_Rosario + Vampire Discussion Thread

[Suwako Moriya]

Just finished watching the first episode of this and saw no discussion thread so here goes nothing. Now to start the episode 01 subthread. By the way the "_" is in front of the title on purpose. It prevents the "R" from disappearing when people reply. Hence I and others should use it when creating a new subthread for an episode.

[Ty]

The promo art for this show all looks fantastic, but it's produced by Gonzo and the first episode played out about how Gonzo productions always do so I'm not holding my breath.

[Suwako Moriya]

All right essentially this episode deals with Tsukune getting into a school of monsters. Which is going to be fun for him. Still at least he gets to befriend a really sweet vampire named Moka. Although she's a bit different in her "true" form.

The first episode wasn't particular bad or anything, but aside from Moka being really uh sweet, it lacks that certain hook that makes it a definite watch. I'm not sure I want to drop it yet, but I'm definitely not sold. I have to think about things for a bit in terms of whether or not I want to continue.

That being said, I think given what happened in the first episode. They should change the title to Rosario + Panties + Vampire. If you watch the episode you'll see exactly what I mean. She may as well not be wearing a skirt at all...

[Suwako Moriya]

The promo art for this show all looks fantastic, but it's produced by Gonzo and the first episode played out about how Gonzo productions always do so I'm not holding my breath.

Heh right now I need to decide if "Moka" justifies giving the show a bit more to develop. I may want to read up on the next few episodes. In any case this makes the second "new" series today I started. The first being H2O. For the record the third will be "True Tears" given I'm watching that right now. Yeah I know, but well it's just the way I am.

[ndm]

All right essentially this episode deals with Tsukune getting into a school of monsters. Which is going to be fun for him. Still at least he gets to befriend a really sweet vampire named Mako. Although she's a bit different in her "true" form.

That being said, I think given what happened in the first episode. They should change the title to Rosario + Panties + Vampire. If you watch the episode you'll see exactly what I mean. She may as well not be wearing a skirt at all...

Actually, it's Moka, but close. :)

I was really put off by the endless panty shots. They shouldn't be there anyway, since one of the things I like about the manga is that it never uses cheap panty shots, even when Moka has one leg up in the air and is kicking the hell out of the bad guys. Those were a strictly anime-only addition and were waaay overdone. :mad:

Ah well, Moka's hair looked nice.

[Suwako Moriya]

Actually, it's Moka, but close. :)

Ah okay then and hence forth I edited a few posts.

Those were a strictly anime-only addition and were waaay overdone. :mad:

Ah I see so the panty shots can be blamed strictly on the anime then... Hmm the more I think about it the less motivated I feel about continuing this series.

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Episode 1:

- Panties. Girl on a bike. More panties.
- Tsukune is repeating a grade as his friends graduate, though they lament their upcoming high school being an all boys school. But Tsukune's dad picks up a new student enrollment package that someone dropped on the street, and they send Aono to the school it describes. >_> I don't think it works like that.
- He's on the bus to Youkai Academy when his friend Kyou calls. She warns him about the school but the phone cuts off when the bus enters a tunnel. On the other side of the tunnel it's a barren landscape and an ocean of blood o_O
- As he's trying to find the school, he meets Moka. He nosebleeds and all that, and at the sight of the blood she reveals she's a vampire and... kisses him on the neck?
- Then lots more panties and she says she's a first year too, and asks to be his friend, etc etc etc.
- In class the teacher outlines two rules that should be pretty convenient for Tsukune: 1) Always stay in your human form and 2) don't tell anyone else your true form. Oh, and 3) all humans will be killed on the spot. Oops.
- Panties. Moka introduces herself to the class and pounces on Tsukune, making all the guys jealous. Then more panties. Having a whole school of monsters jealous of you doesn't sound fun. Especially since the class delinquent is already beating him up. Panties.
- Moka tells him that her rosary is a seal that keeps her vampire form locked away. Also, panties. She tells him he's her first love, then her fangs come out again, and he freaks and runs. He decides to leave the school.
- She catches him as he's leaving and says he can't go to a school for humans. She hates humans, and went to such a school in junior high (panties), and felt lonely because nobody believed in monsters.
- Draaaaaaaaaaaaaama. A bit too early for all this and I didn't think he'd reveal he was a human so soon, but there you have it. She's so happy he accepts her for being a vampire, but he asks her if she can accept him... as a human. She hesitates, and he runs.
- She chases him (surprise! panties!), but the delinquent with the creepy tongue attacks her (he's an orc). He looks completely stupid and she's covered in saliva bukkake. Tsukune tries to save her, gets beat up, accidentally pulls off Moka's rosary, she transforms into her true vampire state and kicks the orc's ass, etc.

In vampire form she remembers him as well, and she accepts him as a human, he accepts her as a vampire, and he decides to stay at Youkai Academy. Moka's transformation was meh, the bat-covered part had potential but wasted it by using CG.

So, a pretty ridiculous first episode that tried way too hard on the drama (and pantyshots), but Moka is hot so I'll keep watching for now.

[philnicau]

If they are overdoing Moka's panty shots then i hate to Imagine what going to happen when Kuruna (the Succubus) is shown.

But i agree that not showing Moka's panties is a theme of the manga, in fact in one of the volumes omake, Yukari (the witch) holds up Moka's skirt to prove she does wear them.

I think at this stage i'll stick with the Manga.

[something]

But i agree that not showing Moka's panties is a theme of the manga, in fact in one of the volumes Omake Yukari (the witch) holds up Moka's skirt to prove she does wear them.
Very strange, then. If the manga was full of pantyshots I can see why they'd do it in the anime too, but to move completely in the opposite direction? Bizarre.

Someone tell Gonzo that mixing pantyshots and (attempts at) emotional drama doesn't work.

[Nork22]

Heh right now I need to decide if "Moka" justifies giving the show a bit more to develop. I may want to read up on the next few episodes. In any case this makes the second "new" series today I started. The first being H2O. For the record the third will be "True Tears" given I'm watching that right now. Yeah I know, but well it's just the way I am.
Heh... just watched all 3 shows today, and so far I'm sticking with Rosario. 2nd would be true tears and need a bit more convincing to watch H2O. Well I need to be assure that with H2O that it won't pull any surprises like Myself;Yourself.

Anyway, yeah first episode is rather lackluster, but hey, it has Moka and we get to hear a Kikuko Inoue neko-sensei, so at least that's fun. :D

[Suwako Moriya]

Heh... just watched all 3 shows today, and so far I'm sticking with Rosario. 2nd would be true tears and need a bit more convincing to watch H2O.

H20 ~footprints in the sand~ wasn't as good as True Tears to me, but I liked it better than Rosario + Vampire. Which should tell you how all three are ranked. As for worrying about H20 ~footprints in the sand~ being like Myself, Yourself. Well I liked that show so uh there. Besides the main thing to hope for is better time management.

[something]

As for worrying about H20 ~footprints in the sand~ being like Myself, Yourself. Well I liked that show so uh there.
I think he meant that in a good way, since M;Y surprised people in a positive manner, incredibly rushed ending notwithstanding.

[Ashyukun]

So, a pretty ridiculous first episode that tried way too hard on the drama (and pantyshots), but Moka is hot so I'll keep watching for now.
That pretty much summed up my thoughts on it. My biggest concern with this is the fact it appears to just be 13 episodes... from what I've heard about the manga it kind of surprises me that it's so short- especially since only the two main characters were introduced in the first episode. Frankly, I'm getting a bit tired of all these 1-cours where it's obvious the show needed a lot more time to really develop.. though I suppose I shouldn't be bitching until after we see how things work out. But, contrasting this to several of the 1-cours from last season that worked out fairly well, those all seemed to do a much better job of getting all the main cast on the scene fairly quickly.

Still, the animation is pretty and, as previously mentioned, Moka is hot (and the other girls look cute & fun), so I'll keep watching it for now.

Oh- and panties.

[Suwako Moriya]

I think he meant that in a good way, since M;Y surprised people in a positive manner, incredibly rushed ending notwithstanding.

Okay perhaps I misunderstood then. Actually if one forum I've visited is any indication a lot of people were well let's just say not happy with the surprise aspect. Either they hate the direction or they gripe about how it came out of nowhere. Although part of me thinks if the show had given the amount of hints they wanted, they would have instead griped about it blatant. Ah plot twists, they're either accused of coming out of nowhere or accused of being blatant...

[Nephenee13]

Pretty meh all around, but true form Moka's enough for one more episode at least.

[HitokiriShadow]

The premise has potential but the execution is severely lacking. I'm not a fan of pantyshots, and the endless random and awkward stream of them that preteen Japanese boys seem to like so much really annoys me. There is a lot that annoys me and screams wasted potential and little that makes me want to come back for more. I'll watch another episode or two and see if it gets better, but I'm probably going to drop this one soon.

[Nephenee13]

Coming off a Touka Gettan binge doesn't help it much either.

That was a show which knew how to do fanservice, and pantyshots were not in its repertoire. The only shot in this I really found sexy was when Moka pulled open her shirt a bit to give a better view of the Rosary.

[Nork22]

Okay perhaps I misunderstood then. Actually if one forum I've visited is any indication a lot of people were well let's just say not happy with the surprise aspect. Either they hate the direction or they gripe about how it came out of nowhere. Although part of me thinks if the show had given the amount of hints they wanted, they would have instead griped about it blatant. Ah plot twists, they're either accused of coming out of nowhere or accused of being blatant...
No you didn't misunderstood and no I'm not griping about Myself;Yourself's surprises. It was hinted afterall and I actually appreciated it. It's just the surprises itself was like "GAH! These kids lives are so messed up!!". Which is what H2O is looking like as well. But that's another discussion on another thread. :sweatdrop:

[Spirit Of The Stage]

Early impressions - not too fond of the Najica/Aika style panty shot fanservice (O.K, it's not that excessive but it's the closest comparison I could find) but Moka is a definite interesting character so will stick by it (and hearing Nana change from a Hinata voice to a dark Fate voice when she switches from normal to true vampire is pretty damn good...)

[Westlo]

After the epic failure by Gonzo that was Dragonaut I bravely watch a new show by them. Mainly due to Nana Mizuki being the main female character in addition to doing the OP/ED.

I very nearly quit before I started when I watched a trailer from C73 and Tsukune's voice made me want to put a gun to my head. Thankfully it's not as bad as that trailer made it out to be...

I liked Moka, but I liked Silver Haired Moka even better :evil: The pantie shots didn't really annoy me that much, I'll take an over abundance of them over the ridiculous breasts from Dragonaut anyday.

CG wasn't used to much and aside from the horrible looking running down the stair sequence (reused scene from Dragonaut?) it looked alright.

Looks like it's going to be monster of the week in more ways than one but I liked what I saw enough to stick with it for awhile. According to manga readers it gets a lot better once the monster of the week format is over.

I like the OP but whoever selected and made the BGM for the meeting Moka scene should get shot. Anyway not expecting anything great from this... also is 13 episodes confirmed? Maybe 1 cour now and another at summer?

[Suwako Moriya]

Coming off a Touka Gettan binge doesn't help it much either.

I think the secret to that series "sexual" success is really in how they show things rather than what they show. Kind of funny how a single fully clothed scene ends being hotter than a full episode of "pantyshots" just by nature of how it's handled. 11 episodes finished and 15 more remaining as of this post for me.

[Shiroi Hane]

There was a time when I'd watch anything Gonzo put out, but that was a while ago now. There wasn't much about this that was impressing at all.

[ndm]

I thought episode 2 was much better than episode 1, especially since it managed to go 10 minutes without a single panty shot. It was also very faithful to the manga - out of curiosity I pulled out the manga to compare and most of the koma and dialogue bubbles play out like a storyboard for the anime. If they keep it more like this episode and less like the first then I'll be happy. (Though imo they could also lose the bat transformation sequence they invented.)

It looks like for the next episode they're skipping the next manga story which introduces the werewolf guy and going straight to Yukari the witch's introduction.

[Westlo]

- I loved the intro but coming from a Nana Mizuki fanboy that might not mean much. I had to lol @ the part in the intro where they censor the panty shots.

- Looks like they're replacing panty shots this week with some bouncing breasts instead, who I am to complain about that?

- Unsealed Moka makes short work with this weeks "monster", at least they made fun of it straight after the fight ended with the "This weeks fight lasted 76 seconds!" comment from that bat.

- New Harem member obtained!

- The ED is even better than the OP, I :beat: Nana Mizuki.

- Next weeks monster looks like being a witch, another addition to the harem?

Animation quality seemed better in this episode, I'll be sticking with this show for now since I'm enjoying it enough but if the eps after the introductions is done doesn't pick up I'll either drop this or put this on hiatus.

[Ty]

There was a time when I'd watch anything Gonzo put out, but that was a while ago now. There wasn't much about this that was impressing at all.
Much to my own surprise my opinion of it was rather positive. Maybe I just caught it in a very good mood. Plus, the thought occurred to me that it's actually been a long time since I watched a show with this specific style of fanservice. It's been on the shelf so long it didn't bug me seeing it again. I think the test will be whether the show suffers the traditional massive drop in quality all Gonzo productions do in episode 2, which I'll be watching tonight.

[something]

Sine I'm behind on stuff I'm just going down my list one by one watching what I need to, in no order other than how they're listed. When I saw this one I hesitated, but I really should give it at least ep 2.

Episode 2:

- Wait, censoring the pantyshots in the OP? Who are they kidding?
- ...Bouncy boobs. Succubus!
- Convenient for Tsukune that Moka can suck his blood without actually... sucking his blood.
- Ok, they're already doing one thing right. Breasts > pantyshots. Kurumu <3
- Here's one big test for the show. Will Moka brood over this forever, or will she recognize Kurumu is a succubus and respond appropriately?
- Haha, Kurumu is fucking awesome. Her grand plan is to turn every boy in the school into her love slave.
- SYMMETRICAL DOCKING!
- Oh man, poor Moka. Kurumu knows exactly what to say to crush her.
- Second part. Also, this episode is WAY better than ep 1.
- Her rosary talks to her...
- I am somewhat disappointed Kurumu hasn't removed any clothes.
- DRAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAA again. They're trying too hard. And bad music. Don't try to give me a sympathetic excuse for why Kurumu is doing it. Being a kinky succubus is good enough.
- "This week's fight lasted for 76 seconds." :sd:
- Ahahaa, Tsukune is a dork. The voice doesn't help either.

Alright, 1st half was better than 2nd half but it was still a lot better than ep 1. I'll continue. MMmm, Kurumu.

[Nork22]

Mmm... Succubus + Vampire yummy combination.

And if you are into lolis, one appears in Ep. 3. :D

[Ty]

No surprise she going to be a witch. That was obvious from the outfit right in the OP, but what I'm curious to know is if she's human other than being a witch or if they put a different spin on it. If it's the former then she'd be a strong rival for Tsukune's affections since she'd having something closely in common with him.

[Westlo]

I typed up a summary and the page failed to load. I'm pissed :( But I guess Something will handle that anyway.

I enjoyed ep 3 and this is shaping up to be a good guilty pleasure show. Yukari was quite a fun addition to the cast and needs to molest Moka's breasts more often. She's probably scheming on how to get into a threesome with Moka and Tsukune now. Looks like in addition to the bat the characters will occasionally brake the 4th wall too.

And damn that bat for censoring the 3 girls panties :\

[Ashyukun]

I still think there's too many panty shots- though I realize there are plenty who think that's just not possible. It's just jarring compared with the manga, where there's plenty of opportunities for them but they're doled out much more sparingly (even with a main character whose signature attack is a near-vertical high kick in a skirt that could pass for a wide belt).

Still- the show is fun, and pantsu aside is going along decently well with the manga otherwise. I'm looking forward to next week's episode, as the witch is one of my favorites among the cast (after Nekome-sensei, of course...).

Erk.... that was a horribly bad though... introducing RosaVam's Nekome-sensei to Rental Magica's Nekoyashi...

[something]

Episode 3:

- Midterms scores are up, and Moka is ranked highly. She asks Tsukune if they can study together next time, and of course the guys get jealous. Except this time, someone else watches from the shadows.
- It's Sendou Yukari, the #1 ranked student and an "admirer" of Moka. She seems to be disliked by some of her classmates, but Moka steps in and protects her. Yukari's voice is familiar... ::checks:: Koyama Kimiko, who was Sora in Doujin Work (that's who I was thinking of) and Marianne in Shakugan no Shana.
- And she more than admires Moka... she jumps across the table, molests her breasts, and asks her out. Awesome. She hangs onto Moka by her breasts, and lets herself be dragged around school like that. Uhh....
- She also pegs Tsukune perfectly. "You're like those half-assed males in manga." XD
- And so her torture of Tsukune begins, as she declares her intent to destroy anyone who gets near Moka. After a breast-fondling panty-pulling run-in with Kurumu (courtesy of Yukari's magic), Tsukune has had enough and tells Moka Yukari needs to be disciplined somehow, but Moka protects her, saying she's just a kid.
- Yukari drops a teapot on his head and runs off giggling, but her mischevious playful nature is just how she deals with being an outcast. Outside the school building she runs into the classmates who have it in for her, and they gang up on her.
- Second part.
- Could they possibly find a way to show Yukari's panties more? Moka runs after her while the thugs drag her into the woods and get ready to beat her up or whatever. Kurumu tells Tsukune about how witches are seen as half-breeds, a mix of human and monster, and so are hated and persecuted in both worlds. This makes him more sympathetic to her, and he runs after her as well.
- Yukari's attackers are ugly lizardmen. Yukari flashes back to another time she was told she's not needed, and we get... censored pantyshots. Who do they think they're kidding =P
- Lizardmen eat her wand and intend to eat her when Moka arrives. She has a girl-to-girl heartfelt talk with Yukari while they... uh, pose menacingly or something?
- Ok, sparkles and tears fill the air and the lizardmen get pissed that they're being annoyed. They attack, Tsukune saves Yukari, blah blah blah.
- Kurumu saves Tsukune and Yukari, another accidental transformation results in Moka beating up the lizardmen in a lame fight consisting mostly of stills (59 seconds), blah, blah, blah.
- Yukari magically (no pun intended) makes up with everyone and is now liked, and falls in love with Tsukune, blah, blah, blah.

...You know, this is a terrible show but I'm going to watch ep 4 anyway.

[something]

Episode 4:

- Once again, Tsukune wonders if he should really be in this school. With Kurumu seducing him and Moka sucking his blood, it's getting to be a bit much. And add Yukari into the mix too... though really, could have they possibly dumped the yuri angle more quickly? Before her debut episode is up she's already in love with Tsukune. Ah well.
- Tsukune gets bullied by self-declared leaders of the Mokyuu, Kurumun and Yukarin fanclubs. The girls save him, though predictably not without hurting him in the process.
- And it looks like these guys aren't going away, at least not in this episode. They've been stalking the girls for awhile now. Also, Tsukune is getting all emo that he's so weak and has to be protected by a bunch of girls.
- "Even though it should be me protecting everyone..." Why? Because you have a penis? Gotta protect the helpless women? Get over your gender induced inferiority complex and just be happy you're still fucking alive. Sheesh.
- Second part.
- He gets ready to to leave. Yukari sees him walking away from school and tells Moka, and they chase after him. At the bus stop (it's been a month so the bus is coming again), the fanclub guys transform and attack. The girls save him again, but the fanclub guys go after the girls in their own weird ways... for some reason the girls are unexpectedly helpless against these lumps of fail, but Tsukune pulls the rosary again and... blah blah blah (80 seconds).
- And it turns out he wasn't leaving at all -- he just wanted to give the bus driver the letters he couldn't send. Not only that, the teacher says a phone that can contact the outside world was just installed, and the bus schedule was bumped up to once a day :sd:

Given how behind I am on, well, everything, I think I'm going to drop Rosario. I don't mind repetitive shows necessarily, but when there aren't any characters I'm dying to come back and see each week, the repetitiveness *does* start to matter. Plus, it's been four episodes so I've given the show a fair chance, I think. Are the girls hot? Sure, but Kurumu is probably my favorite and I don't get the feeling they're going to do too much with her.

In any case, barring a complete meltdown in everything else I'm watching this season, I think I'm done with Rosario. KimiAru is a much better guilty pleasure fanservice show for when I'm in the mood for that sort of thing.

[Horny_Otaku]

The character design in this series is absolute shit. And its a bit sad, considering the animation, in some parts, is pretty good, but it looks like, this series will be quite stale, and the end of it all.

[something]

The character design in this series is absolute shit. And its a bit sad, considering the animation, in some parts, is pretty good, but it looks like, this series will be quite stale, and the end of it all.
I don't mind the designs actually, it's just not really a well animated show otherwise. Everything feels so cheap. The girls are damn hot though.

[Ingraman]

Given how behind I am on, well, everything, I think I'm going to drop Rosario.

I'm doing the same... Four episodes was at least two too many. I realize that it might just be the fact that characters are still being introduced, but I can't handle the lack of plot any more. The panty-shots in this series aren't worthwhile, either (at least they were more creative with great quantities of them in the one episode of Aika that I've seen). Too many bad elements to this show.

[Ashyukun]

I'm probably going to stick with it, as much out of sheer bloodymindedness as out of the fact that I do rather like the manga... and given that they've got Ruby in the OP/ED and from the ED, I'm guessing we're going to get into the meatier parts fairly shortly. This is probably at the bottom of my watching list though- almost everything else this season gets priority over it.

[Ty]

I expect to continue as well, which baffles me to no end. This show contains everything I hate in anime yet I don't mind watching this at all. Go figure. It's mindless fun with the proper mindset.

[Westlo]

I'm sticking with it but until my internet download month resets on the 15th I can only realistically follow 3 shows a week. Those being Spice & Wolf, True Tears and Kimikiss, R+V is way back in the order.

[Ashyukun]

Episode 5 covered the swimming pool/mermaids story, and episode 6 Gin's introduction and the group's first activities in the Newspaper Club.

It looks like they're rearranging the storyline from the manga considerably for the next episode though, since it introduces the fourth girl who by the manga storyline wouldn't show up for quite a while (until after Ruby, the other girl in the intro, is introduced).

[Ty]

Understandable since the show is only 12 episodes. I have to say my patience is being tried a bit by the sheer force of the cliched content. Not that I didn't know it would be that way. Still, when no progress at all gets made between the main characters it gets old.

[Westlo]

Episode 4 was probably the worst in the series thus far, I thought "why am I still watching this" a few times during that episode. New opening was alright but the new ending animation was pretty good and is hopefully a sign of things to come.

[Westlo]

5 was alright for the type of episode it was I guess, also vampires and water don't mix.. is that a usual thing for vampire stories?

6 introduced a new character who didn't get owned by Sexy Moka's kick for once, but the force of the kick broke what he landed on instead...

[ndm]

5 was alright for the type of episode it was I guess, also vampires and water don't mix.. is that a usual thing for vampire stories?

IIRC early vampire myths said that vampires couldn't cross running water. I don't think they said anything about getting electric shocks from swimming pools, but it's not a terrible stretch.

[Ty]

Heh, there appears to be no episode 7 topic so I'll make one. Goes to show how popular this show is. Since episode 5 all I do when I watch this is wonder why I'm still watching it, yet I don't really get the urge to drop it. I must be yearning for dumb entertainment lately.

Anyway, the subject of episode 7 is the introduction of yet another new girl: Shirayuki who is.... wait for it..... a snow woman. So now with 4 girls surrounding our hapless "hero" we have a full-fledged harem at last. With 5 episodes to go I suspect this will be one of those shows that tries to whip out a "real" story in the very last episode and is nothing but fluff until then. I wait with bated breath to see if it can do a worse job of the task than Magikano did.

[Rhodes]

show started out fun but quickly dragged into bleh mode.

moka's transformation is recycled trash, sailor moon's was better... heck nonoha's was more fun to watch.

the monster of the week is weak... male lead is a pussy.

fan service is dull to say the least... They are my Noble Masters is way better than this trash.

