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something
02-18-2008, 10:13 PM
Doubt this show really qualifies for getting its own thread, but what the heck, I'll throw a poll in to distract everyone! I marathoned this yesterday (eps 1-10) and today (11-12). It was... well, amusing enough I guess. Obviously there's a bit of the "been there, done that" feeling but that's not a deciding factor in how I rate a show.

The animation had that "we're still getting used to this digital thing" feel, but not so severely as shows that aired a few years prior (this one is vintage '04). Designs were off model with some regularity, but maybe that just means there wasn't a coherent model to begin with. :sd: Many times it almost looked like an intentional stylistic effect, particularly in the fight against Konoe's sister. Everything else was perfectly passable, no strong feelings either way.

As for the designs, pretty traditional maid outfits. Maron, Lemon and Melon's were quite nice though. Yashima being a dark-skinned character was interesting, since there are very few in anime. The only thing that bothered me was Taro. I think they were aiming to perfectly fit the weak, goofy looking, short and young boy in a harem situation stereotype as best they could. That said, he looked much, much better when in casual clothes, as opposed to the stupid outfit he wore around the mansion.

The music was nothing special. Boring OP I skipped every time, sorta-okay ED I watched maybe twice because I liked the chibi triplets. BGM was fine in that "I didn't notice it so I guess it wasn't bad" way.

As for the story, well, what story? This sort of show doesn't really need a story. Blunder around with maids and fanservice and comedy, then throw a irrelevant conflict in at the end, resolve it with monologues about love and togetherness, then slap a "life goes on" ending to tie things up. It's what I expected, and it was good enough.

So, middling performance so far, but all I need are a few likable characters, and I'll generally get through a show just fine. Hanaukyo threw me a couple of those, so the end result was positive. My favorite was easily (wait for it, I bet you'll never guess)...

...Yashima! Yes, of course. Sexy delicious Yashima and her obsession with Konoe was clearly the highlight of the show. Again, yuri does make everything better, although I was a bit disappointed Konoe didn't return the sentiment. They were actually pretty vague about her overall, though they hint at the end that she's got a thing for Taro, like almost everybody else. Yaaaaawn. Thankfully they leave it just vague enough that I can simply assume Yashima "enlightens" Konoe somewhere down the line. Oh, and I really liked Konoe herself too.

Next would probably be the molestation triplets, Maron, Melon and Lemon. Their sole job seems to be to fondle Taro while he sleeps. That's gotta count for something. I eventually came to tolerate Ikuyo after being bored by her at first. And what's not to like about Kaneda Tomoko playing a cute little girl with multiple personalities? Thus, yay for Cynthia/Grace, though I totally did not give two shits about the DORAMA they tried to pass off on us in episode two (way too early, guys). I'm just glad they kept both personalities, and she is indeed damn cute.

Taro himself was decent enough, and gets points for not filling 80% of his screentime with the typical anime male reactions (nosebleed, stuttering, etc) to attractive females. There was some of that, yes, but it could have been far worse. Mariel though... boooooooooooooooring. Especially since I kept involuntarily comparing her to another Tanaka Rie head maid role, the infinitely superior Maria from Hayate no Gotoku. Oh and I suppose it'd be wrong not to mention Ryuka. I'll just say that things could have gone far worse with her than they did, and I liked that they toned her personality down a bit in short order.

All in all a good way to kill a few hours, and at $12 for the whole series I certainly got my money's worth. Wish it had a bit more of this (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/anon09876/KMP-DVD05532921-11-16.png) though.

So, who did you like best? If any of you even remember this show, I mean. And yes I'm only putting the girls on here because I'm a horrible sexist pig, or something. (Well, I'm definitely something, but you get the point).

[Note: I'm also really amused, given her constant insistence throughout the series on Yashima being her given name and Sanae being her family name, that ANN has her listed Sanae Yashima. That's original Japanese order, which I prefer, but that isn't what ANN uses. In other words, they got her name wrong too. Poor Yashima! :sd: ]

Ty
02-18-2008, 10:15 PM
Cynthia was the only character I enjoyed from the show really, though I felt she was better done in the original.

ADC
02-18-2008, 10:20 PM
For me it's Lemon, Melon, and Marron, who were really the only characters who kept me going through that sad show. I swear I wanted to like it, but when they didn't do jack shit with Mariel, everything was ruined. I was so angry that they didn't develop her character, but then I realized, she doesn't have a character to develop! And that just infuriated me even more. I don't make a habit of selling off Geneon titles, but this one is gone from my collection.

