Any Bleach manga edits?

[Rurouni]

Hey guys,
Since Viz has released a lot of the bleach manga by now (they’re beyond the Soul Society arc now right?) I’m thinking of buying it. But I know Viz has a bad reputation when it comes down to editing and making translation-errors. So can anyone tell me if the Bleach manga is censored/toned down in any way and if the translation is a good one?

Thanks,
Rurouni

[Immortal1982]

The only change I've seen is the occasional color page/section is not colored in the english version.

[Kira Cyana]

The one confirmed edit comes in volume 14, where they added a bit more steam around Yoruichi's nekkid self, despite all the important bits already being covered.

Other than that, nothing has been changed artwork-wise. I'm not sure if the Japanese tankoubon had the color pages or not.

Translation-wise, they call them "Soul Reapers" instead of "Shinigami."


Kira C.

[masterpez]

I'm not sure if the Japanese tankoubon had the color pages or not.


The only color pages in the Japanese edition are in volume 19, chapter 162: The Black Moon Rising. The entire chapter was featured in color because of the event that happens. The same chapter in Viz's edition was printed in black & white.

[Mr. Nail Bat]

Bleach volume 14 thread (http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/12389/post/262756/hl/bleach/fromsearch/1/)

Bleach volume 15 thread (http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/15413/post/325758/hl/bleach/fromsearch/1/)

[Libertus]

The only color pages in the Japanese edition are in volume 19, chapter 162: The Black Moon Rising. The entire chapter was featured in color because of the event that happens. The same chapter in Viz's edition was printed in black & white.

Just a quick note that this chapter was printed in colour in the May 2007 issue USA Shonen Jump magazine.

robert

[Hatter]

Sorry to bump this old thread, but I was wondering as well...

Is Viz still toning down the language in Bleach? I own the first four volumes, and I don't think I've seen them even print "damn" or "hell"... ironic considering the Bleach anime dub is full of "bastard" and such.

[HitokiriShadow]

Yes, they are keeping the language as kid friendly as possible. Darn instead of damn and the like. I think the first printings of the early volumes might have had worse language initially but reprints may have been toned down along with the later volumes. I thought my copies of the early volumes had some rougher language and it wasn't until around when it started on AS that they stared toning it down. I'm not sure on that though and I'm too lazy to check myself at the moment (maybe later).

[HellKorn]

Viz actually has no foul language in any of their Shonen Jump line manga. Well, not entirely true; there is some in earlier published volumes, but at some point they substituted future installments with pseudo-swears that really lose a lot of impact.

I'm not asking for curse words appearing every other speech bubble... but something like "Darn you, Arlong!" really does not carry the scene well.

So, in short, Viz edits nudity in their shounen titles, and for their SJ line the language, yet somehow violence always escapes through the cracks.

Just another part of the incredible hypocritical United States, I guess...

[HitokiriShadow]

So, in short, Viz edits nudity in their shounen titles, and for their SJ line the language, yet somehow violence always escapes through the cracks.


Not always. DBZ had some guns edited out. Or at least they were for the magazine, but I'm pretty sure they did for the graphic novels as well. But I think that's the only case.

[HellKorn]

DBZ is an odd case in that Viz lowered the age rating down to "A," thereby allowing it to be stocked in places that usually don't hold manga.

... Though I still find it ridiculous that, say, SJ manga don't have cursing, yet the most recent volume of Fullmetal Alchemist has a few uses of "God damn" and "bastard."

[joelgundam01]

Though I still find it ridiculous that, say, SJ manga don't have cursing, yet the most recent volume of Fullmetal Alchemist has a few uses of "God damn" and "bastard."

Actually, the "Shonen Jump Advanced" titles such as Claymore, Pretty Face and Buso Renkin do.

[Hatter]

Well, that's depressing.
This confuses me because the Bleach anime, also released by Viz, retains the strong language of the original version. There is no other difference between the anime and manga.

Surely Viz must be aware of their hypocrisy? I'd really like to know why they think a book being sold in a large chain like Barnes & Noble is any different from a DVD being sold in Wal-Mart. "Well, the manga is near the children's book section", they might say, "don't want to offend impressionable young minds" - well then, why is it that whenever I visit a Wal-Mart's DVD section, their Bleach DVDs are always stacked on the Disney shelf? Right next to Dora the Exporer and Bambi!

Viz has NO RIGHT to claim that the watered-down manga is intended for younger readers when Bleach's violent content is kept 100% intact. I would really like to have a Viz executive tell me, with a straight face, that children will be more offended by the worlds "Damn" and "Hell" than the image of a man or woman impaled though the mid-section with a sword, with blood pouring from the wound. This is the very highest level of hypocrisy. Viz CANNOT pretend that watering down the language changes the target audience. The art and story are still exactly the same. They are doing nothing but insulting Bleach fans with this action.

What kind of world are they living in where content inconsistency across different media is acceptable? No excuse is acceptable. We're far, far past the point where they can say, "Just be glad it's getting a North American release at all!" If you're not going to do it right, don't do it at all. I love the Bleach anime, and would certainly read buy the Bleach manga if it was unedited. But I won't accept a watered-down version.

Sorry to go off on a rant, but I had to let it out.

[HellKorn]

Already knew that.

Should have clarified the differences between the Shonen Jump line and Shonen Jump Advanced.

[detective392]

Right now i'm reading bleach in SJ does anyone know if they edit any of the blood in the SJ version or if they edit anything becuase I heard later on it get's pretty bloody and stuff.

[HitokiriShadow]

I don't think Viz has ever edited for violence aside from the DBZ gun edits. It's only those horribly nipples that corrupt poor young children's minds that are the problem. And testicles. But no, they haven't edited for blood and they won't.

[braves]

Volume 20 had cursing, Renji called Aizen a bastard. Other than that they take out most curse words except for the occasionaly "dammit", which is very rare.

At least they didn't censor "Hell Butterfly". :grin:

[Rolancehack]

It's pretty obvious that Viz has been editing Rangiku's uniform in the SJ chapters of Bleach. Yet they have been taking them out and leaving it unedited in the Volumes.

However in volume 22 it looks like they accidentally left an edit in when the soul reapers are in Ichigo's room.

[Vegard Aune]

Volume 20 had cursing, Renji called Aizen a bastard. Other than that they take out most curse words except for the occasionaly "dammit", which is very rare.

At least they didn't censor "Hell Butterfly". :grin:
Just for clarification, did you read the manga in japanese? Because fan-translations often add a bunch of curses for no particular reason. One of the best examples of this would be a DBZ-fansub, where the actual line was "You coward! Come out, where are you hiding?!", but the fansubbers wrote "Come out, you candy-ass faggot!"