GiTS, Ceres, Angel's Egg, Master Keaton, Gasaraki, Utena.

[Njr Scrawl]

Certainly has rewatch value, as there are things that you miss 1st time, & even 2nd.

The licensing "Catch-22" (as for other good shows) is that nobody can appreciate how good or popular a show like this is until it has been licensed & released. But (they) also need to have potential buyer lure to give companies a heads up that it might catch on, for when they next go shopping...

[DKL]

I think the thing about that one moment in the end where Tenma puts the pieces in his head together (that being the sequence where he supposedly had this conversation with Johan in the ending) is that the mother of the twins [Anna] was too consumed by the anger of seeing Poppe again to realize what she was doing (or which twin was which, for that matter).

That said, I'm really under the impression that she wanted to send Johan in, but kinda botched it (since she couldn't tell who was who); yeah... she was pretty obsessed with killing Poppe and it seems like she figured Johan out to be kinda different from the start.

But, who knows?

It could be whatever; still reading through the manga to check my ideas.

That said, needs moar epic... like right nao.

[Gatts]

(Could a mod join my new thread with this one please?)

Done as requested. :)

[Njr Scrawl]

Thanks. :content: