G-GIANT ROBO?!...impressions

[roastedpekingduck]

Hot damn!

I thought I wouldn't enjoy GR after hear some people say that it was similar to Gurren Lagann, which I'm not really a fan of, but man did episodes one and two provide the most fun I've seen in quite a while. I think Giant Robo redefined the phrase "over the top" for me. Giant Robo is "over the top" done absolutely right. Giant Robo was so epic that each episode felt like a mini-film to me. In fact, I shouldn't even say that. I almost didn't even notice the break between episode one and two in the middle and felt like I had watched an entire movie.

The thing that impressed me the most and likely contributed to the cinematic feel was the soudntrack, that godly awesome soundtrack. Giant Robo's soundtrack is probably one of the finest anime soundtracks I've ever heard. Hell, that music was right up there with some of the best movie scores that I've heard. It's a damn shame the soundtracks are out of print. It's really rare to see any anime make full use of a full-blown orchestra and choir and do it extremely well. I daresay that I probably would have enjoyed Giant Robo only half as much without the soundtrack. Though each piece could generate different feelings, such as tragedy, boldness, fear, apprehension, and manliness, the one thing that united all the tracks was that they exuded epicness with every note.

The other thing I really enjoyed about Giant Robo was its spontaneous "let's all explode with our powers" atmosphere. All of the prominent characters are loaded with fantastic abilities and are not afraid to use them at any time. I also love how GR doesn't give any explanation into their abilities and delves straight into the fighting without any nonsense. The characters have rather creative abilities as well. I imagine the writers had a grand time thinking up the characters and what they could do. "What about Professor Go?"..."Let's give him iron fans!" One of my favorite moments so far was when the Commander orders the self-destruction of the Beijing base and prepares to participate in the battle himself. I was expecting another majestic power...only to have a spearman on horseback appear and the horse to turn unexpectedly into a Daoist priest. The randomness of Giant Robo is just great. It even seems like the standard cannon fodder are pretty well trained and get their ass kicked stylishly.

What powers will come next? Gah, I want to watch more but don't have the time.

[Andrew Cunningham]

That blue 'spearman' is a woman.
But yes, Giant Robo remains the greatest anime of all time, largely because no one else is quite crazy enough to top it.
It's sort of a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen project - it takes all the coolest characters from Yokoyama Mitsuteru's entire body of work and slams them all together for the most epic epic of all time.
And it does get exponentially more epic with each episode. People have been known to explode while watching the last episode, so be careful.

[roastedpekingduck]

A woman...whoops... :sd:
One thing I forgot to mention was how awesome the animation is for something that was initially made in 1992. That's some of the best animation I've ever seen, and the even more impressing things was that no digital shortcuts existed at the time so it was all done cel by cel.

[Andrew Cunningham]

That's why each episode took forever to come out and the series went wildly over budget.
Well worth it, but there's a reason the sequel (http://easternstandard.pbwiki.com/Giant+Robo) 's a manga.
I have five of the soundtracks, but never managed to track down the other three.

[roastedpekingduck]

How did Giant Robo do in Japan at the time? Was GR popular enough to make surpassing its budget worth it?

[Andrew Cunningham]

It was popular enough to get finished.
That's actually a fairly impressive feat.
But it sounds like it took a while for Imagawa's career to recover. He really didn't do anything watchable until Tetsujin 28go. But that did well enough to get a movie after the TV series finished.

[bobma]

Glad to have another fan on board. If you liked ep1 and 2, you'll have a blast with the remaining episodes. For me, GR remains one of the all time greats in anime history and especially the final episodes still manage to move me like few other shows can.

Everything in it screams EPIC and I like how the series feels like a small glimpse at a long ongoing series, that features one of THE big climax arcs in that universe, where everything and everyone clashes together. And the ending conveyes well how despite everything that happened "the story will go on (tm)". All central characters are memorable and feel like they have a long history, even though we don't see everything about them explained and as you mentioned, the technical aspects of it aged well and are still something to behold and listen to. Giant Robo = a work of love.

Hmm, I think I'll go rewatch it now...

[Sean_Connolly]

People have been known to explode while watching the last episode, so be careful.

I have witnessed this. I've lost two girlfriends this way because they just couldn't handle the power of Giant Robo's epic awesomeness.

No great loss. If they couldn't handle Giant Robo, I didn't need them anyways. :>

[HellKorn]

Glad that you've taken a shine to it, roastedpekingduck. Wasn't too sure how you'd take to it since over-the-top mecha doesn't seem to hold your interest, but it's a nice surprise.

People have been known to explode while watching the last episode, so be careful.

No fucking joke there. I went practically insane at the end. Like I mentioned in the recent Media Blasters' recommendation thread, I can't recall any other piece of fiction's finale affecting like Giant Robo did.

I really should watch it again soon. It took me a couple episodes to really dig it, but when it took hold of me it never let go. A repeat viewing is in order to appreciate its greatness in its entirety.

And the manga really is a sequel, not a re-imagining? If that's the case, damn, I want it licensed.

[Andrew Cunningham]

Well, prequel sequel.
Actually a completely new continuity, but the style and appeal are exactly the same. The art is a little less retro, which was probably a good idea - the Jojoesque traces really give it the edge that lack of music might otherwise have diminished. Volume two comes out next month, and I can't wait.

[Dagger]

No fucking joke there. I went practically insane at the end.
God, seriously. And I second you in wanting the manga.

GR is one of those anime that I get the urge to rewatch whenever I see someone start a thread about it or review it or whatnot.

[Fencedude]

I was actually somewhat disappointed in Giant Robo

I mean, it wasn't BAD by any stretch of the imagination, but I felt like it was less than it could have been.

Add in the fact that the Giant Robo itself was almost extraneous, and it and Daisuke were really far, far less interesting than basically everyone else, and could easily have been removed without seriously affecting the plot.

Also the fact that it was part two of a trilogy, when parts 1 and 3 don't even exist kinda...sucks.

[Mr. Nail Bat]

Giant Robo is the greatest OVA I've ever seen, and I don't expect to ever see a greater one. It is the last word in epic, picaresque adventure.

Masamichi Amano's score goes to eleven.

[roastedpekingduck]

Goddamnit. All of these comments make me want to entirely throw my English essay by the wayside and keep on watching.

[ZenAmako]

I'm always in awe when I see the box set at Best Buy selling for $15.99 (Ginrei specials included!). If that's not a steal, I don't know what is.

Each episode sold for close to $100 when the series was first being released in Japan.

[Andrew Cunningham]

I grabbed the Japanese DVDs on Yahoo Auctions when I realized they were out of print, and paid about $150 for them.
No subs though, so when I saw how cheap the set is going for I picked it up again on general principle.
And failed to impress my heathen siblings with its glory.

[Legion]

Although DBZ was the show that got me into this type of animation, Giant Robo did a lot to mold me into the kind of anime fan I am nowadays. It got me interested in classic animes, retro designs, even Japanese voice acting. What I love about Giant Robo is there's almost always something important (read: awesome) happening, it doesn't get bogged down by putting the main storyline on pause for episodic adventures, filler material or nonsense like that. Giant Robo has a story to tell and it tells it in such a grandiose way, constantly raising the stakes. It is, as I've said so many times, my favorite anime, bar none.

Can't wait to read your post after you watch the final episode, rostedpekingduck. It is something else, an explosion of epic awesomeness. My reactions to the last episode basically amounted to "Oh shit," "Oh shit!" and "Oh shit!!"

I'd love to see that manga translated to English too.

[christianlf]

Heh....told ya so. :P

[Garasharp K7]

I was actually somewhat disappointed in Giant Robo

I mean, it wasn't BAD by any stretch of the imagination, but I felt like it was less than it could have been.

Add in the fact that the Giant Robo itself was almost extraneous, and it and Daisuke were really far, far less interesting than basically everyone else, and could easily have been removed without seriously affecting the plot.

Also the fact that it was part two of a trilogy, when parts 1 and 3 don't even exist kinda...sucks.


That's pretty much what I thought about Giant Robo when I first watched the series. I liked it, but for a show that features a giant robot, you'd expect to see more of it doing it's thing - fighting other huge robots an' such. Plus those other mechanical monsters in the opening sequence: where were they? I was hoping to see some epic robot battles to go with the epic characters and storyline, but that wasn't the case. What was there was great, but I would've liked to see more.

[Sean_Connolly]

Each episode sold for close to $100 when the series was first being released in Japan.


But remember, anime is still too expensive in the US. *cackles*

Sorry, got into one of those discussions recently. Ugh.

[mikedude]

I was actually somewhat disappointed in Giant Robo

I mean, it wasn't BAD by any stretch of the imagination, but I felt like it was less than it could have been.

Add in the fact that the Giant Robo itself was almost extraneous, and it and Daisuke were really far, far less interesting than basically everyone else, and could easily have been removed without seriously affecting the plot.

Also the fact that it was part two of a trilogy, when parts 1 and 3 don't even exist kinda...sucks.


This is basically how I feel too. I mean, sure, the animation was lovely, the music was great, it was entertaining.. but I was by no means blown away. I really hated Daisaku as a character.

I think it became too self-aware of its own epic-ness towards the end. It crossed over into 'kinda ridiculous' territory for me.

[Panon]

It was popular enough to get finished.
That's actually a fairly impressive feat.
But it sounds like it took a while for Imagawa's career to recover. He really didn't do anything watchable until Tetsujin 28go. But that did well enough to get a movie after the TV series finished.

Did you just call G Gundam "not watchable"?

[Andrew Cunningham]

He did that during, not after. G Gundam is, obviously, the most (if not only) watchable Gundam series.

[Vicserr]

That's the main draw about Giant Robo, it's massive amounts of Epic-ness packaged in an all out balls to the walls ovas, great characters and one cool to the max Giant Robot ;) O.O

[Thanatos]

He did that during, not after. G Gundam is, obviously, the most (if not only) watchable Gundam series.

Did you just call Gundam 0080 "not watchable"? :(

[roastedpekingduck]

I was originally planning to watch episodes three and four today, but halfway through episode three, my mom kicked me off the television so she could continue to watch her Chinese soaps. :angry: I was so excited about getting to watch the Battle of Shanghai too...

Well, I guess some time in between each episode might actually do more benefit and allow the epicness of each episode to sink in. Also, waiting a few weeks is still a much shorter time than the years the Japanese had to originally cope with.

The only minor complaint I have so far isn't even really related to the show itself. A problem I have is that as good as the music is, it sometimes is too overpowering. I could barely hear the voices in some of the scenes today because the music blanketed out the voices. Has anyone else gotten a similar problem? I tried tweaking the options on my receiver a bit, but to no avail.

[roastedpekingduck]

What better way to start a new week then to watch more episodes of Giant Robo! Well, after watching episode 1 & 2 last week, I sat down to and marathoned 3,4,5, and 6. It's quite unfortunate that I had to stop right after the last episode. Indeed, that was some damn good stuff I watched today.

Again, major props to Masamichi Amano for the music. The score is just so layered and full of depth. Unlike many other anime scores that fall a bit flat due to its simplicity, the depth and layeredness of Giant Robo's soundtrack really provided for an awesome experience. Masamichi certainly made full use of the orchestra. Brass instruments boomed while timpanis rolled in the background and strings did their stuff. My favorite track though is probably the piece that plays during the Bashtarle flashbacks. The male vocal gives such a sad and melancholic feeling.

Besides the music, the other components of Giant Robo remained quite high quality as well.
The fact that the animation was breathtaking goes without saying. The frame rate was real smooth and the attention to detail was quite impeccable. The fights really looked like something with the splendid animation.

For the story elements, there was substantial amount of stuff going on. While the conflict revolving around the eye of Vogler remained the main focus, there were other personal conflicts and revelations about the past as well.

The Battle of Shanghai arc was fantastic, mostly due to the Taisou and Alberto rivalry. The way Alberto just shoved other matters aside and went to deal with Taisou spoke a good deal about their rivalry. As the two fought, it also became clear why Alberto hesitated in killing Taisou earlier. Alberto's declaration about how he did not want to see the rivalry end in that way after he realized that he indeed had defeated Taisou because Taisou protected the controller thing spoke volumes. It's too bad that we don't know about what happened to them earlier. There were some other things that were left unsaid as well. For example, Issei clearly had a past history with Enshaku. Taisou went out in manly fashion anyhow, and with a huge gaping hole in his side no less. His wife, the Blue Beast, was quite manly as well, but Youshi, like her husband, did have quite the nice exit.

While Giant Robo has been a fun ride, there's been some weaknesses. For one, I felt that the "heroic deaths" happened too quickly in succession. While watching the Celestial Nine sacrifice themselves for Daisaku was heroic stuff, the effect of the deaths was lessened a bit because of the close proximity in time between each death. I guess Youshi was bound to die after Taisou since they were husband and wife, but having Tetsugyu give his life not long after piled too many deaths too quickly. With that said, Tetsugyu could actually still be alive. :sd: Another complaint of mine was the amount of Bashtarle flashbacks. I'm sure they were needed, especially to show Shizuma's insolence and flesh out von Vogler's revenge, but the tower did collapse towards the ground and then blow up a bit too often. My last complaint is nitpicker still, regarding the amount of times Enshaku reappears. The fact that Enshaku doesn't speak didn't make him very interesting to me, and watching him repeatedly come back after our heroes "killed" him annoyed me a bit. Perhaps Enshaku has the same ability as Murasame? By the way, Murasame proved to be one of the more interesting members of Celestial 9, given his previous history with Daisaku and regeneration ability.

Episode 6 was the episode that really floored me. The penultimate episode was just ridiculously awesome and an awesome setup for a conclusion. There were a load of things that happened in this episode. First off, watching the Magnificent 10 infighting was quite interesting. We learn that Alberto the Impact didn't die and that he has one weird daughter. The Magnificent 10 had some nice character designs that gave them a lot of flavor. Unfortunately, I don't remember much of their names. I do remember that watching Big Fire himself appear surprised me, though I didn't expect that he would look like how he did. I also remember that the "rebelling" members of the Magnificent 10 had their asses handed to them. Besides Genya, it looks like another Mag10 member is scheming as well though. Could someone enlighten me on his name? :sd: On Daisaku's end, there was some more epic battling there at the IPO headquarters. While Big Gold was lame, the Mag10 member who sliced things apart while dancing and snapping his fingers was pretty cool. I still didn't care much for Professor Go though. He never did really use his fans again after the second episode and just wasn't that great of a character for me. I only felt a bit sad when watching his fans float away into the water. Murasame was more interesting though, with his speeches about sacrifice and whatnot. Even if Murasame is a master regenerator, I'm guessing he died though because his hat symbolically split apart. With that said, I'm not sure I'll ever be ready to declare someone dead in Giant Robo with finality until the ending credits of the final episode roll. Lastly, watching Chujou in the last part of the episode almost did make me explode. I knew something was up when he appeared walking towards the Eye of Vogler by himself. Then after he took off his suit, loosened his tie, and started jabbing, I began to wonder, "Oh shit, is he going to use that PUNCH THAT CANNOT BE USED?!" Watching him finally use the punch almost made me crap my pants. I indeed had to go to the bathroom right after watching that episode because of the punch.


Even episode 6 didn't make me explode, but it came damn close. Now will episode 7 be awesome enough to explode my organs out of my body? I'll know once I can watch it. :)

[jojo_home]

I was actually somewhat disappointed in Giant Robo

I mean, it wasn't BAD by any stretch of the imagination, but I felt like it was less than it could have been.

Add in the fact that the Giant Robo itself was almost extraneous, and it and Daisuke were really far, far less interesting than basically everyone else, and could easily have been removed without seriously affecting the plot.

Also the fact that it was part two of a trilogy, when parts 1 and 3 don't even exist kinda...sucks.


Maybe, but I thought it added to its comic-book appeal. It was like basically jumping into the first part of a new storyline in an ongoing comic series. I have no doubt it was intended that way.

Honestly, while the robot action wasn't as numerous as expected, it became something else of a surprise--the best team superhero show I've ever seen, and that's including the DC Bruce Timm shows. And I LOVE JLU. But they just don't quite reach the heights that Giant Robo does.

So yeah, Giant Robo may not be the best robot fighting show ever (if it was, I'm not sure it would have reached the status it did), but it's undoubtedly the best team superhero show I've seen.

[LelouchLamperouge]

I'm always in awe when I see the box set at Best Buy selling for $15.99 (Ginrei specials included!). If that's not a steal, I don't know what is.

Each episode sold for close to $100 when the series was first being released in Japan.


I broke down and bought the box set at Best Buy for the scant $16 investment. I haven't watched any yet, but I'm going to sit down and give it my full attention.

Based on the comments thus far, it sounds like this will blow my head off and the my body will spontaneous combust. >_>

I'll post my episode 1-2 comments later. I'll take it slow so I can really appreciate it. You know?

[roastedpekingduck]

I'm always in awe when I see the box set at Best Buy selling for $15.99 (Ginrei specials included!). If that's not a steal, I don't know what is.

Each episode sold for close to $100 when the series was first being released in Japan.

Based on the comments thus far, it sounds like this will blow my head off and the my body will spontaneous combust. >_>

Do try and go in with lower expectations, as you might be disappointed if you already expect the epicness. Giant Robo is, for sure, not a show to be analyzed, so just sit back and be entertained.

[Fencedude]

Maybe, but I thought it added to its comic-book appeal. It was like basically jumping into the first part of a new storyline in an ongoing comic series. I have no doubt it was intended that way.

Of course it was intended that way, that doesn't make it NOT really annoying though.



So yeah, Giant Robo may not be the best robot fighting show ever (if it was, I'm not sure it would have reached the status it did), but it's undoubtedly the best team superhero show I've seen


Exactly. I didn't dislike Giant Robo, but calling it "Giant Robo" was kinda...misleading

[jojo_home]

Maybe, but I thought it added to its comic-book appeal. It was like basically jumping into the first part of a new storyline in an ongoing comic series. I have no doubt it was intended that way.

Of course it was intended that way, that doesn't make it NOT really annoying though.



Well, only if you think the first and third parts were truly already written out. I'm sure Imagawa had an idea of the whole story in his mind, but I think he was just bullshitting and trying to capture the feel of old 30s adventure serials. You know, "Stay tuned Next time for...THE TERROR OF THE 100 FOOT BOOB!" It's the same as Tarantino putting the Shawscope logo at the beginning of his Kill Bill movies to capture the feel of old 70s Shaw Bros flicks. You can take it or leave it. Personally, I think GR pretty much works by itself and while it's cute that fans might be enticed for more just because of a faux-pas tease, it's definitely something most fans can walk away from and still be satisfied with what they got.

[LelouchLamperouge]

I'm always in awe when I see the box set at Best Buy selling for $15.99 (Ginrei specials included!). If that's not a steal, I don't know what is.

Each episode sold for close to $100 when the series was first being released in Japan.

Based on the comments thus far, it sounds like this will blow my head off and the my body will spontaneous combust. >_>

Do try and go in with lower expectations, as you might be disappointed if you already expect the epicness. Giant Robo is, for sure, not a show to be analyzed, so just sit back and be entertained.



I decided to marathon the series, given I have short-term memory loss. :>

I went into this series with epic expectations. What I got was epic -- and more! So far, it's been a masterpiece and treat.

Episode 1 was a great way to start a series and episode 2 cemented how good this is. I do like it how its what, 45-50 minutes an episode? That is just excellent. I think my head is still on my body, but after watching episode 2 now, I have to say I'm still wowed. No exception from 3 and 4 now.

The music, like roastedpekingduck was saying, was very much movie theater quality. That soundtrack was just amazing and made my experience all the more memorable. The characters are pretty likable. I have to say, Daisaku and Ginrei are quite uhm, cute? :sd: I began to cry in episode 4, which means Giant Robo has entered very rare territory - it most assuredly has a position in my top 5 animes.

The animation is pretty good and very memorable. Character designs looks similar to Metropolis character designs and to an extent, the mecha too. Animation remains pretty solid.

It's a masterpiece 4 episodes in. I fear for my life in the final 3 episodes. It's very over the top - in a good way. :) It's ultra-addictive.

I don't regret the purchase whatsoever. Definately worth the $16 I spent. I originally planned to buy Air vol.1 with my money, but I went out of my way and bought this. I don't regret it one bit.

[roastedpekingduck]

Well, turns out you're liking this even more than I did. :) If the first few episodes did that to you, by the end of episode 6, your intestines may splatter all over the walls of your house due to internal combustion from epic overload.

For some reason, I do regret the fact that I marathoned the show a little bit, which is why I'm actually a bit glad today that I couldn't fit in time to watch 7 and wont be able to watch it for a while. Somehow, I think watching each episode in rapid succession diminished the feeling of epicness for me. The end of every episode had a comic book-like "STAY TUNED UNTIL NEXT WEEK. WHAT WILL HAPPEN THEN?!" feeling designed to make its viewers salivate about the possibilities about what might happen next. So much stuff happens that marathoning doesn't really give each development time to sink in after the ending of an episode. The appearance of Chujo at the end of episode 6 seems even more epic to me now than it did yesterday.

[LelouchLamperouge]

Well, turns out you're liking this even more than I did. :) If the first few episodes did that to you, by the end of episode 6, your intestines may splatter all over the walls of your house due to internal combustion from epic overload.

For some reason, I do regret the fact that I marathoned the show a little bit, which is why I'm actually a bit glad today that I couldn't fit in time to watch 7 and wont be able to watch it for a while. Somehow, I think watching each episode in rapid succession diminished the feeling of epicness for me. The end of every episode had a comic book-like "STAY TUNED UNTIL NEXT WEEK. WHAT WILL HAPPEN THEN?!" feeling designed to make its viewers salivate about the possibilities about what might happen next. So much stuff happens that marathoning doesn't really give each development time to sink in after the ending of an episode. The appearance of Chujo at the end of episode 6 seems even more epic to me now than it did yesterday.

I think I enjoyed it a bit too much, since my wife told me to settledown, cause I was pretty loud. :sd:

I had to marathon it or else I would end up forgetting what happened or something would bug me, given I have really bad short term memory loss. I watched 1-4, took a 2 hour break, then 5-7. It worked out for me.

I will admit, Giant Robo has easily become my #1 anime, knocking Chevalier down a peg after hold #1 since February 2007. That's a big feat to accomplish in this day and time. I do feel the urge to rewatch Now and Then, Here and There - which is quite random, but I feel like watching it again. I can't rate Giant Robo on a scale. That wouldn't do it justice, because it is just that good.

I just really, really enjoyed it and really, I wouldn't have given it the time of day -- but I did and now I don't regret it! Best way to spend a day! :)

[roastedpekingduck]

I got up extra early this morning before school to finish the last episode of Giant Robo, and even in my delirious state, the last episode completely rocked my socks off. Whether it was Alberto's sacrifice, Tetsugyu's return, Murasame's final death or watching the Blood Wind clan get their ass kicked, I was able to ridiculously enjoy most of the episode. The only moments I didn't like were when Daisaku began to falter in resolve, but the payoff was excellent when he decided that he should the questions his father asked him naturally come to him

After the final scene, I felt like I had finished watching a 52 episode series, but I still wanted to watch so much more. It was kind of sadistic that the series ended with a "well, the earth is no longer still, but the fight between the IPO and Big Fire became EVEN MORE INTENSE!" At that point, Daisaku was now a full fledged Celestial Nine member though, so the series certainly did resolve everything. As Fencedude said, I did slightly feel that I had watched the second part of a three part trilogy. I really wanted to know a lot more about the history in those rivalries. Watching the other cool robots in the opening sequence made me want to see how GR kicked their asses as well.


Anyhow, still not a top 10 series for me, but Giant Robo will likely fall between 15 and 18 in my ranking of shows. I don't regret watching it for sure.

[Seahawk]

I got up extra early this morning before school to finish the last episode of Giant Robo, and even in my delirious state, the last episode completely rocked my socks off. Whether it was Alberto's sacrifice, Tetsugyu's return, Murasame's final death or watching the Blood Wind clan get their ass kicked, I was able to ridiculously enjoy most of the episode. The only moments I didn't like were when Daisaku began to falter in resolve, but the payoff was excellent when he decided that he should the questions his father asked him naturally come to him

Ah, Giant Robo. Brilliant, brilliant stuff. I've quoted your post, roastpekingduck, because I agree with all you've said, but one thing about episode seven I particularly liked was the "switcheroo" they pulled at the end with the Vogler Sphere and the Shizuma Drives.

But I agree, watching the whole thing did feel like we've missed something beforehand and afterward. Particularly afterward - I'd have loved to see Big Fire in action.

[evilgordo]

I'm sorry that I missed this thread, but it is always refreshing to see GR get the appreciation it deserves.

Here's hoping that the new manga will inspire Imagawa and studios to revisit the OVA storyline again...I mean it can't be that unappealling, it's been released on DVD twice, had a video game on PS2 and there are still toys being made (Revoltechs are awesome!) and its now 15 years old...

btw, to the recently GR intitated, welcome to the club :D