Anime that you wish manga purists would stop whining about

[pianocello]

Has there ever been an anime which you enjoyed but the manga purists kept whining about how this and that scene does not follow the manga blah blah blah and so on? Which anime is it that you wish manga purists would stop whining about?

[Takato]

I wish manga purists would stop whining about the anime version of Sailor Moon SuperS. It's like every time you encounter Sailor Moon purists they always complain about how the SuperS season is the worst season of the series. It's not that they don't like it that annoys me but that they act like the SuperS anime adaptation is so much more inaccurate to the manga than the other seasons are when all the seasons of Sailor Moon are just as drastically different from the manga as SuperS is. Then they start complaining about how SuperS' plot is more "slower-paced" than the other seasons yet every episode of Sailor Moon has the exact same plot as the last. The only real difference is in the situation and the characters involved.

And I get annoyed when they claim that the Sailor Moon's anime's character development is inferior to the manga but never present any proof that it is other than they like their personalities better yet that doesn't mean they somehow magically get more character development. If anything the manga is even more Usagi-centric than the anime. At least the Inners got their own starring filler-in episodes in the anime. They don't even get that much in the manga.

[Lego]

FMA

[Raye]

Don't know if this really counts since I haven't seen anyone whining about it, but I really don't like when people compare the One Piece manga and anime. IMO, the anime is great as is. The anime shows us fights in greater detail than what the manga is limited to. Heck, I don't even mind a filler or two. It's not like the anime can always stay right behind the manga anyway. I believe fans should already be aware of what would happen if it ever did.

[Advent_Nebula]

Chrono Crusade

[TalonG4]

All of them.

Seriously, because I used to be like that, especially with Negima. I love the manga but I also grew to love the anime(1st one).
Not to mention, if it follows the manga identically, it's just plain boring. High School Girls is a perfect example of this. I read the manga first and it was hilarious, then I watch the anime and it's just the same jokes...boring.

[KShinjo]

Adaptation from manga to anime (or for that matter - game to anime, novel to anime, and even anime to manga ) is aways an issue for those who have experienced the original version first.

Personally, I don't always subscribe to the "it must follow the original work" ideal. A good anime director/staff can make all the difference - whether it follows the original work or not. The staff at Kyoto Animation seems to know what they're doing. They've done game to anime (Air), novel to anime (Haruhi), and manga to anime (Lucky Star). All of them (by most accounts including those who have experienced the original works) - superb works.

[mike.motaku]

All of them.

Seriously, because I used to be like that, especially with Negima. I love the manga but I also grew to love the anime(1st one).
Not to mention, if it follows the manga identically, it's just plain boring. High School Girls is a perfect example of this. I read the manga first and it was hilarious, then I watch the anime and it's just the same jokes...boring.


Testify! With my eyesight and the tiny font in some manga I just can't be bothered to read most of them. Sometimes I'll use them as art references to see if I like the character designs and I'll read synopses to see whether the overall story is appealing, but mostly I'm an anime fan. I write the whingeing off as a way manga fans use to make themselves feel superior to the merely mortal and therefore sadly lacking anime watcher.

[Njr Scrawl]

Rurouni Kenshin. Just because the Meijin arc is not Jinchuu, there are a lot of moans.

Live with it! Jinchuu is not that brilliant. Meijin is not that bad, for stories. O.O :offline: :)

[Fencedude]

All of them.

Seriously, because I used to be like that, especially with Negima. I love the manga but I also grew to love the anime(1st one).
Not to mention, if it follows the manga identically, it's just plain boring.


Negima anime isn't bad because it diverges from the manga, its bad because...ITS BAD.

[TnAdct1]

All of them.

Seriously, because I used to be like that, especially with Negima. I love the manga but I also grew to love the anime(1st one).
Not to mention, if it follows the manga identically, it's just plain boring.


Negima anime isn't bad because it diverges from the manga, its bad because...ITS BAD.

Actually, it depends which version. Here's the reasons why each Negima series ended up being disappointing:

Xebec: Shortened the Kyoto arc to two episodes; all but ignored Negi's Pactios with Nodoka, Setsuna, and Konoka; series focused more on the "harem" side of things.