[Ashyukun]

So, Shirayuki's introduction is abbreviated somewhat from the manga, losing a modest bit of her back-story (which explained exactly why she had been absent). I'm kind of surprised to see they're doing the math teacher story next... they're really going to be stuffing things down a lot to get both the Witch's Ranch story (which they essentially have to with Rubi in the OP) and the 'enforcement committee' story (which the ED hints at) done in just 5 episodes.

Shirayuki though is one of my favorite characters... and I loved how they handled her hair in Yuki-Ona form when animated, it looked really good.

[Westlo]

I started reading the manga mainly because I'm guessing it has a lot of promise due to what was included in the episode 4+ ending animation. Only read the first chapter but I have to say that normal Moka's manga design is a lot more... cute/innocent.

Also one of my pet hates about these type of shows is the male leads voice which i can avoid with the manga. For instance I have no problem with the To Love Ru lead in the manga but I'm sure I'll get sick of him in the anime.

[Ashyukun]

I like the manga better overall than the anime, in no small part because it isn't played as heavily for the fanservice as the anime is. The manga also gets beyond the 'monster of the week' before too long and into more consistent plot, in addition to (spoiler for what will probably get covered in the anime near the end)Tsukune himself becoming a good bit less useless through certain events.

[Westlo]

I've now read chapters 2-28 of the manga and while it's nothing incredible it's certainly a lot better than the anime. I do like the developments with the lead...

[Westlo]

I have to congratulate Gonzo on fucking up the two best arcs from the first 20 chapters of manga.

[Suwako Moriya]

I have to congratulate Gonzo on fucking up the two best arcs from the first 20 chapters of manga.

Reading a statement like this makes me even more glad I dropped this. Is this a case of cutting out he good parts or changing things in a negative way?

[Westlo]

Is this a case of cutting out he good parts or changing things in a negative way?

Pretty much both, in the fight shown in the last episode here Tsukune goes "GAR" for 10 seconds to run away from a fire. In the manga he beats the shit out of the guy here iirc. Also they really screwed up Ruby's chapters/character.

Don't get me wrong, the manga is definitely no 20th Century Boys or Monster but it's a lot better than the crap Gonzo served up.

Chapter 23 is my favorite chapter from the 33 I've read. True Moka beating the crap out of Ghoul Tsukune was awesome, you also pretty much get confirmation here during True Mokas monologue while demolishing Tsukune that she likes him.

[Westlo]

Looks like a second season got green lit for Fall 08, I guess it's no surprise really. I would be excited by it since the second half of the first manga series is pretty decent but after seeing them fuck up Ruby and the Firefox arcs I'm guessing they will fuck up everything else too.

[Ashyukun]

I have to congratulate Gonzo on fucking up the two best arcs from the first 20 chapters of manga.

Yeaaaah, I'm gonna have to wholeheartedly agree with you on that. They just completely trashed both the Witch's Hill and Public Safety Committee arcs into mere shells of what they were. About the only thing I liked about the changes was that Shirayuki (my favorite of the characters) was around through them instead of not showing up until after the arcs in the manga.

Otherwise- What the hell were they thinking? About the only possible reason I could see in their having gimped Tsukune through those arcs would be to save that whole development for the second season- which is just damned stupid. I would have called it almost redeemable if they'd had him win the fight instead of Moka- but no. And a second personality for Ruby that was that of the Master from the manga? Who writes this shit? If you're adapting a manga into an anime- especially one where you're not going past existing material, leave writing the plot to the manga creator.

I can't say I have very high hopes at all for the planned second season. There was just too much FAIL in this first one.

[untoldsorrow]

Just started watching this myself and I have to say one thing, the girl's character designs are amazing. The girls are freakin hot and sexy, even the teacher. As for the show itself, blah. I could watch this for the girls but blah to everything else.

[Westlo]

Read the manga, you can thank me later!

[pianocello]

I sort of liked this. The girls were hot and interesting and there was symmetrical docking. :blush:

A few things brought the show down though. The animation is crappy. The male lead has a whiny voice and reminds me too much of Aoba Riku of Tokimeki Memorial.