HitokiriShadow
02-19-2008, 12:05 AM
I barely remember this series. I recall mainly liking Cynthia/Grace and the triplets were pretty amusing. Yashima and her obsession were good for mild amusement, I guess. I vaguely recall the others, and I recall not caring at all for them or being outright annoyed by them (the rich girl, was that Ikuyo?) And the only reason I can remember their names is from reading something's post. The half-assed attempt at a plot at the end was retarded. It was a mediocre series at best and utterly forgettable.

pianocello
02-19-2008, 12:33 AM
This show has lesbians and nipples. Therefore it is awesome. :grin:

Okay seriously though, I wish they had animated the remaining volumes of the manga. I was surprised by how bloody it was with a bloody scene more suitable for Elfen Lied. And at least the yuri relationship does go a little further in the manga. Not to mention Ryuka has a major makeover. Also all the mysteries are finally explained in the manga's ending.

EmperorBrandon
02-19-2008, 12:36 AM
I got to see this one recently because a friend of mine bought it, and he brought it over and I got to see it. It has its fun moments for sure, but a good bit about the show is forgettable (I can't remember too much, and I just watched it a few months ago :sd: ). Yashima was probably the most fun - cute dark-skinned maid with a lesbian crush. I agree that Mariel is pretty boring - compounding the fact that I don't usually like those type of characters (she's one of the absolute worst of them). I definitely noticed the inconsistent character designs with a few episodes - bothered me in the one near the end where they have to go "rescue" Mariel.

EmperorBrandon
02-19-2008, 12:39 AM
I vaguely recall the others, and I recall not caring at all for them or being outright annoyed by them (the rich girl, was that Ikuyo?)

The rich girl was Ryuka Jihioh. Ikuyo was the nerdy maid girl.

GrateSaiyaman
02-19-2008, 05:16 AM
...Yashima! Yes, of course. Sexy delicious Yashima and her obsession with Konoe was clearly the highlight of the show. Again, yuri does make everything better, although I was a bit disappointed Konoe didn't return the sentiment. They were actually pretty vague about her overall, though they hint at the end that she's got a thing for Taro, like almost everybody else. Yaaaaawn.


That's pretty much what I was thinking throughout this show . . . Although I did like the triplets quite a bit, now and then.

;)

The Great Bear
02-19-2008, 08:01 AM
Konoe. Accept no substitute.

The show itself was blah. I bought it, but it's not on my rewatch list.

I agree completely on Mariel. Most Boring Female Lead Ever.

If you want Rie Tanaka maid roles, you're much better off with Maria from Hayate, or going back a bit, Saki from Steel Angel Kurumi.

something
02-19-2008, 10:17 AM
I bought it, but it's not on my rewatch list.
Yeah, there's no way in a million years I'm going to rewatch this. Enjoyable enough for a single viewing, but that's all it needs. For less than the price of one $30msrp disc in a TRSI studio sale with GA, I have no regrets.

railohio
02-20-2008, 08:28 AM
Agreed. I got it during one of the Geneon clearance sales so I paid very, very little for it. It was an enjoyable, if unmemorable, show the first time but there's no need to live through it again. I'm sure my opinion of it would be different had I paid more, however.

~BS

zaitcev
02-20-2008, 03:27 PM
I didn't care for the unnecessary lesbian Yashima, especially considering the note that her role took later on. But she did play her underling's role as well. At a certain point Konoe addressed her to express her thoughts which otherwise would not be put to words -- it's an old trick filmmakers use.

Watching Hanaukyo Maid Tai (either original or La Verite) it's hard not to think how I would handle Taro's duties differently. For exampe, I would confront Reika's father to seek her obligation release. Taro washed hands on her, which I suppose is a valid leadership style as well.

And Bear is quite right, Konoe is the most impressive cast member outside of Taro himself. Tangentially, her name was the first instance where I saw katakana "ue/we/e" used.

Although this would be an instance of "poisoned by manga" fallacy, I cannot help mentioning that triplets were shortchanged from the original, where they had wonderful facial expressions and great lines. In La Verite, we receive the only glimpse of old them when they stick their tongues at Konoe. It's a pity, really, and not excused by the tightened up story.

HitokiriShadow
02-20-2008, 04:58 PM
I didn't care for the unnecessary lesbian

That's an oxymoron. There are no unnecessary lesbians in anime.

Isuzu Inugami
02-20-2008, 05:18 PM
I didn't care for the unnecessary lesbian

That's an oxymoron. There are no unnecessary lesbians in anime.

If anything, there's clearly a shortage, since so many seem to have a problem hooking up with someone. :neko:

something
02-20-2008, 05:33 PM
If anything, there's clearly a shortage, since so many seem to have a problem hooking up with someone. :neko:
Indeed! And when they do one either dies, or turns out to be a guy, or is separated by some magical force, or something equally horrible.

Give me more canon, happy lesbians who get to end up together!

Gatts
02-20-2008, 05:38 PM
I didn't care for the unnecessary lesbian

That's an oxymoron. There are no unnecessary lesbians in anime.

It's amazing how something as completely unobtainable as an anime lesbian is so desired. It even becomes more amazing when you think of the psycho lesbian anime stalker. I guess the old saying that people only want what they can't have is true in this case. What's harder to have than an insane girl in an anime that has no interest in your gender at all?

Of course one of my favorite anime characters is Tomoyo (CCS) who is a few years short of obtaining the lesbian title (still in that developmental stage you see) and is not a psycho unless you are into wearing normal clothes.

something
02-20-2008, 06:13 PM
It's amazing how something as completely unobtainable as an anime lesbian is so desired. It even becomes more amazing when you think of the psycho lesbian anime stalker. I guess the old saying that people only want what they can't have is true in this case. What's harder to have than an insane girl in an anime that has no interest in your gender at all?
Well, we don't want them for ourselves, really. It's not so much about attainability, about wanting to find girls like that in real life or what have you. I don't want to defile pure, beautiful yuri love by getting my evil man parts anyway. =P

Despite the joking about delicious yuri sexxings (which is nice too...), I also want to see a good, emotionally powerful relationship, just like I would for heterosexual couples. It's just that yuri makes it even better - it's a nice relationship and they're both hot! Plus there's a hint of taboo, and the feeling that you're privy to their most intimate thoughts. Thoughts (and when mutual, relationships) that they usually need to hide from society at large. I just want nothing more than to see such couples sweep away the disapproving frowns and weird sideways glances and be true to their most intensely held feelings... and so forth.

Attainability isn't a factor for me, but then neither is it in exclusively straight "loser gets the girl" harem situations. While there are certainly anime girls I'd love to know as real people (Konata <3), it's still fiction in the end.

Granted most of this has little to do with Hanaukyo (as it didn't spend much time seriously developing any relationships regardless of orientation), but it's my thread and I'll drift it if I want to =P

Sensuifu
02-20-2008, 06:43 PM
Konoe. Accept no substitute.




HitokiriShadow
02-20-2008, 06:48 PM
Well, the fact that they are fictional character already makes them unattainable. It's not like its going to effect whether I get any or not. Until I'm reborn as an anime lesbian, that is.

Gatts
02-21-2008, 01:01 AM
Until I'm reborn as an anime lesbian, that is.

So would you be the lesbian stalker or the bait that doesn't know that she's a lesbian yet, but will soon be forced coerced into a life of rug-munching? Bah, who am I kidding, all anime girls are bi, so you when you are reborn, you will probably be that chick that runs around grabbing other girls boobs and saying "oh my, how big and soft these are".

HitokiriShadow
02-21-2008, 05:44 PM
I'm actually not a fan of the "oh my how your boobs have grown" groping cheap shots. So that definitely wouldn't be me.

As to your question, I would be both (sort of). First, I would be the bait. Then after I awaken to the wonders of lesbianism and my, uh, awakener turns out to be a serial philanderer and leaves me, I would begin building my yuri harem. I might try "stalking" one or two, but after I graduate from LuLim and finished training under Chikaru-oneesama it would be completely unnecessary. Besides, the stalkers never get the girl, so it obviously isn't a very effective technique.

Gatts
02-21-2008, 05:54 PM
Besides, the stalkers never get the girl, so it obviously isn't a very effective technique.

My Hime/Otome
Kannazuki no Miko

HitokiriShadow
02-21-2008, 05:59 PM
I thought I went back in and added "almost" but apparently I didn't. Still, I was thinking "stalker" more along the lines of Tomoyo or Tamao. Which goes to show that psychosis and violent force is a requirement to make that technique work and that really wouldn't be my style.

Edit: Actually, as long as I'm going for a variety of experiences as a lesbian anime girl, I suppose violence (particularly of the magical girl or HiME-ish variety) might not be so bad. After all, it worked out for Fate and Nanoha... I'm not fond of the idea of raping my supposed lover though.