SHAFT: Made the huge mistake of having all of Negi's students discover his secret halfway through the show. As a result, the interesting "Star Crystal" is pushed to the background in favor of ensuring that all 31 students would appear in each episode of Negima (don't get me started on the "Suka" episode).

[Fencedude]

Pretty much.

And lets not even get started on the live action...

[Foxfossil]

Naruto and Bleach, Most complain about the fillers episodes. I like the series with the filler episodes in them but that's probaly just me. Yes I may agree the manga is better than some of the series but the shows are made adaptions of the manga in most cases you get better fight scenes in the anime most of the time. Books are usually better but I watch a series for the shorter less detail version and look at it as a adaption of someone elses work.

[Dicrel Seijin]

FMA

Really?

With the anime based off of the first 7 vols. and the U.S. release of the manga at 14, I consider them completely different animals at this point.

I may not have liked the anime as much as I'm liking the manga, but I can see where there were improvements (completely subjective, of course).

For instance, the ep. where Ed challenges Mustang to a duel (just in case :) ). You get some character development and history in Mustang. In the manga, its a throwaway 4-koma. (Ed gets blown up by Mustang's fireball within the first minute. Duel over. Mustang wins.)

But I can see where some people are coming from. I sometimes cannot stand one incarnation while loving another (Tenchi is an example. I love the original anime series, but cannot stand any of the other anime or manga series.)

[something]

All of them.
Stole my answer. At any rate, I agree completely. But this goes for novels and games too, as much as manga.

[Suwako Moriya]

For me it really depends on what their specific complaints are. On one hand I find it inane to feel an adaptation must be a complete clone of the source material. Especially since that can backfire. Plus sometimes changes can be for the better. For example giving a character development that was ignored in the original.

On the other hand while changes here and there are fine. Some respect for the source material would be nice. After all a line has to be drawn somewhere. Other wise there would be no real point in adapting the source material at all.

Also I think part of it comes from people wanting to see certain scenes in action so when the anime staff is intent on making sure those scenes never happen it can anger people. A person may become a fan of a certain character and if the anime gives the impression the people behind the anime hate the character in question..

My point is I think with any adaptation based on any source material you can find people who are being excessive in terms of their griping about the adaptation. However at the same time I wouldn't want to treat any complaint made as automatically worthless.

[Lego]

The same thing happened with Planetes where they only had some of the manga to work with and they made an amazing show. My larger point about FMA is that just because it didn't watch like an animated manga doesn't mean it was a bad show.

I look at most manga/light novel to anime adaptations the same way I look at novels being made into regular movies. A capable director can do a good job and still stay relevant to the source material.

[Shiroi Hane]

Negima anime isn't bad because it diverges from the manga, its bad because...ITS BAD.
I'd disagree actually (referring to the original series since I gave up on the seccond after one DVD). The manga was, IMO, adapted badly (most notably the butchering of the Kyoto arc etc as mentioned by TnAdct1) but the anime-original episodes, most notable the Sayo episode, were (also IMO) generally pretty good. If I had never read the manga I may have enjoyed the whole series a lot more, but there's no way of telling now.

Back to the main topic.. Gonzo anime adapted from manga get a lot of complaints and it can get annoying. Was Hellsing different from the manga, which wasn't (and still isn't) finished? Yes. Did I enjoy it anyway? Yes. If I'd read the manga first would I feel the same way? I don't know. Did Chrno Crusade differ from the manga on some really key points? Yes. Were both enjoyable in their own right? You bet. Would I have enjoyed the anime less if I'd read the manga first? Again, I don't know.

[Mr. Nail Bat]

Fruits Basket. The changes are minor until the final two episodes... more like the final episode and a half. And the changes that occur in those final 40 or so minutes of the series are totally defensible from a dramatic point of view: The scene in the graveyard in the rain is original to the anime, but it's still a wonderful scene. And having Yuki chase after Kyo brings a stronger sense of closure, which they needed, since, after all, it's the final episode.

I think the Furuba is a wonderful adaptation of the manga, and I could not bear to part with either incarnation.

[HitokiriShadow]

Naruto and Bleach, Most complain about the fillers episodes. I like the series with the filler episodes in them but that's probaly just me. Yes I may agree the manga is better than some of the series but the shows are made adaptions of the manga in most cases you get better fight scenes in the anime most of the time. Books are usually better but I watch a series for the shorter less detail version and look at it as a adaption of someone elses work.

The thing about filler is that its usually mediocre at best and you know damn well they aren't going to do anything that matters. And in some cases, its just downright awful. I don't care whether you've read the manga already or not, 90 episodes is just way too many utterly inconsequential episodes.

I don't mind filler so much (it's easy enough to just not watch it) but I do mind the dumb crap they sometimes when trying to drag out the "main story". This has been a bit of an issue with Bleach post-Bounto arc. Also, it should be noted that I see the events in the anime first, so I can only compare it to the manga after I've already seen the anime, so that's not coloring my impressions of the anime.

I'm not against changing the anime, particularly when the anime is going a different direction than the source material (FMA is a prime example). My problem is that in most cases, the changes are for the worse. It's not always total crap but it is often mediocre in comparison to the source material and knowing how much better the original was just makes it worse.

[TnAdct1]

Negima anime isn't bad because it diverges from the manga, its bad because...ITS BAD.
I'd disagree actually (referring to the original series since I gave up on the seccond after one DVD). The manga was, IMO, adapted badly (most notably the butchering of the Kyoto arc etc as mentioned by TnAdct1) but the anime-original episodes, most notable the Sayo episode, were (also IMO) generally pretty good. If I had never read the manga I may have enjoyed the whole series a lot more, but there's no way of telling now.
As for the second series, once the real story (one about the search of the Star Crystal) actually began in episode 4, Negima!? began to show some promise when it comes to its original story (especially with SHAFT correcting Xebec's big mistake of ignoring Negi's Pactios with Nodoka, Setsuna, and Konoka). Heck, I even thought the idea of having Negi Pactio with the twins was a nice twist to the story. Of course, everything had to go downhill at the show's halfway point. :(

[Chloe]

Hellsing, specifically the first OVA. I don't care if it is grossly different then the manga; it's wicked fun. I can see WHY the manga-philes are upset, since after reading vol. 8 this week, I know I wish they had done the manga characters as well. But I still had a great time with the OVA.

[HitokiriShadow]

I assume you mean the first series, which was a TV series not an OVA series. "The first OVA" would be the first volume of Ultimate.

[jecca-neko]

I wish manga purists would stop whining about the anime version of Sailor Moon SuperS. It's like every time you encounter Sailor Moon purists they always complain about how the SuperS season is the worst season of the series.

SuperS is my least favorite, but it's not because I'm a manga purist, by any means. To me, SuperS had several pluses...

1) Improved character designs
2) Really good music
3) Fun villains
4) Good development for the inner senshi

I just didn't care for the whole Chibi-Usa/Pegasus thing, and I also didn't like how it suddenly felt like Sailor Moon could no longer defeat enemies without Chibi Moon there. I'm not a Chibi-Usa hater, so that's not the problem.

I do agree with you in the manga purists complaining about development in the show. The characters don't develop in the manga very well at all. Actually, there isn't as many reasons given as to why Usagi changed from this klutzy, whiny schoolgirl into a superhero in the manga. It's not quite as believable. The anime has Usagi developing slowly over time. Granted, she develops a little TOO slowly at times, but in the manga, it almost feels like one minute she whines, the next minute she's strong and can do anything.

[Shsway]

I like the third season of the Rurouni Kenshin and was pretty unimpressed by the much-hyped "Jinchu" manga arc, so yeah. Honestly, it's just a respray of what a lot of the Kyoto arc dealt with, so I didn't see it as something particularly worth animating.

Count me as another who rather enjoyed the Negima! anime for what it was.

Edit: Aw, Njr, stop doing that. :)